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utidjian Posts: 185 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:14    Nakashima, this one... I like! :D       Quote Rabbit egg + human DNA, combined in a particular way = human stem cells, the contradiction of Wells, and the limerick of Nakashima! -DU- You linky is busticated (lets see if this works): Nope... can't get it to work. -------------- Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory

noncarborundum Posts: 320 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:15    Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 31 2011,15:58)   Quote (noncarborundum @ Mar. 31 2011,14:46)   Quote (utidjian @ Mar. 31 2011,08:46) Heh Carlsonjok I just skimmed that thread at  UD you (tiny)linked to. None of the commenters there 5 years ago are still active. We know what happened to d'Tard but what about the rest of them? -DU- Doesn't UD have one person capable of writing a limerick that scans?  Aaugh, the assault on my refined poetic sensibilities! You didn't like Nakashima's? :( [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/ic-all-the-way-down-the-grand-human-evolutionary-discontinuity-and-probabilistic-resources /#comment-342358]http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-342358[/URL] I take it all back. -------------- "The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

Freddie Posts: 371 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:16    Quote (didymos @ Mar. 31 2011,13:44) William J. Murray tries to help.  He fails:     Quote BTW, any CSI or FSCO/I analysis only makes a provisional finding of “best explanation” under current knowledge. As PaV’s example shows, we can find false negatives all the time simply by not knowing about the pattern that a sequence describes; it might appear totally random until we find the pattern (in cryptanalysis, that would be the “key”) that reveals the functional specificity of the sequence. So, basically if one suspects design in the first place, one can then determine if some string actually is designed.  That'd probably require some sort of background knowledge about the prime designer suspect, I'd imagine.  But wow, that CSI sure is useful, I tell you what!  Oh, but wait: what if the pattern is actually due to some totally natural but unknown regularity? Well shucks. ETA: stupid URL mangling. Oh wow ... JoeG just linked to his own blog on that thread.  This could cause some Friday meltdown fun when KF follows that one ... -------------- Joe: Most criticisims of ID stem from ignorance and jealousy. Joe: As for the authors of the books in the Bible, well the OT was authored by Moses and the NT was authored by various people. Byers: The eskimo would not need hairy hair growth as hair, I say, is for keeping people dry. Not warm.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:18    gordon doesn't read anything anybody writes, other than himself, and that while smelling his own undies -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:27    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 31 2011,22:18) gordon doesn't read anything anybody writes, other than himself, and that while smelling his own undies Quote and that while smelling his own undies Nothing wrong with that... Damn, I'm scoring on those last pre-thousand posts! -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:29    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 31 2011,16:27) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 31 2011,22:18) gordon doesn't read anything anybody writes, other than himself, and that while smelling his own undies Quote and that while smelling his own undies Nothing wrong with that... Damn, I'm scoring on those last pre-thousand posts! You have to blow your own trumpet a bit: http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....p=49993 -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:31    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,22:29) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 31 2011,16:27) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 31 2011,22:18) gordon doesn't read anything anybody writes, other than himself, and that while smelling his own undies   Quote and that while smelling his own undies Nothing wrong with that... Damn, I'm scoring on those last pre-thousand posts! You have to blow your own trumpet a bit: http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....p=49993 I'll go for something lighter. Less screaming, at least. -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:32    Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 31 2011,16:31) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,22:29) Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Mar. 31 2011,16:27)   Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 31 2011,22:18) gordon doesn't read anything anybody writes, other than himself, and that while smelling his own undies   Quote and that while smelling his own undies Nothing wrong with that... Damn, I'm scoring on those last pre-thousand posts! You have to blow your own trumpet a bit: http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....p=49993 I'll go for something lighter. Less screaming, at least. I forget, you joined ADE (after DaveTard Era). -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Schroedinger's Dog Posts: 1692 Joined: Jan. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,16:40    Ok, fair enough. I have joined quite late, but have been a lurker for some time. This here is my 999th post, si I plan on doing something special for the next one. I won't Davetardise, or JoeGise, or even Mabusise. I'll do me own shite. When the time is right... -------------- "Hail is made out of water? Are you really that stupid?" Joe G "I have a better suggestion, Kris. How about a game of hide and go fuck yourself instead." Louis "The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit" Richard Pryor

