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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:25   

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Re "Global warming is basic chemistry."

Not just that. It also involves reflection of outgoing photons, which isn't quite as elementary as basic chemistry.

There is a lot involved- the Sun is the major factor

Oh fuck Joe's back to over thinking again.

Oh fuck, ke is back to not being able to think, as usual

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:26   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2018,10:58)
Joke:  
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If you take a look at ATP synthase you can see it consists of two major subunits (F0 & F1) that are connected together by an external tether. This tether doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of either subunit but without it no ATP synthase.

Doesn't that mean that the tether has a function? Or are we using Joke definitions again?

Wow, I see that blowTARD still has reading issues.

Each subunit can function without the tether. The tether is required for both subunits to be able to work together

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:27   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:44)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:36)
The architecture and subunit composition of ATP synthase

If you take a look at ATP synthase you can see it consists of two major subunits (F0 & F1) that are connected together by an external tether. This tether doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of either subunit but without it no ATP synthase. The problem for evolution by blind and mindless processes is exacerbated. Not only does it need to produce the two subunits but one has to be embedded in some membrane so that a gradient can be formed. And the other has to to be stably tethered to the membrane the proper distance away. The tether looks like the membrane subunit F0 somehow formed an external docking site the proper length with F1 forming an external mating site.

Again these two different protein subunits, the tether and mate, have nothing to do with the function of the protein complexes they are attached to and tether together. And without them there is no way to get the two working subunits together to produce ATP.

There you have it- A simple external tether that stably holds the major F1 subunit/ rotary motor the proper distance away from its F0 motor force is evidence for the Intelligent Design of ATP synthase. The two major subunits and how it works is just icing on the cake.

You don't have anything to account for ATP synthase and you sure as hell cannot account for the external tether

ATP synthase- just another biological system that evolutionism cannot explain

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:29   

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timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:30   

There isn't a scientific theory of evolution. What are all of those evolutionary biologists doing? They definitely are not finding support for evolutionism.

Testable hypotheses are missing also- no one knows how to test the claim that vision systems evolved by means of natural selection and drift.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:31   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,11:29)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:24)
 
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timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

Your cowardly bluffing is duly noted

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I usually underestimate my abilities

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:33   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,19:30)
There isn't a scientific theory of evolution. What are all of those evolutionary biologists doing? They definitely are not finding support for evolutionism.

Testable hypotheses are missing also- no one knows how to test the claim that vision systems evolved by means of natural selection and drift.

Your personal incredulity is just your opinion Joe nothing more.

Running away Joe?


What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:34   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,19:31)
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Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:51)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,10:50)
     
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:43)
timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

Your cowardly bluffing is duly noted

Show us all how much you know about science Joe.

What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:37   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:31)
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Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:24)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,11:04)
   
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:51)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,10:50)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:43)
timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

Your cowardly bluffing is duly noted

I bet FOX would even make your ID-Creationism story into a mini-series!  Jim Carrey could play Dembski, Verne Troyer could play Behe.    They could get Bill O'Reilly to put on 150 lbs and play you.   :D

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,11:41   

Quote (k.e.. @ April 17 2018,12:33)
Running away Joe?


What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

Displacement?

   
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,12:06   

Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,19:41)
Quote (k.e.. @ April 17 2018,12:33)
Running away Joe?


What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

Displacement?

Suspended in disbelief .

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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:36   

Quote (k.e.. @ April 17 2018,11:34)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,19:31)
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Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,10:50)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:43)
timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

Your cowardly bluffing is duly noted

Show us all how much you know about science Joe.

What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

But, does dry ice float on its liquid form? Or does it sink?

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:49   

Quote (k.e.. @ April 17 2018,11:33)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,19:30)
There isn't a scientific theory of evolution. What are all of those evolutionary biologists doing? They definitely are not finding support for evolutionism.

Testable hypotheses are missing also- no one knows how to test the claim that vision systems evolved by means of natural selection and drift.

Your personal incredulity is just your opinion Joe nothing more.

Running away Joe?


What's the difference between ICE and DRY ICE?

You calling it my personal incredulity is meaningless. You sure as hell cannot refute what i posted.

You lose.

And I answered your question.

Ice is frozen h2o and dry ice is frozen co2

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simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:50   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,11:37)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:31)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,11:29)
 
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:24)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,11:04)
     
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:51)
       
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,10:50)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:43)
timmy doesn't know what science is

Joke so predictable with his meltdowns.   :D

The truth is not a meltdown, timmy.

Amazing..

Every evolutionary biologist in the world is wrong.
Every geneticist in the world is wrong.
Every paleontologist in the world is wrong.
Every geologist in the world is wrong.
Every physicist in the world is wrong.
Every climate scientist in the world is wrong.
Every physician and vaccine specialist at the CDC is wrong.

