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Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,14:00   

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More on memristors in action — including, crossbar networks and solving linear equation arrays
February 9, 2018 Posted by kairosfocus


I'm sure that's a high quality lecture right there, buddy.

Is a fishing reel involved?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,14:23   

not yet...

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,14:34   

It can't reach the epic, genius level lecture category until it contains:Lewontin; an exploded fishing real; an agit-prop accusation; Plato's cave; phrases like "self-referentially incoherent", "crooked yardstick", "plumb line", "self-evident truth"; and a bannination.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,14:49   

...And it'd be nice if he added Christendom sliding down the slippery slope of bestiality-marriage lubricated by Oil of Ad Hominem, finally lighting the Strawman of Soros...

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,15:14   

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...And it'd be nice if he added Christendom sliding down the slippery slope of bestiality-marriage lubricated by Oil of Ad Hominem, finally lighting the Strawman of Soros...

And don't forget the march of folly civilization sliding over the cliff to ruin on the rocks below.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,16:01   

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...And it'd be nice if he added Christendom sliding down the slippery slope of bestiality-marriage lubricated by Oil of Ad Hominem, finally lighting the Strawman of Soros...

And don't forget the march of folly civilization sliding over the cliff to ruin on the rocks below.

Featuring a map with arrows!

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,16:13   



wildcard, bitches!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,16:27   

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It can't reach the epic, genius level lecture category until it contains:Lewontin; an exploded fishing real; an agit-prop accusation; Plato's cave; phrases like "self-referentially incoherent", "crooked yardstick", "plumb line", "self-evident truth"; and a bannination.

Memristors will be able to do that in O(1) time, rendering kf obsolete.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,16:40   

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It can't reach the epic, genius level lecture category until it contains:Lewontin; an exploded fishing real; an agit-prop accusation; Plato's cave; phrases like "self-referentially incoherent", "crooked yardstick", "plumb line", "self-evident truth"; and a bannination.

Memristors will be able to do that in O(1) time, rendering kf obsolete.

How do you render the obsolete, obsolete?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,16:48   

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wildcard, bitches!

Are the Islamists still bobbing up and down between Iceland and Greenland?  They must be bloody freezing.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,17:25   

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J-MacFebruary 9, 2018 at 4:24 pm
BA77
Your related note or semi related doesn’t cut it, including the Shroud from Torino. You have created an illusion and keep looking for anything to support it while rejecting anything that contradicts your illusion…

By overwhelming people with irrelevant information repeating it many times you are actually trying to confirm Goebbels’ theory that “a lie repeated often enough becomes true..


lol

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,22:02   

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More on memristors in action — including, crossbar networks and solving linear equation arrays
February 9, 2018 Posted by kairosfocus


I'm sure that's a high quality lecture right there, buddy.


That's a thread for GaGa if ever I saw one.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 09 2018,22:24   

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More on memristors in action — including, crossbar networks and solving linear equation arrays
February 9, 2018 Posted by kairosfocus


I'm sure that's a high quality lecture right there, buddy.


That's a thread for GaGa if ever I saw one.

It’s only a matter of time before Joe shows up to give KF a colonoscopy with his big nose.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,09:08   

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Seversky, regarding:

“Yes, if there is no evidence of mind existing apart from the physical brain then it is reasonable to assume that the former is derivable solely from the properties of the latter.”

I don’t follow your reasoning here. We may never see vultures except where there is carrion, but it doesn’t follow that vultures are derived from carrion (as once flies were supposed to be derived from dead bodies). Even if one says that vulture bodies are built up entirely from proteins ingested from carrion (which wouldn’t be true, since presumably vultures at least occasionally drink some water), those specific proteins doesn’t dictate the form “vulture”. To get a vulture, you need more than carrion; you need vulture DNA and developmental processes. So it’s not true that a vulture is reducible to mere carrion, even though carrion is necessary for its existence.

Not a good analogy since we observe from the outset that vultures are physical entities separate from the carrion they eat.