Cubist Posts: 558 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,17:31    Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 31 2011,06:37) John A. Davison is alive and well and spamming ISCID, which is also alive, but isn't doing nearly as well.  In fact, JAD seems to be the only one who has posted there since 2010.   He's trying to sell his book.  The title of the book is "Unpublished Evolution Papers of John A. Davison". Except that now they're published, so the title is no longer accurate. I love it so! P.S. Lulu is a "book on demand" vanity publisher.  Anybody with a few hundred bucks in his pocket can become a published author at Lulu.  If you want to buy a copy, they print one for you on the spot and mail it to you.  They've actually published some books worth buying. Beggin' yer pardon, but Lulu doesn't charge any money up front. As you say, it's a 'print on demand' outfit; this means they don't actually print up a copy of a book until someone orders a copy. How Lulu makes its money is not by the author paying them up front, but, rather, by taking a nontrivial percentage of the cover price of any copies which actually do sell. So yes, Lulu will publish anything -- they just happen to have a business model that's closer to traditional publishing (i.e., all money is extracted from sales of books) than to vanity publishing (i.e., the author pays all costs).

dvunkannon Posts: 1377 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,17:32    Quote (noncarborundum @ Mar. 31 2011,17:15) Quote (dvunkannon @ Mar. 31 2011,15:58)   Quote (noncarborundum @ Mar. 31 2011,14:46)     Quote (utidjian @ Mar. 31 2011,08:46) Heh Carlsonjok I just skimmed that thread at  UD you (tiny)linked to. None of the commenters there 5 years ago are still active. We know what happened to d'Tard but what about the rest of them? -DU- Doesn't UD have one person capable of writing a limerick that scans?  Aaugh, the assault on my refined poetic sensibilities! You didn't like Nakashima's? :( [URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/ic-all-the-way-down-the-grand-human-evolutionary-discontinuity-and-probabilistic-resources /#comment-342358]http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-342358[/URL] I take it all back. And don't miss Nakashima's revelation of Aristotle in 136 of that thread, one of the most religious moments of UD, which is, you know, not about anything religious. http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-341671 -------------- I’m referring to evolution, not changes in allele frequencies. - Cornelius Hunter I’m not an evolutionist, I’m a change in allele frequentist! - Nakashima

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,17:41    Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 31 2011,07:08) This is interesting. Quote MathGrrl March 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm eric, [snip] By the way, it has come to my attention that there is another person using the MathGrrl pseudonym, and her use actually predates mine. I am not the MathGrrl that comes up first in a Google search (I’m leaving her name out deliberately so as not to associate us in the search engines). Please don’t harass her because of anything I’ve said. Perhaps we were wrong about her identity. Maybe mathgrrl is a sock for Janie-Belle. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,17:55    Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 31 2011,15:41) Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 31 2011,07:08) This is interesting.   Quote MathGrrl March 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm eric, [snip] By the way, it has come to my attention that there is another person using the MathGrrl pseudonym, and her use actually predates mine. I am not the MathGrrl that comes up first in a Google search (I’m leaving her name out deliberately so as not to associate us in the search engines). Please don’t harass her because of anything I’ve said. Perhaps we were wrong about her identity. Maybe mathgrrl is a sock for Janie-Belle. "Socks within socks, man. Socks within socks." -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,17:56    It doesn't matter to me who MathGrrl is because she got Ban Immunity from Dense and that's all that counts. Thanks to Dense we have documentation of the most stupid of the stupid discussion of ID evah!  Breathtaking inanity doesn't begin to describe the machinations of the ud'ders to even come up with a consistent definition of SCI, much less calculate a value. OMG, the tard is so thick that I think Dense looks a lot like Angelina Jolie and she's hot for me, I can tell!  Pardon me, folks, but I'm off to commit some sins against nature. Yo, Dense, what's your sign?

