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Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,13:04    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 23 2008,10:50) Just wanted to quote DS' latest in full before he sobers up and fixes it     Quote tragicmishap ID is as ready as chance & necessity. Maybe more. We can at least prove that intelligent agents can cause complex specified information to appear where none existed before. Look at it like a murder case where we need to show means and opportunity. Chance & necessity - we can show opportunity but not means. In other words, we can place the alleded perpetrator at the scene of the crime but we can’t prove it had the means to commit the crime. Intelligent design - we can means but not opportunity. In other words, we can show that intelligent designers can cause highly improbable specified changes to heritable genetic material but we can’t prove the perpetrator was at the scene of the crime. As far as I’m concerned that puts chance & necessity and intelligent design on equal footing. Preferring one over the other is a matter of dogma not science. Plus the assertion that for a scientific theory to be falsified requires a replacement theory is a dog that doesn’t hunt. That is not part of any philosophy of science that I ever heard of. It’s a lame assertion made by chance worshippers and nothing more. Tard How deluded is DS? Very When I first started reading this, I thought, "how long til Dave uses his buzzword 'chance worshipper'?" I was not disappointed. Quote a dog that doesn’t hunt. Ah, Dave uses one of his homespun Texanisms. Looks like we're heading toward a trifecta here. How long til he says "mud to man"? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,13:08    I'm curious about motives. What was the perp's motive for making all the cool disease organisms? Not just making them, but also providing them with the foresight™ with which to modify themselves in response to human attempts to evade their horrors. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,13:28    [/URL] -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,20:56    Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ June 23 2008,20:50) Just wanted to quote DS' latest in full before he sobers up and fixes it   Quote tragicmishap ID is as ready as chance & necessity. Maybe more. We can at least prove that intelligent agents can cause complex specified information to appear where none existed before. Look at it like a murder case where we need to show means and opportunity. Chance & necessity - we can show opportunity but not means. In other words, we can place the alleded perpetrator at the scene of the crime but we can’t prove it had the means to commit the crime. Intelligent design - we can means but not opportunity. In other words, we can show that intelligent designers can cause highly improbable specified changes to heritable genetic material but we can’t prove the perpetrator was at the scene of the crime. As far as I’m concerned that puts chance & necessity and intelligent design on equal footing. Preferring one over the other is a matter of dogma not science. Plus the assertion that for a scientific theory to be falsified requires a replacement theory is a dog that doesn’t hunt. That is not part of any philosophy of science that I ever heard of. It’s a lame assertion made by chance worshippers and nothing more. Tard How deluded is DS? Very wow!!! This guy says it far more eloquently than me. Quote .......ID is often referred to as Creationism light. In fact it's more Creationism in drag. Though its proponents claim scientific neutrality, they are usually overtly religious people affiliated with overtly religious institutions. They have written essays and books about why ID is science. And yet when all the sophistry is boiled down, the theory amounts to "living things are complicated. Some-one must have made them." John Moore, from The National Pest, reviews Expelled: Dave Tard is a deeply insecure boy, he knows that if he makes a pact with his "god" ....who happens to be just like him, a dishonest creep but.... oh ....so ..nice... to..true..believers then there is a chance .....NO necessity of him being saved from all his bastardry. The Question Beggers circular arguement (I BELIEVE THERE MUST BE A GOD SO DISPARAGE THE FACTS TO FIT MY ASSUMPTION) ..will never let the truly deluded down...even when they are logically wrong. Dave Tard's birds of a feather constantly remind him he is truly truly truly a nice nice nice guy. EXCEPT WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR ....HOMO'S dt. all gods are a projection dt. you are just on the edge of your pathetic reality horizon...careful you don't fall off it. Please come back with some of your lame old tard before you lose your mind. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 23 2008,21:58    Quote ID is as ready as chance & necessity. Maybe more. We can at least prove that intelligent agents can cause complex specified information to appear where none existed before. So what about that burglar in Germany who left his cell phone at the house he broke into then went back and asked the owner for it back or the equally intelligent crim who was handcuffed by police who had just arrested him but managed to free himself then ran into a police station asking for them to be removed? OK most crims aren't that stupid but they can't break the law of cause and effect...<snicker> Dave you have to acknowledge equating a crime scene with some plainly stupid dishonest characters who hope to escape detection doesn't show a great deal of character for you or your 'god' or your projected version of him. Your god must be a despicable character all he had to do was come clean and put a monolith in DNA. INDEED GOD IS THE WORLDS BESTEST MASTER CRIMINAL HE GOT AWAY WITH THE CRIME OF THE UNIVERSE and WE CAN'T PROVE HE DID IT even though THE EVIDENCE IS LIFE ITSELF. dt Life is life that's all there is to it. Gods are completely optional and mere human delusions.     Quote Look at it like a murder case where we need to show means and opportunity. .....plus the real and actual scene ..the real and actual time of day...the  real and actual murder weapon..the real and actual manufacturer of the weapon...the real and actual trajectory of the bullet/knife/hammer...the real and actual DEAD VICTIM... the real and actual blood...EVIDENCE     Quote Chance & necessity - we can show opportunity but not means. In other words, we can place the alleded perpetrator at the scene of the crime but we can’t prove it had the means to commit the crime. FUCK MY BRAIN JUST LOOPED MOBIUS BACK -dt ....seriously dt get a hold of yourself you just changed hands.     Quote Intelligent design - we can means but not opportunity. In other words, we can show that intelligent designers can cause highly improbable specified changes to heritable genetic material but we can’t prove the perpetrator was at the scene of the crime. EVIDENCE ? WE DON'T NEED NO EVIDENCE! dt     Quote As far as I’m concerned that puts chance & necessity and intelligent design on equal footing. Preferring one over the other is a matter of dogma not science. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DOGMA + MOBIUS = CREATIONISM/ID=GOD EXISTS ......SO GODDITIT dt     Quote Plus the assertion that for a scientific theory to be falsified requires a replacement theory is a dog that doesn’t hunt. That is not part of any philosophy of science that I ever heard of. It’s a lame assertion made by chance worshippers and nothing more. OOOOPS PROJECTION AGAIN .....ID'S LAZY DOG LAME ASSERTION CAN'T REPLACE THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD SO WE CALL BILL'S ANGELS (GOP APPARATCHIKS) TO GIVE US A DIRECT LINE TO DOG & GWB dt -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

