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Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,14:51    Quote (stevestory @ July 03 2018,13:56) Quote New book from Michael Behe on how today’s DNA findings “devolve” Darwin July 3, 2018 Posted by News under Darwinism, Evolution, Genetics, Genomics, Intelligent Design Fuck zat supposed to mean? linky It won't be peer reviewed, but we know how bad peer review, and science in general, is.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,14:54    Quote (Ptaylor @ July 03 2018,03:34) Hmm - quiet over there and here - is most of Merrika on some sort of extra extra long weekend with 4th of July being on a Wednesday this year? Anyway, this gave me a smile - BA77 has posted a couple of consecutive comments on the "Neuroscientist: Free will is an illusion…” thread. They comprise over 3,000 words his usual dense prose wandering over several topics, and with numerous links including one back to UD and two to his own YouTube videos. So it's business as usual at UD, although in a great piece of product placement kairosfocus immediately follows up with:           Quote 5 kairosfocus  July 2, 2018 at 5:30 am The self-referential incoherence is now undeniable. UD link You can only get so much enjoyment out of making fun of Mullings and Batshitcrazy77.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,15:11    Quote You can only get so much enjoyment out of making fun of Mullings and Batshitcrazy77. Especially considering that you kind of have to actually read their stuff before doing that.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,16:59    Quote (Henry J @ July 03 2018,15:11) Quote You can only get so much enjoyment out of making fun of Mullings and Batshitcrazy77. Especially considering that you kind of have to actually read their stuff before doing that. That has never been my experience.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,18:25    doh! -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,18:26    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 03 2018,14:59)   Quote (Henry J @ July 03 2018,15:11)   Quote You can only get so much enjoyment out of making fun of Mullings and Batshitcrazy77. Especially considering that you kind of have to actually read their stuff before doing that. That has never been my experience. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2018,11:51    UD has devolved to a dozen half-wits babbling about jesus and abortion and Objective Morality. It's still occasionally fun, though. :-)

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2018,12:43    Quote (stevestory @ July 04 2018,11:51) UD has devolved to a dozen half-wits babbling about jesus and abortion and Objective Morality. It's still occasionally fun, though. :-) If I am doing my math correctly, that would equate to six full wits.

Occam's Aftershave Posts: 5287 Joined: Feb. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2018,13:36    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 03 2018,14:51)   Quote (stevestory @ July 03 2018,13:56)   Quote New book from Michael Behe on how today’s DNA findings “devolve” Darwin July 3, 2018 Posted by News under Darwinism, Evolution, Genetics, Genomics, Intelligent Design Fuck zat supposed to mean? linky It won't be peer reviewed, but we know how bad peer review, and science in general, is. Behe is trying his level best to be as big a pimple on the ass of scientific knowledge as Meyer is and Dembski was.  Evolution works by modifying what already exists so if you define that as "devolving" or getting worse then of course life is "devolving". What a sad little man Behe has become, prostituting his scientific training and knowledge to con a few IDiot mouth-breathers out of their $$ with another science-free propaganda book. -------------- "CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way" "All the evidence supports Creation baraminology" "If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic." "Jews and Christians are Muslims." - Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 04 2018,16:27    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 04 2018,11:43) Quote (stevestory @ July 04 2018,11:51) UD has devolved to a dozen half-wits babbling about jesus and abortion and Objective Morality. It's still occasionally fun, though. :-) If I am doing my math correctly, that would equate to six full wits. So is that why they keep trying to wit-ness to everybody? (Or should that be witless to everybody?) Anyway. I reckon "devolve" would be diminishing of a feature that has become less useful than it used to be? (Presumably due to changes in the environment, or perhaps migration to a different environment.)

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2018,08:50    Quote (Henry J @ July 05 2018,00:27) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 04 2018,11:43)   Quote (stevestory @ July 04 2018,11:51) UD has devolved to a dozen half-wits babbling about jesus and abortion and Objective Morality. It's still occasionally fun, though. :-) If I am doing my math correctly, that would equate to six full wits. So is that why they keep trying to wit-ness to everybody? (Or should that be witless to everybody?) Anyway. I reckon "devolve" would be diminishing of a feature that has become less useful than it used to be? (Presumably due to changes in the environment, or perhaps migration to a different environment.) I'm guessing you're not going to pay Behe to find out that's what he's going on about? -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2018,12:59    Quote (Henry J @ July 04 2018,14:27)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ July 04 2018,11:43)     Quote (stevestory @ July 04 2018,11:51) UD has devolved to a dozen half-wits babbling about jesus and abortion and Objective Morality. It's still occasionally fun, though. :-) If I am doing my math correctly, that would equate to six full wits. So is that why they keep trying to wit-ness to everybody? (Or should that be witless to everybody?) Anyway. I reckon "devolve" would be diminishing of a feature that has become less useful than it used to be? (Presumably due to changes in the environment, or perhaps migration to a different environment.) -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 05 2018,14:56    Quote 4 The creationist July 5, 2018 at 10:45 am If the starting point of evolution is a ‘simple single cell’, and they can’t demonstrate that starting point, they’re cheating. They have brought a store bought cake to a bake-off. derp