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,18:26    Quote (Doc Bill @ Mar. 31 2011,23:56) It doesn't matter to me who MathGrrl is because she got Ban Immunity from Dense and that's all that counts. Thanks to Dense we have documentation of the most stupid of the stupid discussion of ID evah!  Breathtaking inanity doesn't begin to describe the machinations of the ud'ders to even come up with a consistent definition of SCI, much less calculate a value. OMG, the tard is so thick that I think Dense looks a lot like Angelina Jolie and she's hot for me, I can tell!  Pardon me, folks, but I'm off to commit some sins against nature. Yo, Dense, what's your sign? Most. Emetic. Comment. Evar. This is worse a page of blue waffles and lemon parties. Just no. No. NO! Louis -------------- Bye.

utidjian Posts: 185 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,18:48    Looks like the UDiots were busy listening to a debatey-baity between WL Craig and Lawrence Krauss. Online_debate In the discussion at UD linkage much hilarity and tardity ensues. I watched it also and Krauss seemed a bit scattered and disorganized. As if he drank too much dense coffee. If he is going to get into debates with tards he should practice a bit more. His talks are much better when not batting tardisms. -DU- -------------- Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory

Wolfhound Posts: 468 Joined: June 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,18:52    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,17:29) You have to blow your own trumpet a bit: If he could do that, he'd never leave the house. -------------- I've found my personality to be an effective form of birth control.

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,19:51    Hey, Louis, I would so do Dense! She's probably got enough Canadian hair that she lost a ring down there. I'll find it and I'll find more! Moar. I'll hire a giraffe if necessary. Louis, you pussy!

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 31 2011,20:06    oh no make no mistake, it would do you you would not do it.  the stick up it's ass is a double ender eta  if you don't believe me look at it's posts.  nobody wants to engage it.  FEAR, SON.  FEAR.  what else could explain the last 10 or so drippingly stupid blag posts that have no more than 2 max and most 0 comments.  for fucks sake gordon mullings posts would at least get "WTF is all this rot, mate" from some of the crankier inmates.  Tranmaws shit gets nada.  FEAR, SON. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,00:15    Quote (Cubist @ Mar. 31 2011,17:31)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Mar. 31 2011,06:37) John A. Davison is alive and well and spamming ISCID, which is also alive, but isn't doing nearly as well.  In fact, JAD seems to be the only one who has posted there since 2010.   He's trying to sell his book.  The title of the book is "Unpublished Evolution Papers of John A. Davison". Except that now they're published, so the title is no longer accurate. I love it so! P.S. Lulu is a "book on demand" vanity publisher.  Anybody with a few hundred bucks in his pocket can become a published author at Lulu.  If you want to buy a copy, they print one for you on the spot and mail it to you.  They've actually published some books worth buying. Beggin' yer pardon, but Lulu doesn't charge any money up front. As you say, it's a 'print on demand' outfit; this means they don't actually print up a copy of a book until someone orders a copy. How Lulu makes its money is not by the author paying them up front, but, rather, by taking a nontrivial percentage of the cover price of any copies which actually do sell. So yes, Lulu will publish anything -- they just happen to have a business model that's closer to traditional publishing (i.e., all money is extracted from sales of books) than to vanity publishing (i.e., the author pays all costs). My mistake.  I thought they charged a setup fee to get your data on their hard drive, but evidently not. I'm not knocking Hulu, it's a good place for books that are never going to be commercial (which would include everything JAD has ever written).   I bought three books from Hulu by a guy who got the reprint rights to the old "Carl and Jerry" stories published in Popular Electronics back in the fifties and sixties.  Instant nostalgia!  Took me back to my high school days, which made me think of Rhonda Whittinger which  made me think of the day her skirt spontaneously self-disassembled which for some truly odd reason made me think of Louis which made me cry because I don't want to be Welsh!

