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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,07:24   

For the most part, creationists fall into two camps. Slightly daffy Old Earth Creationists (Dembski, Behe) and batshit crazy Young Earth Creationists (Salvador, AFDave). An exception to the rule is Paul Nelson, a YEC who can actually string two coherent sentences together (one of them may be a lie, but that's beside the point). I don't care how Salvador and AFDave justify their beliefs, they're idiots. But Paul Nelson is not as dumb as they are. I'd like to know how he justifies being a YEC despite all the evidence. I haven't had much luck finding where he defends this. Can anyone point me to where he explains how he can be a YEC?

   
Ichthyic



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,09:03   

I think you'll have to wait until he publishes that "thesis" he's been promising for what, ten years now?

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jeannot



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,10:34   

Who was the YEC who build his ID hypothesis on good and bad angels?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,12:34   

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But Paul Nelson is not as dumb as they are. I'd like to know how he justifies being a YEC despite all the evidence.
It's called being very religious. His grandfather was also a famous YEC so that can't have helped.

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Can anyone point me to where he explains how he can be a YEC?
He doesn't talk about it much, he mostly concentrates on attacking naturalism.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,12:44   

Nelson said he'd mail me a print copy of some book chapter he wrote about YEC, but I'm trying to find some easy digital info.

   
Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: May 31 2006,13:00   

He wrote an essay for this book. I don't think he's written anything on the net about it.

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,07:40   

HAPPY PAUL NELSON DAY!

In honor of this, the 5th year aniversary of Paul Nelson's "I'll get back top you with evidence tomorrow",

PZ and John Lynch at SciBlogs have posted about what else we can do - Ask For Evidence and How Do You Know That?

Well Paul?  We're waiting...

PZ Waiting For Paul

Happy Paul Nelson Day - With Picture

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,08:10   

Happy Paul Nelson day to all!

may your day be full of religious crap and nonsense! I for one dig that a lot!

Tard, like Hope...

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,09:56   

So, here's a guy, Nelson, who has studied evolution for decades.  He even co-authored a book called Exploring Evolution (of all things!)

Some years ago he was being interviewed and the interviewer asked something like "What would it take you, Paul, to be convinced that the theory of evolution is correct."

Paul replied that he had a list of seven or nine things that if demonstrated would convince him.

Excitedly, the interviewer asked, "What are they?"

And, amazingly, Paul replied that he left the list in his hotel room.  OK, well, since he's studied this for decades and written a book on the subject couldn't he remember one or two of the points.

Nope.  "Ah forgits mah list and haz no mammaries uv it."

What is it, pathetic or pathological?

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,11:07   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 07 2009,07:56)
Paul replied that he had a list of seven or nine things that if demonstrated would convince him.

Excitedly, the interviewer asked, "What are they?"

And, amazingly, Paul replied that he left the list in his hotel room.  OK, well, since he's studied this for decades and written a book on the subject couldn't he remember one or two of the points.

1.  God appears to him in a vision and tells him that evolution is true.

2.  Paleontologists find fossilised remains of every single organism which ever lived, and molecular biologists determine precise step-by-step evolutionary pathways for every biochemical and anatomical system.

3.  Behe sees "Evolution is true.  Signed: God"  inscribed on a bacterial flagellum.

4.  The Rapture occurs.  Ken Miller is taken up.  Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5.  In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6.  Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy.  The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7.  Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found.  Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,11:53   

Quote (JohnW @ April 07 2009,11:07)
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 07 2009,07:56)
Paul replied that he had a list of seven or nine things that if demonstrated would convince him.

Excitedly, the interviewer asked, "What are they?"

And, amazingly, Paul replied that he left the list in his hotel room.  OK, well, since he's studied this for decades and written a book on the subject couldn't he remember one or two of the points.

1.  God appears to him in a vision and tells him that evolution is true.

2.  Paleontologists find fossilised remains of every single organism which ever lived, and molecular biologists determine precise step-by-step evolutionary pathways for every biochemical and anatomical system.

3.  Behe sees "Evolution is true.  Signed: God"  inscribed on a bacterial flagellum.

4.  The Rapture occurs.  Ken Miller is taken up.  Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5.  In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6.  Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy.  The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7.  Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found.  Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

roflmao that's great.  and not, i suspect, far from the truth.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,12:13   

Quote (JohnW @ April 07 2009,11:07)
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 07 2009,07:56)
Paul replied that he had a list of seven or nine things that if demonstrated would convince him.

Excitedly, the interviewer asked, "What are they?"

