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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2018,13:07   

Differences? Hair. Clothing. Minor change of proportions. Nostril sizes quite different. (Apes need big nostrils because they have big fingers.)

Also, the drawings look like apes rather than monkeys.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: June 14 2018,20:11   

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Oh look, a coloring book page that was already posted in the thread. From these things we can learn much about [how] the human mind works.




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Darwin was a racists – the full title of his Origin of a species was “On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.

I was wondering when this nonsense would be brought up.


derp city


I'm reminded of our own DrGH's article responding to that very criticism posted almost exactly four years ago ...

(yessir, I lurk your blog from time to time)

The lie that Charles Darwin was a racist.

Coincidentally, another article on the topic was posted just yesterday. However this one is intended to rebut a specific claim about Dwarin supporting Francis Galton's view of eugenics and that he also allegedly decried social welfare programs as harmful to mankind.

More "Dwarin was a Racist Bull

( sic :p )


I must say this is an absolutely brilliant way to highlight the stone throwers and their stones:
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Darwin made virtually no mention of humans at all in "The Origin of Species" Further, popular political writing 150 years ago and even later commonly used "race" to mean nationality; we read from those times about the "Irish race" and the "English race." In fact, Darwin considered all human biological variation he observed in his worldwide travels merely due to differences in climate and diet. For example Charles Darwin, wrote in The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (John Murray, London, 1871), "It may be doubted whether any character can be named which is distinctive of a race and is constant."

Note that this is at a time when many Christians argued that non-Europeans were not even human! The American slave owners were assured by the "preAdamites" that God had created the Negro with the "beasts of the field" and that the sons of Adam (of course all Whites) was only exercising his God ordained right to dominate these sub-humans. Christian racists in America even to this day maintain that nonwhites are subhuman, cite biblical support for slavery, and/or allege that Blacks are descended from Ham, the son of Noah who was cursed to be a mere servant.

Darwin's attitude toward Africans was shaped in part by his early friendship with a Negro man he became friends with in Edinburgh. Darwin learned the art of taxidermy from him and whom he mentioned in his autobiography; "By the way, a Negro lived in Edinburgh, who had traveled with Waterton and gained his livelihood by stuffing birds, which he did excellently; he gave me lessons for payment, and I used often to sit with him, for he was a very pleasant and intelligent man." -- Charles Darwin, Autobiography of Charles Darwin 1809-1882 (restored edition)(1958), Nora Barlow editor, p.51. Darwin also mentioned this in his 1871 book, “The Descent of Man;”

Continue reading at:

stonesnbones.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-lie-that-charles-dartwin-was-racist.html


I recommend that this article be sent to both the DI and UD. If they refuse then you have my blessing to use social media to scream your brains out about "CENSORSHIP!!!!" by a phony scientific organization that does not even allow what their stoning victims actually said to be disclosed. There is of course the danger that Dr.GH actually gets published by the misinformation mill, then made an honorary fellow. But I think it's worth the risk.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2018,18:45   

From: uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/correcting-misinformation-about-id-yet-another-irresponsible-critic-in-the-biologos---/
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To start, let’s focus on this statement:

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By publishing this book the Discovery Institute surrendered all claim to being scientific


And there is the first error.  Discovery did not publish the book in question.


Representatives ("fellows") of scientific organizations normally "publish" their work in peer reviewed science journals like Nature, PNAS, Science, PLOS, and more recently forums where peers in a given area of science together work 24/7 on models to explain how something like "intelligence" works.

What the representatives of the Discovery Institute chose to do is feed the general public mixed messages that go from promises of not wanting ID taught in public schools to "Teach the controversy!" crusades that demand politicians do so. The story keeps changing. Constantly saying one thing then doing another is indicative of compulsive liars, not a scientific organization that must maintain a consistent message and provide a testable model.

The DI network is getting into deeper trouble by trying to rationalize their way out of all the trouble that they already got themselves into. In this case there is denial of the fact that what has been published by the organization's "ID theorists" to support their "scientific theory" is religious philosophy based political rhetoric, not a scientific model or theory.

What their "fellows" have (anywhere) published for "theory" helps show why it's true that the Discovery Institute surrendered all claim to being scientific. Excuses like their organization did not always publish their results through their in-house publishing agency are sadly comical. Their willingness to start a bloody holy-war over their religious issue is psychopathic extremism that's way too dangerous for me to find any humor in. That message may serve doomsday cult leaders, but it certainly does not serve those who became their first targets to shoot at when their cleansing the world of "Materialists" begins.

I cannot change what the Discovery Institute did to itself. That's for the "fellows" in the spotlights to reconcile. I can only help show what the organization should have instead done.

And likewise: If there are any AE readers who also have posting privileges on UD (I was stripped of mine by UD management), [then] they are free to post a link to this article in reply to eddieunmuzzled’s comment.  And eddieunmuzzled is of course welcome to reply here to my comments, if he [then] thinks I have in any way misrepresented him or failed to deal with his arguments.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,10:43   

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...peers in a given area of science together work 24/7 on models to explain how something like "intelligence" works.

