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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:22   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:23   

keiths continues to puke all over himself when it comes to nested hierarchies. And even though it has been proven that Doug Theobald is totally wrong keiths continues to reference him on nested hierarchies. Theobald wrongly spews:

Quote
The only known processes that specifically generate unique, nested, hierarchical patterns are branching evolutionary processes.


WRONG! Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Clearly Theobald is ignorant of nested hierarchies. He goes on to spew:  

Quote
It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested groupings


Umm, TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

But Doug's biggest mistake was saying that phylogenies form a nested hierarchy- they don't as explained in the Knox paper-  “The use of hierarchies as organizational models in systematics”, Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 63: 1–49, 1998.

And for fuck's sake even Darwin knew that if you tried to include all of the alleged transitional forms you couldn't form distinguished groups:    

Quote
Extinction has only defined the groups: it has by no means made them; for if every form which has ever lived on this earth were suddenly to reappear, though it would be quite impossible to give definitions by which each group could be distinguished, still a natural classification, or at least a natural arrangement, would be possible.- Charles Darwin chapter 14



Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups- again see Linnaean Taxonomy. AND nested hierarchies are artificial constructs.

So only by cherry picking would Common Descent yield a nested hierarchy.

And I understand why the losers here don't want to discuss it.

Zachriel, Alan Fox and John Harshman are also totally ignorant when it comes to nested hierarchies. Now I know why I was banned from the skeptical zone- so I couldn't refute their nonsense to their faces. This way they can continue to ignore reality and prattle on like a bunch of ignoramuses.

Sad, really. Here is another hint from the Knox paper:

Quote
Regardless of what is eventually learned about the evolution of Clarkia/Heterogaura, the complex nature of evolutionary processes yields patterns that are more complex than can be represented by the simple hierarchical models of either monophyletic systematization or Linnaean classification.


Notice the either or at the end? Only Linnaean classification is the objective nested hierarchy with respect to biology. And what does UC Berkley say about Linnaean classification?:  

Quote
Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species, which, among other possibilities, has the handy mnemonic King Philip Came Over For Good Soup. This system was created long before scientists understood that organisms evolved. Because the Linnaean system is not based on evolution, most biologists are switching to a classification system that reflects the organisms' evolutionary history.



and
 
Quote
*The standard system of classification in which every organism is assigned a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. This system groups organisms into ever smaller and smaller groups (like a series of boxes within boxes, called a nested hierarchy).


It was based on a common design scheme.

--------------
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simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

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Joe G



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Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:25   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:22)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

The meltdown is all yours.

Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.

All you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine. That says it all. Dickie.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:28   

Quote
ID isn't advancing.


You are confused as it is your position that isn't advancing



Quote
You've changed no minds at all.


If your ignorance was an argument that would mean something
Quote
ID sees you as a liability.

Again with the projection. I am sure that evolutionary biologists see you and yours as a huge liability. Thanks to you and yours ID is gaining traction and doing more than OK.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Richardthughes



Posts: 11116
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:30   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:22)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
 
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

The meltdown is all yours.

Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.

All you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine. That says it all. Dickie.

Sure you could, "I could understand anything any man can do" powerlifter.


Oh wait, I've seen what you look like and the quality of thoughts in your writing.  No one is buying that, you small yappy dog of a man.

--------------
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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:40   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:30)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:22)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

The meltdown is all yours.

Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.

All you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine. That says it all. Dickie.

Sure you could, "I could understand anything any man can do" powerlifter.


Oh wait, I've seen what you look like and the quality of thoughts in your writing.  No one is buying that, you small yappy dog of a man.

Easily, Dickie. Just show your face in front of mine and it will be a done deal.

And as for quality- LoL! Your posts don't have any except for quality TARD. Thoughts? You don't have any original thoughts and can only parrot the party line. You are an embarrassment to all humans.

The fact that all you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine says it all, Dickie.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:43   

keiths continues to puke all over himself when it comes to nested hierarchies. And even though it has been proven that Doug Theobald is totally wrong keiths continues to reference him on nested hierarchies. Theobald wrongly spews:

Quote
The only known processes that specifically generate unique, nested, hierarchical patterns are branching evolutionary processes.


WRONG! Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Clearly Theobald is ignorant of nested hierarchies. He goes on to spew:  

Quote
It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested groupings


Umm, TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

But Doug's biggest mistake was saying that phylogenies form a nested hierarchy- they don't as explained in the Knox paper-  “The use of hierarchies as organizational models in systematics”, Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 63: 1–49, 1998.

And for fuck's sake even Darwin knew that if you tried to include all of the alleged transitional forms you couldn't form distinguished groups:    

Quote
Extinction has only defined the groups: it has by no means made them; for if every form which has ever lived on this earth were suddenly to reappear, though it would be quite impossible to give definitions by which each group could be distinguished, still a natural classification, or at least a natural arrangement, would be possible.- Charles Darwin chapter 14



Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups- again see Linnaean Taxonomy. AND nested hierarchies are artificial constructs.

So only by cherry picking would Common Descent yield a nested hierarchy.

And I understand why the losers here don't want to discuss it.

Zachriel, Alan Fox and John Harshman are also totally ignorant when it comes to nested hierarchies. Now I know why I was banned from the skeptical zone- so I couldn't refute their nonsense to their faces. This way they can continue to ignore reality and prattle on like a bunch of ignoramuses.

Sad, really. Here is another hint from the Knox paper:

Quote
Regardless of what is eventually learned about the evolution of Clarkia/Heterogaura, the complex nature of evolutionary processes yields patterns that are more complex than can be represented by the simple hierarchical models of either monophyletic systematization or Linnaean classification.


Notice the either or at the end? Only Linnaean classification is the objective nested hierarchy with respect to biology. And what does UC Berkley say about Linnaean classification?:  

Quote
Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species, which, among other possibilities, has the handy mnemonic King Philip Came Over For Good Soup. This system was created long before scientists understood that organisms evolved. Because the Linnaean system is not based on evolution, most biologists are switching to a classification system that reflects the organisms' evolutionary history.



and
 
Quote
*The standard system of classification in which every organism is assigned a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. This system groups organisms into ever smaller and smaller groups (like a series of boxes within boxes, called a nested hierarchy).


It was based on a common design scheme.



It is very telling that the AtBC ilk are too chicken-shit to respond

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Richardthughes



Posts: 11116
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,10:45   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:40)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:30)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:22)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
   
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

The meltdown is all yours.

Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.

All you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine. That says it all. Dickie.

Sure you could, "I could understand anything any man can do" powerlifter.


Oh wait, I've seen what you look like and the quality of thoughts in your writing.  No one is buying that, you small yappy dog of a man.

Easily, Dickie. Just show your face in front of mine and it will be a done deal.

And as for quality- LoL! Your posts don't have any except for quality TARD. Thoughts? You don't have any original thoughts and can only parrot the party line. You are an embarrassment to all humans.

The fact that all you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine says it all, Dickie.

Yes Joe. We've danced this dance before. Parking lot. Still got egg on your face, silly billy.

--------------
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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Acartia_Bogart



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Joined: Sep. 2014

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:00   

This Joe train wreck is one for the record books. It has provided me with hours of amusement.

  
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:01   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:45)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:40)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:30)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,10:22)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:07)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,09:48)
     
Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,09:41)
     
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,09:06)
You don't know jack about me, asshole. You and yours are the arrogant,pompous assholes and abusive jerks, moron. You are all liars for Darwin and scientifically illiterate bitches.

Grow up and buy a vowel, loser.

You have to feel sorry for Joetard.  It must be tough for him living with both severe Dunning-Kruger and Asperger Syndrome.

Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

And Dickie throws his shit into this and pretends he is better than everyone else. Strange that I have also proven that you are a scientifically illiterate moron, too, Dickie.

But I do understand why that has you so upset.

Your meltdown just proves my point.

ID isn't advancing.
You've changed no minds at all.
ID sees you as a liability.


Why not do something you're good at? Teach electrical engineering or something.

The meltdown is all yours.

Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.

All you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine. That says it all. Dickie.

Sure you could, "I could understand anything any man can do" powerlifter.


Oh wait, I've seen what you look like and the quality of thoughts in your writing.  No one is buying that, you small yappy dog of a man.

Easily, Dickie. Just show your face in front of mine and it will be a done deal.

And as for quality- LoL! Your posts don't have any except for quality TARD. Thoughts? You don't have any original thoughts and can only parrot the party line. You are an embarrassment to all humans.

The fact that all you can do is lie, bluff and quote-mine says it all, Dickie.

Yes Joe. We've danced this dance before. Parking lot. Still got egg on your face, silly billy.

Chicken-shit. Quote-mining bitch. Lying loser and bluffing idiot.

That's you, Dickie.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:02   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Feb. 12 2018,11:00)
This Joe train wreck is one for the record books. It has provided me with hours of amusement.

Look, moron, you don't have any place to talk. You are another proven lying faggot.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Richardthughes



Posts: 11116
Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:05   

Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:08   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:09   

keiths continues to puke all over himself when it comes to nested hierarchies. And even though it has been proven that Doug Theobald is totally wrong keiths continues to reference him on nested hierarchies. Theobald wrongly spews:

Quote
The only known processes that specifically generate unique, nested, hierarchical patterns are branching evolutionary processes.


WRONG! Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Clearly Theobald is ignorant of nested hierarchies. He goes on to spew:  

Quote
It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested groupings


Umm, TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

But Doug's biggest mistake was saying that phylogenies form a nested hierarchy- they don't as explained in the Knox paper-  “The use of hierarchies as organizational models in systematics”, Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 63: 1–49, 1998.

And for fuck's sake even Darwin knew that if you tried to include all of the alleged transitional forms you couldn't form distinguished groups:    

Quote
Extinction has only defined the groups: it has by no means made them; for if every form which has ever lived on this earth were suddenly to reappear, though it would be quite impossible to give definitions by which each group could be distinguished, still a natural classification, or at least a natural arrangement, would be possible.- Charles Darwin chapter 14



Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups- again see Linnaean Taxonomy. AND nested hierarchies are artificial constructs.

So only by cherry picking would Common Descent yield a nested hierarchy.

And I understand why the losers here don't want to discuss it.

Zachriel, Alan Fox and John Harshman are also totally ignorant when it comes to nested hierarchies. Now I know why I was banned from the skeptical zone- so I couldn't refute their nonsense to their faces. This way they can continue to ignore reality and prattle on like a bunch of ignoramuses.

Sad, really. Here is another hint from the Knox paper:

Quote
Regardless of what is eventually learned about the evolution of Clarkia/Heterogaura, the complex nature of evolutionary processes yields patterns that are more complex than can be represented by the simple hierarchical models of either monophyletic systematization or Linnaean classification.


Notice the either or at the end? Only Linnaean classification is the objective nested hierarchy with respect to biology. And what does UC Berkley say about Linnaean classification?:  

Quote
Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species, which, among other possibilities, has the handy mnemonic King Philip Came Over For Good Soup. This system was created long before scientists understood that organisms evolved. Because the Linnaean system is not based on evolution, most biologists are switching to a classification system that reflects the organisms' evolutionary history.



and
 
Quote
*The standard system of classification in which every organism is assigned a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. This system groups organisms into ever smaller and smaller groups (like a series of boxes within boxes, called a nested hierarchy).


It was based on a common design scheme.

Dickie is too chicken-shit to respond

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:09   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,08:48)
Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

You want him to flounder?

  
Joe G



Posts: 5428
Joined: July 2007

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:10   

Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 12 2018,11:09)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,08:48)
Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

You want him to flounder?

EvoTARDs flounder, Henry. Buy a vowel...

--------------
Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Richardthughes



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Joined: Jan. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:20   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,11:21   

Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 12 2018,11:09)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,08:48)
Without being mean, he throws a lot of his life into this, gets flustered and doesn't really achieve anything. Has he considered fishing?

You want him to flounder?

He should get his skates on.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,12:07   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,12:12   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Feb. 12 2018,12:07)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,10:25)
Look I could easily kick your ass in a fight.

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on science

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on evolution

I could easily kick your ass in a debate on ID

And I could very easily kick your ass in a debate comparing ID to evolutionism.


Well, that's something that I can't unsee.

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,12:49   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,12:50   

keiths continues to puke all over himself when it comes to nested hierarchies. And even though it has been proven that Doug Theobald is totally wrong keiths continues to reference him on nested hierarchies. Theobald wrongly spews:

Quote
The only known processes that specifically generate unique, nested, hierarchical patterns are branching evolutionary processes.


WRONG! Linnaean Taxonomy is an objective nested hierarchy and it doesn't have anything to do with branching evolutionary processes. Corporations can be placed in objective nested hierarchies and again they have nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes. The US Army is a nested hierarchy and it too has nothing to do with branching evolutionary processes.

Clearly Theobald is ignorant of nested hierarchies. He goes on to spew:  

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It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested groupings


Umm, TRANSITIONAL FORMs have combined characteristics of different nested groups, Dougy. And your position expects numerous transitional forms.

But Doug's biggest mistake was saying that phylogenies form a nested hierarchy- they don't as explained in the Knox paper-  “The use of hierarchies as organizational models in systematics”, Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, 63: 1–49, 1998.

And for fuck's sake even Darwin knew that if you tried to include all of the alleged transitional forms you couldn't form distinguished groups:    

Quote
Extinction has only defined the groups: it has by no means made them; for if every form which has ever lived on this earth were suddenly to reappear, though it would be quite impossible to give definitions by which each group could be distinguished, still a natural classification, or at least a natural arrangement, would be possible.- Charles Darwin chapter 14



Nested hierarchies require distinct and distinguished groups- again see Linnaean Taxonomy. AND nested hierarchies are artificial constructs.

So only by cherry picking would Common Descent yield a nested hierarchy.

And I understand why the losers here don't want to discuss it.

Zachriel, Alan Fox and John Harshman are also totally ignorant when it comes to nested hierarchies. Now I know why I was banned from the skeptical zone- so I couldn't refute their nonsense to their faces. This way they can continue to ignore reality and prattle on like a bunch of ignoramuses.

Sad, really. Here is another hint from the Knox paper:

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Regardless of what is eventually learned about the evolution of Clarkia/Heterogaura, the complex nature of evolutionary processes yields patterns that are more complex than can be represented by the simple hierarchical models of either monophyletic systematization or Linnaean classification.


Notice the either or at the end? Only Linnaean classification is the objective nested hierarchy with respect to biology. And what does UC Berkley say about Linnaean classification?:  

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Most of us are accustomed to the Linnaean system of classification that assigns every organism a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species, which, among other possibilities, has the handy mnemonic King Philip Came Over For Good Soup. This system was created long before scientists understood that organisms evolved. Because the Linnaean system is not based on evolution, most biologists are switching to a classification system that reflects the organisms' evolutionary history.



and
 
Quote
*The standard system of classification in which every organism is assigned a kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. This system groups organisms into ever smaller and smaller groups (like a series of boxes within boxes, called a nested hierarchy).


It was based on a common design scheme.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:13   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:14   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

Thank you for proving my point, cupcake.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:22   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,13:14)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

Thank you for proving my point, cupcake.

So many meltdowns from you, Joe.

Over a decade.
Banned from most fora
Around 10 sock puppets
Zero minds changed
Canned from 1 job
Bazillion meltdowns.

You could have learned piano, or to program, or something good in that time.

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:23   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

You sad fucks started jacking-off while typing "550 Main St., Keene, NH". And all the while you were screaming "I got you know mother fucker!!!11!1!!1!"


m
a
n
i
p
u
l
a
t
i
o
n

at its finest

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:25   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:22)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,13:14)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

Thank you for proving my point, cupcake.

So many meltdowns from you, Joe.

Over a decade.
Banned from most fora
Around 10 sock puppets
Zero minds changed
Canned from 1 job
Bazillion meltdowns.

You could have learned piano, or to program, or something good in that time.

And moar projection from the masturbator.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:31   

Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,13:23)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

You sad fucks started jacking-off while typing "550 Main St., Keene, NH". And all the while you were screaming "I got you know mother fucker!!!11!1!!1!"


m
a
n
i
p
u
l
a
t
i
o
n

at its finest

And you totally played us by having a meltdown. AMIRITE?

Great use of your time, Joe. Looking like a manchild to fool us. JOKES ON US!

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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:31)
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,13:23)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,13:13)
 
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,12:49)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:20)
   
Quote (Joe G @ Feb. 12 2018,11:08)
   
Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 12 2018,11:05)
Stop melting down, Joe. It's Monday morning. Grab a coffee, go for a walk, enjoy yourself. You're getting worked up for no reason and I feel bad for you.

LoL! I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.

You assfaces got the egging, Dickie. And the meltdown is still all yours you clueless bitch.

Go back and read the threads. That's not what happened. You typed a lot in that period - if anyone was manipulated it was you.


Bless.

Dickie, that is exactly what happened.

http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....st=2430

You sad fucks started jacking-off while typing "550 Main St., Keene, NH". And all the while you were screaming "I got you know mother fucker!!!11!1!!1!"


m
a
n
i
p
u
l
a
t
i
o
n

at its finest

And you totally played us by having a meltdown. AMIRITE?

Great use of your time, Joe. Looking like a manchild to fool us. JOKES ON US!

The meltdowns were all yours- you and the evoTARD minions.

I manipulated untold numbers of evoTARDs into looking up "550 Main St,. Keene, NH". And one TARD went so far as to write a letter to the Keene schools.


You losers were jerking off while looking up that address.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:39   

You sad fucks started jacking-off while typing "550 Main St., Keene, NH". And all the while you were screaming "I got you now mother fucker!!!11!1!!1!"

It's OK, Dickie, everyone noes.

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Chromosomes. are. all. connected. It is one long polymer. Called the DNA. - oleg t

simple English (hint: "equal" and "interchangeable" aren't synonyms)- JohnW

Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

I usually underestimate my abilities

   
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