RSS 2.0 Feed

» Welcome Guest Log In :: Register

Pages: (3) < 1 [2] 3 >   
  Topic: Alternative reality wikis, Beware: Nutters at work< Next Oldest | Next Newest >  
argystokes



Posts: 766
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2007,21:12   

Quote
Account creation has been re-enabled until 11:00 PM EST tonight.


--------------
"Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

  
Faid



Posts: 1143
Joined: Mar. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2007,21:38   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 04 2007,13:00)

I think this confirms the theory that it's mostly homeschooled 13-year-olds who write their entries.

I'm inevitably reminded of this.

OMG this was beautiful, in a surreal way...

Quote
The three gods were "Good," "Bad," and "Indifferent." These beliefs later resurfaced among the Manatees.



Oh also:

Quote
Zorroastrologism was founded by Zorro. This was a duelist religion.



:D

--------------
A look into DAVE HAWKINS' sense of honesty:

"The truth is that ALL mutations REDUCE information"

"...mutations can add information to a genome. And remember, I have never said that this is not possible."

  
phonon



Posts: 396
Joined: Nov. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2007,23:10   

http://www.conservapedia.com/Entropy
   
Quote
Entropy is a measure of disorder in a system, first postulated by Lazare Carnot in 1803.

Creationist scientist Henry Morris argues that the law of Entropy, also known as the Second Law of Thermodynamics, disproves evolution: "...the Second law, however, that wipes out the theory of evolution. There is a universal process of change, and it is a directional change, but it is not an upward change."[1]

Actually entropy isn't the measure of disorder in a system, but who cares. Of course the only thing they can say about it is that is disproves evolution.

http://www.conservapedia.com/History_of_entropy
   
Quote
Entropy developed as a way of accounting for the basic asymmetry in the conversion of work and heat. Work is easily converted into heat, but heat is not easily converted back into work. The conversion of work into heat occurs spontaneously, but the opposite conversion does not.
That's more accurate. Entropy can result in an increase of disorder, but I don't know if there is a rigorous definition of the word "disorder."

http://www.conservapedia.com/The_Second_law_of_Thermodynamics
   
Quote
Many Creationists claim that the Second Law of Thermodynamics disproves evolution.[1] Evolutionists deny this claim stating that the earth is not an isolated system because energy is pumped in from the sun. However, the universe as a whole is an isolated system. An isolated system never exchanges matter or energy with its surroundings. It is impossible for the total entropy of an isolated system to decrease, therefore the universe is becoming more and more disordered. In this way the Second Law of Thermodynamics disproves evolution.

:) Total horse dung, of course.

http://www.conservapedia.com/Should_....ools%3F
   
Quote
Post Your Thoughts
[edit]
yes...

Yes, if they taught in Religious studies.

Islam, hinduism and other religious ideas are taught in school.
But isn't creationism/ID (thanks for grouping them together for us) also a Muslim idea? No? It's only the Christian version that's not taught in schools? My bad.

   
Quote
    REPLY
   Creationism is not scientific? This is absolute nonsense. This is what evolutionists like to think, but it is the farthest thing from the truth. What can evolutionists bring up about creationism that is non-scientific?



Compare and contrast: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy

--------------
With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

  
phonon



Posts: 396
Joined: Nov. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2007,23:16   

http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory

Quote
Theory
From Conservapedia
Jump to: navigation, search

A hypothesis that has been tested with a significant amount of data,[1] for which a sufficient amount of evidence (and a lack of disconfirming evidence) has been found that it would be perverse to withhold assent.

The discovery of new evidence often leads scientists to revise their thinking and discard or refine previously held theories, such as Newtonian Physics, Luminiferous Ether, and Phrenology.


What? Luminiferous Ether and Phrenology, but not Evolution? Well now.

--------------
With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

  
guthrie



Posts: 696
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,02:35   

I was still minded to think this was a hoax, but I've just heard people on radio 4 talking about it.  The host was refereeing a short exchange between some idiot called Schlafly and someone from Wikipedia itself.  The idiot called Schlafly kept complaining that pro-american and pro-christian articles were being edited out on wikipedia.  

How can someone so stupid that they don't even read the instructions be allowed to appear on radio?
Wikipedia says specifically that they are aiming for a neutral point of view.  Pro-christian and pro-american articles are not neutral.
End of story.  

He should have been slapped down like a recalcitrant 5 year old, but they were nice to him.

  
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



Posts: 2560
Joined: Feb. 2005

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,07:04   

Quote (guthrie @ Mar. 07 2007,02:35)
some idiot called Schlafly

That's Phyllis Shafly's son.

Every right-wing fundie-watcher knows who Phyllis Schafly is.

--------------
Editor, Red and Black Publishers
www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

  
guthrie



Posts: 696
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,09:28   

Ahh yes, that's why the name is familiar.

