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k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,09:48    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,16:28) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,22:31)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,22:16) What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? But Joke you're the one who claims the whole universe and life was POOFED into existence by your magic Designer. There's a reason you clowns are called IDiots.   :D Except I have never made that claim. There's a reason why you dipshits are called pathological liars and ignoramuses. :D Thanks for admitting that your position is nothing but magic, timmy What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? timmy couldn't say... Hey Joe did your Mom ever tell you which just so hillbilly was your father? Was it Eli Roscoe Floyd William Jed Jerry Lee Quentin Billy Bart Jimmy James or Elrod? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,09:57    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2018,04:26)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,20:09)     Quote What happens to the extra energy in the thermal range kept from radiating away into space by the additional CO2 in the atmosphere? There isn't any "extra energy", dumbass, and eventually an uneasy equilibrium is reached. Joke thinks repeating his stupidity will somehow make the stupidity magically become true.   Of course this is the same moron who thinks a magic Designer somehow POOFED the whole universe and all life into existence only 6000 years ago.   :D Well Jesus was an uneasy god that done made teh hole damn world in just six days and went craw fishing  on Sunday because he needed a rest after all teh creating an' such. So uneasy equilibriumsTM are good for arguments about homophobia, creationism and antievolution. Oh and global warming denial. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,10:10    Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 14 2018,09:48) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,16:28)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,22:31)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,22:16) What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? But Joke you're the one who claims the whole universe and life was POOFED into existence by your magic Designer. There's a reason you clowns are called IDiots.   :D Except I have never made that claim. There's a reason why you dipshits are called pathological liars and ignoramuses. :D Thanks for admitting that your position is nothing but magic, timmy What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? timmy couldn't say... Hey Joe did your Mom ever tell you which just so hillbilly was your father? Was it Eli Roscoe Floyd William Jed Jerry Lee Quentin Billy Bart Jimmy James or Elrod? ke, the zoo called. It wants you to stop jerking off with the chimps. And at least I know who my father was. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,10:19    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,18:10) Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 14 2018,09:48)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,16:28)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,22:31)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,22:16) What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? But Joke you're the one who claims the whole universe and life was POOFED into existence by your magic Designer. There's a reason you clowns are called IDiots.   :D Except I have never made that claim. There's a reason why you dipshits are called pathological liars and ignoramuses. :D Thanks for admitting that your position is nothing but magic, timmy What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? timmy couldn't say... Hey Joe did your Mom ever tell you which just so hillbilly was your father? Was it Eli Roscoe Floyd William Jed Jerry Lee Quentin Billy Bart Jimmy James or Elrod? ke, the zoo called. It wants you to stop jerking off with the chimps. And at least I know who my father was. Good for you Joe. We all think it was the third chimp on the left that got your mom down behind the swamp as well. You keep cliaiming your not related to chimps But these posts your making are saying that you are You've been messing where you shouldn't have been messing And now someone else is getting all your best -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,11:40    Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 14 2018,10:19) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,18:10)   Quote (k.e.. @ Dec. 14 2018,09:48)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,16:28)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,22:31)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,22:16) What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? But Joke you're the one who claims the whole universe and life was POOFED into existence by your magic Designer. There's a reason you clowns are called IDiots.   Except I have never made that claim. There's a reason why you dipshits are called pathological liars and ignoramuses. Thanks for admitting that your position is nothing but magic, timmy What's the difference between relying innumerable just-so accidents, errors and mistakes, ie materialism, and magic? timmy couldn't say... Hey Joe did your Mom ever tell you which just so hillbilly was your father? Was it Eli Roscoe Floyd William Jed Jerry Lee Quentin Billy Bart Jimmy James or Elrod? ke, the zoo called. It wants you to stop jerking off with the chimps. And at least I know who my father was. Good for you Joe. We all think it was the third chimp on the left that got your mom down behind the swamp as well. You keep cliaiming your not related to chimps But these posts your making are saying that you are You've been messing where you shouldn't have been messing And now someone else is getting all your best ke went out to dinner with its wife, sister and mother. It was a party of two.     -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,11:44    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,18:26)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,20:09)     Quote What happens to the extra energy in the thermal range kept from radiating away into space by the additional CO2 in the atmosphere? There isn't any "extra energy", dumbass, and eventually an uneasy equilibrium is reached. Joke thinks repeating his stupidity will somehow make the stupidity magically become true.   Of course this is the same moron who thinks a magic Designer somehow POOFED the whole universe and all life into existence only 6000 years ago.   :D -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,11:48    Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 14 2018,11:44) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,18:26)   Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,20:09)       Quote What happens to the extra energy in the thermal range kept from radiating away into space by the additional CO2 in the atmosphere? There isn't any "extra energy", dumbass, and eventually an uneasy equilibrium is reached. Joke thinks repeating his stupidity will somehow make the stupidity magically become true.   Of course this is the same moron who thinks a magic Designer somehow POOFED the whole universe and all life into existence only 6000 years ago.   :D And another clueless fuck chimes in. All timmy was doing was repeating the same ignorance laden question. Did it really think it was going to get a different answer? Isn't that the definition of a lunatic- someone who keeps repeating something hoping the outcome will be different from what reality dictates? And then to just baldly accept what timmy sez just proves that you are a desperate lot. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,12:14    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,11:48)   Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 14 2018,11:44)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,18:26)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,20:09)         Quote What happens to the extra energy in the thermal range kept from radiating away into space by the additional CO2 in the atmosphere? There isn't any "extra energy", dumbass, and eventually an uneasy equilibrium is reached. Joke thinks repeating his stupidity will somehow make the stupidity magically become true.   Of course this is the same moron who thinks a magic Designer somehow POOFED the whole universe and all life into existence only 6000 years ago.   And another clueless fuck chimes in. All timmy was doing was repeating the same ignorance laden question. Did it really think it was going to get a different answer? Joke we all know you're way too much of a chickenshit to ever answer a question honestly.  We keep asking the same question to watch you fart and bluster and waddle your chubby ass in the other direction.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,12:43    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 14 2018,12:14) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,11:48)   Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 14 2018,11:44)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 13 2018,18:26)       Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 13 2018,20:09)           Quote What happens to the extra energy in the thermal range kept from radiating away into space by the additional CO2 in the atmosphere? There isn't any "extra energy", dumbass, and eventually an uneasy equilibrium is reached. Joke thinks repeating his stupidity will somehow make the stupidity magically become true.   Of course this is the same moron who thinks a magic Designer somehow POOFED the whole universe and all life into existence only 6000 years ago.   And another clueless fuck chimes in. All timmy was doing was repeating the same ignorance laden question. Did it really think it was going to get a different answer? Joke we all know you're way too much of a chickenshit to ever answer a question honestly.  We keep asking the same question to watch you fart and bluster and waddle your chubby ass in the other direction.   Your projection is duly noted, timmy.     -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,13:20    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,13:14) Dembski really dumped a depreciating asset on Barry, didn't he? UD was an asset? -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,13:39    One man's rapier wit is another man's nerf-bat flailing. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,13:58    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,08:20) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,13:14) Dembski really dumped a depreciating asset on Barry, didn't he? UD was an asset? Got to give credit to Joe for making me chuckle there!

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,14:48    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 14 2018,14:24) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,13:14) Dembski really dumped a depreciating asset on Barry, didn't he? If it weren't for UD how would we ever learn about objective morality, fine tuning of the universe, the evils of kidnapping and torturing babies for fun, the evils of homosexuality and transgendered, the censoring of scientists, the climate change conspiracy and all of the other things supporting ID? You're a willfully ignorant canuk. You are incapable of learning -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2018,14:49    Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 14 2018,13:58) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,08:20) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,13:14) Dembski really dumped a depreciating asset on Barry, didn't he? UD was an asset? Got to give credit to Joe for making me chuckle there! Perhaps we have different ideas of what an asset is. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2018,17:22    Shopping cart evolution: Quote I forget the exact numbers, but there are only a couple of the proteins that make up the flagellum that don’t serve other purposes in other organisms. So they sent out messengers to gather up these proteins in one organism. But wait, you need the right number of each, with some required thousands of residues. You also need the chaperones that help them fold and ferry them to the proper location. And on top of that they need to be properly assembled, which isn't a given due to cross-reactions. So you need to account for the origins of all of those proteins, which you cannot. Then you need to get them all in the right place at the right time. And then they need to be properly assembled. No one has any idea how stochastic processes could have pulled off such a feat. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2018,18:26    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2018,15:22) Shopping cart evolution:   Quote I forget the exact numbers, but there are only a couple of the proteins that make up the flagellum that don’t serve other purposes in other organisms. So they sent out messengers to gather up these proteins in one organism. But wait, you need the right number of each, with some required thousands of residues. You also need the chaperones that help them fold and ferry them to the proper location. And on top of that they need to be properly assembled, which isn't a given due to cross-reactions. So you need to account for the origins of all of those proteins, which you cannot. Then you need to get them all in the right place at the right time. And then they need to be properly assembled. No one has any idea how stochastic processes could have pulled off such a feat. Therefore Jes-- uh, I mean Design. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2018,18:31    Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 15 2018,18:26) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 15 2018,15:22) Shopping cart evolution:     Quote I forget the exact numbers, but there are only a couple of the proteins that make up the flagellum that don’t serve other purposes in other organisms. So they sent out messengers to gather up these proteins in one organism. But wait, you need the right number of each, with some required thousands of residues. You also need the chaperones that help them fold and ferry them to the proper location. And on top of that they need to be properly assembled, which isn't a given due to cross-reactions. So you need to account for the origins of all of those proteins, which you cannot. Then you need to get them all in the right place at the right time. And then they need to be properly assembled. No one has any idea how stochastic processes could have pulled off such a feat. Therefore Jes-- uh, I mean Design. Well, if stochastic processes could not have produced it and it fits the criteria of something that was intelligently designed: Quote "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”- Dr Behe in DBB then, according to Isaac Newton's four rules of scientific reasoning it is OK to infer bacterial flagella are the result of telic processes, that is they were intelligently designed. But also according to those same four rules if someone can demonstrate that stochastic processes are up to the task, the razor neatly slices off the designer requirement. First you need to develop a methodology to test the claim. So yes, it has all of the scientific hallmarks of being intelligently designed. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,08:14    Quote (Texas Teach @ Dec. 14 2018,16:45) Quote (Alan Fox @ Dec. 14 2018,15:33) Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,10:16)   Quote     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 14 2018,08:20)     Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2018,13:14) Dembski really dumped a depreciating asset on Barry, didn't he? UD was an asset? Got to give credit to Joe for making me chuckle there! It was worth a whole lot more. They had half a dozen active front pagers, some even with degrees, several dozen commenters every day, hundreds of comments, thousands of pageviews. It took me hours a day to keep up with UD. I had to write a script to backup the whole site to my hard drive every night so i could find the comments after they deleted them, it was hard to keep up. Traffic is almost non existent now, Barry's having to pay Denyse to go through the motions of posting 'news', comments are dominated by ~3 complete lunatics. I'm just speculating here but Dembski probably sold UD to Barry for several thousand Ameros, and it's worth nothing now.   Quote Dembski probably sold UD to Barry for several thousand Ameros... Wow! Seriously? Where was the value? Ad revenue? Comedy gold. From the evoTARDs trying to understand science... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,08:19    Alan Fox soews: Quote Both (bacteria and Archaea) share a common ancestor but developed flagella independently after the split from the common ancestor; two independent solutions to motility. If and when you find scientific support for your claim you will be the first to do so. Until then what you just spewed is untestable claptrap. But I am sure you don't care. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,10:04    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,09:04) Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 16 2018,02:33) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2018,20:35)   Quote PS: You don’t want to get me going on the Alinskyite rhetorical habit of red herrings led away to strawman caricatures soaked in ad homs and set alight to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere. I do. And do you, Kairos Focus, take this internet sock, Acartia Bogart, to be your lawfully wedded tard? Ouch. That hurt. The truth usually does...   -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,10:16    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 16 2018,10:04) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,09:04) Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 16 2018,02:33)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2018,20:35)     Quote PS: You don’t want to get me going on the Alinskyite rhetorical habit of red herrings led away to strawman caricatures soaked in ad homs and set alight to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere. I do. And do you, Kairos Focus, take this internet sock, Acartia Bogart, to be your lawfully wedded tard? Ouch. That hurt. The truth usually does...  :D Is “tat” why you always have these epic meltdowns?