Louis Posts: 6436 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,03:21    1) I am not Welsh.* 2) Dense O'Dreary. No. There are some paraphilia that are not merely excusable perversions but are genuine pathologies. Odrearophilia is not only morally wrong, not only is it a sickness, it is criminal. Engaging in acts of conjugal unpleasantness, and they could be nothing but unpleasant, with someone who makes those posts is punishable by the death penalty. Don't make me call Homeland Security. They have a special number for people like you. Louis -------------- Bye.

paragwinn Posts: 539 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,04:10    DocBill, do you have an exit strategy? is there an Emergency Response Team ready? have you notified your next of kin? -------------- All women build up a resistance [to male condescension]. Apparently, ID did not predict that. -Kristine 4-19-11 F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11 Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

Amadan Posts: 1337 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,05:01    Quote (Zachriel @ Mar. 31 2011,20:54) Quote (noncarborundum @ Mar. 31 2011,14:08) Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 31 2011,08:31)    However, I did come across a post that surely is the (still) high water mark for Uncommon Descent. Behold!  Dembski at his finest! I hadn't seen this before:     Quote (dembski @ Dec. 18 2006,18:21) Calm yourselves everybody. An enhanced flatulent version is being worked on at this very moment. I will make it available. I do want to say this for the record, however. Many people regard the flatulent version as unsophisticated and even infantile. I want to suggest that in this postmodern age the flatulence in this animation actually serves as a sophisticated rhetorical device that mirrors the subtext of flatulence that runs throughout Judge Jones’s decision. Anyone know if such an "enhanced flatulent version" ever saw the light of day? Also, flatulence as "sophisticated rhetorical device"?  Really? Here's some rhetoric for ya. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs Pathetic Level of Methane. -------------- "People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011 JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

didymos Posts: 1828 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,05:16    Clivebaby sets us straight: Quote Natural Selection and random mutations don’t explain anything about the complex organisms. Ah yes: the JoeG school of debate. -------------- I wouldn't be bothered reading about the selfish gene because it has never been identified. -- Denyse O'Leary, professional moron Again "how much". I don't think that's a good way to be quantitative.-- gpuccio

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,06:39    Is this O'Dreary's dumbest post ever? If you click on go here for more, it doesn't get any better.

Raevmo Posts: 235 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,07:01    Quote (CeilingCat @ April 01 2011,06:39) Is this O'Dreary's dumbest post ever? Nah, par for the course -------------- After much reflection I finally realized that the best way to describe the cause of the universe is: the great I AM. --GilDodgen