I can’t rule out the possibility that there are disembodied intelligences somewhere contemplating the great mysteries of the Universe (or multiverse) but the only evidence I see is that the human mind is so closely correlated with the physical brain that the most reasonable inference is that the former is in some way a property of the latter. I’m not impressed with the suggestion that the brain is some sort of receiver like a radio or physical interface for some sort of disembodied consciousness. We have good theories which explain how electromagnetic radiation works and how it interacts with the antenna and circuitry of a radio and we can detect that radiation outside the receiver. If someone finds an equivalent theory of consciousness and can detect it outside the brain then I’m sure science will be happy to consider it but, until then, the assumption is that the mind is generated in some way by the physical brain.
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,09:53   

BatShit77 shows up to remind us that gay==NAMBLA:

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Of related interest to these complaints from the LGBT community,,
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“We are currently getting bombarded with complaints from our LGBT community about Ken Ham speaking on our campus,”

Is this ‘complaint’ from a child who grew up in a LGBT home:
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Daughter of famed sci-fi author reveals sexual horrors she suffered growing up in LGBT home
Excerpt: The Last Closet has been an Amazon bestseller for weeks as a Kindle e-book, and is scheduled to be published as a print book this month. Over one hundred readers have reviewed it, and virtually all have given it five stars.

The book recounts Greyland’s life with her mother, who was the author of The Mists of Avalon and many other famous works of science fiction and fantasy, and her father, Walter Breen, who was a world-renowned authority on numismatics. Both identified as “gay,” both abused drugs and were involved in occult practices, and both were pedophiles, Greyland says, a claim that has been confirmed by her only surviving brother.
The couple’s LGBT ideology was constantly imposed on the children by both parents. Greyland says that Zimmer Bradley expected her to take on masculine mannerisms and to become a lesbian, and was disappointed in her attraction to the opposite sex, accusing her of being a “breeder.” Greyland also had to hide from her parents her conversion to Christianity which would have been received with terrible derision.

Alarmingly, Greyland reveals that her parents’ sympathetic views of pedophilia and pederasty had been a public fact for decades, one known particularly among science fiction and fantasy fans who attended fan conferences. Science fiction fans documented Breen’s molestation of at least ten children by 1963, which had only resulted in his temporary exclusion from the largest science fiction fan convention, Worldcon, and was never reported to the police. Breen continued to attend conferences for many years afterward, baiting children he targeted with abuse with various science education gadgets that would attract their attention.

Greyland writes that Breen was an open member of the “North American Man-Boy Love Association,” and he saw his pederastic proclivities as a natural consequence of his homosexuality. He and Zimmer Bradley jointly published a journal on pederasty and pedophilia, The International Journal of Greek Love, in 1965 and 1966, and Zimmer wrote an article for it treating lesbian pedophilia in a positive manner.

As awareness grew of Breen’s molestation of children among Berkeley science fiction fans in 1963, a newsletter was published about the problem that came to be called the “Breendoggle,” which openly speculated that Zimmer Bradley was tolerant of Breen’s behavior. However, the truth about Zimmer Bradley’s own sexual abuse of her daughter did not come to light until 2014, when Greyland was asked about her parents’ connection to pedophilia by the blogger and science fiction writer Deirdre Saoirse Moen.

Greyland’s response, published in Moen’s blog, received heavy coverage by major media outlets worldwide, including The Washington Post, The Guardian, Die Welt, and Entertainment Weekly. Many fans and former acquaintances of Zimmer Bradley denounced her, and some even burned her books.

“The first time she molested me, I was three. The last time, I was twelve, and able to walk away,” wrote Moira Greyland of her mother.

“I put Walter in jail for molesting one boy. I had tried to intervene when I was 13 by telling Mother and [Zimmer Bradley’s girlfriend] Lisa, and they just moved him into his own apartment.”

“I had been living partially on couches since I was ten years old because of the out of control drugs, orgies, and constant flow of people in and out of our family ‘home.'”,,,
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news....growing

Also of note, the left thinks that a parade honoring our military is in very bad taste, yet thinks a LGBT parade, featuring naked men, openly simulating if not actually performing lewd acts, and women dressed as vaginas, is a very noble parade.
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“Gay Pride” Parades, Nudity, and Nihilism
Excerpt: Yet the picture of unity presented by the media belies the controversy over homosexual parades bubbling beneath the surface. Much of this centers around the nudity and simulated sex acts that are staples of such events and the double standard that allows for them in violation of local decency laws. As Peter LaBarbera writes about what he witnessed during Chicago “Pride” parades:

In 2004, a disgusting gay (oral-anal) sex act that was allowed to go on in the middle of the street (children were seen nearby) — right in front of a row of Chicago cops — involving two guys who were trying to get under the skin of a group of Christian protesters whom the cops were protecting;…
in 2007, a male transvestite (?) going topless with “his” breasts exposed for block after block as cops and parade organizers did nothing; see: http://americansfortruth.com/n.....a....de.html
lewd acts (e.g., simulated sodomy) and gyrating sexual dances on floats — including one by an apparent lesbian cop who appeared to be drunk or high, riding atop a Chicago PD float;
a contingent of sadomasochists marching in the parades as they do every year;
blatant anti-religious and anti-conservative bigotry on display — usually equating Christianity or the Catholic Church with “hate”;
after the 2007 parade, homosexual “pride” celebrants assaulted two peaceful men giving a Christian street witness in opposition to homosexuality; see http://americansfortruth.com/n.....a....e.html;
a homosexual bathhouse called “Steamworks,” which fields a float every year at the parade. Steamworks is a 24/7 sex club on Halsted Street in Boystown where men go for anonymous sexual liaisons with other men.
In his article LaBarbera points out that the young often witness the above and asks, “Should children attend lewd ‘Gay Pride’ parades?”

This also raises another serious question: The clarion call among homosexual activists has long been that they just want to be treated like everyone else. So will the authorities ever grant them their wish? As columnist Joe Warmington wrote in 2009 about Toronto’s homosexual parade:

“There is frequent nudity and mock sex acts on our main street and that is against the law.”

— Rev. Charles McVety

Will there be as many indecent exposure charges handed out this Gay Pride weekend as there will be parking tickets?,,,
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews....ihilism

Might I suggest that the left shaming a military parade that would honor our men in uniform as well as honoring our vets as being in very bad taste, while promoting and even ‘celebrating’ immoral LGBT parades is a sure sign that the left is completely out of touch with mainstream America?
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Romans 1:20-28
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,10:42   

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A thought on soul-body-spirit (and on the meaning of “death” in the Judaeo-Christian frame of thought)
February 11, 2018 Posted by kairosfocus under Artificial Intelligence, brains and computation vs contemplation, Minds, Science, Philosophy and (Natural) Theology, Science, worldview issues/foundations and society, Selective Hyperskepticism

{blah blah buncha crap but you should click to see the awesome diagrams}


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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 10:00 am
This is all well and good from a Christian theological perspective, but let’s get back to the ID perspective.

Nothing in ID suggests that we need a soul. The fact that humans have souls implies that they must have been part of the design. This being said, there is nothing other than various theistic teachings that tells us that the soul is immortal. We take this on faith. There is certainly nothing in ID that requires an immortal soul, or even a soul that is not 100% dependent on the material brain.

Talking about the soul and the immortal soul is certainly relevant to discussion on a theology web site. It adds nothing to serving the ID community unless we are conceding that ID is really about God.


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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 10:13 am
“Everything in ID says that living organisms are more than just matter, energy and what emerges from their interactions.”

Other than a designer, ID does not require that organisms are more than just matter, energy and what emerges from their interactions. A car is nothing more than the interactions of energy and matter. What distinguishes it from random matter is the design.

“If there is a soul, immortal or not, then ID is true.”

Then all we have to do is prove the existence of the soul. I believe in it, but I am a theist. And, I freely admit, that I rely on faith, not evidence, for this belief.


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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,15:45   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”

No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.

“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”

No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’

“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”

I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence.
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,16:34   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”

No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.

“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”

No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’

“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”

I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence.
[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/a-thought-on-soul-body-spirit-and-on-the-meaning-of-death-in-the-judaeo-christian-frame-of

-thought/#comment-651310]linky[/URL]

Finally, an IDist who won’t comment outside his competence level. Mullings should take the hint.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,16:43   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”

No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.

“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”

No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’

“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”

I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence.
[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/a-thought-on-soul-body-spirit-and-on-the-meaning-of-death-in-the-judaeo-christian-frame-of


-thought/#comment-651310]linky[/URL]

Finally, an IDist who won’t comment outside his competence level. Mullings should take the hint.

And take a vow of silence?

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 11 2018,20:37   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”

No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.

“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”

No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’

“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”

I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence.
[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/a-thought-on-soul-body-spirit-and-on-the-meaning-of-death-in-the-judaeo-christian-frame-of





-thought/#comment-651310]linky[/URL]

Finally, an IDist who won’t comment outside his competence level. Mullings should take the hint.

And take a vow of silence?

That would violate the Laws of Identity and Non-Contradiction and maybe even the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,13:41   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm
“We need to recognise what we are, before we can have a fruitful discussion . . . as has been demonstrated again and again for years here at UD.”

No, we have to convince those opposed to ID what we are before we can have a fruitful discussion. Otherwise we are just preaching to the choir. And we don’t get there by repeatedly talking about immortal souls, objective morality and the like. We get there by sticking to ID concepts that can be demonstrated empirically. That is why I asked the question about whether ID theory requires organisms to be more than the interaction of their designed arrangement of matter and energy.

“Repeatedly, the root problems lie in evolutionary materialistic scientism and its fellow travellers, not the strength of ID-supportive arguments.”

No, the root problems lie in the arguments we are presenting, and the way we present them. We keep telling everyone that ID is not about religion, and then keep talking about religion and other theological subjects on what is supposed to be an ID web site. To be completely honest, if I believed in evolution and came to this web site, or the other web sites that support ID, I would not take the arguments very seriously. ‘You are judged by the company you keep.’

“PS: What are your thoughts on the AI focus and where I think it points?”

I have not read them in any detail. AI is well beyond my area of competence.
[URL=https://uncommondescent.com/ethics/science-worldview-issues-and-society/a-thought-on-soul-body-spirit-and-on-the-meaning-of-death-in-the-judaeo-christian-frame-of








-thought/#comment-651310]linky[/URL]

Finally, an IDist who won’t comment outside his competence level. Mullings should take the hint.

And take a vow of silence?

That would violate the Laws of Identity and Non-Contradiction and maybe even the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,15:22   

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Molson BleuFebruary 11, 2018 at 9:24 pm
“And BTW, you are still missing on the AI thread — which is about why the focus not deep technical details. Which tells us something.”

Yes. It tells us that I don’t waste my time participating in discussions on subjects that I have no competence in. I have found that to be a wise strategy.


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Molson BleuFebruary 12, 2018 at 9:13 am
“Despite that, you have continued the pattern. I therefore now conclude for cause that you have little to contribute to serious and relevant discussion, save to provide distractive objections on what are important factors in the situation we face.”

Simply because I disagree with you, I have little to contribute? I have asked a very specific question with regard to ID theory which you have not answered. If you think that it is off topic, just say so and I won’t ask it again on this thread. But given that the OP is about the soul, something that is more than the designed arrangement of matter and energy, I don’t see how it is off topic. I will try to get an answer one more time and then leave it alone.

Does ID require that designed organisms be more than the interactions of their designed arrangement of matter and energy? I am not asking whether you think human life is more than this, I am asking if ID theory requires this? Arguing that humans have to be more than this just to be able to have this discussion, which I agree with, does not answer the question. Does ID theory require a bacteria, or starfish, or a sponge, to be more than their designed arrangement of matter and energy?

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 12 2018,16:25   

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Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,

Cole's Law? What's thinly sliced cabbage got to do with it?

  
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Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,

Cole's Law? What's thinly sliced cabbage got to do with it?

instant rimshot

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2018,06:25   

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Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,

Cole's Law? What's thinly sliced cabbage got to do with it?

It's nutritionally superior to word salad.

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2018,09:29   

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Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 12 2018,16:25)
 
Quote (KevinB @ Feb. 12 2018,12:41)
Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,

Cole's Law? What's thinly sliced cabbage got to do with it?

It's nutritionally superior to word salad.

Sure, but does it have as much fiber?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2018,10:54   

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Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,


How old are you?

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
-JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2018,16:05   

I have been following the discussion between Molson Bleu, Mullings and that idiot Joe over at UD. Are Frankie/Joe/ET/Virgil and Mullings intentionally playing dumb, stringing Molson along, or are they really as stupid as their comments suggest?

link

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 13 2018,16:55   

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Not to mention Nasse's Law, Burke's Law and Cole's Law,


How old are you?

I was born two days after Sputnik 1's batteries ran out.

I'm not really quite old enough to have watched it first time round.

  
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