Please refrain from posting here until you learn how to use adverbs. TIA

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,11:11   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,12:50   

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Please refrain from posting here until you learn how to use adverbs.


And nouns and adjectives and verbs and ... Oh, to hell with it! just learn English grammar, sentence structure and English.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,19:08   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2018,21:12   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

Yet more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,05:14   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

Yet more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

I don't plan on creating any more children, but at least I'm still fertile. And none of us ever know when the next religious war that kills off almost the entire male population will again happen. Therefore at least for myself I must keep my options open, in case I'm ever needed to help repopulate the planet.

Natural selection is still working in my favor.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,12:10   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

Yet more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

I don't plan on creating any more children, but at least I'm still fertile. And none of us ever know when the next religious war that kills off almost the entire male population will again happen. Therefore at least for myself I must keep my options open, in case I'm ever needed to help repopulate the planet.

Natural selection is still working in my favor.

Even more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

That would be genetic drift due to a bottleneck event, not natural selection, but in any case that possibility is too discouraging to contemplate with respect to survival of the human species.

However, if you were the only surviving human on Earth, your not-a-theory would at least then pass the general-acceptance test and would only fail at being a theory on the grounds of not having any confirmatory evidence, not being well enough defined, and not making any predictions / not being potentially falsifiable.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,18:40   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

Yet more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

I don't plan on creating any more children, but at least I'm still fertile. And none of us ever know when the next religious war that kills off almost the entire male population will again happen. Therefore at least for myself I must keep my options open, in case I'm ever needed to help repopulate the planet.

Natural selection is still working in my favor.

Even more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

That would be genetic drift due to a bottleneck event, not natural selection, but in any case that possibility is too discouraging to contemplate with respect to survival of the human species.

Are you certain that there are absolutely no selective pressures working against guys like these who are in a hurry to die in a holy war?


www.thirdway.org/infographic/terrorist-leaders-taken-out-under-obama

 
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However, if you were the only surviving human on Earth, your not-a-theory would at least then pass the general-acceptance test and would only fail at being a theory on the grounds of not having any confirmatory evidence, not being well enough defined, and not making any predictions / not being potentially falsifiable.


Well then I require "confirmatory evidence" that there are absolutely no selection pressures for or against genetic variations that are easily drawn to deserts to shake their guns and knives in the air while daring a coalition of armies to blast them to bits with their guided missiles.

I will also need to know how to "falsify" your confirmatory evidence, to my satisfaction. It better be good, very very good.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,21:50   

QED, again.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 19 2018,22:17   

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The only reason Gary is here is for attention.

He mistakes criticism for stroking.

I view Gary's activities here as stream-of-consciousness talk therapy. Playing scientist seems to give him some relief from his mental issues. Which is fine by me, he's not hurting anyone.

Inquiring minds might rather want to know what drives a person such as yourself to struggle this hard to become an alpha male of a forum like this one.

Natural selection must somehow be working against you.

Yet more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

I don't plan on creating any more children, but at least I'm still fertile. And none of us ever know when the next religious war that kills off almost the entire male population will again happen. Therefore at least for myself I must keep my options open, in case I'm ever needed to help repopulate the planet.

Natural selection is still working in my favor.

Even more evidence that Gary doesn't know what natural selection is.

That would be genetic drift due to a bottleneck event, not natural selection, but in any case that possibility is too discouraging to contemplate with respect to survival of the human species.

Are you certain that there are absolutely no selective pressures working against guys like these who are in a hurry to die in a holy war?


www.thirdway.org/infographic/terrorist-leaders-taken-out-under-obama

       
Quote (N.Wells @ June 19 2018,12:10)
However, if you were the only surviving human on Earth, your not-a-theory would at least then pass the general-acceptance test and would only fail at being a theory on the grounds of not having any confirmatory evidence, not being well enough defined, and not making any predictions / not being potentially falsifiable.


Well then I require "confirmatory evidence" that there are absolutely no selection pressures for or against genetic variations that are easily drawn to deserts to shake their guns and knives in the air while daring a coalition of armies to blast them to bits with their guided missiles.

I will also need to know how to "falsify" your confirmatory evidence, to my satisfaction. It better be good, very very good.

Christ on a stick, Gary, how many times do you want to demonstrate that you are clueless about evolutionary biology?

Note first that there is very little similarity between 45 terrorists being assassinated and a "religious war that kills of nearly all the male population", so you are switching problems and moving goalposts.


Natural selection, by definition, encompasses only change in genetic frequencies that can be attributed to benefits or dasadvantages due to inheritable variations.  When survival and reproduction are random luck of the draw, by definition that's not natural selection at work.  Everything else is, very broadly, genetic drift.  Someone happening to avoid being killed in a war of mass destruction likely survived due to luck, such as avoiding being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Now, if there's a genetic component to why that person survived (e.g. natural immunity to a released artificial pathogen), then we can start talking natural selection, but you initially posited a war that killed off nearly every male, which suggests luck, and id you can't show a genetic component to survival rates then you've disproven natural selection as an agent in that instance.

