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Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,06:16    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 27 2009,23:06) Quote (Lou FCD @ April 13 2009,07:13) 10Q Is that anything like Q10 calculations in physiology? I think that's Bio 160, Wesley. I'm not responsible for that information yet. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,06:20    Quote (csadams @ April 28 2009,00:00) Quote (Lou FCD @ April 27 2009,20:38) I got the word today that UNCW will not be hiring any interns this summer due to the economy. Summer registration was last week, and I didn't register because I knew I'd be tied up. I reallocated the tuition funds to another project to boot. And just to add insult to injury, I had planned for using the internship money to fund the fall semester. Fuck. If it helps, I know of a workshop or three which would pay a stipend and tuition over the summer.  The good news?  - they're in Kansas.  The bad? - they're in Kansas. Our district has axed summer school.  (Your second grader needs extra help in reading?  Too bad.)  A nearby district's last day of school is this Friday - three weeks early because they're out of money.  Two other nearby districts are RIFing.  In another district, the science teacher told me this weekend that the superintendent quit rather than RIF anyone else. This was such a great opportunity for you, Lou, and I'm sorry it's fallen victim to this great mess we call the economy.  Hang in there!   :( Yeah, things are just sucking all over. It might be interesting to visit Kansas for the summer, but given that my wife put her foot down (on my neck) about me going to sea as one of the possible UNCW projects (sample collections), it's probably out of the question. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,09:27    Quote (Lou FCD @ April 28 2009,06:20) Quote (csadams @ April 28 2009,00:00) Quote (Lou FCD @ April 27 2009,20:38) I got the word today that UNCW will not be hiring any interns this summer due to the economy. Summer registration was last week, and I didn't register because I knew I'd be tied up. I reallocated the tuition funds to another project to boot. And just to add insult to injury, I had planned for using the internship money to fund the fall semester. Fuck. If it helps, I know of a workshop or three which would pay a stipend and tuition over the summer.  The good news?  - they're in Kansas.  The bad? - they're in Kansas. Our district has axed summer school.  (Your second grader needs extra help in reading?  Too bad.)  A nearby district's last day of school is this Friday - three weeks early because they're out of money.  Two other nearby districts are RIFing.  In another district, the science teacher told me this weekend that the superintendent quit rather than RIF anyone else. This was such a great opportunity for you, Lou, and I'm sorry it's fallen victim to this great mess we call the economy.  Hang in there!   :( Yeah, things are just sucking all over. It might be interesting to visit Kansas for the summer, but given that my wife put her foot down (on my neck) about me going to sea as one of the possible UNCW projects (sample collections), it's probably out of the question. It could be worse - she could be begging you to go to sea...and asking for rich's email. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,16:32    Ah, but Kansas is about as far from the sea as one can get!

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,16:48    Quote (Lou FCD @ April 28 2009,06:20) Quote (csadams @ April 28 2009,00:00) Quote (Lou FCD @ April 27 2009,20:38) I got the word today that UNCW will not be hiring any interns this summer due to the economy. Summer registration was last week, and I didn't register because I knew I'd be tied up. I reallocated the tuition funds to another project to boot. And just to add insult to injury, I had planned for using the internship money to fund the fall semester. Fuck. If it helps, I know of a workshop or three which would pay a stipend and tuition over the summer.  The good news?  - they're in Kansas.  The bad? - they're in Kansas. Our district has axed summer school.  (Your second grader needs extra help in reading?  Too bad.)  A nearby district's last day of school is this Friday - three weeks early because they're out of money.  Two other nearby districts are RIFing.  In another district, the science teacher told me this weekend that the superintendent quit rather than RIF anyone else. This was such a great opportunity for you, Lou, and I'm sorry it's fallen victim to this great mess we call the economy.  Hang in there!   :( Yeah, things are just sucking all over. It might be interesting to visit Kansas for the summer, but given that my wife put her foot down (on my neck) about me going to sea as one of the possible UNCW projects (sample collections), it's probably out of the question. i went on one of those research cruises with those UNCW guys one time.  i had a ball but the head scientist was an ass.  i wanted to kill him by the time the cruise was over.  got lots of respect for those folks spending week after week on boats in the middle of the ocean, its a wonder that the sea isn't littered with bobbing corpses. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Wesley R. Elsberry Posts: 4991 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,17:06    After weeks at sea, everybody knows to use a sinker. Ever read Ian Fleming's "The Hildebrand Rarity"? -------------- "You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 28 2009,17:53    Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 28 2009,18:06) After weeks at sea, everybody knows to use a sinker. Ever read Ian Fleming's "The Hildebrand Rarity"? lol -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

