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Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:06

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Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:

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“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr

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“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation. :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

The book that had zero influence of any IDist?

Au contraire Joke. The trial where the Creationist into ID book was exposed also showed the country how little the IDiots had in the way of actual science and that ID really was just rebranded Creationism.

ID-Creationist morons like you have been bawling their eyes out ever since. :D

What? The trial where evoTARDs lied an bluffed their way through it because a judge is the last person who should be deciding what is and isn't science.

Only desperate an ignorant evoTARDs would think science is decided in a Court of Law.

IC still remains as evidence for ID and all you can do is stomp and scream

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YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:07

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Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:

Quote

“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr

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“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

ARCHETYPE The context was ARCHETYPE.

Clearly I id not try to rename something that had already been so named.

Still nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed"

There wasn't supposed to be anything about the Created Kinds as the reference refuted your ignorant claim that I renamed the created kinds as designed archetypes.

LOL! I love the ridiculous lies and spin you dream up every time you get caught sticking your fat YEC foot into that ID big mouth. :D

No, timmy, you are just an ignorant cunt.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:09

The book "Of Pandas and People" had zero influence on any IDist for the simple reason it was superseded by a flurry of pro-ID books that better capture the essence, the evience and the case for ID.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:14

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Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

Which has nothing to do with the YEC moron trying to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes.

Face it Joke, you just can't hide your YEC leanings no matter how much you squirm and lie.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
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Occam's Aftershave

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:18

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,21:09)

The book "Of Pandas and People" had zero influence on any IDist for the simple reason it was superseded by a flurry of pro-ID books that better capture the essence, the evience and the case for ID.

Later ID books who paid more attention to deleting the YEC references their science-free horseshit is based on.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:45

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,22:18)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,21:09)

The book "Of Pandas and People" had zero influence on any IDist for the simple reason it was superseded by a flurry of pro-ID books that better capture the essence, the evience and the case for ID.

Later ID books who paid more attention to deleting the YEC references their science-free horseshit is based on.

Of Pandas and People was published by the Foundation for Thought and Ethics. The FTE's Academic Editor was some unknown guy named William Dembski. Never heard of him, probably has nothing to do with ID. FTE is now an imprint of the discovery institute's publishing wing. After the Dover failure, Dembski edited it some more and republished it under the new title "The Design of Life" and it's now available for sale by the Discovery Institute:

The Design of Life at Guess Where

stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:47

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,22:45)

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,22:18)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,21:09)

The book "Of Pandas and People" had zero influence on any IDist for the simple reason it was superseded by a flurry of pro-ID books that better capture the essence, the evience and the case for ID.

Later ID books who paid more attention to deleting the YEC references their science-free horseshit is based on.

Of Pandas and People was published by the Foundation for Thought and Ethics. The FTE's Academic Editor was some unknown guy named William Dembski. Never heard of him, probably has nothing to do with ID. FTE is now an imprint of the discovery institute's publishing wing. After the Dover failure, Dembski edited it some more and republished it under the new title "The Design of Life" and it's now available for sale by the Discovery Institute:

The Design of Life at Guess Where

More name changes. These guys never learn.

Edited by stevestory on Jan. 15 2019,22:48

Acartia_Bogart

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:49

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Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:

Quote

“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr

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“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation. :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

The book that had zero influence of any IDist?

Then why the trial?

k.e..

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,21:55

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Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get your check book out coward.

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stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,22:00

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,22:55)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 16 2019,02:55)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

k.e..

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,23:33

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2019,06:00)

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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 16 2019,02:55)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

Has Doc Doc Dembski risen from ~~reviewer~~ shiller of his own books to new author again?

I get it now.

Instead of just copy pasting ID over cd design propentist he takes the whole book and copy pastes it under a new title.

You can get a lot of barbecued ribs for $35.00.

Talk about a free lunch!

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his ~~clown~~ DaveTard suit" dogdidit
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fnxtr

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Posted: Jan. 15 2019,23:47

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Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2019,06:00)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,22:55)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 16 2019,02:55)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

Has Doc Doc Dembski risen from ~~reviewer~~ shiller of his own books to new author again?

I get it now.

Instead of just copy pasting ID over cd design propentist he takes the whole book and copy pastes it under a new title.

You can get a lot of barbecued ribs for $35.00.

Talk about a free lunch!

Can't get a decent bottle of single malt for that tho. Just sayin'...

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stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,00:08

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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 16 2019,02:55)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

Has Doc Doc Dembski risen from ~~reviewer~~ shiller of his own books to new author again?

I get it now.

Instead of just copy pasting ID over cd design propentist he takes the whole book and copy pastes it under a new title.

You can get a lot of barbecued ribs for $35.00.

Talk about a free lunch!

Demski added a couple of chapters change the title and the cover and the author list and republished it and Joe claims it has nothing to do with ID. Here are two funny comments from the Amazon reviews

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This book is an updated version of 'Of Pandas And People', the creationist handbook so thoroughly discredited in the Kitzmiller vs. Dover trial.

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Dembski appears to be making a career of reshuffling previous contents and publishing them as new books. One might perhaps forgive this lack of originality if the contents were at least true.

stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,00:12

chapter 6 is about Behe's irreducible complexity, so if Joe wants to say that has nothing to do with ID that's fine with me.

k.e..

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,02:08

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2019,08:12)

chapter 6 is about Behe's irreducible complexity, so if Joe wants to say that has nothing to do with ID that's fine with me. :D :) :p

Is there a chapter on ass-trology or who designed the designer?

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Henry J

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:17

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 15 2019,23:08)

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Dembski appears to be making a career of reshuffling previous contents and publishing them as new books. One might perhaps forgive this lack of originality if the contents were at least true.

Ah, but if the contents were true, there would have been no motive for re-titling the thing.

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:24

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,21:55)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 16 2019,02:55)

Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron.

Liar. Evos didn't present any science that supports their asinine claims.

IC remains as evidence for ID. And no amount of your whining will ever change that.

As Dr Behe wrote:

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The Court’s reasoning in section E-4 is premised on: a cramped view of science; the conflation of intelligent design with creationism; an incapacity to distinguish the implications of a theory from the theory itself; a failure to differentiate evolution from Darwinism; and strawman arguments against ID. The Court has accepted the most tendentious and shopworn excuses for Darwinism with great charity and impatiently dismissed evidence-based arguments for design.

All of that is regrettable, but in the end does not impact the realities of biology, which are not amenable to adjudication. On the day after the judge’s opinion, December 21, 2005, as before, the cell is run by amazingly complex, functional machinery that in any other context would immediately be recognized as designed. On December 21, 2005, as before, there are no non-design explanations for the molecular machinery of life, only wishful speculations and Just-So stories.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:26

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 16 2019,00:12)

chapter 6 is about Behe's irreducible complexity, so if Joe wants to say that has nothing to do with ID that's fine with me. :D :) :p

Reading problems, eh? Dr Behe's entire book, :Darwin's Black Box" is one of those books that superseded "Of Pandas...", moron.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:26

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,21:49)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,20:56)

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Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,19:38)

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

The following is from two of the architects of the modern synthesis:

Quote

“One would expect a priori that such a complete change of the philosophical bias of classification would result in a radical change of classification, but this was by no means the case. There was hardly and change in method before and after Darwin, except that "archetype" was replaced by the common ancestor.”-- Ernst Mayr

and

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“From their classifications alone, it is practically impossible to tell whether zoologists of the middle decades of the nineteenth century were evolutionists or not. The common ancestor was at first, and in most cases, just as hypothetical as the archetype, and the methods of inference were much the same for both, so that classification continued to develop with no immediate evidence of the revolution in principles….the hierarchy looked the same as before even if it meant something totally different.”- G. Simpson

Nothing in there about created "kinds" or being "designed" Chubs.

Looks like the asshole who made the switch was just bullshitting to hide his YEC affiliation. :D

A name change was the whole point of the intelligent design scam. Too bad for them it failed. Now they're back to trying to pass creationism bills.

I guess the find and replace they used in “Of Pandas and People” didn’t work as well as they had planned.

The book that had zero influence of any IDist?

Then why the trial?

Ignorant evoTARDs

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:28

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,21:14)

Quote (Joe G @ Jan. 15 2019,21:03)

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Jan. 15 2019,19:31)

Quote (JohnW @ Jan. 15 2019,15:23)

Quote (Henry J @ Jan. 15 2019,12:43)

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Jan. 15 2019,09:18)

Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

Which has nothing to do with the YEC moron trying to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes.

No YEC even tried to do such a thing.

Archetype was used to describe what became the Created Kinds before the words "Created Kinds" was used.

Obviously you are just an ignorant asshole.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:32

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The book "Of Pandas and People" had zero influence on any IDist for the simple reason it was superseded by a flurry of pro-ID books that better capture the essence, the evience and the case for ID.

Later ID books who paid more attention to deleting the YEC references their science-free horseshit is based on. :D

Of Pandas and People was published by the Foundation for Thought and Ethics. The FTE's Academic Editor was some unknown guy named William Dembski.

Umm, clearly you are an ignorant ass, stevie. William Dembski was not the editor of "Of Pandas and People"

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:34

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Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

What? Only an ignorant asshole would say those two very different books are just one book with a new name.

The contents of ten two books is totally different. But then again not one of you has read either book.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,08:36

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Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

Has Doc Doc Dembski risen from ~~reviewer~~ shiller of his own books to new author again?

I get it now.

Instead of just copy pasting ID over cd design propentist he takes the whole book and copy pastes it under a new title.

You can get a lot of barbecued ribs for $35.00.

Talk about a free lunch!

