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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,11:19   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,11:20   

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,11:38   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,09:19)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

He extrapolated from never seeing a tick evolve into a watermelon.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,11:53   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

What anthropogenic global warming?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,11:57   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,11:19)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

Umm the evidence for ID has been presented and you choked on it, timmy.

All experiments, Lenski's included, and all observations say there are limits to what genetic change can do. No one has to demonstrate that some barrier exists. If someone wants to extrapolate beyond from what experiments and observations demonstrate then it is up to them to provide the evidence for it. Science 101.

timmy knows it can't do that and doesn't realize its fallback tactic exposes its scientific illiteracy.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:01   

Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 15 2018,11:38)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,09:19)
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

He extrapolated from never seeing a tick evolve into a watermelon.

What? I extrapolated from observing many ticks on the flesh side of discarded watermelon rinds to ticks prefer that environment to the ultra-dry forest floor.

And all you losers can try to do is challenge that observation. That is the stuff of pre-school and easily ignored.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:04   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:01)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 15 2018,11:38)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,09:19)
   
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

He extrapolated from never seeing a tick evolve into a watermelon.

What? I extrapolated from observing many ticks on the flesh side of discarded watermelon rinds to ticks prefer that environment to the ultra-dry forest floor.

And all you losers can try to do is challenge that observation. That is the stuff of pre-school and easily ignored.

Did the Designer create the tick "kind" to go along with the watermelon "kind"?

We know who created the obese blustering scientifically illiterate toaster repairman "kind".   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:04   

The criteria for inferring design in biology is, as Michael J. Behe, Professor of Biochemistry at Leheigh University, puts it in his book Darwin ' s Black Box: "Our ability to be confident of the design of the cilium or intracellular transport rests on the same principles to be confident of the design of anything: the ordering of separate components to achieve an identifiable function that depends sharply on the components.”

That's the detail. And if anyone ever demonstrates that evolution by means of blind and mindless processes can produce such things then the claim of ID would be falsified.

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The National Academy of Sciences has objected that intelligent design is not falsifiable, and I think that’s just the opposite of the truth. Intelligent design is very open to falsification. I claim, for example, that the bacterial flagellum could not be produced by natural selection; it needed to be deliberately intelligently designed. Well, all a scientist has to do to prove me wrong is to take a bacterium without a flagellum, or knock out the genes for the flagellum in a bacterium, go into his lab and grow that bug for a long time and see if it produces anything resembling a flagellum. If that happened, intelligent design, as I understand it, would be knocked out of the water. I certainly don’t expect it to happen, but it’s easily falsified by a series of such experiments.

Now let’s turn that around and ask, How do we falsify the contention that natural selection produced the bacterial flagellum? If that same scientist went into the lab and knocked out the bacterial flagellum genes, grew the bacterium for a long time, and nothing much happened, well, he’d say maybe we didn’t start with the right bacterium, maybe we didn’t wait long enough, maybe we need a bigger population, and it would be very much more difficult to falsify the Darwinian hypothesis.

I think the very opposite is true. I think intelligent design is easily testable, easily falsifiable, although it has not been falsified, and Darwinism is very resistant to being falsified. They can always claim something was not right.- Dr Behe


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:06   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,12:04)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:01)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 15 2018,11:38)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,09:19)
   
Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 15 2018,11:07)
Joke's meltdown might be responsible for anthropogenic global warming.

I'm really excited about finally getting our first detail on the actual design - the Designer created some initial "kinds" which can evolve but have some barrier which prevents them from evolving too far.

For some reason Joke won't explain where he got that information or how he tested the claim.

He extrapolated from never seeing a tick evolve into a watermelon.

What? I extrapolated from observing many ticks on the flesh side of discarded watermelon rinds to ticks prefer that environment to the ultra-dry forest floor.

And all you losers can try to do is challenge that observation. That is the stuff of pre-school and easily ignored.

Did the Designer create the tick "kind" to go along with the watermelon "kind"?

We know he created the obese blustering scientifically illiterate toaster repairman "kind".   :D

And on cue loser pre-schooler timmy the donut chimes in with its usual pre-school insipidity.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:07   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,11:23)
The spambots are out in force today.

You are always out in force, timmy. The only difference between you and those spambots is sometimes they make sense

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:09   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:04)
The criteria for inferring design in biology is, as Michael J. Behe, Professor of Biochemistry at Leheigh University

Why doesn't Behe accept your claim of specially created baraminology "kinds"?