What was also amusing was that he protested about some entity called "nearly headless nick" who had been reverting their alterations on Wikipedia.  Those of us who read will be aware that that is one of the ghosts at Hogwarts, in the Harry Potter books.  He didn't seem to have a clue what the name was from.

  
JohnW



Posts: 3037
Joined: Aug. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,11:39   

Compare and contrast:

Wikipedia on Conservapedia
Quote
Widely disseminated examples of Conservapedia articles that contradict the scientific consensus include the claims that all kangaroos descend from a single pair that were taken aboard Noah's Ark, that "Einstein's work had nothing to do with the development of the atomic bomb" and that gravity and evolution are theories that remain unproven.


Conservapedia on Wikipedia
Quote
The administrators who monitor and control the content on Wikipedia do not represent the views of the majority of Americans, and many are in fact not American.


Why do you want to learn about kangaroos, Einstein, gravity or evolution anyway?  They're not even American.

--------------
Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
JohnW



Posts: 3037
Joined: Aug. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,11:45   

The tard just keeps on coming:

Moon
Quote
Our solar system is one of the few that has only one sun. Only one sun and only one moon: this uniqueness may reflect the existence of only one God.

And Long John Silver had only one leg.  So that settles it.

--------------
Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
Mike PSS



Posts: 428
Joined: Sep. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,13:13   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 07 2007,12:45)
The tard just keeps on coming:

Moon
Quote
Our solar system is one of the few that has only one sun. Only one sun and only one moon: this uniqueness may reflect the existence of only one God.

And Long John Silver had only one leg. So that settles it.

That whole article is one large apologetic.

Even I caution my 10 year old from quoting Wikipedia. Like any other encyclopedia I tell her to ALWAYS refer to the linked articles AND to google the subject to find alternatives not listed.

This dimbulb has one link, not in support of his ramblings but to point to items he disagrees with.  I hope I meet this author at a PTA meeting or some other public forum.

  
Arden Chatfield



Posts: 6657
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,13:25   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 07 2007,11:45)
The tard just keeps on coming:

Moon
Quote
Our solar system is one of the few that has only one sun. Only one sun and only one moon: this uniqueness may reflect the existence of only one God.

And Long John Silver had only one leg. So that settles it.

So Cyclops was God?

--------------
"Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

  
Ichthyic



Posts: 3325
Joined: May 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,13:47   

Quote
Why do you want to learn about kangaroos, Einstein, gravity or evolution anyway? They're not even American.


well, some yes and some no, but at least in the case of gravity, I think the nutters are trying their best to reduce the effects of gravity on themselves by pumping their skulls full of as much hot air as they possibly can.

soon, they'll be neutrally buoyant, and then they can start spouting how there really is no gravity.

Quote
So Cyclops was God?


now, now, the cyclops was the SON of a greek god.  clearly he was created with one eye as a sign of the one god.

oh wait.

--------------
"And the sea will grant each man new hope..."

-CC

  
JohnW



Posts: 3037
Joined: Aug. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,13:56   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Mar. 07 2007,13:25)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 07 2007,11:45)
The tard just keeps on coming:

Moon
 
Quote
Our solar system is one of the few that has only one sun. Only one sun and only one moon: this uniqueness may reflect the existence of only one God.

And Long John Silver had only one leg. So that settles it.

So Cyclops was God?

Hitler has only got one ball,
Goering has two but they're too small,
Himmler has something similar,
And poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.


Hitler was God.

Quote (afdave @ Oct. 02, 2006 18:37)
Many Jews were in comfortable oblivion about Hitler ... until it was too late.
Many scientists will persist in comfortable oblivion about their Creator ... until it is too late.

See?

--------------
Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



Posts: 2560
Joined: Feb. 2005

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2007,18:23   

Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 07 2007,13:56)
Hitler has only got one ball,
Goering has two but they're too small,
Himmler has something similar,
And poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.

Wow, I haven't heard that one in YEARS . . . .

To get the full effect of it, you need to sing it to the tune that was whistled by all the soliders in "Bridge on the River Kwai" . . .

--------------
Editor, Red and Black Publishers
www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit



Posts: 4999
Joined: July 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2007,07:58   

http://www.conservapedia.com/Incest

Quote
A sexual practice followed rigorously in the southern states of the USA


--------------
I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugers work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand
Gordon Mullings

  
Lou FCD



Posts: 5409
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2007,08:25   

Quote
No. Infinite regression is a cop-out. It is closely akin to circular reasoning, except that the line of reasoning is not so much a circle as a spiral, into the infinite past or at least through an infinite number of prior steps. For example: How did life originate on earth? It didn't--it couldn't have. So where did it come from? Did God create it? No--no God-talk in scientific circles. (Francis H. Crick once wrote a nasty letter to Winston Churchill suggesting that a brothel would be just as appropriate as a chapel at Oxford University.) Therefore, life was deposited on earth from the outside. How? By a ballistic missile or a comet's tail. Where did that life come from? From another planet. But how did life arise on that other planet? It didn't--couldn't have--too much information. Did God create life on that other planet? Oh, no. Therefore life was deposited on that planet as well. Where did that life come from? From another ballistic missile. And so on, and so on, for an infinite number of steps.