oldmanintheskydidntdoit Posts: 4999 Joined: July 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,02:54    Pav Notes Quote This is a typical result of evolutionary algorithm…..and, as they point out, this is NOT how an engineer would build such a network. The “pared down” version, however, is what you would expect an engineer/designer to come up with, and, I rather strongly suspect, is the type of network that biological experimenters come up with when they start examining organisms for such genetic networks. Bottom-line: networks aren’t the product of chance. Will somebody put him out of his misery and let him know the bad news? It seems to me that there's a chance for a "conversion" to reality here for PaV. Link -------------- I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies". FTK if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot stand Gordon Mullings

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,06:54    Thomas Cudsworthy chews his worthy cud, and clarifies things:     Quote ...TEs could say:  “Well, we are Christians, so of course we believe that these apparently chance events were divinely foreordained and therefore are not ultimately chance events.  Our goal is not to deny the ultimate agency of God, but only to establish that the design of living things, though certainly in the mind of God at the beginning of the world’s creation, is not humanly DETECTABLE, as the ID proponents say it is....   Given this argument, both ID and TE acknowledge that living creatures are in fact designed by God and brought into being exactly in accord with God’s will.  The difference that remains between TE and ID is not over metaphysics but over epistemology, i.e., over the question:  How do we KNOW that the flagellum or the wing of a bird or the circulatory system is a consequence of design rather than chance? This must be a tremendous relief. SHOUT it from the ROOFTOPS boys! "ID ARGUES THAT LIVING CREATURES ARE DESIGNED AND BROUGHT INTO BEING EXACTLY IN ACCORD WITH GOD'S WILL!!" Now, don'tcha feel better? -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,08:05    Jesus God Joel Borofsky is dumber than stupid.   Long story made short:  evilutionists can't extract an ethic from scientific knowledge.   Really, that is what he is on about. In other news, creationist lies, whoremonglers whoremongle, fish swim and somewhere a baby has a shitty diaper.   Check out these arguments from those silly naturalists... Quote Naturalist Argument #1 – “This planet is the only one we have, therefore we need to do our best to protect it.” Naturalist Argument #2 – “In order to sustain the human species, it is in our best interest to save the environment.” Naturalist Argument #3 – “Since we all share a common ancestor, it makes sense to help our fellow creatures since we are all distant relatives.” Quote Some naturalistic ethicists have stated that all creatures are related and therefore all deserve equal rights, equal treatment, and equal protection (think of PETA). This view, though, simply doesn’t follow from a naturalistic perspective. We do not see this behavior in nature, thus it cannot be observed or proven scientifically. Erm, what behavior?  WTF. Money Shot Quote My next post (when I have time to write it) will deal with how Intelligent Design – specifically the Judeo-Christian version of it – provides adequate reasoning for protecting the environment.   -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,08:48    STOP LYING TO US!!!!!!11111oneoneone -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

fusilier Posts: 252 Joined: Feb. 2003 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,08:54    Quote My next post (when I have time to write it) will deal with how Intelligent Design – specifically the Judeo-Christian version of it – provides adequate reasoning for protecting the environment. So where the hell were the fundies* when the Cuyahoga River caught fire?   *Hint for the quiz:  James Watt -------------- fusilier James 2:24