But a chubby uneducated unemployed toaster repairman sitting on his ass in his basement is right about every woo woo anti-science claim.

Truly amazing.  :D

Not one evolutionary biologist can support the claims of evolutionism.

Not one can show that eukaryotes arose from prokaryotes via blind and mindless processes

There are geneticists who disagree with evolutionism

Paleontologists don't know of any mechanism that can produce the transformations required

Geologists cannot say how the earth was formed

Physicists cannot say how the earth was formed

There are climate scientists who disagree with AGW

Medicine doesn't have anything to do with evolutionism

Damn Joke when will you be writing your autobiography?

Doesn't the world need to know about the chubby Joke who showed 95% of everything science knows about the Earth and its history is wrong?   :D

Your cowardly bluffing is duly noted

I bet FOX would even make your ID-Creationism story into a mini-series!  Jim Carrey could play Dembski, Verne Troyer could play Behe.    They could get Bill O'Reilly to put on 150 lbs and play you.   :D

I bet NETFLIX could make a series on your bluffing cowardice.

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simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:52   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,11:27)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:44)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,10:36)
The architecture and subunit composition of ATP synthase

If you take a look at ATP synthase you can see it consists of two major subunits (F0 & F1) that are connected together by an external tether. This tether doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of either subunit but without it no ATP synthase. The problem for evolution by blind and mindless processes is exacerbated. Not only does it need to produce the two subunits but one has to be embedded in some membrane so that a gradient can be formed. And the other has to to be stably tethered to the membrane the proper distance away. The tether looks like the membrane subunit F0 somehow formed an external docking site the proper length with F1 forming an external mating site.

Again these two different protein subunits, the tether and mate, have nothing to do with the function of the protein complexes they are attached to and tether together. And without them there is no way to get the two working subunits together to produce ATP.

There you have it- A simple external tether that stably holds the major F1 subunit/ rotary motor the proper distance away from its F0 motor force is evidence for the Intelligent Design of ATP synthase. The two major subunits and how it works is just icing on the cake.

You don't have anything to account for ATP synthase and you sure as hell cannot account for the external tether

ATP synthase- just another biological system that evolutionism cannot explain

All evoTARDs have is sheer dumb luck to explain it.

That's how little you know about science, ke.

Dry ice? All you have is sheer dumb luck to explain CO2.

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Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:54   

There isn't a scientific theory of evolution. What are all of those evolutionary biologists doing? They definitely are not finding support for evolutionism.

Testable hypotheses are missing also- no one knows how to test the claim that vision systems evolved by means of natural selection and drift.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:55   

Quote (k.e.. @ April 17 2018,11:05)
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Quote (Henry J @ April 17 2018,10:47)
Re "Global warming is basic chemistry."

Not just that. It also involves reflection of outgoing photons, which isn't quite as elementary as basic chemistry.

There is a lot involved- the Sun is the major factor

Oh fuck Joe's back to over thinking again.

Does anyone not think that the Sun is the major factor in the earth's climate?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,13:59   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2018,12:36)
But, does dry ice float on its liquid form? Or does it sink?

Float on melted dry ice, or on water?

Come to think of it, can dry ice melt rather than sublimate? I guess that would depend on pressure and temperature.

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:01   

Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,11:27)
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Re "Global warming is basic chemistry."

Not just that. It also involves reflection of outgoing photons, which isn't quite as elementary as basic chemistry.

There are all kinds of second order effects, but the primary process is

A) Carbon dioxide traps heat
B) We add 38 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere per year.

And records show the earth has gotten consistently hotter since we started that shit.

Which is the simple nut of the matter, but yeah, there are lots of other complications like the absorption of CO2 by the oceans, the albedo of clouds, geological events, changes in humidity and other gases, etc.

Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat. The current atmospheric CO2 is more like a screen with 1" openings bound by 50 gauge wire.

The records show a slight increase- some 1.8 degrees F, since 1880. That is well within the natural variability.

What we don't see is each year being hotter than the one before it even though we are dumping more and more CO2 into the atmosphere. We do see the earth is getting greener and people are prospering in that time.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:08   

Quote (Henry J @ April 17 2018,14:59)
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But, does dry ice float on its liquid form? Or does it sink?

Float on melted dry ice, or on water?

Come to think of it, can dry ice melt rather than sublimate? I guess that would depend on pressure and temperature.



anywhere over 5.1 atm and -56.7C it won't sublimate.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:10   

Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,15:01)
Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat.

Shit, Joe's not even flunking 20th century chemistry here, he's flunking Late-19th century chemistry.

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:11   

Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,14:08)
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Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2018,12:36)
But, does dry ice float on its liquid form? Or does it sink?

Float on melted dry ice, or on water?

