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Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,07:52    Well, if stochastic processes could not have produced it and it fits the criteria of something that was intelligently designed: "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”- Dr Behe in DBB then, according to Isaac Newton's four rules of scientific reasoning it is OK to infer bacterial flagella are the result of telic processes, that is they were intelligently designed. But also according to those same four rules if someone can demonstrate that stochastic processes are up to the task, the razor neatly slices off the designer requirement. First you need to develop a methodology to test the claim. So yes, it has all of the scientific hallmarks of being intelligently designed. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:01    For the record Joke, are you a Muslim? -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:26    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:01) For the record Joke, are you a Muslim? For the record, scrotum, are you a petulant child? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:27    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:26) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:01) For the record Joke, are you a Muslim? For the record, scrotum, are you a petulant child? One more confirmation Joke was lying and just pretending to be a Muslim to hide his YEC beliefs. Too funny!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:29    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:27) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:26)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:01) For the record Joke, are you a Muslim? For the record, scrotum, are you a petulant child? Too funny!   So timmy admits it is a petulant child. Too funny! :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D Tell me, scrotum, what does me being or not being a Muslim NOW have to do with 15+ years ago? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:31    And moar evidence for Intelligent Design: The architecture and subunit composition of ATP synthase If you take a look at ATP synthase you can see it consists of two major subunits (F0 & F1) that are connected together by an external tether. This tether doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of either subunit but without it no ATP synthase. The problem for evolution by blind and mindless processes is exacerbated. Not only does it need to produce the two subunits but one has to be embedded in some membrane so that a gradient can be formed. And the other has to to be stably tethered to the membrane the proper distance away. The tether looks like the membrane subunit F0 somehow formed an external docking site the proper length with F1 forming an external mating site. Again these two different protein subunits, the tether and mate, have nothing to do with the function of the protein complexes they are attached to and tether together. And without them there is no way to get the two working subunits together to produce ATP. There you have it- A simple external tether that stably holds the major F1 subunit/ rotary motor the proper distance away from its F0 motor force is evidence for the Intelligent Design of ATP synthase. The two major subunits and how it works is just icing on the cake. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:34    Timmy TuTu Horton's Four Rules of Internet Discussion- as just demonstrated by Timmy: 1. Make the stupidest, easiest to disprove science-free claims possible 2. Never retract or correct the stupidity despite being shown to be 100% wrong. 3. C&P the same stupidity every chance you get until people get tired of your ignorance. 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:43    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:29) Tell me, what does me being or not being a Muslim NOW have to do with 15+ years ago? Because you got caught lying and saying you never claimed to be a Muslim. You're a compulsive liar Joke and everyone here knows it.  Every time you make some dumbass claim and get burned you lie about it.   Lying comes as easily to you as eating a dozen Krispy Kremes.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:51    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:43) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:29) Tell me, what does me being or not being a Muslim NOW have to do with 15+ years ago? Because you got caught lying and saying you never claimed to be a Muslim. Fuck you. You are the liar, asshole. I never said that I never claimed to be a Muslim. Clearly you are just an ignorant coward and pathological liar.           -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:54    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,09:43) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:29) Tell me, what does me being or not being a Muslim NOW have to do with 15+ years ago? Because you got caught lying and saying you never claimed to be a Muslim. That is a non-sequitur from the ignorant coward, timmy tutu Horton. Not only that it is a lie as I have never made that claim. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,09:57    Quote (Patrick @ Dec. 18 2018,09:56) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,10:23) Quote (sparc @ Dec. 18 2018,02:01)   Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 17 2018,21:02) Acarta wrote that"KF is going to go all Red herring on Hazel’s ass." You called it. A sampling of kf's responses: "First, the attempt just above to red flag mistakes mention of the God of Ethical Theism — a philosophical concept — for a religious one. Obviously, with all the invited disdain in a world full of aggressive secularists — it is the crowning piece." "(Pardon, but I think on fair comment it is already well within my rights to point out to you that you should reconsider dismissive rhetoric which has kept on cropping up.)" "(Yet again I find it appropriate to speak on fair comment: you inappropriately tried to set up a strawman caricature, push it over and avoid addressing a substantial issue. Please, stop.)" Link, with hazel's replies KF is just pissed that (why still single) Dr.  Montañez didn't refer to the oh so relevant FIASCO research published by Gordon E. Mullings. KF just won't give it up.   