Why doesn't Meyer or Axe or any of the other DI ID specialists accept your specially created baraminology "kinds"?

Looks like you're all by yourself on this one Joke.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:16   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,12:09)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:04)
The criteria for inferring design in biology is, as Michael J. Behe, Professor of Biochemistry at Leheigh University

Why doesn't Behe accept your claim of specially created baraminology "kinds"?

Why doesn't Meyer or Axe or any of the other DI ID specialists accept your specially created baraminology "kinds"?

Looks like you're all by yourself on this one Joke.

Umm, timmy, you ignorant slut. I said all experiments and observations show that there are limits to what evolutionary processes can produce. People are free to say that other things can happen when we aren't looking but it is up to them to support the claim. That is Science 101, dipshit.

People are free to think prokaryotes evolved into eukaryotes. But without any supporting science no one has to listen to them and their pap definitely shouldn't be taught in public schools science classrooms.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:37   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:16)
I said all experiments and observations show that there are limits to what evolutionary processes can produce.

You say a lot of really dumb things you can't back up Joke.

What are the limits then Chubs?  What is the magic barrier which prevents one of your created "kinds" from evolving over time into a different created "kind"?

Running that big mouth with your empty claims might impress KF but it just makes you look like an illiterate asshole here.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,12:46   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,12:37)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:16)
I said all experiments and observations show that there are limits to what evolutionary processes can produce.

You say a lot of really dumb things you can't back up Joke.

What are the limits then Chubs?  What is the magic barrier which prevents one of your created "kinds" from evolving over time into a different created "kind"?

Running that big mouth with your empty claims might impress KF but it just makes you look like an illiterate asshole here.

All observations and experiments back me up, loser. What do you have?

And again I see you are having difficulty with science. You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

BTW all you are doing is proving that you are an illiterate asshole. Nice own goal, assmunch

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,13:36   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joke?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

Once again Joke makes another stupid claim without thinking it through.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,14:14   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.

No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

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YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,14:58   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:14)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.

No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.

"A mysterious designer doing mysterious things via mysterious means at mysterious times for mysterious purposes" is indeed a splendid explanation.  Almost as good as last-Tuesdayism.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:10   

Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 15 2018,14:58)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:14)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.

No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.

"A mysterious designer doing mysterious things via mysterious means at mysterious times for mysterious purposes" is indeed a splendid explanation.  Almost as good as last-Tuesdayism.

ID is about the DESIGN, asshole.

And what the fuck do you have John? "A bunch of shit happened and here we are!"

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:12   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,14:14)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.


What barrier stops "changes to trait carrying genes" from evolving a species outside of its "kind" then?

   
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No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.


How do you know there are separate "kinds" when you can't even tell how many "kinds" are in an Order like the Chiroptera?   If one bat "kind" evolved into a different bat "kind" how would you even know?

You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:15   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:12)
You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Actually, it's getting pretty dull.  He needs some new material.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:18   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,15:12)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,14:14)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.


What barrier stops "changes to trait carrying genes" from evolving a species outside of its "kind" then?

   
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No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.


How do you know there are separate "kinds" when you can't even tell how many "kinds" are in an Order like the Chiroptera?

You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Umm, timmy, do you think changes in eye color explains the eye? There aren't any known micro evolutionary events that can be added together to produce new body plans requiring new body parts. Anti-biotic resistance has no chance of explaining the vast leap from proks to eukaryotes.

Don't keep blaming me for your FAILure to produce a mechanism capable of producing the changes required.

And body plans are the key indicator of different archetypes, dickface. There aren't any known mechanisms capable of changing body plans. that is why Dr Behe relies on "God did it".

AGAIN science is what will tell us how many different archetypes there were. You need to focus on your own lame position as you can't even get started.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:21   

Quote (JohnW @ Feb. 15 2018,15:15)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:12)
You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Actually, it's getting pretty dull.  He needs some new material.

John, you were born dull. And you don't have any material.

You assholes create these threads to try to demean other people but all you prove is how what a desperate and shallow bunch of gossipers you are.

And the sad part is I am sure it makes you feel big

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:22   

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Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable.- John McDonald, “The Molecular Basis of Adaptation: A Critical Review of Relevant Ideas and Observation”, Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics: 14, 1983, p77-102 (bold added)


Different genes involved. That is why micro doesn't add up to macro

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:37   

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BTW all you are doing is proving that you are an illiterate asshole. Nice own goal, assmunch

Illiterate means "unable to read or write". You're replying to his written comments via more text to accuse him of  an "own goal".