Now, if we switch to assassination of religious extremists, then that could be natural selection, if you can demonstrate a genetic component to becoming a militant religious extremist.  Maybe there is, or it could all be cultural.  To the extent that people become terrorists due to culture and their upbringing and the circumstances of their life, that's not natural selection, even if they are being culled from the population.

Moslems not raised in Islamic countries are almost never terrorists (neither are people raised in Islamic countries for that matter).  There are 3.3 million Muslims in the US, and we've had 17 notable Islamic terrorist attacks, with the majority of assailants being foreign-born.  How many of them had terrorist parents? The few that do become terrorists are sufficiently notorious anomalies that their motivations get analyzed very thoroughly, and in all cases investigators end up pointing to specific events or circumstances or associates that radicalized them.  I am well aware that Trump is trying to paint every Muslim as a potential terrorist, but since when have the FBI and the CIA come forward and said "the reason he became a terrorist is because he inherited terrorist genes"?  Not even Trump would be satisfied with such an obviously fallacious explanation.  How many American terrorists have had terrorist parents.  Education as a terrorist might or might not come from the parents, but terrorist genes would have to come from the parents.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2018,07:23   

I have been honored:

discourse.numenta.org/t/read-this-first/384#examples-of-high-quality-posts
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Examples of High Quality Posts
Here are some examples of well-constructed topics:


HTM Columns into Hexagonal Grids!
Oscillatory “Thousand Brains” Mind's Eye For HTM?
Basic Spatial Pooler Questions


Now I have to get back to my day job. Maybe this weekend I'll have time to get some of my science work accomplished.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2018,07:42   

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Maybe this weekend I'll have time to get some of my science work accomplished.

That would be a first.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2018,19:17   

Due to the lack of work for the machinery: the large printing press I once had access to was sold to a printing company in Mexico. I'm no longer able mass produce large volumes of books or booklets.

Along with all I have to do to support myself: keeping up with the latest science papers while developing an original model is too overwhelming. I'm sorry for not being able to do everything on my own.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2018,19:44   

Typo. It was another long hard day at my day job and watching the 40 inch two color being dismantled made it especially depressing. I'm just going to go to bed and try to stop thinking about all the bad things happening right now.

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Due to the lack of work for the machinery: the large printing press I once had access to was sold to a printing company in Mexico. I'm no longer able to mass produce large volumes of books or booklets.


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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2018,00:57   

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Now I have to get back to my day job. Maybe this weekend I'll have time to get some of my science work accomplished


Sorry, Gaulin, but "accomplished" is NOT a synonym for "started".

And your bullshit so far is a long, long way from "accomplished".

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2018,08:20   

In less than two weeks the tracksite is expected to be busy until the end of July, for the most major scientific "excavation" ever. I have been busy preparing for that and other things.

And we can play Jesus Jones to this one:
 
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Scientists have proposed numerous possible roles for brain waves. A leading hypothesis holds that synchronous oscillations serve to “bind” information in different locations together as pertaining to the same “thing,” such as different features of a visual object (shape, color, movement, etcetera). A related idea is they facilitate the transfer of information among regions. But such hypotheses require brain waves to be synchronous, producing “standing” waves (analogous to two people swinging a jump rope up and down) rather than traveling waves (as in a crowd doing “the wave” at a sports event).

www.scientificamerican.com/article/traveling-brain-waves-may-be-critical-for-cognition

Also, here's my new neuroscience title:

 
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Definition of cadre
1 : a nucleus or core group especially of trained personnel able to assume control and to train others; broadly : a group of people having some unifying relationship a cadre of lawyers a cadre of technicians
2 : a cell of indoctrinated leaders active in promoting the interests of a revolutionary party
3 : a member of a cadre
4 : frame, framework
… the current specialisms and cadres of our university curricula … —H. M. McLuhan
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cadre

Did I get lucky or what?

The Numenta forum is now discussing modeling of microglia cells and other things that have never been modeled before. Interesting discussions I'm (when possible) active in are:

discourse.numenta.org/u/gary_gaulin/activity

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2018,12:15   

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Did I get lucky or what?

The Numenta forum is now discussing modeling of microglia cells and other things that have never been modeled before. Interesting discussions I'm (when possible) active in are:

discourse.numenta.org/u/gary_gaulin/activity


The answer is "or what.

Nothing, repeat nothing in that forum has anything at all to do with your "theory" or "model". You are still just plagiarising the work of people who know far more than you about neural networks.

You are like the little kid running after the baseball star to tell him how to bat.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2018,07:54   

In a Reddit Ask-Science Discussion I found this (checks out to be accurate) neuroscience related information on "faith healing" that might make a good party trick, or psychology science paper:

   
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Not like, with a car or anything; I'd noticed that every person he touched dropped to the ground in a very dramatic fashion. He explained the key was pushing a person off-balance. He described his method of placing a hand on the individual's lower back while using the other hand to push their head ever so slightly. Eventually they'd fall, but they wouldn't necessarily connect their losing a fight with gravity to you tripping them in slow motion.


The rationalization:

   
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"It's OK if we have to fake it a little bit," my mentor told me once, "because people need to see the power of God, and it's OK if we have to fudge things to make that happen."


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