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,10:37    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,10:16) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 16 2018,10:04) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,09:04)   Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 16 2018,02:33)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2018,20:35)     Quote PS: You don’t want to get me going on the Alinskyite rhetorical habit of red herrings led away to strawman caricatures soaked in ad homs and set alight to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere. I do. And do you, Kairos Focus, take this internet sock, Acartia Bogart, to be your lawfully wedded tard? Ouch. That hurt. The truth usually does...   Is “tat” why you always have these epic meltdowns? What epic meltdowns? Exposing you and yours for the TARDs that you are could only be considered a meltdown by the exposed cowardly TARDs. Nice own goal       -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2018,16:14    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,13:38) Quote (fnxtr @ Dec. 16 2018,11:51) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 16 2018,07:04)   Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 16 2018,02:33)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 15 2018,20:35)     Quote PS: You don’t want to get me going on the Alinskyite rhetorical habit of red herrings led away to strawman caricatures soaked in ad homs and set alight to cloud, confuse, poison and polarise the atmosphere. I do. And do you, Kairos Focus, take this internet sock, Acartia Bogart, to be your lawfully wedded tard? Ouch. That hurt. Funny af tho. But me marrying KF would make Joe extremely jealous. Only if I wasn't invited to the ceremony.     -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,08:06    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29) Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                 Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.  :D  Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   :) And your position still has no papers published in peer-reviewed journals. Nothing that supports the claim of blind and mindless processes producing proteins, multi-protein machines- nothing. No one even uses the concept for anything. It is all piles of shit. -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,08:06    Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,22:45) Occam's Aftershave:       Quote Unified TARD Theory.    Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.  But he discovered all those theories use numbers!  That unifies them! And all evos have discovered is how to be cowardly gossips -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,08:34    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Dec. 17 2018,08:31) Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29) Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                   Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.  :D  Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   :) It must be a good paper. It got published in a peer reviewed journal. And there is still nothing in peer-review that supports evolution by means of blind and mindless processes... -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,09:26    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,08:06)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                     Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.    Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   And your position still has no papers published in peer-reviewed journals. Nothing that supports the claim of blind and mindless processes producing proteins, multi-protein machines- nothing. No one even uses the concept for anything. It is all piles of shit. Hey Joke, how's your search for the world's largest number coming?   Any luck yet?     -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,09:37    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 17 2018,09:26) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,08:06)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29)     Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                     Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.    Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   And your position still has no papers published in peer-reviewed journals. Nothing that supports the claim of blind and mindless processes producing proteins, multi-protein machines- nothing. No one even uses the concept for anything. It is all piles of shit. Hey Joke, how's your search for the world's largest number coming?   Any luck yet?     Hey timmy, how is your search for the shit code? How many more piles of shit do you have to eat to find it?     -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,10:15    Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,09:37)   Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 17 2018,09:26)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,08:06)       Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29)         Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                         Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.    Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   And your position still has no papers published in peer-reviewed journals. Nothing that supports the claim of blind and mindless processes producing proteins, multi-protein machines- nothing. No one even uses the concept for anything. It is all piles of shit. Hey Joke, how's your search for the world's largest number coming?   Any luck yet?     Hey timmy, how is your search for the shit code? LOL!  Chubby Joke sure gets angry when called on his stupidity, doesn't he?       Just watch that meltdown spittle fly! -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Joe G Posts: 12011 Joined: July 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 17 2018,10:26    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 17 2018,10:15) Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,09:37)     Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 17 2018,09:26)     Quote (Joe G @ Dec. 17 2018,08:06)         Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 16 2018,21:29)         Quote (CeilingCat @ Dec. 16 2018,19:55) This is a couple of days late, but we've been blessed with an article from George Montañez, Assistant Professor in the Computer Sciences Department at Harvey Mudd College (which I believe is a real university and not a Star Trek episode) entitled, "The Unified Model of Complex Specified Information" by a Professor who's surely destined (or perhaps designed) to become the Einstein of ID:                           Quote A Unified Model of Complex Specified Information A mathematical theory of complex specified information is introduced which unifies several prior methods of computing specified complexity. Similar to how the exponential family of probability distributions have dissimilar surface forms yet share a common underlying mathematical identity, we define a model that allows us to cast Dembski’s semiotic specified complexity, Ewert et al.’s algorithmic specified complexity, Hazen et al.’s functional information, and Behe’s irreducible complexity into a common mathematical form.* Adding additional constraints, we introduce canonical specified complexity models, for which one-sided conservation bounds are given, showing that large specified complexity values are unlikely under any given continuous or discrete distribution and that canonical models can be used to form statistical hypothesis tests, by bounding tail probabilities for arbitrary distributions. Details from Denyse d'Nord, probably the only philosopher in Christiandom capable of fully understanding the Professor, here. * In other words, he's independantly invented zero. Unified TARD Theory.  :D  Basically what he did was take four little piles of stinking horseshit and make one big pile.  That probably qualifies him for some sort of special short-yellow-bus award from the DI.   On the positive side, it did increase the 2018 total number of ID papers published at Bio-Complexity from 2 to 3.   :) And your position still has no papers published in peer-reviewed journals. Nothing that supports the claim of blind and mindless processes producing proteins, multi-protein machines- nothing. No one even uses the concept for anything. It is all piles of shit. Hey Joke, how's your search for the world's largest number coming?   Any luck yet?    :D Hey timmy, how is your search for the shit code? LOL!  Chubby Joke sure gets angry when called on his stupidity, doesn't he?    :D   Just watch that meltdown spittle fly! Wow, what a self-unaware coward. I am calling YOU on YOUR stupidity, timmy. Have you found the shit code yet or do you need to keep eating piles of shit?  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D -------------- "Facts are Stupid"- Timothy Horton aka Occam's Afterbirth "Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

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