Stable Genius!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:42   

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Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
BTW all you are doing is proving that you are an illiterate asshole. Nice own goal, assmunch

Illiterate means "unable to read or write". You're replying to his written comments via more text to accuse him of  an "own goal".

Stable Genius!

timmy, and you for that matter, is unable to read for comprehension. That is most likely why you have to quote-mine and bluff.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:42   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,15:18)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,15:12)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,14:14)
           
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 15 2018,13:36)
           
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 15 2018,12:46)
You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.


What barrier stops "changes to trait carrying genes" from evolving a species outside of its "kind" then?

         
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No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.


How do you know there are separate "kinds" when you can't even tell how many "kinds" are in an Order like the Chiroptera?

You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Umm, timmy, do you think changes in eye color explains the eye? There aren't any known micro evolutionary events that can be added together to produce new body plans requiring new body parts. Anti-biotic resistance has no chance of explaining the vast leap from proks to eukaryotes.


As expected chickenshit Joke makes his usual excuses, runs from the questions about his latest stupidity he can't answer.

BWAAAAK!  BWAAAK!   BWAAAK!

   
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And body plans are the key indicator of different archetypes, dickface. There aren't any known mechanisms capable of changing body plans. that is why Dr Behe relies on "God did it".


But you told us ID isn't about God.  Joke steps in his own stupidity once again.

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"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:44   

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You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Actually, it's getting pretty dull.  He needs some new material.

Yeah, watching him yell DICKFACE so many times does get boring.  Besides not being very bright Joke has no imagination.

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:44   

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You don't have a mechanism capable of producing the changes required. So that is the barrier, dipshit.

What mechanism allows for the vast changes within the "kind" then Joe?

How did the original "kind" of bats on the Ark, sorry, Designer's lab bench manage to evolve into the 1300 known bat species today?

It's called microevolution. Meaning changes to trait carrying genes along with recombination. Exactly what we observe and experiments demonstrate.


What barrier stops "changes to trait carrying genes" from evolving a species outside of its "kind" then?

         
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No ne knows how many different types of bat were originally designed. But evolution by design would easily explain rapid diversity given new niches.


How do you know there are separate "kinds" when you can't even tell how many "kinds" are in an Order like the Chiroptera?

You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Umm, timmy, do you think changes in eye color explains the eye? There aren't any known micro evolutionary events that can be added together to produce new body plans requiring new body parts. Anti-biotic resistance has no chance of explaining the vast leap from proks to eukaryotes.


As expected chickenshit Joke makes his usual excuses, runs for the questions about his latest stupidity he can't answer.

BWAAAAK!  BWAAAK!   BWAAAK!

   
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And body plans are the key indicator of different archetypes, dickface. There aren't any known mechanisms capable of changing body plans. that is why Dr Behe relies on "God did it".


But you told us ID isn't about God.  Joke steps in his own stupidity once again.

Once again timmy proves it is a willfully ignorant asshole. And I didn't say ID was about God. YOU brought up Dr Behe accepting Common Descent. I am telling you the mechanism he says it occurred by.

Unable to read for comprehension- ie illiterate.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:45   

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You're making up this dumb shit as you go Joke and looking more like a fool with every post.  :D  Please , keep the entertainment coming!

Actually, it's getting pretty dull.  He needs some new material.

Yeah, watching him yell DICKFACE so many times does get boring.  Besides not being very bright Joke has no imagination.

And what has tiny timmy ever added to any discussion beyond acting like a 5 year old brat?

Do tell

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 15 2018,15:46   

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Loci that are obviously variable within natural populations do not seem to lie at the basis of many major adaptive changes, while those loci that seemingly do constitute the foundation of many if not most major adaptive changes are not variable.- John McDonald, “The Molecular Basis of Adaptation: A Critical Review of Relevant Ideas and Observation”, Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics: 14, 1983, p77-102 (bold added)


Different genes involved. That is why micro doesn't add up to macro

Nonsensical non answer noted.

Chickenshit Joke dodges the question again.  Maybe he mistook it for a salad.   :D

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"CO2 can't re-emit any trapped heat unless all the molecules point the right way"
"All the evidence supports Creation baraminology"
"If it required a mind, planning and design, it isn't materialistic."
"Jews and Christians are Muslims."

- Joke "Sharon" Gallien, world's dumbest YEC.

  
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