Come to think of it, can dry ice melt rather than sublimate? I guess that would depend on pressure and temperature.



anywhere over 5.1 atm and -56.7C it won't sublimate.

There is a triple point in which all 3 states can exist

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:13   

Quote (Henry J @ April 17 2018,13:59)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2018,12:36)
But, does dry ice float on its liquid form? Or does it sink?

Float on melted dry ice, or on water?

Come to think of it, can dry ice melt rather than sublimate? I guess that would depend on pressure and temperature.

CO2 fire extinguishers utilize liquid carbon dioxide, since it's compact as a liquid and, of course, it can flow out.

Glen Davidson

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:14   

Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,14:10)
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,15:01)
Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat.

Shit, Joe's not even flunking 20th century chemistry here, he's flunking Late-19th century chemistry.

Wow, devastating. CO2 does not trap the heat. IR makes it vibrate and unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way such that the vibration sends the re-radiated heat back to earth there isn't any trapping. There isn't even enough in the atmosphere to trap the heat.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

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I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,14:19   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 17 2018,13:30)
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Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,11:27)
   
Quote (Henry J @ April 17 2018,11:47)
Re "Global warming is basic chemistry."

Not just that. It also involves reflection of outgoing photons, which isn't quite as elementary as basic chemistry.

There are all kinds of second order effects, but the primary process is

A) Carbon dioxide traps heat
B) We add 38 billion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere per year.

And records show the earth has gotten consistently hotter since we started that shit.

Which is the simple nut of the matter, but yeah, there are lots of other complications like the absorption of CO2 by the oceans, the albedo of clouds, geological events, changes in humidity and other gases, etc.

We just had a snow storm in April so global warming must be false.

I'll call all the chemistry journals and tell them to pack it in. Right after I call the biology journals and tell them to close up shop because a few poorly-educated creationists post stupidity on blogs.

They probably haven't even heard of Displacement!

 :p

And they are probably not even aware that Frequency = Wavelength. Those idiots.

They are well aware that context matters. Unlike you, idiot

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,15:41   

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Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat.

Shit, Joe's not even flunking 20th century chemistry here, he's flunking Late-19th century chemistry.

Wow, devastating. CO2 does not trap the heat. IR makes it vibrate and unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way such that the vibration sends the re-radiated heat back to earth there isn't any trapping. There isn't even enough in the atmosphere to trap the heat.

Christ but you're a dumbfuck.

 
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Scientists witness carbon dioxide trapping heat in air for first time

Scientists have witnessed carbon dioxide trapping heat in the atmosphere above the United States, showing human-made climate change 'in the wild' for the first time.

A new study in the journal Nature demonstrates in real-time field measurements what scientists already knew from basic physics, lab tests, numerous simulations, temperature records and dozens of other climatic indicators.

They say it confirms the science of climate change and the amount of heat-trapping previously blamed on carbon dioxide




 
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This graph show carbon dioxide’s increasing greenhouse effect at a research facility in Oklahoma. As the atmospheric concentration of CO2 (blue) increased from 2000 to the end of 2010, so did surface radiative forcing due to CO2 (orange), and both quantities have upward trends. This means the Earth absorbed more energy from solar radiation than it emitted as heat back to space. The seasonal fluctuations are caused by plant-based photosynthetic activity


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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,16:02   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,14:14)
   
Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,14:10)
   
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,15:01)
Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat.

Shit, Joe's not even flunking 20th century chemistry here, he's flunking Late-19th century chemistry.

Wow, devastating. CO2 does not trap the heat. IR makes it vibrate and unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way such that the vibration sends the re-radiated heat back to earth there isn't any trapping. There isn't even enough in the atmosphere to trap the heat.

Christ but you're a dumbfuck.

Aren't you glad he's here to lecture us about science?  :p

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,16:06   

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unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way


Pointing the right way!!!!!

:D

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,16:11   

Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,16:02)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ April 17 2018,16:41)
 
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,14:14)
     
Quote (stevestory @ April 17 2018,14:10)
       
Quote (Joe G @ April 17 2018,15:01)
Umm CO2 doesn't trap heat.

Shit, Joe's not even flunking 20th century chemistry here, he's flunking Late-19th century chemistry.

Wow, devastating. CO2 does not trap the heat. IR makes it vibrate and unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way such that the vibration sends the re-radiated heat back to earth there isn't any trapping. There isn't even enough in the atmosphere to trap the heat.

Christ but you're a dumbfuck.

Aren't you glad he's here to lecture us about science?  :p

We need to start a set of "Joke Gallien's Laws" like we used to have "AFDave" Hawkins' Laws.  :)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2018,16:23   

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unless all of the CO2 is pointing the right way


Pointing the right way!!!!!

:D

FSTDT material again.  :D



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