Quote H & EG: Chuckle, again. It seems the real problem has surfaced. You are engaging in essentially objecting commentary on a series of articles that are engaging logic and first principles of reason (including how this leads to numbers etc as necessary features of any possible world) but have no interest in either the substance or the argument, while having fairly obvious disdain for the presenter and lack of awareness of key ideas involved. No wonder there is little motivation to follow the substantial interest or concern that there may be key issues of truth on the table. That readily explains why objections and dismissive comments so often turn the substance into a strawman caricature and tend to be distractive and dismissive. In addition, you are unfamiliar with the nature of key issues and concepts but are not engaging with what would help you begin to change that unfamiliarity. This then leads to the projection of hostility or confusion or incoherence etc, especially when this little spermologos has the temerity to attempt to explain or correct or point out fallacies. I am left shaking my head and chuckling. Perhaps, we can start afresh on a different footing? KF Spermologos? Who is he trying to impress? Out of curiosity, I plugged that last paragraph of Gordon's into a grammar checker.  Essentially the whole thing lit up red with over a dozen phrases in special highlights. Oddly, it gave it a reading level of grade 14.  Personally, I think an 8-year-old could tell he's full of it. That leaves you out of it, Patty. Eighth graders are by far smarter than you. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,10:48    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:57) That leaves you out of it, Patty. Eighth graders are by far smarter than you. Says Joke the pretend Muslim unemployed toaster repairman who is still too stupid to understand how blankets work.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,11:01    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,10:48) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:57) That leaves you out of it, Patty. Eighth graders are by far smarter than you. Says Joe timmy tutu the projectionist, strikes again. Eighth graders are by far much smarter than timmy.   -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,11:20    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,11:01) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,10:48) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:57) That leaves you out of it, Patty. Eighth graders are by far smarter than you. Says Joe timmy tutu the projectionist, strikes again. Eighth graders are by far much smarter than timmy.  :D Nice grammar Joke. 😃

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,11:30    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,11:20) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,11:01) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,10:48)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,09:57) That leaves you out of it, Patty. Eighth graders are by far smarter than you. Says Joe timmy tutu the projectionist, strikes again. Eighth graders are by far much smarter than timmy.  :D Nice grammar Joe. And moar cowardly innuendos. Ok mr canuk, illiterate punk- make your case against my grammar. I dare you to try -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,12:43    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out.     -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,12:57    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM     Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?     -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,13:14    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)     Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM       Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?  :)   timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,13:15    Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 18 2018,13:04) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,11:41) From WJM   Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? But that's not an inference, it's a speculation. No, it isn't speculation. It would be the only possible cause. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,15:07    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)       Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM         Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?     timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?     Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork.  You do have to wonder why Joke is so obsessed with scatological sex and feces.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,15:34    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,15:07) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)         Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM           Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?     timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?     Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork. Umm, YOU are the shit code boy, timmy tutu. I never said anything about the sex of the assholes. Does it bother you that I have revealed your technique?         -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,19:39    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,15:34) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,15:07) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)         Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM           Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?  :)   timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?       Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork. Umm, YOU are the shit code boy, timmy tutu. I never said anything about the sex of the assholes. Does it bother you that I have revealed your technique? :D  :D  :O  :D  :D Joke, only a homophobe would think that the sex of the asshole was important. Nice own goal.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,20:23    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,19:39) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,15:34) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,15:07)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)           Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM             Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?  :)   timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?       Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork. Umm, YOU are the shit code boy, timmy tutu. I never said anything about the sex of the assholes. Does it bother you that I have revealed your technique? :D  :D  :O  :D  :D Joe, only a homophobe would think that the sex of the asshole was important. Wow, still too stupid to follow along, eh, dumbass canuk? Not only that what you said doesn't follow. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,21:09    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,20:23) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,19:39) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,15:34)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,15:07)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)           Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM             Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?  :)   timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?         Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork. Umm, YOU are the shit code boy, timmy tutu. I never said anything about the sex of the assholes. Does it bother you that I have revealed your technique? :D  :D  :O  :D  :D Joe, only a homophobe would think that the sex of the asshole was important. Wow, still too stupid to follow along, eh, dumbass canuk? Not only that what you said doesn't follow. Sorry Joke, rule 4 talked about homophobic and scatological comments. It was you who brought up the sex of the asshole, which placed your comment squarely in the homophobic category. Nice own goal.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,21:31    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,21:09) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,20:23) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,19:39)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,15:34)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,15:07)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,13:14)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,12:57)         Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 18 2018,12:43)             Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,12:41) From WJM               Quote I think the question now becomes: what can we infer from the fact that mathematics is an inherent aspect of the universe and of our existence? OOOH! OOOH! I got this. An intelligent agent? Which leaves you out. Joke, do you recite the Quran and kneel on your prayer rug towards Mecca every day?     timmy tutu, do you kneel on a rug when you lick assholes or do you wear knee pads?         Quote 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. Like clockwork. Umm, YOU are the shit code boy, timmy tutu. I never said anything about the sex of the assholes. Does it bother you that I have revealed your technique?         Joe, only a homophobe would think that the sex of the asshole was important. Wow, still too stupid to follow along, eh, dumbass canuk? Not only that what you said doesn't follow. Sorry Joke, rule 4 talked about homophobic and scatological comments. It was you who brought up the sex of the asshole, which placed your comment squarely in the homophobic category. Nice own goal. Clearly you are an illiterate asshole. What part of "homophobic and scatological" are you too stupid to understand? THAT is why the sex of the asshole is important- but clearly not to you. You don't even give a shit about the species.     Also your fixation with homophobes is evidence that you are the homophobe. Always trying to blame others so no one thinks it's you all along. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2018,22:34    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,21:09) Sorry Joke, rule 4 talked about homophobic and scatological comments. It was you who brought up the sex of the asshole, which placed your comment squarely in the homophobic category. Nice own goal. Joke has the mentality and maturity level of your average dim-witted high school bully.  He thinks if he hollers SHIT SHIT SHIT FAGGOT ASSHOLE LITTLE BOY MOLESTOR loud enough and long enough he'll be a real Internet Tough Guy!   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,08:18    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2018,22:34) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 18 2018,21:09) Sorry Joke, rule 4 talked about homophobic and scatological comments. It was you who brought up the sex of the asshole, which placed your comment squarely in the homophobic category. Nice own goal. Joke has the mentality and maturity level of your average dim-witted high school bully.  He thinks if he hollers SHIT SHIT SHIT FAGGOT ASSHOLE LITTLE BOY MOLESTOR loud enough and long enough he'll be a real Internet Tough Guy!  :D And yet compared to timmy tutu Horton I am a very mature adult who is also very pleasant to be around. Also I am comforted by the fact I could easily eviscerate timmy tutu in a debate on science. timmy is also bothered because I have the nerve to stand up to its internet bullying tactics. Yes, that's right, timmy tutu is a real life coward -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,08:19    Well, if stochastic processes could not have produced it and it fits the criteria of something that was intelligently designed: "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”- Dr Behe in DBB then, according to Isaac Newton's four rules of scientific reasoning it is OK to infer bacterial flagella are the result of telic processes, that is they were intelligently designed. But also according to those same four rules if someone can demonstrate that stochastic processes are up to the task, the razor neatly slices off the designer requirement. First you need to develop a methodology to test the claim. So yes, it has all of the scientific hallmarks of being intelligently designed. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,08:20    Timmy TuTu Horton's Four Rules of Internet Discussion- as just demonstrated by Timmy: 1. Make the stupidest, easiest to disprove science-free claims possible 2. Never retract or correct the stupidity despite being shown to be 100% wrong. 3. C&P the same stupidity every chance you get until people get tired of your ignorance. 4. Show your immaturity by adding childish homophobic and scatological insults to every post. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2018,08:57    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 19 2018,06:19) Well, if stochastic processes could not have produced it and it fits the criteria of something that was intelligently designed: "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”- Dr Behe in DBB then, according to Isaac Newton's four rules of scientific reasoning it is OK to infer bacterial flagella are the result of telic processes, that is they were intelligently designed. But also according to those same four rules if someone can demonstrate that stochastic processes are up to the task, the razor neatly slices off the designer requirement. First you need to develop a methodology to test the claim. So yes, it has all of the scientific hallmarks of being intelligently designed. ... all the while being somewhat coy about investigating the identity of the designer. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

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