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JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2018,14:21    Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 27 2018,12:11) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 26 2018,16:47) Batshitcrazy77 laying down the gauntlet, if not actually threatening violence   Quote Ed George, if you don’t think that “pro-life is a strongly held religious belief” that should be given the full protection of the law perhaps you would like to debate the details of the matter a little more personally in my basement so as to give me the chance to convince you that you yourself are a deeply ‘religious’ pro-life advocate? Far more so than you think. Or is he just inviting EG to his basement for a little Bible reading? Deeply crazy And here we are once again, at the ultimate end-game of religion. "Believe what I tell you to believe, or I will kill you." Same as it ever was. The Universal Moral Code rides again... -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 27 2018,16:55    Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 27 2018,15:11) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 26 2018,16:47) Batshitcrazy77 laying down the gauntlet, if not actually threatening violence   Quote Ed George, if you don’t think that “pro-life is a strongly held religious belief” that should be given the full protection of the law perhaps you would like to debate the details of the matter a little more personally in my basement so as to give me the chance to convince you that you yourself are a deeply ‘religious’ pro-life advocate? Far more so than you think. Or is he just inviting EG to his basement for a little Bible reading? Deeply crazy And here we are once again, at the ultimate end-game of religion. "Believe what I tell you to believe, or I will kill you." Same as it ever was. The impeccable logic of a 3rd-grade playground bully.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2018,02:34    ba77 - Quote Seversky, it is humorous that you, of all people, the most dogmatic Darwinian atheist on UD, would be the only one to defend Ed G.’s claim that socialized medicine is the way for America to go. It is also humorous that you, of all people, the most dogmatic Darwinian atheist on UD, want me to cite specific evidence for these claims. Shorter ba77 - "I'm not going to provide any evidence to back up my claims, AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT". -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2018,16:26    Quote We’re not even sure what dark matter IS November 28, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 3 Comments Truly shocking news, Dense.

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2018,17:10    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 28 2018,16:26) Quote We’re not even sure what dark matter IS November 28, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 3 Comments Truly shocking news, Dense. ...therefore Jesus. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2018,17:37    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 28 2018,17:10) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 28 2018,16:26) Quote We’re not even sure what dark matter IS November 28, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 3 Comments Truly shocking news, Dense. ...therefore Jesus. No. If it is dark, it must be Satan.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 28 2018,20:54    Yeah, but it's not dark, it's invisible.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,15:42    Quote 6 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:05 am Dark matter is a desperate attempt to rescue a failing theory. And, in my estimation, that is all it is. Possibly (time will tell) it is also a failure. Quote 7 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 7:19 am SuzzaMan, Do you have any suggestions which might yield a better theory? Quote 8 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:26 am daveS: The evidence presented by the electric universe theorists is quite compelling in its claims that gravity is not the be-all and end-all of cosmic structure. Whether their theory is any better at explaining other things I could not say, but my view is they’ve done more than enough to demonstrate that electromagnetism cannot be discounted in the matter of galactic formation and behaviour. Thus, the inventing of unobservables in order to maintain current orthodoxy does not appear at all necessary nor desirable. Quote 9 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 8:19 am Thanks for that, ScuzzaMan. linky

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,16:04    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,15:42) Quote 6 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:05 am Dark matter is a desperate attempt to rescue a failing theory. And, in my estimation, that is all it is. Possibly (time will tell) it is also a failure. Quote 7 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 7:19 am SuzzaMan, Do you have any suggestions which might yield a better theory? Quote 8 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:26 am daveS: The evidence presented by the electric universe theorists is quite compelling in its claims that gravity is not the be-all and end-all of cosmic structure. Whether their theory is any better at explaining other things I could not say, but my view is they’ve done more than enough to demonstrate that electromagnetism cannot be discounted in the matter of galactic formation and behaviour. Thus, the inventing of unobservables in order to maintain current orthodoxy does not appear at all necessary nor desirable. Quote 9 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 8:19 am Thanks for that, ScuzzaMan. linky Fuckin’ universal magnets, how do they work? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 29 2018,18:46    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 29 2018,15:04) Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,15:42) Quote 6 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:05 am Dark matter is a desperate attempt to rescue a failing theory. And, in my estimation, that is all it is. Possibly (time will tell) it is also a failure.   Quote 7 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 7:19 am SuzzaMan, Do you have any suggestions which might yield a better theory?   Quote 8 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:26 am daveS: The evidence presented by the electric universe theorists is quite compelling in its claims that gravity is not the be-all and end-all of cosmic structure. Whether their theory is any better at explaining other things I could not say, but my view is they’ve done more than enough to demonstrate that electromagnetism cannot be discounted in the matter of galactic formation and behaviour. Thus, the inventing of unobservables in order to maintain current orthodoxy does not appear at all necessary nor desirable.   Quote 9 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 8:19 am Thanks for that, ScuzzaMan. linky Fuckin’ universal magnets, how do they work? They have a magnetic personality.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,04:53    gpuccio - Quote Well, the probolem here is that the “random” collapse could be exactly what consciousness could control, making it apparently random, but controlled in reality. That’s why a quantum interface has been invoked by many, starting with Eccles, as a possible tool for free will. Eccles? I'm guessing he means a different Eccles. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