csadams Posts: 124 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 29 2009,06:40    Quote (Henry J @ April 28 2009,16:32) Ah, but Kansas is about as far from the sea as one can get! ;) Well, yeah . . . now . . . gotta love the Cretaceous, though - But won't Lou's future students see his um, obvious maturity, and think he was around at the time of the mosasaurs anyway? FWIW, Lou, if those workshops exist in Kansas, hopefully there are some in your area. -------------- Stand Up For REAL Science!

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 07 2009,15:49    The Chair rang me up today to tell me that Dub has decided to offer Coastal one intern slot, as a volunteer. I got it, and I'm happy about it and all, and I really look forward to it, but... well, you know. Money would have been nice too. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 07 2009,15:58    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 07 2009,15:49) The Chair rang me up today to tell me that Dub has decided to offer Coastal one intern slot, as a volunteer. I got it, and I'm happy about it and all, and I really look forward to it, but... well, you know. Money would have been nice too. So, tell them what you need - maybe there are some discretionary funds hidden away somewhere.  Worth a try! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,15:44    Thanks, J, I will. They're supposed to call me sometime in the near future. Meanwhile, I was out and about after my 112 final today and bumped into my prof who was coming into a store as I was going out. He stopped me to let me know I'd gotten an A on the final exam. I'm ready for summer break now. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

ERV Posts: 329 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,15:58    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2009,15:44) Meanwhile, I was out and about after my 112 final today and bumped into my prof who was coming into a store as I was going out. He stopped me to let me know I'd gotten an A on the final exam. *nod* Working in TARD mines is good for your biology grades. It strengthens the haunches.

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,16:21    Quote (ERV @ May 12 2009,16:58) Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2009,15:44) Meanwhile, I was out and about after my 112 final today and bumped into my prof who was coming into a store as I was going out. He stopped me to let me know I'd gotten an A on the final exam. *nod* Working in TARD mines is good for your biology grades. It strengthens the haunches. Not good for the blood pressure though, I suspect. :) I'm looking forward to botany and zoology and ecology, where I can spend a semester each on one subject. Bio 112 is like this huge whirlwind, covering so much ground it makes my head swim. The final wasn't even cumulative, and it covered mosses, ferns, gymnosperms, angiosperms, ecology, and Tragedy of the Commons. I need some alcohol tonight to unwind, for sure. Who's buying? -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

khan Posts: 1554 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,16:29    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2009,17:21) Quote (ERV @ May 12 2009,16:58) Quote (Lou FCD @ May 12 2009,15:44) Meanwhile, I was out and about after my 112 final today and bumped into my prof who was coming into a store as I was going out. He stopped me to let me know I'd gotten an A on the final exam. *nod* Working in TARD mines is good for your biology grades. It strengthens the haunches. Not good for the blood pressure though, I suspect. :) I'm looking forward to botany and zoology and ecology, where I can spend a semester each on one subject. Bio 112 is like this huge whirlwind, covering so much ground it makes my head swim. The final wasn't even cumulative, and it covered mosses, ferns, gymnosperms, angiosperms, ecology, and Tragedy of the Commons. I need some alcohol tonight to unwind, for sure. Who's buying? What do you want? I recall liking peach brandy. -------------- "It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad Frequency is just the plural of wavelength... -JoeG

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,17:42    Quote (khan @ May 12 2009,17:29) What do you want? I recall liking peach brandy. If it's free, it's me. :) I think tonight it's just a few Yuengling Lagers. I'll do something more special this weekend, I think. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,18:52    lets see something more special... eastern North Carolina... yup that would be Natty Light, wouldnit? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 12 2009,20:55    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ May 12 2009,19:52) lets see something more special... eastern North Carolina... yup that would be Natty Light, wouldnit? lol, plobly. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,13:11    w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