And, amazingly, Paul replied that he left the list in his hotel room.  OK, well, since he's studied this for decades and written a book on the subject couldn't he remember one or two of the points.

1.  God appears to him in a vision and tells him that evolution is true.

2.  Paleontologists find fossilised remains of every single organism which ever lived, and molecular biologists determine precise step-by-step evolutionary pathways for every biochemical and anatomical system.

3.  Behe sees "Evolution is true.  Signed: God"  inscribed on a bacterial flagellum.

4.  The Rapture occurs.  Ken Miller is taken up.  Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5.  In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6.  Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy.  The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7.  Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found.  Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

8.  When Hell freezes over.

9.  Immediately after Dembski wins a Nobel Prize, and Denyse a Pullitzer.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,12:15   

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9.  Immediately after Dembski wins a Nobel Prize, and Denyse a Pullitzer.


I don't want to live in that universe.

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Shirley Knott



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,13:28   

Don't worry, you don't.

no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott

  
silverspoon



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2009,16:26   

Paul can’t be bothered with providing a detailed explanation for ontogenetic depth. He’s too busy fighting the good fight against presenting the reptile to mammal transition illustrations without it being mentioned they are different sizes. He probably thinks house cats & lions can’t be related because their size difference is so great.

Happy coming out of obscurity day Paul. You’ll be as obscure tomorrow as you were yesterday.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2009,10:05   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ April 07 2009,19:53)
Quote (JohnW @ April 07 2009,11:07)
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 07 2009,07:56)
Paul replied that he had a list of seven or nine things that if demonstrated would convince him.

Excitedly, the interviewer asked, "What are they?"

And, amazingly, Paul replied that he left the list in his hotel room.  OK, well, since he's studied this for decades and written a book on the subject couldn't he remember one or two of the points.

1.  God appears to him in a vision and tells him that evolution is true.

2.  Paleontologists find fossilised remains of every single organism which ever lived, and molecular biologists determine precise step-by-step evolutionary pathways for every biochemical and anatomical system.

3.  Behe sees "Evolution is true.  Signed: God"  inscribed on a bacterial flagellum.

4.  The Rapture occurs.  Ken Miller is taken up.  Dembski, Nelson and Wells are Left Behind.

5.  In an elegantly argued, beautifully crafted article, Denyse O'Leary convinces him of the error of his ways.

6.  Uncommon Descent introduces a grown-up moderation policy.  The case for creationism goes down in flames in a few hours.

7.  Darwin's time machine, which he used to go back to the fifteenth century and drive the Jews out Spain, is found.  Nelson uses it to go back to the Cambrian, and learns that the explosion happened without divine guidance.

roflmao that's great.  and not, i suspect, far from the truth.

How about

111one!!: Dave Tard discovers cancer cure for dogs, commits blogo-side and retires to mushroom ranch.

Tw12: Dembski wakes up in parallel universe and finds a Darwinist "illegal immigrant" is running USA, walks out of the DI and slouches back to sunday school.

3teen: Denze checks into convent for tard tranzies and confirms virginity in English.

!4: Berlinski discovers limit and re-enters singular person.

ONE5: Luskin ...meh

SexQueen: BarryA declares speech "not free" appreciating  tard-coinage only currency acceptable.

SexQueen plus !: Gonzo Jamaican weasel and his trusty sidekick give themselves then each other blowjobs in puplick on UD latching new record for weasels.

SexQueen double plus one: Home run for science in Texas, extra points for DI screwing supporters.

19: Sal's second comming at UD.

20: Creationist Tard enters lexicon.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2009,11:55   

I'm all for #20!

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Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 21 2010,08:17   

Just to make it clear, what I had in mind was Paul Nelson.

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Daevans



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2010,05:31   

Quote (BWE @ Feb. 23 2010,05:24)
jon, I like the cut of your jib but you are just here to whine. Can you at least take a time out at being mad at other people because they don't want to hear your ideas any more?

Try to be decent for a day or 2 and see haw it is. Y'now, baby steps, right?

That is wonderful. I guess anyone who denies your failed hypothesis will be accused of being Professor Davison. The problem is staring you right in your eyes. The inability to accept the evidence. Hate it as much as you like but creative evolution is a phenomenon of the distant past and, like ontogeny, was always emergent and autoregulated with little reference to the environment.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2010,08:18   

OK, this is entertaining, but I think it is time to give it its own thread, unless people want to get back to Paul Nelson's claims as a topic.