rossum Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 30 2018,08:32    Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 30 2018,04:53) Eccles? I'm guessing he means a different Eccles. Ahhh... Eccles.  He knows what time is is. -------------- The ultimate truth is that there is no ultimate truth.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2018,15:38    Quote Quantum physicist: The particle itself does not know where it is December 1, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 1 Comment In this 2018 video, quantum physicist Anton Zeilinger explains the essence of quantum physics for a general audience: The skinny, courtesy Philip Cunningham:... Worth noting that Philip the idiot got random dent banned for pointing out that Phil can't solve basic Intro to QM problems. Edited by stevestory on Dec. 01 2018,16:39

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2018,17:37    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 01 2018,13:38) Quote Quantum physicist: The particle itself does not know where it is December 1, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 1 Comment In this 2018 video, quantum physicist Anton Zeilinger explains the essence of quantum physics for a general audience: The skinny, courtesy Philip Cunningham:... Worth noting that Philip the idiot got random dent banned for pointing out that Phil can't solve basic Intro to QM problems. Arthur's brother? -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2018,17:47    Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 01 2018,15:38) Quote Quantum physicist: The particle itself does not know where it is December 1, 2018 Posted by News under Cosmology, Intelligent Design, Physics 1 Comment In this 2018 video, quantum physicist Anton Zeilinger explains the essence of quantum physics for a general audience: The skinny, courtesy Philip Cunningham:... Worth noting that Philip the idiot got random dent banned for pointing out that Phil can't solve basic Intro to QM problems. Are you suggesting that Batshitcrazy77 goes running to Barry every time anyone asks him a question that he can’t answer without embarrassing himself? I am shocked that you would make such an accusation against such a good Christian. Shocked, I say.

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2018,22:35    Even though I'm banned, or blocked, or something, I still post things occasionally just to linger in limbo. After Seversky made a reasonable comment about the fact that the Zellinger video was interesting, and about how there is more than reductionistic descriptions of the world, ba posted four typical, long hodge-podge posts (8000 words). My response: "Way to derail a potentially interesting discussion, ba!" He just an automaton: push a button and out comes some copy-paste subset of his supply of pre-written comments and links. Weird.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 01 2018,23:37    Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 01 2018,22:35) Even though I'm banned, or blocked, or something, I still post things occasionally just to linger in limbo. After Seversky made a reasonable comment about the fact that the Zellinger video was interesting, and about how there is more than reductionistic descriptions of the world, ba posted four typical, long hodge-podge posts (8000 words). My response: "Way to derail a potentially interesting discussion, ba!" He just an automaton: push a button and out comes some copy-paste subset of his supply of pre-written comments and links. Weird. Just click on his name. It’s good for a laugh. Not good for anything else, but a laugh...? Verbal diarrhoea

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,02:46    Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,15:35) He just an automaton: push a button and out comes some copy-paste subset of his supply of pre-written comments and links. He doesn't appear to have noticed that some of his source material is old enough to have become irrelevant. At least three of the links in those four comments lead to expired pages, e.g. a link to UC Riverside:     Quote 404 - Content Not Found We're Sorry, The requested object or URL could not be found. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or has been removed. No-one over there appears to have been kind enough to mention this to him. -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,07:29    That's because no one ever clicks on those links, or watches those videos that have been posted literally dozens of times.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,07:31    Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 01 2018,17:35) Even though I'm banned, or blocked, or something, I still post things occasionally just to linger in limbo. Jack, I suspect your comments are going straight to trash. My IP is blocked from wayback but if I switch to VPN and try and post on my old account, I can log in, compose a comment and post it but it just disappears. No "your comment is awaiting moderation". Barry would appear to be using the "comment blacklist" filter, where a comment "contains any of these words in its content, name, URL, email, or IP address, it will be put in the trash".

