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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,09:35   

BTW, I would love to lock BS77 in a room with my copy of Griffiths and agree to let him out once he correctly solves at least 3 problems from chapter 2. Fairly simple problems involving the Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation. Surely he could do that, right? I mean, he's constantly blathering about what QM means, I'm sure he could do some basic problems, aren't you?


   
Lethean



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,11:21   

Screw the cat, we're talking Quantum Christianity here. All that matters is Jesus is both dead and alive.

Also, the binky of Turin.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,12:01   

Quote (stevestory @ June 17 2018,09:35)
BTW, I would love to lock BS77 in a room with my copy of Griffiths and agree to let him out once he correctly solves at least 3 problems from chapter 2. Fairly simple problems involving the Time-Independent Schrödinger Equation. Surely he could do that, right? I mean, he's constantly blathering about what QM means, I'm sure he could do some basic problems, aren't you?


But unless you unlocked the door, how would you know he had answered them correctly?

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,12:09   

My confidence that BS77 could solve for a particle in a finite potential well is equivalent to my confidence that I can catch a Leprechaun and force him to take me to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,13:17   

Morning chuckles. I thank you.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,13:26   

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AnimatedDustJune 16, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Very eloquently stated, this essay, um, SA.

As an aside, I am missing my WJM.

William if you are reading, please opine on some of these posts. I am missing your profound wisdom!

And I am sure it’s not just me!

BA, thank you for being so diligent and persistent in the face of such idiocy. It takes a long time to get through your posts and links, but I do and it is worth every minute. Thank you for all you do.
i honestly wondered if anyone ever read BS77's posts. Looks like at least one person claims to.

Or maybe philip just has a sock puppet.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,13:28   

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redwave June 17, 2018 at 8:23 am
A new religion emerges from a milieu of well founded religious beliefs, in which well founded means prevailing, broadly accepted, and codified. This is generally the case and a new religion will have attributes from a religion’s predecessor, yet believed to correct errors in knowledge, advance new interpretations, and extend the experience of the aging religion. The labels called atheism and agnosticism are often used to identify or describe a new religion’s adherents, because the rejection and denial of community gods or a religion’s inability or unwillingness to effectively answer new questions from new experiential knowledge. When there is an expansion of atheism and agnosticism there is a rolling back of continuity between the old and the new, a transitional space broadens. This happens because religious beliefs have both experiential continuity and discontinuity in where a new religion could represent a natural propensity to resolve the discontinuity through reinterpretation of the underlying continuity.

The present day transitional space for religious beliefs has become fertile ground for speculators, new prophets, avatars, savants, and new messiahs. But within a transitional space for religious beliefs one challenge is the prognostication of which or whom will prevail overtime, which new religion will become the old religion. The old religion could adapt and change in arbitrary ways from the tension with or against the expansion of knowledge and the reinterpretations of accepted knowledge. Yet many adherents of the old religion will migrate to the new religion because of social, cultural, and political pressures, which pressures are typically inter-generational.

The “generality” of this view has exceptions and the use of the concepts “old” and “new” is imprecise. The imprecision, generality with exceptions, is in part due to the present day existential position in the transitional space and our inability to prognosticate. Atheism and agnosticism, along with old religions, will continue and contract in numbers and import narrowing the transitional space as a new religion develops and expands to fill the space with adherents. Theisms and religious beliefs are not sustainable in isolation from atheism and agnosticism. And a new religion can not emerge outside the milieu of an old religion, or rarely so. The relationships are natural however their oppositional views become.

We can view the foregoing process only through an interpretation of our history or living long enough to observe, let us say a life lived over multiple generations, a continuous life observing the discontinuities and transitional spaces. An interesting interpretive observation is inter-generational continuity of singular lives are recounted in the oldest religions, exempli gratia, Sumero-Akkadian, Abrahamic, Hinduism, Buddhism, Aboriginal, Ancestral Taoism, et cetera. The unwritten, or oft unconscious, hope of the new is to become like the old, that discontinuity is overwhelmed by continuity, that the new truths asserted will remain, that we emerge from a transitional space into “the light of day”, that we live forever.

In an informal manner, one might agree with Qoheleth and say, ” … there is nothing new under the sun … “. A new religion will be as perplexed and perplexing as the old religion.
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doubterJune 17, 2018 at 11:53 am
It is not unexpected that the oncoming wave toward the lifestyle of being spiritual but not religious is denigrated in this blog.