Am I the only one who recognizes such a line of reasoning as absurd? And not merely absurd, but self-serving of the interests of those seeking to deny God's existence and His role as Creator. It is a very travesty of logic, and that is why I sought to classify it as a logical fallacy.

Why, then, is it not a logical fallacy? Can an infinite regression ever exist in nature? I'm waiting for the evidence.--TerryH 23:40, 6 March 2007 (EST)


Is infinite regression ever valid

Which I happened across by clicking from the subheading two below Special Pleading on the logical fallacy page.

The irony is strong with this one, my Master.

--------------
Lou FCD is still in school, so we should only count him as a baby biologist. -carlsonjok -deprecated
I think I might love you. Don't tell Deadman -Wolfhound

Work-friendly photography
NSFW photography

   
Ichthyic



Posts: 3325
Joined: May 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2007,13:26   

Quote
The irony is strong with this one, my Master.


Master says not to bother trying to turn this one.

--------------
"And the sea will grant each man new hope..."

-CC

  
phonon



Posts: 396
Joined: Nov. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2007,20:27   

I'm sorry that this has nothing to do with Jesuspedia, but I didn't know where else to put it and I didn't want to start a thread about one video. But, you have to check it out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7592727299684964168

--------------
With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

  
k.e



Posts: 1948
Joined: Mar. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2007,20:42   

Quote (phonon @ Mar. 12 2007,03:27)
I'm sorry that this has nothing to do with Jesuspedia, but I didn't know where else to put it and I didn't want to start a thread about one video. But, you have to check it out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7592727299684964168

Shhhh ......don't tell Air Force Dave about this.

What a waste of pixels.

--------------
The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
phonon



Posts: 396
Joined: Nov. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 11 2007,21:56   

Wait a minute, maybe I should start a new thread. This guy is a comic book artist and he has a whole website of videos that are awesome. I think I'll try to show how pop media and goofy ideas can come together to make some ridiculous claims that are really believable to people who don't think it through.

--------------
With most men, unbelief in one thing springs from blind belief in another. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

To do just the opposite is also a form of imitation. - Georg Christoph Lichtenberg

  
Mr_Christopher



Posts: 1238
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2007,17:28   

The beauty about conservapedia is you can be the dumbest person in town and rule there.

I created an account a while back and I make edits to articles that are so completely absurd that they are acceptable.  I'm a born again loon there and make articles dumber and no one challenges my edits because, like I said, from a fundy perspective my edits are so lunatic fringe that they are mainstream on the conservapedia site.

No one is going to question you there if you use tbe bible to rationalize your opinion/edits.

It's fun being in the belly of the beast sometimes :-)

--------------
Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

  
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



Posts: 2560
Joined: Feb. 2005

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2007,17:56   

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 16 2007,16:28)
The beauty about conservapedia is you can be the dumbest person in town and rule there.

I created an account a while back and I make edits to articles that are so completely absurd that they are acceptable. I'm a born again loon there and make articles dumber and no one challenges my edits because, like I said, from a fundy perspective my edits are so lunatic fringe that they are mainstream on the conservapedia site.

No one is going to question you there if you use tbe bible to rationalize your opinion/edits.

It's fun being in the belly of the beast sometimes :-)

I once got on a creationists-only email list by pretending to be a hyper-literalist named Joseph, who was not only a YEC, but a geocentrist to boot.  I cut-and-pasted lots of crapola from the Biblical Astronomer site, along with the appropriate Bible verses.  Oddly enough, not a single creationist on the list was able to point out why any of my "scientific arguments for geocentrism" were wrong -- but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM wanted to argue with me over my interpretation of those Biblical verses.  Shocker, huh.

I also put out the argument that learning foreign languages was sinful and anti-Biblical, since God specifically created different languages at the Tower of Babel so we humans couldn't all talk to teach other.  Not only were the fundies utterly unable to make any coherent argument against that, but I actually made a convert to my point of view.

They are idiots, all.

--------------
Editor, Red and Black Publishers
www.RedandBlackPublishers.com

  
Lou FCD



Posts: 5409
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2007,18:11   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Mar. 16 2007,16:56)
I also put out the argument that learning foreign languages was sinful and anti-Biblical, since God specifically created different languages at the Tower of Babel so we humans couldn't all talk to teach other.  Not only were the fundies utterly unable to make any coherent argument against that, but I actually made a convert to my point of view.

