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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:28   

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So who or what designed di-hydrogen monoxide? Walt Disney maybe? (i.e., what does a diagram of an H2O molecule look like)

The Designer of the universe. What else is there? Water just happened to luck into an almost perfect universal solvent?

How many solids are less dense than their liquid form? How many solids could float on their liquid form- in great big chunks?

I am sure the fish are happy that lakes don't freeze from the bottom up.

silicon, gallium, germanium, antimony, bismuth, plutonium, bismuth, acetic acid.

bismuth twice- really?

How many on that list fit the second question and how many are solvents?

 
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How many on that list fit the second question


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry?

 
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and how many are solvents?


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry? (Before Joe tries to play word games, he should note that he didn’t specify they had to be more “universal” solvents than water)

Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?

Pardon the language but, what the fuck?

[Teacher mode] I believe Joe, like many lay people is confusing silicone (the compound) and silicon (the element).  Silicone is, apparently, available is a liquid form, but this is a bit confusing as “silicone” is a name used for a variety of polymers.  We were talking about silicon, which melts (just like ice does) to be a liquid, albeit at 2577 F.  Unlike the various states of water, most substances are given the same name as a solid, liquid, or gas. [/teacher mode]

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:34   

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So who or what designed di-hydrogen monoxide? Walt Disney maybe? (i.e., what does a diagram of an H2O molecule look like)

The Designer of the universe. What else is there? Water just happened to luck into an almost perfect universal solvent?

How many solids are less dense than their liquid form? How many solids could float on their liquid form- in great big chunks?

I am sure the fish are happy that lakes don't freeze from the bottom up.

silicon, gallium, germanium, antimony, bismuth, plutonium, bismuth, acetic acid.

bismuth twice- really?

How many on that list fit the second question and how many are solvents?

   
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How many on that list fit the second question


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry?

   
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and how many are solvents?


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry? (Before Joe tries to play word games, he should note that he didn’t specify they had to be more “universal” solvents than water)

Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?

Pardon the language but, what the fuck?

[Teacher mode] I believe Joe, like many lay people is confusing silicone (the compound) and silicon (the element).  Silicone is, apparently, available is a liquid form, but this is a bit confusing as “silicone” is a name used for a variety of polymers.  We were talking about silicon, which melts (just like ice does) to be a liquid, albeit at 2577 F.  Unlike the various states of water, most substances are given the same name as a solid, liquid, or gas. [/teacher mode]

[joescience]Looking forward to finding out whether liquid silicon is made of silicon.[/joescience]

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:56   

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So who or what designed di-hydrogen monoxide? Walt Disney maybe? (i.e., what does a diagram of an H2O molecule look like)

The Designer of the universe. What else is there? Water just happened to luck into an almost perfect universal solvent?

How many solids are less dense than their liquid form? How many solids could float on their liquid form- in great big chunks?

I am sure the fish are happy that lakes don't freeze from the bottom up.

silicon, gallium, germanium, antimony, bismuth, plutonium, bismuth, acetic acid.

bismuth twice- really?

How many on that list fit the second question and how many are solvents?

   
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How many on that list fit the second question


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry?

   
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and how many are solvents?


All of them.  Anyone want to explain to Joe why his question shows how little he knows about chemistry? (Before Joe tries to play word games, he should note that he didn’t specify they had to be more “universal” solvents than water)

Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?

Pardon the language but, what the fuck?

[Teacher mode] I believe Joe, like many lay people is confusing silicone (the compound) and silicon (the element).  Silicone is, apparently, available is a liquid form, but this is a bit confusing as “silicone” is a name used for a variety of polymers.  We were talking about silicon, which melts (just like ice does) to be a liquid, albeit at 2577 F.  Unlike the various states of water, most substances are given the same name as a solid, liquid, or gas. [/teacher mode]

Fucking GUILTY as charged.

Should never trust the search engine to know what you are really looking for. I fucked up and hit on silicone without realizing what the search engine did.

The only one on the list I knew about was "bismuth". And when checking on bismuth there were the rest.

(I knew acartia just cut and pasted it from yahoo answers (or some reasonable facsimile thereof) so between that and acartia I smell rats)

The list is very, very limited in comparison to the rest of the natural elements and compounds.

That's the point.

With water it really matters that it is less dense as a solid. The fish appreciate it. And so do the ice road truckers.

Water is a universal solvent.

Absent Intelligent Design what do you have to explain that besides sheer dumb luck? And is that what you think is scientific?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,17:58   

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Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:00   

And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:01   

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Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:10   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57)
Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:11   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57)
Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D

I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along.

How special...

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:13   

Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:11)
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Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D

I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along.

How special...

Joke "science"

wavelength = frequency

body = body plan

silicon = silicone

:D   :D   :D

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:16   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57)
Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D

I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along.

How special...

Joke "science"

wavelength = frequency

body = body plan

silicon = silicone

:D   :D   :D

Whatever mr shit = code

mr magic for a mechanism

I see that you still have difficulty following along

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Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:23   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,18:27   

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Water is a universal solvent.

That's why bottles don't exist.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 13 2018,22:59   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,17:57)
Does silicon come in a liquid? Really? Or is it changed, chemically by solvents to become a liquid?