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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,13:31   

my bolding:
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Silver Asiatic June 14, 2018 at 2:15 pm
The most vulnerable in society (in this case the teenage girls) have to pay the price of the social manipulators.
We have a broken society where the collaboration, love and respect between men and women is now a warfare. A failure to respect women and uniquely feminine qualities (both men and women are to blame) gave rise to feminist claims that “there is no difference between men and women”. That lead to masculine women and effeminate men — both rebelling and fighting against the other, destroying themselves in the process.
The logical consequence is boys who feel like women, think they’re really female and merely need sex-change operations to become female.
It’s a continued disrespect.
Some will argue that women “should” be able to compete with men because the only differences are learned from society. They point to women who can bench-press 600 pounds.
All of this is from people who have a loathing for women – and that’s not only men who are abusive. Feminist women have hatred for themselves and want to be men.
It’s logical for boys to see hardened, masculine women and just decide to be gay because the result is the same but a lot easier to deal with.
The girls are just trying to protect themselves, or they think they’re going to win something – and mostly they’re just don’t what the social manipulators tell them.
I see it every day in the working world. Women aggressively competing with men in every aspect of work (although very few want the dirty jobs).
crack is a hell of a drug.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,20:43   

john_a_designer's adding his bit of Tard to the thread:  
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11 john_a_designerJune 15, 2018 at 8:05 pm

In 1976 Bruce Jenner won the Decathlon at the Olympic Games in Montreal. Now he has decided that he is a woman. Is this something he decided recently or is it something “he” knew/ felt/ believed from a very young age? If it’s the latter then isn’t his gold medal illegitimate? There is no Decathlon for women; only men are allowed to compete. This why the whole transgender rights movement is so dishonest and disingenuous– and so morally bankrupt.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,21:09   

So that sort of change is somehow retroactive? Huh.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,21:13   

johnnyb, whose secret identity is The Blyth Institute, wonders if they give Nobel Prizes for Dunning-kruger studies:  
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According to the overrated philosopher, David Hume ...

There was more, but I couldn't stomach it.

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,22:29   

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bornagain77 June 18, 2018 at 8:59 pm

Mr. Arrington per Allan Keith’s post at 14.

I ask that Allan Keith be removed from UD if he continues his trollish behavior towards me. This is the second time he has responded in such a juvenile manner towards one of my posts.

And I will hold my breath until you ban him.

What a whining little jerk.

  
Ptaylor



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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,22:42   

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johnnyb, whose secret identity is The Blyth Institute, wonders if they give Nobel Prizes for Dunning-kruger studies:        
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According to the overrated philosopher, David Hume ...

There was more, but I couldn't stomach it.

Link

I think you meant StephenB, who I believe is Johnny's less pleasant and more puritanical cousin. I read a little further - it was hard going, but I got rewarded with this paragraph:
   
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From the all this information about the “is,” (complementarity and biology) we can derive four distinct moral conclusions: [a] Men should not have sex with men. [b] Women should not have sex with women. [c] Same sex marriage cannot and does not exist. [d] Any law that defines so-called “gay marriage” as a true marriage is an evil lie and should be resisted.

...so all science as usual at UD. Barry loves it, although Denyse almost immediately pushed it off the top position with one of her News items. For once I am a little disappointed to see sane commenters Bob O'H and Allan Keith giving the OP oxygen in the comments, but maybe we'll see another pwning like the one that stevestory linked to a few days ago.

Edited by Ptaylor on June 19 2018,15:42

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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,22:45   

From Barry:
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Barry: I am not going to argue theology with you.

Allan: That would be wise.

Barry: Indeed, wise in the same way that not trying to each a pig to sing is wise. It does no good and it annoys the pig.

You can’t make this shit up.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,22:46   

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From Barry:
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Barry: I am not going to argue theology with you.

Allan: That would be wise.

Barry: Indeed, wise in the same way that not trying to each a pig to sing is wise. It does no good and it annoys the pig.

You can’t make this shit up.

