|The whole truth
Joined: Jan. 2012
Oh man, is this ever getting to be ridiculous. I've tried to stay mostly out of it but I've just got to say something.
Whatever happened to 'equality'? And I don't mean just equal pay for equal work. I wish I had a dollar for every time a woman has belligerently shoved the following rants in my face:
"I don't need a man!"
"I can take care of myself!"
"I'm equal and want to be treated like it!"
And much more.
Women are anxious to demand and proclaim their equality but most or all of them also EXPECT to be protected (and provided for) by a man or men.
And then there are the games that women play with men (and each other). Some of you talk as though women are all innocent little waifs. That's a laugh. Even women often get sick and tired of the games that other woman play.
And what's with the 'get her drunk' crap? I seriously doubt that anyone FORCED any woman to get drunk at any conference. If a woman can't control her own drinking or other behavior, that is NOT a man's fault. Equality comes with responsibility. Equality is not a gift of special treatment. If you want to blame someone, blame the parents of the woman for not bringing her up to ACT equal, which includes taking responsibility for her own behavior.
Yeah, I have a knight in shining armor in me too, and like Ogre, I would protect my daughter with my own life. I would also protect, without hesitation, any other woman that is being harassed or attacked. However, the situation at hand is NOT the same thing. No one is claiming that a man or men physically FORCED them into having sex under threat of harm and no one witnessed any so-called rape. And just propositioning a woman or asking her to have coffee is not rape or a bad thing. I have been propositioned by women many times, and often bluntly. Should I have cried rape every time? Should I have 'warned' other guys? Should I have made a big stink about it immediately or years later on the internet?
If this situation were reversed and it were a man doing the exact same complaining/accusing, would any of you feel sorry for him or protective of him? Would any of you push for publicly exposing and accusing the woman or women who allegedly took advantage of him? Would any of you say that 'she' got 'him' drunk and raped him?
If a man complained of being propositioned or offered coffee by a woman, in an elevator or elsewhere, would any of you jump to his defense and call for special protective measures and public warnings about the woman? Would any of you make a big stink about it on the internet?
hotshoe, driver, febble, or any others who are eager to crucify Shermer or any other guys, you need to learn the word 'alleged' because you don't KNOW what happened or if anything did happened. Shermer may be a creep and a cad but no one has produced any evidence of such or of any rape. Everything that has been claimed is either hearsay or could just be made up.
And no, I'm not defending Shermer because he's an atheist or a man. I've barely ever heard of him except for the rape accusations against him. I'm just fed up with all the unsubstantiated accusations, whining, and demands for special protection and treatment by radical, self-proclaimed 'feminist skeptics' who don't have a clue about personal responsibility, equality, skepticism, and evidence.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27