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,08:22    Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,21:51) Quote (olegt @ Mar. 31 2011,13:43) I figured out that String 1 was designed. Didn't have time to point it out. String 1 has 112 ones and 80 zeros. An excess of 32 from the mean is pretty large: 2.3 standard deviations (the square root of 192, or about 14). String 2 is more even, 107 ones and 85 zeros. That's an excess of 1.6 standard deviations. PaV's rant about 500 bits is stupid. It's an arbitrary cutoff. DrDr could have declared 100 bits the CSI bound and it would be as good. 500 bits is supposed to come from the 10^150 of the UPB. I don't but that - but even if I did, as I told Joe: part of the 10^150 is 10^80, for the number of particles in the observable universe. But 'the observable universe' <> the universe. And even that 10^80 is acknowledged as being a lowball estimate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Matter_content "A typical star has a mass of about 2×1030 kg, which is about 1×1057 atoms of hydrogen per star. A typical galaxy has about 400 billion stars so that means each galaxy has 1×1057 × 4×1011 = 4×1068 hydrogen atoms. There are possibly 80 billion galaxies in the universe, so that means that there are about 4×1068 × 8×1010 = 3×1079 hydrogen atoms in the observable universe. But this is definitely a lower limit calculation, and it ignores many possible atom sources such as intergalactic gas.[42]" In Dembski dumbness levels the least to the most is CSI CoIL UPB. Who is he to determine the "UPB". The gall of the prick. I'm sure it sells well on Sunday morning but he hasn't the foggyist. Count all the particles in earths ecosphere let that be Some Big Number (SBM). Now since evolution is a state machine with a 3.5by history with countless states we will call that Some Other Big Number (SOBM). OK now what is the chance photo synthesis started on earth? Well that chance is 100%. Thus SMB/SOBM * 100% = 1/O(ther) Therefore the inverse of god = Other. Mutiply by M Mother != God Q.E.D. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,08:51    Quote (k.e.. @ April 01 2011,06:22) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,21:51)   Quote (olegt @ Mar. 31 2011,13:43) I figured out that String 1 was designed. Didn't have time to point it out. String 1 has 112 ones and 80 zeros. An excess of 32 from the mean is pretty large: 2.3 standard deviations (the square root of 192, or about 14). String 2 is more even, 107 ones and 85 zeros. That's an excess of 1.6 standard deviations. PaV's rant about 500 bits is stupid. It's an arbitrary cutoff. DrDr could have declared 100 bits the CSI bound and it would be as good. 500 bits is supposed to come from the 10^150 of the UPB. I don't but that - but even if I did, as I told Joe: part of the 10^150 is 10^80, for the number of particles in the observable universe. But 'the observable universe' <> the universe. And even that 10^80 is acknowledged as being a lowball estimate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Matter_content "A typical star has a mass of about 2×1030 kg, which is about 1×1057 atoms of hydrogen per star. A typical galaxy has about 400 billion stars so that means each galaxy has 1×1057 × 4×1011 = 4×1068 hydrogen atoms. There are possibly 80 billion galaxies in the universe, so that means that there are about 4×1068 × 8×1010 = 3×1079 hydrogen atoms in the observable universe. But this is definitely a lower limit calculation, and it ignores many possible atom sources such as intergalactic gas.[42]" In Dembski dumbness levels the least to the most is CSI CoIL UPB. Who is he to determine the "UPB". The gall of the prick. I'm sure it sells well on Sunday morning but he hasn't the foggyist. Count all the particles in earths ecosphere let that be Some Big Number (SBM). Now since evolution is a state machine with a 3.5by history with countless states we will call that Some Other Big Number (SOBM). OK now what is the chance photo synthesis started on earth? Well that chance is 100%. Thus SMB/SOBM * 100% = 1/O(ther) Therefore the inverse of god = Other. Mutiply by M Mother != God Q.E.D. Logic impeccable; grave danger. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,08:56    No fair, olegt used maths.  That's not ID. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: April 01 2011,08:59    Quote (fnxtr @ April 01 2011,16:51) Quote (k.e.. @ April 01 2011,06:22) Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 31 2011,21:51)   Quote (olegt @ Mar. 31 2011,13:43) I figured out that String 1 was designed. Didn't have time to point it out. String 1 has 112 ones and 80 zeros. An excess of 32 from the mean is pretty large: 2.3 standard deviations (the square root of 192, or about 14). String 2 is more even, 107 ones and 85 zeros. That's an excess of 1.6 standard deviations. PaV's rant about 500 bits is stupid. It's an arbitrary cutoff. DrDr could have declared 100 bits the CSI bound and it would be as good. 500 bits is supposed to come from the 10^150 of the UPB. I don't but that - but even if I did, as I told Joe: part of the 10^150 is 10^80, for the number of particles in the observable universe. But 'the observable universe' <> the universe. And even that 10^80 is acknowledged as being a lowball estimate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Matter_content "A typical star has a mass of about 2×1030 kg, which is about 1×1057 atoms of hydrogen per star. A typical galaxy has about 400 billion stars so that means each galaxy has 1×1057 × 4×1011 = 4×1068 hydrogen atoms. There are possibly 80 billion galaxies in the universe, so that means that there are about 4×1068 × 8×1010 = 3×1079 hydrogen atoms in the observable universe. But this is definitely a lower limit calculation, and it ignores many possible atom sources such as intergalactic gas.[42]" In Dembski dumbness levels the least to the most is CSI CoIL UPB. Who is he to determine the "UPB". The gall of the prick. I'm sure it sells well on Sunday morning but he hasn't the foggyist. Count all the particles in earths ecosphere let that be Some Big Number (SBM). Now since evolution is a state machine with a 3.5by history with countless states we will call that Some Other Big Number (SOBM). OK now what is the chance photo synthesis started on earth? Well that chance is 100%. Thus SMB/SOBM * 100% = 1/O(ther) Therefore the inverse of god = Other. Mutiply by M Mother != God Q.E.D. Logic impeccable; grave danger. I WANT MY POST OF TEH WEEK! -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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