ETA: I've left the DAEvans off-topic comment just above here since I managed to delete the copy of it in the new thread.

Edited by Wesley R. Elsberry on Feb. 23 2010,13:31

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2010,11:16   

I agree Wes, I suggest pruning.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2010,12:35   

I used the "split topic" script and got a new topic established for the discussion that is off-topic here. I'll be deleting the posts from this thread that are now duplicated or which continue with the off-topic discussion here.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 06 2010,23:01   

Happy Paul Nelson Day!

Here's a blast from the past:

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Paul A. Nelson | March 29, 2004 6:08 AM

Quick note – I’m drafting an omnibus reply (to points raised here and in Shalizi’s commentary), with title and epigraph from a Rolling Stones song. I’ll post it tomorrow.


That was the Paul Nelson promising a reply to questions about the genetics of some guy named Otto.

Basically, Paul said, "Take my wife.  Please!" and promised to have better material in the morning, er, after the weekend, rather, in a couple of weeks or years or so.

Yesterday Paul published the latest and greatest on Evo Whine and Dyne amounting to the following:

Warning!  New material follows from Paul Nelson -

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Take my wife.  Please!


Yes, that's it after six years.  I think Paul's after Dembski's record of having done nothing in 10 years or maybe he's going for the gold standard of Behe and 25 years.

Go, Paul, go!  We're all pulling for you, although so far you've done a great job of pulling it yourself.

  
MichaelJ



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,02:25   

Is it Happy Paul Nelson day or Merry Paul Nelson day?

  
Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,05:41   

Quote (MichaelJ @ April 07 2010,03:25)
Is it Happy Paul Nelson day or Merry Paul Nelson day?

Nelson's Greetings!

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,08:02   

Even The REAL Nelson laughs at Paul Nelson!




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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,11:49   

Quote (Wolfhound @ April 07 2010,03:41)
Quote (MichaelJ @ April 07 2010,03:25)
Is it Happy Paul Nelson day or Merry Paul Nelson day?

Nelson's Greetings!

Io Nelsonalia!

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,13:00   

As somebody once said (or perhaps bellowed?) (more or less), "one of these days, Dr. Nelson. One of these days...".

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,18:45   

Coffee!

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2010,20:25   

Paul Nelson sez:

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Like most ID theorists with a background in evolutionary theory, I’m as much — probably more, in fact, given the embryonic state of ID theory — a student of evolution.


John McCain sez:

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I am not a maverick.  I've never been a maverick.


Both statements are so mind-numbingly, transparently stupid attempts to rewrite history that you'd think they were written by Casey Luskin!

Pay attention, TP.  If you want to be a True Bullshit artist you have no better mentor than our Paul.

Congratulations, Paul, you have certainly piled it higher and deeper!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2010,13:05   

He's right, though - all the ID "theory" is just evolutionary "theory". Not very good, but still evolution rather than ID.

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2010,18:01   

Like an inverse-whale, rising to the surface to fart, our favorite pudgy toy, Paul Nelson, has been sighted.

Over at Evo Whine and Snooze, our Nelson poots forth the following:

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One could run an entire graduate philosophy of science seminar, exploring the many implications of Clarke's Third Law. In fact, I may do that some day soon.


"I may do that some day soon."

How many times have we heard that Nelson old fruit, how many?

I may write my monograph.  I may write a book.  I may do this.  I may do that.

Or, I may just sink back into the primordial ooze and take a nap.  More like it, I suspect.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 31 2010,18:28   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Aug. 31 2010,16:01)
Like an inverse-whale, rising to the surface to fart, our favorite pudgy toy, Paul Nelson, has been sighted.

(snip)

I may write my monograph.  I may write a book.  I may do this.  I may do that.

Or, I may just sink back into the primordial ooze and take a nap.  More like it, I suspect.

?? Paul Nelson is a closet utod???

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2010,01:11   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Aug. 31 2010,16:01)
Like an inverse-whale, rising to the surface to fart, our favorite pudgy toy, Paul Nelson, has been sighted.

Over at Evo Whine and Snooze, our Nelson poots forth the following:

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One could run an entire graduate philosophy of science seminar, exploring the many implications of Clarke's Third Law. In fact, I may do that some day soon.


"I may do that some day soon."

How many times have we heard that Nelson old fruit, how many?

I may write my monograph.  I may write a book.  I may do this.  I may do that.

Or, I may just sink back into the primordial ooze and take a nap.  More like it, I suspect.