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,09:22    Or any one of the myriad mine disasters, including recently a large boulder rolling down from a mountaintop removal site and crashing through the wall of a trailer, killing a child.   Act of God. Buffalo Creek Floods(coal slurry dam failure)?  Act of God. Martin County KY Coal Company slurry failure?  Act of God. So Fuck You Joel.  Kick these douchebags out of your big tent and then perhaps I'll lend a less deaf ear to your moaning about ethical claims.   Joel I realize is not very bright but JEsus that shit is painfully stupid to read. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,09:56    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 24 2008,07:22) So Fuck You Joel.  Kick these douchebags out of your big tent and then perhaps I'll lend a less deaf ear to your moaning about ethical claims.   Joel I realize is not very bright but JEsus that shit is painfully stupid to read. Joel needs to go back to what he's best at, and what we oldtimers remember him most fondly for, i.e., obsessing on the Biblical implications of the sexual habits of teenaged girls. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,10:02    Quote (fusilier @ June 24 2008,06:54)     Quote My next post (when I have time to write it) will deal with how Intelligent Design – specifically the Judeo-Christian version of it – provides adequate reasoning for protecting the environment. So where the hell were the fundies* when the Cuyahoga River caught fire?   I think what Joel is saying is that while Judeo-Christian ID provides an adequate foundation for environmentalism, Fundies are exercising their free will by rejecting environmentalism. It's all good. So why is Joel specifying "Judeo-Christian ID"? Just to make sure that we don't mix up the good stuff with Islamic or Atheist ID? -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,10:26    slatternatch do you have a link for the Joel Borofsky gold.  I only have vague memories of this affair and since there ain't jack shit going on around here today I might as well mine an old seam.  If'n you got one anyhoo. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,10:33    Ed Brayton found another one (easy Gary don't get your brass knuckles out).   God God sure is busy these days.  I figured he was just an ol hillbilly since most of his doings seem to be in the coalfields but I reckon he is getting bored or something, branching out to IA and whatall. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,11:13    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,June 24 2008,08:26) slatternatch do you have a link for the Joel Borofsky gold.  I only have vague memories of this affair and since there ain't jack shit going on around here today I might as well mine an old seam.  If'n you got one anyhoo. I'm not sure where to find the posts, but from about 20 minutes of trying to search within ATBC, most of the posts detailing Joel's fixation on the sexual proclivities of unsaved teenaged girls would appear to be within this thread, probably no later than early '07. If you're at work maybe you can spare the 1-2 hours it'd probably take to track them down.   -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

American Saddlebred Posts: 111 Joined: May 2005 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,13:36    I found a stevestory post about half way down the page asking to make a poll about creepiness. BTW, took me about 10 minutes.  It might be a few pages before that is starts, but this at least links to the vicinity of the whackiness. Joel creepiness. I will revise this as I hone in on the start =).

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,13:55    ah good catch horsey.  i found it under sternbergerstory link to hoohoos or something. can't log into STOPLYINGTWOUS anyone have a password to the inner sanctum of this ID fortress? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,14:56    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ June 24 2008,13:55) ah good catch horsey.  i found it under sternbergerstory link to hoohoos or something. can't log into STOPLYINGTWOUS anyone have a password to the inner sanctum of this ID fortress? Since you're trying to log onto a Joel Barfupsky site, I think you need to try the following as passwords: Dembski#1 Sweaters! Stop Making Me Cry Jesus Saves ID Is Hawt -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,15:01    Don't forget hoohoos. -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Kristine Posts: 3061 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,15:39    Quote (Texas Teach @ June 24 2008,14:01) Don't forget hoohoos. And also "Dawkins! Dawkins, Dawkins, Dawkins! Arrrrg, Dawkins! Peer-reviewed papers! Arg! Best selling booktourlecturecircuitstandingovations, grrr! Simyoni endowment! Chair! Wife looks fab! Grrrraarrg! Evidence! Grrroooowwwl..." I think it might work as a username, too. ("The Darwinists would never think of that! Hee hee, hoo hah.") Um, look at this.   Quote I read about how women should decide whether or not they should date a man based upon what he eats. [Nice excuse, Joel.] I learned that it’s okay that men are becoming less masculine. [I consider creationism to be suckily effeminate myself.] I learned that having an affair will make your relationship better (thankfully the writer of this ‘article’ is appalled at such a statement). I then learned that sex within marriage is now having to be defined as “married sex” and is somehow viewed as less than ideal. From the same article, it appears that sex within marriage on a regular basis is just absent. All of this leaves me wondering – what went wrong with American society? What happened to the moral fortitude that shunned having an affair (at least among the average middle class Americans)? ["At least among the average middle class Americans"?] What happened to manhood in the United States? Why is sex within marriage considered a weird concept? [Who says it is?] Why are marriages evaluated on how much sex the couple has rather than their fidelity and trust toward one another? Joel, why don't you put down the binoculars and back away from the attic window for a while? -------------- Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip? AtBC Poet Laureate "I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive "Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,15:43    I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,15:50    Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,15:43) I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. Are you suggesting an Open Puppet Call to spark things up? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,15:51    Quote (Texas Teach @ June 24 2008,15:01) Don't forget hoohoos. Do we hafta use all that scientific jargon all the time? -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,16:04    Quote (J-Dog @ June 24 2008,15:50) Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,15:43) I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. Are you suggesting an Open Puppet Call to spark things up? Puh-lease! Poochy, Punchy, Peachy, Pinchy.. get on it. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,16:36    Quote (Texas Teach @ June 24 2008,13:01) Don't forget hoohoos. 'dimwit', 'nebbish' and 'closet case' are also probably worth a try. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,16:42    Quote (Kristine @ June 24 2008,13:39) Um, look at this.       Quote I read about how women should decide whether or not they should date a man based upon what he eats. [Nice excuse, Joel.] I learned that it’s okay that men are becoming less masculine. [I consider creationism to be suckily effeminate myself.] I learned that having an affair will make your relationship better (thankfully the writer of this ‘article’ is appalled at such a statement). I then learned that sex within marriage is now having to be defined as “married sex” and is somehow viewed as less than ideal. From the same article, it appears that sex within marriage on a regular basis is just absent. All of this leaves me wondering – what went wrong with American society? What happened to the moral fortitude that shunned having an affair (at least among the average middle class Americans)? ["At least among the average middle class Americans"?] What happened to manhood in the United States? Why is sex within marriage considered a weird concept? [Who says it is?] Why are marriages evaluated on how much sex the couple has rather than their fidelity and trust toward one another? Joel, why don't you put down the binoculars and back away from the attic window for a while? Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but even Denyse knows more about sex* than Joel. [*that horrible image is my gift to my buddies at ATBC. HA-ha!] -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

Chayanov Posts: 289 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,17:28    Quote (J-Dog @ June 24 2008,15:50) Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,15:43) I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. Are you suggesting an Open Puppet Call to spark things up? I've been considering doing that for a while, but the mere thought of spending any amount of time at UD makes me feel nauseous. -------------- Help! Marxist literary critics are following me!

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,20:23    Quote (Chayanov @ June 24 2008,17:28) Quote (J-Dog @ June 24 2008,15:50) Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,15:43) I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. Are you suggesting an Open Puppet Call to spark things up? I've been considering doing that for a while, but the mere thought of spending any amount of time at UD makes me feel nauseous. Ha!  You nailed it!  I have barely recovered from the last time.   All praise to Poachy for keyboarding in the Full HazMat Jacket for so long. Maybe we could do some recruiting at Schizo's Are Us Blog?  Seems like they might have been selected designed for it. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: June 24 2008,20:52    Quote (Richardthughes @ June 24 2008,15:43) I must admit, UD has been poor entertainment of late. Sadly true, which is why I started commenting at Telic Thoughts again (as 'robin'). In my brief tenure there (I've been banned), I mined a few good tard seams: ID and Morality: Watch as good, upstanding Christians defend the morality of Bible verses such as these: Quote If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity. (Deuteronomy 25:11-12, NIV) Quote If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. (Exodus 21:20-21, NIV) Trained Microbes!: Joy gloats over a paper in Science: Quote Yeah, I know I'm being smug here. I've had a bit of a rough spring out in the real world, so it feels pretty good to 'win' something for a change... So, Culture Warriors. What say you about this evidence of intelligent design in life and evolution? Is this science? Should the researchers be expelled from academia for heresy? Should the journal Science be taken to task and forced to issue a retraction? ...until Raevmo and I point out what the paper actually says, and Joy stops gloating and decides that the authors are dogmatic Darwinists after all. Evidence and Truth: Mike Gene explains why evidence is overrated. Speak Your Mind: I accept the invitation and speak my mind regarding Salvador Cordova's behavior in the blogosphere, asking TTers whether they approve of it.  None of the ID supporters can bring themselves to express approval -- or disapproval.  Except for DaveScot, who says he disapproves of the quotemining but approves of the way Sal "bends over backwards trying not to offend anyone"! To make Sal feel better, Bradford offers this: Quote Salvador, you're not Attila the Hun and I've witnessed much, much worse on the web and in person during my life. Long-time tardaholics know that it is good to have a back-up supply in case your primary source runs dry.  Telic Thoughts will never match the pure, uncut tard at UD, but it's better than withdrawal. -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

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