Yup, silicone for her breast implants

Figures the world's most scientifically illiterate YEC dumbass Joke would confuse the element silicon with the synthetic material silicone.   :D

I see that you still have a difficult time trying to follow along.

How special...

Joke "science"

wavelength = frequency

body = body plan

silicon = silicone

:D   :D   :D

Whatever mr shit = code

mr magic for a mechanism

I see that you still have difficulty following along

Ronrey cycle will start soon: much embarrass.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:16   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:18   

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Water is a universal solvent.

That's why bottles don't exist.

water, the universal solvent
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Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients.


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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:22   

Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)
Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00)
And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Scratch that- except for the plutonium bit.

I don't know if all liquids can or cannot be a solvent as I have not tested them all- no one has.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,12:46   

Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)
Quote (Texas Teach @ April 13 2018,18:23)
Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00)
And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,13:11   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ April 14 2018,12:46)
Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,12:16)
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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,18:00)
And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,13:13   

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Defending Intelligent Design theory: Why targets are real targets, probabilities real probabilities, and the Texas Sharp Shooter fallacy does not apply at all.

April 13, 2018 Posted by gpuccio under Intelligent Design


[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/defending-intelligent-design-theory-why-targets-are-real-targets-propabilities-real-probab

ilities-and-the-texas-sharp-shooter-fallacy-does-not-apply-at-all/]I expect this to turn into a whole messa tard.[/URL]

We would love to see a thread by some evoTARD trying to defend the claims of evolutionism.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:16   

Quote (Joe G @ April 14 2018,10:18)
Quote (JohnW @ April 13 2018,18:27)
Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56)
Water is a universal solvent.

That's why bottles don't exist.

water, the universal solvent
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Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients.

I think we can add "hyperbole" to the long, long list of words Joe doesn't understand.

How would we store a universal solvent, Joe?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:34   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,19:45   

Quote (JohnW @ April 14 2018,20:16)
How would we store a universal solvent, Joe?

Eh, I wouldn't lean too hard on that point. Water is commonly called "the universal solvent" even though strictly speaking that isn't accurate. Obviously it's not really universal because it barely dissolves nonpolar molecules like oil, hexane, silicon dioxide, etc. It's just called that because it's a better solvent than anything else.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:33   

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Quote (Joe G @ April 13 2018,15:56)
Water is a universal solvent.

That's why bottles don't exist.

water, the universal solvent
 
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Water is capable of dissolving a variety of different substances, which is why it is such a good solvent. And, water is called the "universal solvent" because it dissolves more substances than any other liquid. This is important to every living thing on earth. It means that wherever water goes, either through the ground or through our bodies, it takes along valuable chemicals, minerals, and nutrients.

I think we can add "hyperbole" to the long, long list of words Joe doesn't understand.

How would we store a universal solvent, Joe?

Take it up with the rest the world, Johnny. There are many articles describing water as a universal solvent. Your ignorance won't make them go away

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:34   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

Displacement

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,21:40   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

Displacement

Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,22:24   

Quote (Texas Teach @ April 14 2018,21:40)
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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

Displacement

Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float?

With icebergs just the tip generally shows. There is about a 10% difference between salt water and ice with respect to density.

So by overthinking the issue I get the chunk of solid plutonium suspended in liquid plutonium but not floating on top.

But seeing there is about a 2.5% difference between fresh and salt water I will be able to test that next time I make it to the beach.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,22:41   

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And not all liquids are solvents.

So just because those compounds are less dense as a solid than as a liquid doesn't mean they are also solvents.

Oh, Joe.  Yes they are.  Every liquid is capable of dissolving some other things.  That’s all that’s required to be a solvent.

Density of solid vs. liquid isn’t the cause solvent properties.  At best it’s caused by the same root property.  

However, per your earlier question, 100% of solids that are less dense than their liquids float in their own liquid.  Relative density is what makes things float.

Wrong! Not all liquids are solvents.

And no, plutonium is only 2.5% more dense as a liquid meaning a big solid chunk of it would not float in liquid plutonium.

Ahh. Joke never ceases to entertain. First it was that frequency = wavelength, now a solid that is less dense that its liquid form will sink.

The difference in density of water at 4C and at 20C is approximately 0.2%. Yet this is sufficient to make the temperature at the bottom of the oceans 4C.

The bottom of the ocean is not ice.

Try it and see. Take a big chunk of solid plutonium and place it in a vat of liquid plutonium and watch it sink

Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

Displacement

Now think this through, Joe.  What amount of displacement is required for an object to float?

With icebergs just the tip generally shows. There is about a 10% difference between salt water and ice with respect to density.

So by overthinking the issue I get the chunk of solid plutonium suspended in liquid plutonium but not floating on top.

But seeing there is about a 2.5% difference between fresh and salt water I will be able to test that next time I make it to the beach.

You are aware we know how to calculate this?  I get this isn't something you’ve studied, but why do you assume no one else has?  Joe, this is high school physics, but it’s a good thing that you’re interested in it, so here’s a place to start.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 14 2018,23:21   

You lost him at "high school"

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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2018,08:16   

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You lost him at "high school"

You lost him at “school”.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 15 2018,09:15   

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Because ice is less dense than water. Physics 101. But if solid plutonium is less dense than its liquid form, as you claim, why would it sink? You don’t make any sense.

Displacement

Wow. Joe gets an F- in middle school science.

   
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