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| Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ July 01 2008,10:33) | | Quote (lcd @ July 01 2008,10:15) | | Quote (Nerull @ July 01 2008,09:31) | You are no better.
"Kinds" seems to be your only point. And that's pretty sad.
You don't even know how evolution is supposed to work, do you? The only thing you know are the lies you've been told.
It's not "Poof!". And its not quick morphs between stable states - its a constant state of change.
As for transitional fossils - we find them all the time. You've simply closed your eyes and refuse to see.
If you acknowledge that e. coli. changed, than you must acknowledge evolution. The micro .vs macro evolution thing is a strawman used only by the least intelligent, much like the thermodynamics thing. There is no difference. Small changes over time add up to very big changes.
Is your car a horse cart? No? Yet it was developed by a series of small changes. It is your belief that small changes can never amount to big changes, is it not? |
Nerull? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerull
I take it you play DnD. How do you like 4.0? I like 3.5 much better.
Not much better? Okay.
Evolution works by animals changing. New species being made (and you've seen this when?) from old ones. The gain of information, somehow, from mutations that are almost always fatal. Interesting that there's some gain of information when it is so easily seen when codes get muddled and broken, the information in DNA, the result is a loss of information.
Transitional Fossil? Where?
Oh, so no "Poof". Well, in the class I was at, we learned about "Punctuated Equilibrium". Wow. There's a novel approach. Things happen so fast that there are no fossils and this is from an evolutionist (rest his soul and may God forgive him and his atheism)! So Evolution doesn't need Transitional Fossils now! Again, where are these "transitional fossils"?
Well the E. Coli changed but it's still E. Coli! So there's no evolution. They may have had a trait come in from being dormant but how is that evolution when the culture is still E Coli?
The Horse Cart to a Car. good analogy. At each point in the design was there intelligence doing the changes. Which is what ID is all about.
The predictive power of ID is powerful as it is simple:
When systems become so complex that one parts falls away, it stops working so how does it get to be in the first place? The answer, "It was designed that way". |
| Quote | | The gain of information, somehow, from mutations that are almost always fatal. Interesting that there's some gain of information when it is so easily seen when codes get muddled and broken, the information in DNA, the result is a loss of information. |
Please tell me how much "information" there is in a particular organism that you choose.
Then please tell me how you have determined
a) The amount of information in that organism
b) What units this "information" is measured in
c) How you determined the amount of information in the organism you chose.
d) How you measured the decease or loss of information.
I don't believe you can even prove that there is information in a organism, let alone prove that a measurable loss occurred. Can you?
I ask again, what units is this information loss (when codes get muddled and broken) measured in? |
I heard someone using "bits" to measure that, although I after I asked more about it (how do you measure it, where does it come from, where are the publications about it, etc etc) it became awfully silent as usual. The only "bits" I've ever seen in something actually scientific, was in an online sequencing program (I think BLAST but I'm not sure) a while ago. Can't remember exactly in wich context though.
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