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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2009,14:00   

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009....ii.html

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cshizzle: 10/3/09 11:08 AM:
At the conclusion of this discourse with Luke on why you are a Christian, would you be interested in going into a full blown debate with him about evolution?


No, let someone else take the next crack. I'm really not interested in debating evolution with anyone who doesn't have a PhD in biology. The average individual can't be expected to have any idea what I'm talking about, as we've seen already.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2009,15:55   

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http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009....ii.html

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cshizzle: 10/3/09 11:08 AM:
At the conclusion of this discourse with Luke on why you are a Christian, would you be interested in going into a full blown debate with him about evolution?


No, let someone else take the next crack. I'm really not interested in debating evolution with anyone who doesn't have a PhD in biology. The average individual can't be expected to have any idea what I'm talking about, as we've seen already.

Well, he has part of that right, but not for the reasons he thinks.  I read a bit of the first posting of the letter/exchange with Vox and Luke, and the lack of empathy, humanity, and even basic logical thought among the Voxtards is simply incredible.  At least some of them are just naked in their belief that they are right because they are right.  I'd say it was surprising, but having seen Teddy and his echo chamber or tard, it would take a lot to surprise me about him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2009,21:43   

I spy olegt over there...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,00:35   

Somebody who comments over there should give a response to the fellow saying that "Pasteur was a creationist"...

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Virulence appears in a new light which cannot but be alarming to humanity; unless nature, in her evolution down the ages (an evolution which, as we now know, has been going on for millions, nay, hundreds of millions of years), has finally exhausted all the possibilities of producing virulent or contagious diseases -- which does not seem very likely.


A pretty flexible creationist, it would seem.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,03:53   

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I spy olegt over there...

I'd never seen the crackpot index, but it does nail VD pretty perfectly.  Notice his elegant sidestep at being pwnded -- it's not his theory, just one he subscribes to.  Very lame, but when you're Vox Day, lame is sufficient.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,08:06   

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I spy olegt over there...

I'd never seen the crackpot index, but it does nail VD pretty perfectly.  Notice his elegant sidestep at being pwnded -- it's not his theory, just one he subscribes to.  Very lame, but when you're Vox Day, lame is sufficient.

Crackpots have universal features, so Baez catalogued them.  Teddy is no exception.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,08:44   

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Anybody here ever play Diplomacy?

Now there is an intense game.

Sorry for the late reply RB, but Diplo is one of my fav games. we even had a great session 3 years ago in full period costumes, just for the fun of it. Of course, we still allow spying before round resolutions :D

Definitely a great game of the mind and cunning!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,15:08   

Oleg, love your slapdown!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,18:50   

Quote (olegt @ Oct. 04 2009,14:06)
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Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 03 2009,21:43)
I spy olegt over there...

I'd never seen the crackpot index, but it does nail VD pretty perfectly.  Notice his elegant sidestep at being pwnded -- it's not his theory, just one he subscribes to.  Very lame, but when you're Vox Day, lame is sufficient.

Crackpots have universal features, so Baez catalogued them.  Teddy is no exception.

Oh I agree absolutely. Denialists of all species basically do things the same way. You can substitute the terms "climate change" for "evolution" or "The Holocaust" or "medicine" in denialist screeds depending on whether you are talking to/reading an AGW denier, a creationist, a Holocaust denier or a homeopath. It's the same basic shit sundae with slightly different turd sprinkles.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,18:55   

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Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 03 2009,21:43)
I spy olegt over there...

I'd never seen the crackpot index, but it does nail VD pretty perfectly.  Notice his elegant sidestep at being pwnded -- it's not his theory, just one he subscribes to.  Very lame, but when you're Vox Day, lame is sufficient.

Crackpots have universal features, so Baez catalogued them.  Teddy is no exception.

Oh I agree absolutely. Denialists of all species basically do things the same way. You can substitute the terms "climate change" for "evolution" or "The Holocaust" or "medicine" in denialist screeds depending on whether you are talking to/reading an AGW denier, a creationist, a Holocaust denier or a homeopath. It's the same basic shit sundae with slightly different turd sprinkles.

Louis

So true on the denialists.
Impervious to reality.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,19:09   

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Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 03 2009,21:43)
I spy olegt over there...

I'd never seen the crackpot index, but it does nail VD pretty perfectly.  Notice his elegant sidestep at being pwnded -- it's not his theory, just one he subscribes to.  Very lame, but when you're Vox Day, lame is sufficient.

Crackpots have universal features, so Baez catalogued them.  Teddy is no exception.

Oh I agree absolutely. Denialists of all species basically do things the same way. You can substitute the terms "climate change" for "evolution" or "The Holocaust" or "medicine" in denialist screeds depending on whether you are talking to/reading an AGW denier, a creationist, a Holocaust denier or a homeopath. It's the same basic shit sundae with slightly different turd sprinkles.

Louis

So true on the denialists.
Impervious to reality.

It's an attitude I've never understood. I simply don't get the mentality that runs "I have this idea, I like this idea, I'll compare it as accurately as I can to reality, what do you mean it doesn't match? Reality must be wrong!". It beggars belief.....literally.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,20:53   

Alas, economics was declared off-topic on that thread, presumably to enable people to discuss Satan, the Magi, and other relevant subjects.  I decided to play nice and am staying away from the echo chamber.  It gets boring after a while.  

But I thought that TARD watchers would be amused by the Ted's reaction to a quick comment "calculation? can we see the math?"

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You're kidding, right? You come here to mock, and that's fine. It comes with the territory. But I have no interest in handing over successful models to people whose intention isn't merely to criticize, but denigrate. If you genuinely find my critics to be more perspicacious, then you would be better served by asking for their superior tools.


That's again straight from the Crackpot Index: 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,21:29   

Rich - is that you commenting on this thread (http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=3660)?

I love the strength of the arguments - you had a believer in Plantiga's BS.  There's the guy who thinks that religion exists, and this proves...god?...I'm not sure.  People believe that Kunoiki footpads, and coffee enemas, work.  And that since a belief in gods is old, then atheists (a "new" theory) have to prove that they are wrong, completely ignoring the fact that these religions have yet to prove that they are right in the first place.  I think he's also the evolution denier, but as one of Teddy's drones, I'm sure there is a lot of denialism going on.  Then you have the postmodernist.  Nice collection.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,22:45   

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Rich - is that you commenting on this thread (http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=3660)?

I love the strength of the arguments - you had a believer in Plantiga's BS.  There's the guy who thinks that religion exists, and this proves...god?...I'm not sure.  People believe that Kunoiki footpads, and coffee enemas, work.  And that since a belief in gods is old, then atheists (a "new" theory) have to prove that they are wrong, completely ignoring the fact that these religions have yet to prove that they are right in the first place.  I think he's also the evolution denier, but as one of Teddy's drones, I'm sure there is a lot of denialism going on.  Then you have the postmodernist.  Nice collection.

Aye, that's me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 04 2009,22:51   

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Alas, economics was declared off-topic on that thread, presumably to enable people to discuss Satan, the Magi, and other relevant subjects.  I decided to play nice and am staying away from the echo chamber.  It gets boring after a while.  

But I thought that TARD watchers would be amused by the Ted's reaction to a quick comment "calculation? can we see the math?"

 
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You're kidding, right? You come here to mock, and that's fine. It comes with the territory. But I have no interest in handing over successful models to people whose intention isn't merely to criticize, but denigrate. If you genuinely find my critics to be more perspicacious, then you would be better served by asking for their superior tools.


That's again straight from the Crackpot Index: 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.

I bet the quick commenter is both handsome and not gay at all.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2009,03:20   

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That's again straight from the Crackpot Index: 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.

I once took a college credit class where I was the only person in the room except for a guy who showed up without any preparation at all.  Somehow he thought he would pass anyway.  He spent four hours scribbling odd answers and essays on a math exam.  Crackpot in training.

I think the crackpot is someone who's ambition to be recognized outstrips both their talent and willingness to work.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2009,08:27   

Beale's problem is that he thinks he's a leading light, when in actuality he's an irrelevant crackpot with a handful of like-minded loonies. The classic contrarian, mainstream X must be wrong, and he gloms onto whatever denialism is doing the rounds and promotes it. I agree he's not that bright, (2 standard deviations...!) but he does work hard..at being wrong.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2009,02:51   

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but he does work hard..at being wrong.

I suppose that's true.  He does seem to crank out his fiction and absurd economic stuff, with the absolute sureness that he has a clearer vision than Nobel prize winners.  In terms of genuine creative insight, I've never gotten the impression that he's any brighter than a Mickey Mouse night light.  But he thinks he's a damn genius.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2009,05:48   

My latest comment on VP, soon to be deleted:

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Okay, but


The reason Christianity is rationally justified even though the ontological argument, cosmological argument, teleological argument, the magical resurrection of Jesus, and the existence of evil do not entail the complete truth of Christianity – which, according to 1 Corinthians 13:11, every Christian knows we cannot know – but they still suffice to establish the Bible as the most credible authority regarding that which is unknown.


is still not a sentence. Before embarking on grammatical complexity, better check that you have the brainpower to do it.


This is one of my peeves with Vox Day.  His writing is atrocious.  He apparently thinks that if he constructs a sentence that he personally can't parse, that it's some kind of testament to his intelligence.  Unfortunately grammar is grammar, and if you can't even write a grammatically correct sentence, you're not that smart.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2009,07:39   

You should just roll your username and IP address and have some fun. The resulting paranoia would be great.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 07 2009,12:55   

Vox Tard:

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Yeah, I'm not sure about the linguistic unification thing anymore. I probably had too much of Eco's In Search of the Perfect Language in mind when I wrote that; it wouldn't falsify Christianity so much as some esoteric Renaissance notions of pre-Babel history. As far as the alien recording goes, obviously if we had a video recording which showed there were no Roman crucifixions in Jerusalem from 10 BC to 10 AD, that would falsify Christianity.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2009,07:20   

Thus Spake Beale:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/10/letter-to-vox-day-iii.html

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You may quite reasonably find it annoying that I don't bother to prove the documentary support for what I am saying. What you don't appear to have grasped is that in addition to feeling it is often unnecessary, this is also a form of showing mercy. Those who demand for detailed and conclusive proof from me often find they much preferred it when I was simply telling them that they were ignoramuses, because at least then they could pretend it was merely a matter of my opinion. Just remember that Luke asked for it.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2009,08:31   

Vox's comment posted at 4:44 am is a TARD gem:    
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It boils down to one thing: scientists tend to be very bad at logic. So, they are not a credible authority on anything that relies upon logic rather than science.


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2009,14:56   

tz, on that same thread:
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Which is why Evolutionists don't debate. The science - actual science, not the rituals by people in lab-coats - is NOT on their side. Someone else gave an example above of PZ talking about complexity "just being there". It isn't. They can't explain things like the Burgess Shale and the Cambrian Explosion. Science would say it was seeded. Evolutionists say it just all popped into existence via some unexplained and unidentified magical process.

Wow.
Just Wow.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2009,16:59   

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Wow.
Just Wow.

Why just Wow? Looks like Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow ... to me.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2009,11:47   

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The science - actual science, not the rituals by people in lab-coats


I'm sorry....is there another type of science that I don't now about?

After seeing that quote I literally laughed so hard I hurt myself.  And then I wept.  I wept for humanity, even though there's a little voice inside of me that wants me to believe nobody can be so stupid.

Edit: was that choice nugget from Vox or one of his goons?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2009,17:08   

IQ - YOUR DOIN IT RONG.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/10/occams-razor-is-correct-here.html



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0_o    10/16/09 5:02 PM
"There is an absolute ceiling on his IQ of 130" - Hmm - you can show this mathematically then? You got your knickers in a twist about Lukeprog's arbitrary percentages, care to show him how a 'super-intelligence' gets it's 'absolute ceiling'?


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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2009,18:22   

HAR HAR:

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0_o    10/16/09 6:17 PM



VD: 10/16/09 6:13 PM:
Yes. And no, I'm sure you can work it out for yourself. It's not exactly difficult and all of the necessary information is readily available to you.




You're really not understanding 'IQ as a sampling exercise' are you? Let me hold your hand:

Do people always test to the same score?
If not, why not?
How many questions would you need to ask to know how smart someone is?
Do people with the same IQ get the same questions right?

I await your epiphany.




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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2009,22:46   

I saw Vox's 'Irrational Atheist' book in our library. It surprised me that this drivel would find it's way into a small Australian regional library.
It was right next to "The God Delusion"

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 18 2009,10:21   

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/10/practice-makes-perfect.html

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I'm not a fan of Fox News, but the thing that is so ridiculous about this is that Fox is more balanced - and has been objectively confirmed to be more balanced - than the other cable news networks and the mainstream media in general. Even liberals who doubted this couldn't credibly do so any longer once CNN took it upon itself to fact-check an SNL skit for the crime of being insufficiently reverential.


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