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|Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 02 2007,13:48)|
|Dave you quoted Miller refering to what Behe said:|
Professor Behe wrote that not only were there no natural explanations for the immune system at the time, but that natural explanations were impossible regarding its origin. (P-647 at 139; 2:26-27 (Miller))
I've come to the point where I no longer take at face value everything that Miller writes or says. I have caught him relaying so many inaccurate statements that it's very hard to take him seriously without doing indepth research to be sure he is quoting or relaying information accurately.
Are those page numbers from one of Behe's books where he makes this statement, or are those the page numbers from Miller's book where he makes this statement about Behe?
It is difficult to believe that Behe would say "...natural explanations were impossible regarding its origin". I'm thinking there is more to this paraphrasing from Miller that is vital to the conversation.
|So those are the goalposts. Behe wrote something in 1996, and reiterated it on the stand in 2005, to wit, "There are no natural explanations for the evolution of the immune system; it is irreducibly complex."|
That would be a honest statement. There are no known natural "explanations" for the evolution of the immune system, there is *speculation*, *assumption*, *inference*, yada, yada, yada.
I'd also like to know where you pulled this particular quote from as well because I can't imagine that Behe would say "it IS" IC. He's usually pretty carefuly about stating his speculation that something is IC rather than implying absolutes. But, it could very well be that him made a slip somewhere...courtrooms are stressful places.
Why not crack open your copy of Darwin's black box and have a look?
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand