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|Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 04 2018,19:03)|
Molson BleuFebruary 4, 2018 at 10:02 am
“However, KF is certainly one who often debates fundamental ID topics, and not only more general issues.”
Very true. And I commend him for that. But he is also one of the first to be led off on hundred comment tangents by ID opponents. I have gone back over many of the recent long threads and he has been drawn into long arguments over things like abortion, pedophile rings, subjective morality, radical Islam, homosexuality, to just name a few. I’m sure that I am not the only one to have noticed this. I am certain that our opponents have. My friendly advice to him would simply be to refrain from taking the bait. And I don’t want to centre KF out because there are several others also guilty of readily taking the bait.
“It’s not clear why our more valid interlocutors should be so shy as soon as important biological ID topics are discussed, while they are often so ready to intervene about religion, morals, politics, and so on.”
I think that it is obvious. They take pleasure in seeing what types of non ID discussions they can draw ID proponents into. And given the fact that the majority of ID proponents are religious, they stick to the tried and true religious hot button topics. Things like abortion, morality, homosexuality, and the like.
The solution to this problem is simple. Don’t participate in every tangent or every provocation instigated by our opponents. Make them address ID on its merits rather than play into their distraction tactics. Sadly, I am not confident that this advice will be heeded.
IOW, UD would be ever so much more sciencey if it weren't for those meddling kids who make Barry and Gordo write up all those distracting OPs and tags.
If it weren't for them, we'd be talking about all the new advances in ID Science from the ground breaking pioneers Dembski and Behe. Or the latest recycled-third-book-whining about evolution from Wells or Meyer. Or Sewell's stunning new take on thermodynamics that demonstrates grass cannot grow. Or any of the other explosive research coming out of science journal number two, or three, or was it four?
"So I'm a pretty unusual guy and it's not stupidity that has gotten me where I am. It's brilliance."
"My brain is one of the very few independent thinking brains that you've ever met. And that's a thing of wonder to you and since you don't understand it you criticize it."