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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 18 2018,22:47   

Quote (CeilingCat @ June 18 2018,18:43)
john_a_designer's adding his bit of Tard to the thread:    
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11 john_a_designerJune 15, 2018 at 8:05 pm

In 1976 Bruce Jenner won the Decathlon at the Olympic Games in Montreal. Now he has decided that he is a woman. Is this something he decided recently or is it something “he” knew/ felt/ believed from a very young age? If it’s the latter then isn’t his gold medal illegitimate? There is no Decathlon for women; only men are allowed to compete. This why the whole transgender rights movement is so dishonest and disingenuous– and so morally bankrupt.

I have to give back my 9th grade Sports Day medal because I *knew* one day I'd be an adult.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,00:03   

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bornagain77 June 18, 2018 at 8:59 pm

Mr. Arrington per Allan Keith’s post at 14.

I ask that Allan Keith be removed from UD if he continues his trollish behavior towards me. This is the second time he has responded in such a juvenile manner towards one of my posts.

And I will hold my breath until you ban him.

What a whining little jerk.




 
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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.




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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,01:07   

AK’s reply, for the record:
   
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Allan KeithJune 18, 2018 at 10:50 pm

Barry,
   
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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

Nah. I don’t think so. Most of your long threads in the last few years have been due to me, or others like me, disagreeing with the creationist view.
Good luck with batshitcrazy77 and Gordon Mullings, the intellectual brain trust of UD. Hopefully nobody dislocates a shoulder patting themselves on the back. But, they are getting older.????
Bye bye. I have a life to get back to.
But don’t worry. I still have six unused socks.


As an unrelated P.S.: I notice from my sig that it's been two years since Intelligent Design won - congratulations to UD, and especially to my favourite - PaV!

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,08:49   

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AK’s reply, for the record:
     
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Allan KeithJune 18, 2018 at 10:50 pm

Barry,
     
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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

Nah. I don’t think so. Most of your long threads in the last few years have been due to me, or others like me, disagreeing with the creationist view.
Good luck with batshitcrazy77 and Gordon Mullings, the intellectual brain trust of UD. Hopefully nobody dislocates a shoulder patting themselves on the back. But, they are getting older.????
Bye bye. I have a life to get back to.
But don’t worry. I still have six unused socks.


As an unrelated P.S.: I notice from my sig that it's been two years since Intelligent Design won - congratulations to UD, and especially to my favourite - PaV!

Barry:
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UD Editors: Allan is no longer with us. His unused socks will be booted in due course too.

Who could have seen that coming?

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,09:05   

Well, socks do sometimes get lost in the wash...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,10:32   

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bornagain77 June 18, 2018 at 8:59 pm

Mr. Arrington per Allan Keith’s post at 14.

I ask that Allan Keith be removed from UD if he continues his trollish behavior towards me. This is the second time he has responded in such a juvenile manner towards one of my posts.

And I will hold my breath until you ban him.

What a whining little jerk.

Creationist Safe Space.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,10:36   

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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

what a buncha snowflakes.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,11:40   

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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

what a buncha snowflakes.

Now they're free of the distraction, they'll no doubt get back to all that cutting-edge science they were working on.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,12:11   

In that case, let's hope they have band-aids.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,15:28   

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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

what a buncha snowflakes.

Now they're free of the distraction, they'll no doubt get back to all that cutting-edge science they were working on.

yeah those cutting edge scientific theories about how much Jesus hates Abortion.  :p  :p  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,15:50   

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Allan, if you want to continue posting on this site, you will apologize to BA77 for your trollish post at 14.

what a buncha snowflakes.

Now they're free of the distraction, they'll no doubt get back to all that cutting-edge science they were working on.

yeah those cutting edge scientific theories about how much Jesus hates Abortion.  :p  :p  :p

They don't approve of cutting edges in this context, Steve.  You're supposed to use a bottle of vodka and a coathanger.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,16:33   

Now cut that out...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2018,06:53   

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5 johnnyb June 15, 2018 at 4:05 pm

Also related is an old video I did about “Solving Engineering Problems Using Theology”:

[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVeWBM1J-NE

Check it out.

A more accurate title for the video would be: "How to Theologically Interpret What Engineers Are Already Doing in a Secular Manner."

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 20 2018,07:42   

You mean engineers are intelligently designing something? Who'd have thunk it.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2018,04:09   

There are some engineering projects where prayer does seem to be the most effective option.

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