Just this past April Paul was describing "version 1.0" of his "ontogenetic depth" theory as "utterly inadequate" and promising a series of articles on his new, improved "OD 2.0".

Nary an article appeared.

Jesus,  Paul.

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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 01 2010,06:31   

I promise never to mention it again but since the subject has been raised:

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"I may do that some day soon."

How many times have we heard that Nelson old fruit, how many?

I may write my monograph.  I may write a book.  I may do this.  I may do that.


That's nothing compared to what I might have done but never did and never will do.

Hi there, Nelson: I believe our paths on the web may have crossed sometime long ago. Seems you are still stuck in the same groove.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2011,06:55   

Happy Paul Nelson Day, everyone!

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2011,08:27   

Thanks Paul!  Thanks to you, I am the very model of efficiencey, and if you manage to keep this up, you'll be late to ID's funeral.

Can you all please join me, and give it up for PAUL NELSON - The FIRST winner of the Golden Slimey Snail Award!

edited for More Slimeyness

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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2011,08:28   

Quote (J-Dog @ April 07 2011,08:27)
Thanks Paul!  Thanks to you, I am the very model of efficiencey, and if you manage to keep this up, you'll be late to ID's funeral.

Can you all please join me, and give it up for PAUL NELSON - The FIRST winner of the Golden Snail Award!

If the past is any indication, we'll be clapping for 6 months just waiting for him to get to the stage.

He came here a few times didn't he?

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 07 2011,11:10   

Happy Paul Nelson Day!

I take it all back.  Paul is definitely not like an inverse-whale that rises to the surface to fart.  A whale would have a brain.

No, Paul is more like a methane/hydrogen sulfide bubble that takes about a year to form on the ocean floor before it rises to the surface with a grand *poot*

Out at Evo Whine and Cheese, the great Nelson writes the following:

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I was supposed to do this a year ago -- well, long before that, too -- but a glacier passed me on the interstate, and then I ran out of gas, got so depressed that I threw my notes into a box, and...oh, never mind. Let's get started.

After the second entry in this series (part II), we'll open up the comments section for your responses. Complete citations and additional reading will also be compiled at the end of part II.

1. Introduction: Why A Biological Distance That's Currently Impossible to Measure, Ontogenetic Depth, Nevertheless Really Matters to Evolutionary Theory


After "currently impossible to measure" I stopped reading.  It was just too painful.

OMFG!  I hate to break the news to you, Paul, but even the totally batshit insane Naziphile, Klinghoffer, writes better stuff than this.

See you next year, Pauly!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2011,09:48   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 07 2011,09:10)
 
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1. Introduction: Why A Biological Distance That's Currently Impossible to Measure, Ontogenetic Depth, Nevertheless Really Matters to Evolutionary Theory

"How far is it to the next rest stop?"

"No idea. I've never actually looked. But it's too far. Even you start walking now, your great-great grandchildren won't make it."

"How do you know?"

"Jesus told me."

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Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 08 2011,14:40   

Ohhhhhh!  They've opened up comments on Pauly's Opus Flatus 2!

Count so far is 4 comments, all creationists, total content zero.

Not bad for seven year's work.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2011,00:00   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 09 2011,05:40)
Ohhhhhh!  They've opened up comments on Pauly's Opus Flatus 2!

Count so far is 4 comments, all creationists, total content zero.

Not bad for seven year's work.

Actually 3 comments. 2 are from Paul Nelson. I wonder how many are being held back.

  
paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: April 09 2011,12:48   

After reading those OD posts, I feel a CSI headache coming on...kinda like when you're trying to see through a thick fog...right before you plow into the back of a white van without tail lights.

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 10 2011,01:00   

I really think that Paul is mentally retarded and that it's tantamount to child abuse to allow him to post his delusional writings.

Who's minding this guy?  Yo, you're slipping on the job!

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2011,13:08   

Poor Arthur Hunt, pity him!  He's trying to teach some basic biology to Paul Nelson.

It's like trying to explain the Theory of Relativity to a mentally retarded person:

Art:  OK, Paul, imagine you're riding a beam of light.

Paul:  Oh, goodie, I like rides.  And bowling.

Art:  Right.  OK, you're riding a beam of light ...

Paul:  Won't I fall off?

Art:  No, Paul, you won't fall off.  So, imagine you're on ...

Paul:  What color is the light, Art, can I have a red light?

Art:  Sure, Paul, any color you want.  OK, so ...

Paul:  I want a blue light, Art!  Blue like Hawaii.  Bowling!