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,12:07    That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway.

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2018,14:49    Quote (Jkrebs @ Dec. 02 2018,07:07) That is, banned. Thanks for the explanation, Alan. All in all, better for me to not be able to post, anyway. My sympathy for a fellow SIWOTI sufferer! :)

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2018,15:46    My curiosity finally got the better of me: what is SIWOTI? :-)

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2018,16:22    I just googled it. Something (or Someone) Is Wrong On The Internet

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2018,17:01    -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2018,19:35    Not about the Uncommonly Dense ones but over at the Discover Institute tard farm they are heavily pushing Behe's new (regurgitated) piece of trash book Darwin Devolves as "the perfect Christmas gift!".  Perfect if your loved one just had a complete frontal lobotomy that is. What caught my attention is if you order now you get for free a , ahem, "41 episode video series university-level course on Intelligent Design".   41 episodes.   I'm guessing it runs a bit past 20 minutes total.  30 seconds each episode to point to some biological objects and say "gee, this sure looks designed to me!" I do love the blurb at the end claiming "This course is a $50 value!"   $50 for a university level course sounds about right for ID clown college.   -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 04 2018,22:48    Quote (Henry J @ Dec. 04 2018,16:22) I just googled it. Something (or Someone) Is Wrong On The Internet Duh. Why didn't I google? Thanks.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2018,00:12    Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 05 2018,03:35) Not about the Uncommonly Dense ones but over at the Discover Institute tard farm they are heavily pushing Behe's new (regurgitated) piece of trash book Darwin Devolves as "the perfect Christmas gift!".  Perfect if your loved one just had a complete frontal lobotomy that is. What caught my attention is if you order now you get for free a , ahem, "41 episode video series university-level course on Intelligent Design".  :D 41 episodes.   I'm guessing it runs a bit past 20 minutes total.  30 seconds each episode to point to some biological objects and say "gee, this sure looks designed to me!" I do love the blurb at the end claiming "This course is a $50 value!"   $50 for a university level course sounds about right for ID clown college.  :D Spending $50 at a circus would be much better value. Still if those clowns want a university course they could try  Ecole Philippe Gaulier at only 2300€ a term. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Lethean Posts: 292 Joined: Jan. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2018,15:58    Quote (stevestory @ Nov. 29 2018,15:42)   Quote 6 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:05 am Dark matter is a desperate attempt to rescue a failing theory. And, in my estimation, that is all it is. Possibly (time will tell) it is also a failure.     Quote 7 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 7:19 am SuzzaMan, Do you have any suggestions which might yield a better theory?     Quote 8 ScuzzaManNovember 29, 2018 at 7:26 am daveS: The evidence presented by the electric universe theorists is quite compelling in its claims that gravity is not the be-all and end-all of cosmic structure. Whether their theory is any better at explaining other things I could not say, but my view is they’ve done more than enough to demonstrate that electromagnetism cannot be discounted in the matter of galactic formation and behaviour. Thus, the inventing of unobservables in order to maintain current orthodoxy does not appear at all necessary nor desirable.     Quote 9 daveSNovember 29, 2018 at 8:19 am Thanks for that, ScuzzaMan. linky Color me shocked that with all the hardcore science'ing going on over at UD they haven't discovered this themselves rather than those clearly fraudulent dogmatic Darwinian atheistic materialists. Bringing balance to the universe: New theory could explain missing 95 percent of the cosmos -------------- "So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance." "My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it." ~Dave Hawkins~

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Dec. 05 2018,20:53    ET just got spanked by another IDist. Quote ET to Ed George:  No one cares what those scientists take seriously as they definitely cannot offer a better explanation. Quote Ed responds: That approach shows the same level of maturity as the kid who doesn’t get his way in the playground so he takes his ball and goes home. Is that really what you are recommending?

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