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That thread just gets better and better. KF contrasts the Wikipedia entry on ID with The New World Encyclopedia's longer and much more flattering ID entry and approves the latter without mentioning that the N.W.E. is a Moony publication, started by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, who believed he was Jesus Christ on the Second Coming. (Moon probably doesn't believe that any more, since he's dead.)
Then J-Mac wows the crowd by revealing that he doesn't believe that the soul is immortal. KF reminds him, "JM, you raise an old debate. Though this is not a thread about theology much less exegesis, and this blog is not about theology, it is worth a pause to give some balance. In C1, the Sadducees and Pharisees had disputes on the matter:" and goes on with a bit of exegesis and theology, complete with Bible quotes.
J-Mac replies with
, thus keeping his entry alive in the "I'm a bigger asshole than Mung" contest.
|True… which you and many others have never been able to to provide sound and logical evidence for your calims to be true…|
You claims insult the God of justice but that is not my judgment… thank God…
Have a nice life!
This leads KF to haul out the heavy heavenly artillery and reply with a big fat
Then .... Holy Shit! It's the J-Mac quote that started this whole thing:
|18 J-Mac December 15, 2017 at 3:53 pm|
I like you…I mean it…
You remind me of me when I couldn’t see through my blindness…
BTW: Would you burn your kids alive, if they disobeyed you?
I seem to have completely mis-understood this this thread, which is still more evidence that Darwin's edifice is crumbling under ID's relentless attack. Mea culpa!
J-Mac goes on with, "Kf can’t answer this challenge @18 because it violates the the very principles of his real faith…", KF replies with, "JM, have you stopped beating your wife?" and goes on to soar to intellectual heights only attainable by someone who has spent a LOT of time standing out in the tropical sun:
|PS: While again this is not a theology forum or thread, it seems a balancing pointer or two will be helpful for those inclined to follow up seriously in appropriate fora. If you are making a twisted and somewhat erroneous Internet gnu atheist style allusion to OT law against incorrigible juvenile delinquents [in an era without police forces etc], you should know that OT case law and civil codes or ceremonial rules and traditions have been understood for 2,000 years as not relevant. Kindly read the report of the AD 49 Jerusalem Council in Ac 15, and note how it affects Alfred’s Book of Dooms — a significant root of the common law tradition. Note too how the decalogue is understood i/l/o the neighbour love principle in say Rom 13:8 – 10.|
PPS: Kindly, read the OP to see what is focal for this thread. False accusations running amok can easily destroy reputations, careers, families, lives. The current one on sexual harassment claims for example seems to have had at least two suicides so far, both apparently of men who despaired of being able to defend their innocence in a climate of multiple unsupported accusation is tantamount to proof. The Wiki case that has been headlined above, shows how incorrigible malice can come to dominate a major reference institution that millions naively turn to for what they imagine is a credible account. I hope we don’t end up with someone feeling he has nothing left to lose and applying rule 303 to journalists, but that is a predictable consequence of weaponised accusations run amok. Of course, should that happen, it will lead to doubling down. Yet another sign of how our civilisation is heading over the cliff in a march of utterly ruinous folly.
PPPS: Running off on irrelevant tangents and attempted thread-jacking through such, is a sign of trollishness. UD’s management has a short way with trolls. There is enough of substance to discuss within UD’s ambit without resort to atmosphere poisoning tactics. I also add that in my present condition and with the things on my table locally, I do not have a lot of time or energy to spend on moderating threads.
The thread just gets better from there, with insults, invitations to leave the thread issued to J-Mac, a recapitulation of the whole Wiki vs N.W.E. affair, a visit from rvb8 with quotations from Phillip E. Johnson on what ID really is and much, much more.
I'd quote some more, but I have to go and repent now.