They are idiots, all.

Thank you Lenny, that's the best laugh I've had all week.

--------------
Lou FCD is still in school, so we should only count him as a baby biologist. -carlsonjok -deprecated
I think I might love you. Don't tell Deadman -Wolfhound

Work-friendly photography
NSFW photography

   
J-Dog



Posts: 4402
Joined: Dec. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2007,19:47   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Mar. 16 2007,16:56)
I also put out the argument that learning foreign languages was sinful and anti-Biblical, since God specifically created different languages at the Tower of Babel so we humans couldn't all talk to teach other. Not only were the fundies utterly unable to make any coherent argument against that, but I actually made a convert to my point of view.

They are idiots, all.

Praise Jeebus!  You made a convert!

After all, God must be telling us something because bable and bible sound so much alike!

If you just put it through the Dembski Filter, it will prove it to you.  Where you = troutmac.

--------------
Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Mike PSS



Posts: 428
Joined: Sep. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2007,16:24   

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Mar. 07 2007,19:23)
Quote (JohnW @ Mar. 07 2007,13:56)
Hitler has only got one ball,
Goering has two but they're too small,
Himmler has something similar,
And poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.

Wow, I haven't heard that one in YEARS . . . .

To get the full effect of it, you need to sing it to the tune that was whistled by all the soliders in "Bridge on the River Kwai" . . .

I forgot this one too.  Thanks for the memory.

I think I'm the last generation (born 1966) to actually use these songs and rhymes.  All the WW2 references and songs were still passed around the elementary school.  We didn't care about the names, just the use of "balls" (or "dick" or others of course).  I don't hear these references any more, although I don't hang out in elementary school anymore also.  They're all singing about Michael Jackson and "Beat It" now.  Weird Al, take a bow.  You'll be immortilized to 4th graders for generations to come.

  
Arctodus23



Posts: 322
Joined: Mar. 2013

(Permalink) Posted: April 21 2013,16:48   

Creation Wiki has asserted that:

[quote=CreationWiki]ID theorists draw exclusively upon empirical evidence to support the existence of a creative intelligence or designer. ID purports that design can be detected without any understanding of who the designer is or why the agent acted, or even how the phenomenon in question was actually produced. ID is a unique scientific position that stands in stark contrast to naturalistic, materialistic philosophy of science which puts forth abiogenesis rather then intelligent agents as the main mechanism that created biological systems for sustaining life. It can also clearly be distinguished from religious creationism in that it stakes no claim regarding the specific identity of the creator, nor does it use references from scripture when forming theories about the history of the world. In fact, many ID theorists support the idea of common descent and billions of years of time. ID simply postulates that certain features within the cosmos present clear evidence of being deliberately and intelligently designed.
[/quote]

 What a load of horseshit. Someone needs to slap the people that edit this.

--------------
"At our churchs funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL

"So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross
violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

   
Robin



Posts: 1431
Joined: Sep. 2009

(Permalink) Posted: April 22 2013,13:03   

Quote (Arctodus23 @ April 21 2013,16:48)
What a load of horseshit. Someone needs to slap the people that edit this.

No no! See, this is from Creationwiki. Thus the world knows it's fake. It's like The Onion articles - everyone knows they are satire because that's their rep.

:D

--------------
we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed. Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
Arctodus23



Posts: 322
Joined: Mar. 2013

(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2013,15:36   

Quote (Robin @ April 22 2013,13:03)
Quote (Arctodus23 @ April 21 2013,16:48)
What a load of horseshit. Someone needs to slap the people that edit this.

No no! See, this is from Creationwiki. Thus the world knows it's fake. It's like The Onion articles - everyone knows they are satire because that's their rep.

:D

I think, they believe this nonsense. I get a good laugh out of it.

--------------
"At our churchs funerals, we sing gospel songs (out loud) to God." -- FL

"So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross
violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

   
Wesley R. Elsberry



Posts: 4930
Joined: May 2002

(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2013,19:33   

Evolution ... and obesity?

--------------
"You can't teach an old dogma new tricks." - Dorothy Parker

    
The whole truth



Posts: 1554
Joined: Jan. 2012

(Permalink) Posted: April 23 2013,22:00   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ April 23 2013,17:33)
Evolution ... and obesity?

Does that mean that all the overweight people on Earth are evolutionists? If that's so, there are a lot more evolutionists than I thought, especially in the USA.

What's the minimum I should weigh to be considered a bona fide evolutionist? :)

--------------
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
  68 replies since Mar. 02 2007,12:57 < Next Oldest | Next Newest >  

Pages: (3) < 1 [2] 3 >   


Track this topic Email this topic Print this topic

[ Read the Board Rules ] | [Useful Links] | [Evolving Designs]