Bebbo
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| Quote (Bebbo @ Jan. 10 2009,07:41) | | Quote (dvunkannon @ Jan. 09 2009,09:14) | My atheist bus comment that Clive will never let see the light of day at UD -
Even if you accept that "eastern ethics" come from God, they are not being taught in the name of God. The point stands that the Golden Rule can form the basis for human relations, independent of its source.
Why is there social and altruistic behavior in nature, outside of human society? At the very least, those same principles can operate within human society. A human is not a virus. |
Reading StephenB leads to an open mouthed "what the f**k" moment:
"Real goodness is inseparable from the kind of courage, humility, and wisdom that thinks beyond this life. If our short stay here is all there is, then there is no such thing as goodness, only survival. If we don’t live forever, then all goodness is wasted, all hope is misguided, and every promise is a cruel joke."
So feeding the starving, rescuing someone from peril, providing comfort and healing to the ill isn't real goodness unless the person thinks there's an eternal life??!!!!! |
StephenB telling materialists that they should despair:
| Quote | | If there is no God and no afterlife, there is no way to transform that gruesome fact into a rosy picture, and there is no way to make the best of an impossible situation. It is far better, in my judgment, to lay it on the line just as Sartre does. Acknowledge that the universe is absurd, and stop all this silly business about materialist “ethics” or arbitrary standards of goodness. If the universe is absurd, then despair really is the only reasonable response. |
Well, I find the Christian conception of the universe to be more absurd than a materialist one, so if I ever get converted to Christianity (fat chance) then I guess despair will be my only reasonable response.
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This HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!11111!!oneoneeleven)!
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