Demski added a couple of chapters change the title and the cover and the author list and republished it

Liar. The two books are totally different. Only an asshole liar would say what stevie posted.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

stevestory

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:08

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Dembski appears to be making a career of reshuffling previous contents and publishing them as new books. One might perhaps forgive this lack of originality if the contents were at least true.

Ah, but if the contents were true, there would have been no motive for re-titling the thing.

Fleecing the rubes. :D :p :)

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:11

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Dembski appears to be making a career of reshuffling previous contents and publishing them as new books. One might perhaps forgive this lack of originality if the contents were at least true.

Ah, but if the contents were true, there would have been no motive for re-titling the thing.

Fleecing the rubes. :D :p :)

YOU are the rube, stevie as there wasn't any re-titling.

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:30

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Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

Which has nothing to do with the YEC moron trying to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes.

No YEC even tried to do such a thing.

You did Joke. Right in this very thread just a few month agos.

Amazing Joke still hasn't learned it's a bad idea to lie about things still easily available for anyone to check.

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Where did the diversity we see today come from if not from the Designer?

2- The diversity came from descent with modification from the originally designed archetypes

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:38

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Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency. :D

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

Which has nothing to do with the YEC moron trying to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes.

No YEC even tried to do such a thing.

You did Joke. Right in this very thread just a few month agos.

Except that I am not a YEC AND the term archetype was used BEFORE Created Kinds.

In other words you are a pathetic willfully ignorant asshole

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"Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth

"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code- Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:51

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Quote (k.e.. @ Jan. 15 2019,17:55)

Quote (fnxtr @ Jan. 15 2019,23:35)

Don't worry Joe, I got this one for you.

YOU'RE ALL POOPY-HEADS!!!ELEVENTY111!!!

Don't worry Joe I got this for you.

Wrong loser the designer did it 4500 years ago and his only son rose from the dead literally after actual death.

4500? That would be a YYEC.

ID will take the Pepsi challenge against materialism and its bastard child, evolutionism, any day.

That challenge has been won already at Dover by science moron. You want to appeal? Get you check book out coward.

He'ss going to be too busy calling The Discovery institute--according to their publishing site, they want to sell the design of life in bulk orders over ten count. Since that book is of pandas and people under a new name, Joe needs to call them and tell them that it has nothing to do with intelligent design, no matter what Dembski and Wells say, and they ought to stop claiming that it does and selling it for 35 bucks a pop.

Has Doc Doc Dembski risen from ~~reviewer~~ shiller of his own books to new author again?

I get it now.

Instead of just copy pasting ID over cd design propentist he takes the whole book and copy pastes it under a new title.

You can get a lot of barbecued ribs for $35.00.

Talk about a free lunch!

Demski added a couple of chapters change the title and the cover and the author list and republished it

Liar. The two books are totally different. Only an asshole liar would say what stevie posted.

Hey Dumbass, Jon Buell, the president of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics himself testified that the third edition of OPAP would be retitled The Design of Life and Dembski would be added as co-author.

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Q And is there another edition of the Pandas and People in the works at this time?
A There is, yes.
Q And what is that, the title of that book?
A The title of that book will be The Design of Life.
Q And how does that differ from Pandas and People?
A Well, since the second edition of Pandas, you know, we're almost 15 years down the road, and of course the debate has matured a great deal.
A lot of science has been done, and so it's been necessary to update quite a bit of material.
A lot of the original Pandas will be retained, but a lot will be removed, and we've added three authors. They're certainly among the top intelligent design scientists in the world.
Q When do you anticipate this book being released?
A Next year, in '06.

He also confirmed Dembski was the Academic Editor of the book

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Q Who is William Dembski? I believe you mentioned his name earlier.
A Yes. Dr. William Dembski is our academic editor, and he's the editor of the book The Design of Life, and one of the new -- the three new co-authors.

Here is Jon Buell's original court testimony

Kitzmiller v. Dover: Buell day 2

Damn Joke but you are one lying dumbass.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,10:56

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Since ID is science, we just assumed that science was their purpose. Maybe they should change it to "Serving the Religious Fundamentalist Community".

Or maybe their purpose is trying to look like science is their purpose? Or at least look that way to their supporters.

Serving the Cdesign Proponentsist Community.

As a follow on, I saw one YEC moron try to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes just to sound more sciency.

And now you know that is only because you are an ignorant troll fishing for an evoTARD soundbite. Archetype has been used for centuries.

Which has nothing to do with the YEC moron trying to rename originally created "kinds" into originally designed archtypes.

No YEC even tried to do such a thing.

You did Joke. Right in this very thread just a few month agos.

Except that I am not a YEC AND the term archetype was used BEFORE Created Kinds.

The term DESIGNED archtypes wasn't used until you used it to rename "created kinds" to make it fit with ID's other attempts to hide its religious basis.

Keep lying Joke. It's still early, you can get in lots more Joke stupidity today.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G

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Posted: Jan. 16 2019,11:15

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