Louis
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| Quote (kevinmillerxi @ Jan. 17 2009,21:00) | Doc Bill:
You're right, there's a lot of character being revealed in this thread--yours included. But you do raise an interesting question: Why do I keep coming back here? I was asking myself the same thing last night. I guess it comes down to three things:
1) Plain, old curiosity. I don't know you people, so I'm not overly concerned with what you think about me or Expelled (I have my own thoughts on both subjects), but I'm always open to criticism (and some of what I've read here is certainly valid), and frankly, I'm always curious to hear what some of you will come up with next.
2) I love a challenge, and a few of you definitely provide that.
3) Something that really irked me during the time I worked on Expelled was the fact that people who occupied the various sides of this debate were more interested in hunkering down in their chosen corner and talking ABOUT the people who disagreed with them rather than actually trying to engage the other side(s). I identified this thread as one of those places where people were hunkering down, so I thought I'd crash the party. I realize that's never going to get me voted Mr. Popularity, but at least it gives me the satisfaction of knowing I'm not one of those people.
That said, there's only so many times we can go around the same Mulberry bush. So perhaps it's time I brought my sojourn here to an end. All in favor? |
Kevvo,
I for one am not in favour of your departure if you have matters of substance to discuss.
Despite your apparent delusions to the contrary, hunkering down over a chosen corner is demonstrably hardly anything I'm interested in (see my chosen career: scientist, as opposed to someone who shits out delusional and inaccurate propaganda movies and thus aids liars). To be exceedingly blunt I'd love to credit you and IDCists the same benefit of the doubt, but to be even more blunt your own behaviour proves that you simply aren't interested. (Hello! Entire movie comparing working scientists to Nazis!) So your patronising (and erroneous) comments re: this thread are just an obnoxious parting barb.
I LOVE it when people like yourself try to pull the reasonable card, it's so blissfully self unaware. Look again at the comment you made that elicited my first reply. Look at your abject misunderstanding of the points made in my reply and my less than sympathetic elaboration of them. The bug up your arse is not that I/we are "hunkered down over a chosen corner" but that we have seen through the sham that IDC is, and through the surrounding shams that this manufactured "controversy" entails. You don't like that so you blame the messengers.
If there truly were a genuine controversy IDCIsts would have some data, some hard and fast meaningful research to argue with. They demonstrably don't. Most of their schtick is warmed over creationism, and the bits that aren't are merely wrong.
So cut the bullshit, cut the delusion that you are some insightful genius pricking the pompous comfort of some spurious party by gate crashing. You have yet to offer ANYTHING of substance. You instead choose to slander and libel working scientists who actually know what they are talking about in your wanton ignorance of the subject at hand.
Don't like that? Think it's a character assasination? Wrong, Kevvo. It's a simple matter of demonstrable fact. It might not be polite to (for example) tell a fat person that they are fat. But if said fat person attempts to model teeny tiny swimwear they cannot fit into, then at some point for their own good a quiet mention of their obesity needs to be made. When said fat person tries to have it declared nationwide that they are slimmer than Kate Moss, have this taught as fact in school science classes, and then complains that anyone who (however delicately) points out their obesity is ideologically akin to the group of people responsible for the greatest genocidal tragedy in recorded human history, then don't be surprised if a few people break out the (intellectual and metaphorical) baseball bats and teach Mr Fatty a lesson. Your Emperor is naked, Kevvo. Don't blame us kids for pointing that out.
That said, I'll repeat: stay and offer something of substance and thus at least attempt an adult conversation, or continue whining, lying and defending the indefensible and thus be mocked unrelentingly. The choice, as ever, is yours and ONLY yours.
Louis
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Bye.
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