Art:  Great, Paul, just great.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Look, Art, I'm riding it on my belly.  It's a surfboard!

Art:  Whatever, Paul.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Hang ten, Art!  Cowabunga, dude!

Art:  Jesus fucking christ, Paul, can you pay the fuck attention for five fucking minutes?  Is that too damn much to fucking ask?

Paul:  You said bad words, Art.

Art:  Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you fat, stupid moron fuckity fuck fucktard!!!!

Paul:  It's always the same with you atheist materialists.  When you realize you have no argument you resort to uncivil ad hominim insults.  Civility just isn't your strength, I guess.

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2011,13:21   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 15 2011,11:08)
Poor Arthur Hunt, pity him!  He's trying to teach some basic biology to Paul Nelson.

Indian proverb: "Like playing the flute to the water buffalo."

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2011,13:46   

Quote (Doc Bill @ April 15 2011,19:08)
Poor Arthur Hunt, pity him!  He's trying to teach some basic biology to Paul Nelson.

It's like trying to explain the Theory of Relativity to a mentally retarded person:

Art:  OK, Paul, imagine you're riding a beam of light.

Paul:  Oh, goodie, I like rides.  And bowling.

Art:  Right.  OK, you're riding a beam of light ...

Paul:  Won't I fall off?

Art:  No, Paul, you won't fall off.  So, imagine you're on ...

Paul:  What color is the light, Art, can I have a red light?

Art:  Sure, Paul, any color you want.  OK, so ...

Paul:  I want a blue light, Art!  Blue like Hawaii.  Bowling!

Art:  Great, Paul, just great.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Look, Art, I'm riding it on my belly.  It's a surfboard!

Art:  Whatever, Paul.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Hang ten, Art!  Cowabunga, dude!

Art:  Jesus fucking christ, Paul, can you pay the fuck attention for five fucking minutes?  Is that too damn much to fucking ask?

Paul:  You said bad words, Art.

Art:  Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you fat, stupid moron fuckity fuck fucktard!!!!

Paul:  It's always the same with you atheist materialists.  When you realize you have no argument you resort to uncivil ad hominim insults.  Civility just isn't your strength, I guess.

POTW? At least it made me laugh, a lot!

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paragwinn



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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2011,14:29   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ April 15 2011,13:46)
Quote (Doc Bill @ April 15 2011,19:08)
Poor Arthur Hunt, pity him!  He's trying to teach some basic biology to Paul Nelson.

It's like trying to explain the Theory of Relativity to a mentally retarded person:

Art:  OK, Paul, imagine you're riding a beam of light.

Paul:  Oh, goodie, I like rides.  And bowling.

Art:  Right.  OK, you're riding a beam of light ...

Paul:  Won't I fall off?

Art:  No, Paul, you won't fall off.  So, imagine you're on ...

Paul:  What color is the light, Art, can I have a red light?

Art:  Sure, Paul, any color you want.  OK, so ...

Paul:  I want a blue light, Art!  Blue like Hawaii.  Bowling!

Art:  Great, Paul, just great.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Look, Art, I'm riding it on my belly.  It's a surfboard!

Art:  Whatever, Paul.  OK, so you're riding this beam of light and ...

Paul:  Hang ten, Art!  Cowabunga, dude!

Art:  Jesus fucking christ, Paul, can you pay the fuck attention for five fucking minutes?  Is that too damn much to fucking ask?

Paul:  You said bad words, Art.

Art:  Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you fat, stupid moron fuckity fuck fucktard!!!!

Paul:  It's always the same with you atheist materialists.  When you realize you have no argument you resort to uncivil ad hominim insults.  Civility just isn't your strength, I guess.

POTW? At least it made me laugh, a lot!

Seconding!

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All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11
F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2011,15:11   

Thirding... Just another episode of "UD: As The Tard Turns"

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2018,12:51   

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyng....son-day

14th anniversary of Paul Nelson's humiliation.

Edited by stevestory on April 11 2018,13:52

   
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2018,13:11   

Quote (stevestory @ April 11 2018,10:51)
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyng....son-day

14th anniversary of Paul Nelson's humiliation.

Science marches on.  Creationism... not so much.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 11 2018,18:03   

Quote (JohnW @ April 11 2018,14:11)
Quote (stevestory @ April 11 2018,10:51)
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyng....son-day

14th anniversary of Paul Nelson's humiliation.

Science marches on.  Creationism... not so much.

Intelligent Design Creationism accomplishes today as much as it ever did--> a few blog posts.

   
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