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2018,17:44    Firefox has this to say, others may have seen it already: Quote Your connection is not secure The owner of www.uncommondescent.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. Learn more… Report errors like this to help Mozilla identify and block malicious sites www.uncommondescent.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for uncommondescent.com. Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2018,17:59    Quote (stevestory @ July 05 2018,12:56) Quote 4 The creationist July 5, 2018 at 10:45 am If the starting point of evolution is a ‘simple single cell’, and they can’t demonstrate that starting point, they’re cheating. They have brought a store bought cake to a bake-off. derp The starting point of Poof! is totally settled science. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2018,18:20    it's wrong anyway. You can have a theory of gravity without an explanation of where mass came from, you can have a theory of electromagnetics without explaining how the big bang produced electrons, you can have a theory of how germs cause polio without an explanation of how germs evolved. 'The creationist' is just a typical dumbass.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 06 2018,20:44    Yeah. Physics pretty much has at have at least one level where it's descriptions of what's been observed or measured. When physics advances, that level moves to smaller and smaller things, but it's still there (matter -> molecules -> atoms -> protons and neutrons -> quarks -> quantum "particles" -> ?).

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,00:38    Quote (Henry J @ July 06 2018,20:44) Yeah. Physics pretty much has at have at least one level where it's descriptions of what's been observed or measured. When physics advances, that level moves to smaller and smaller things, but it's still there (matter -> molecules -> atoms -> protons and neutrons -> quarks -> quantum "particles" -> ?). The (or at least “one”) hypothesized next level, after quarks, is “Preons”.

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,10:25    Interesting article about preons. Also, I notice that the Wikipedia website has been redesigned.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,10:40    Quote (Jkrebs @ July 07 2018,11:25) Interesting article about preons. Also, I notice that the Wikipedia website has been redesigned. Looks like they made it 'mobile friendly'.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,10:47    BORING

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,16:58    Quote (Jkrebs @ July 07 2018,05:25) Interesting article about preons. Also, I notice that the Wikipedia website has been redesigned. Jack, I have to say I'm impressed in how you are running gentle rings around KF.

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: July 07 2018,22:17    Thanks, Alan. The MN/PN issue was central to our arguments during the Kansas Science Standards battles, so I feel on solid ground responding to kf's paranoid "materialism is everywhere" concerns.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2018,06:59    Quote (Jkrebs @ July 07 2018,23:17) Thanks, Alan. The MN/PN issue was central to our arguments during the Kansas Science Standards battles, so I feel on solid ground responding to kf's paranoid "materialism is everywhere" concerns. are you posting as jdk?

Jkrebs Posts: 590 Joined: Sep. 2004 (Permalink) Posted: July 08 2018,07:41    Yes. I've outed myself, so to speak, so kf and others know who I am.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2018,15:48    Quote 81 jdk July 9, 2018 at 2:22 pm kf writes, “JDK, pardon but you missed the main point again.” No, I did not miss the main point. I disagree with your main point: that is different. Millions of people do not believe that, to put it succinctly, MN entails PN. I think they are right, and you are wrong. That is not “missing the point.”     I wonder if there's a term for someone who's not able to understand that they might be wrong.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2018,15:59    I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was mistaken.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2018,15:59    Quote 75 ET July 9, 2018 at 8:19 am jdk does not understand science nor how science operates. Says the guy who doesn't understand high school math, about the NCSE member  :D  :D  :D

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2018,16:04    Quote (stevestory @ July 09 2018,15:48) Quote 81 jdk July 9, 2018 at 2:22 pm kf writes, “JDK, pardon but you missed the main point again.” No, I did not miss the main point. I disagree with your main point: that is different. Millions of people do not believe that, to put it succinctly, MN entails PN. I think they are right, and you are wrong. That is not “missing the point.” [URL=https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-louisiana-science-education-act-a-decade-later-darwin-not-worshipped-swamp-monsters-no t-on-the-loose/#comment-661413]:p  :p  :p [/URL] I wonder if there's a term for someone who's not able to understand that they might be wrong. Mullings Syndrome. I understand that it is chronic and incurable. But, thankfully, only contagious amongst homophobic creationists.

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: July 09 2018,22:11    Re "Mullings Syndrome. I understand that it is chronic and incurable. " Not even with prayer?

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