KCdgw Posts: 376 Joined: Sep. 2002 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,13:21    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,13:11) w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. That is an outstanding piece of writing. KC -------------- Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it-- Confucius

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,13:30    Quote (KCdgw @ May 15 2009,14:21) Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,13:11) w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. That is an outstanding piece of writing. KC Thank you. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,15:25    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,13:11) w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. Damn that's good!   No wonder Davetard fell for you! :)  As a Mighty Morphin U S Marine, (Chessy-Poof Division) he recognized the special bond that exists between warriors, and was drawn to you like a moth to a flame. Hoo Rah for your story. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,16:15    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,13:11) w00t! Just got a call from the English department. 8 Seconds has been chosen for the New River Anthology, to be published in August. Also, they want me to read it at a fall reading. HA HA THIS IS YOU -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it.  We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

ppb Posts: 325 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,18:44    Congratulations Lou.  That's a nice bit of writing.  I wish I could write like that, although I am happy not to have such a dramatic bit of personal experience to share with the world.   -------------- "[A scientific theory] describes Nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. So I hope you can accept Nature as She is - absurd." - Richard P. Feynman

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: May 15 2009,19:48    Thanks all. That's one of my favorite pieces, so I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,07:48    So, internship obviously fell through in the end, but SQUEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! From the preface to my zoology textbook, I just opened: Quote Chapter 1 begins with a brief explanation of the scientific method - what science is (and what it is not) - and then moves to a discussion of evolutionary principles. Following a historical account of Charles Darwin's life and discoveries, we present the five major components of Darwin's evolutionary theory, and an assessment of its current scientific status. This approach reflects our understanding that Darwinism is not a single, simple statement easily confirmed or refuted. It also prepares the student to dismiss the arguments of creationists who misconstrue scientific challenges to Darwinism as contradictions to the validity of organic evolution. The chapter ends with discussion of micro- and macroevolution. Methinks it will be an interesting semester. Edited by Lou FCD on Aug. 15 2009,08:50 -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

dvunkannon Posts: 1377 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 15 2009,08:07    Quote (Lou FCD @ May 15 2009,20:48) Thanks all. That's one of my favorite pieces, so I'm glad y'all enjoyed it. Left you a comment over there. Congratulations! -------------- I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

Henry J Posts: 5786 Joined: Mar. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,17:31    Quote It also prepares the student to dismiss the arguments of creationists who misconstrue scientific challenges to Darwinism as contradictions to the validity of organic evolution. Now that's an area in which you probably have a big head start, due to precipitating here and at PT! Henry

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,19:28    Have to share: Quote We emphasize that the word "theory," when used by scientists, is not arbitrary speculation as is often implied by nonscientific usage. Creationists make this mistake when they call evolution "only a theory" to imply that it is little better than a random guess. In fact, evolutionary theory is supported by such massive evidence that most biologists consider repudiation of evolution a repudiation of reason. Nonetheless, evolution, like all other theories in science, cannot be proved correct by mathematical logic, but is testable, tentative, and falsifiable. (my emphasis) That's in Chapter 1, just after a whole section on the Principles of Science that talked a bit about McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover. Oh, yeah, a quote from there: Quote Unfortunately, the religious position formerly called creation-science has reappeared in American politics with the name "intelligent design theory." Ouch. (snicker) Also, the text says that little Billy D is a poopy head who makes crappy farty videos.* *Ok, the text doesn't really say that part. It does however mention that the eight school board members who supported the intelligent-design requirement in Dover were summarily given the toe of the boot. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,19:45    Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 16 2009,18:31) Quote It also prepares the student to dismiss the arguments of creationists who misconstrue scientific challenges to Darwinism as contradictions to the validity of organic evolution. Now that's an area in which you probably have a big head start, due to precipitating here and at PT! Henry Yeah, definitely, though it looks like the text says what it has to say about the creationists and then gets on with real biology. (As it should, I might add.) My carousing here won't be much of an advantage in that respect, in the end. I've picked up way more than that hanging out here though, and that definitely puts me at a significant advantage in all my science classes. I am profoundly grateful for this place and its gallery of snarky rogues and assorted riff-raff. -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2009,20:33    No need to hunt for snarks after you find this place. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

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