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Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2012,16:16    Quote (Drdrdrdrdurp @ back then) This may seem like a bad thing (it sure would be nice to be invited to those wine-and-cheese parties at the Templeton Foundation), but I submit it is a good thing. It keeps us honest. We don�t have to play nice with Darwin because our livelihoods are at stake. Moreover, it will make the ultimate victory of ID all that much sweater*. my bold "butthurt arrogance that durp could patent" FTW *FTFY HTH HAND Edited by Erasmus, FCD on Mar. 15 2012,17:16 -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

carlsonjok Posts: 3326 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2012,16:33    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 15 2012,16:16) Quote (Drdrdrdrdurp @ back then) This may seem like a bad thing (it sure would be nice to be invited to those wine-and-cheese parties at the Templeton Foundation), but I submit it is a good thing. It keeps us honest. We don�t have to play nice with Darwin because our livelihoods are at stake. Moreover, it will make the ultimate victory of ID all that much sweater*. my bold "butthurt arrogance that durp could patent" FTW *FTFY HTH HAND You would think he would be a little more grateful given that Templeton gave him a cool 100G and never delivered a book in return. -------------- It's natural to be curious about our world, but the scientific method is just one theory about how to best understand it. �We live in a democracy, which means we should treat every theory equally. - Steven Colbert, I Am America (and So Can You!)

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2012,16:38    Quote (carlsonjok @ Mar. 15 2012,14:33) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 15 2012,16:16) Quote (Drdrdrdrdurp @ back then) This may seem like a bad thing (it sure would be nice to be invited to those wine-and-cheese parties at the Templeton Foundation), but I submit it is a good thing. It keeps us honest. We don�t have to play nice with Darwin because our livelihoods are at stake. Moreover, it will make the ultimate victory of ID all that much sweater*. my bold "butthurt arrogance that durp could patent" FTW *FTFY HTH HAND You would think he would be a little more grateful given that Templeton gave him a cool 100G and never delivered a book in return. I suspect this was written just after he got his fifth "Oi!  Dembo!  Where's our bleedin' book?" email from them. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

sparc Posts: 2088 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 15 2012,23:30    Why is this big news at EN&V?   Quote We knew his bushy eye brows before. -------------- "[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God." - William Dembski -

DiEb Posts: 312 Joined: May 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,02:58    At So the Evolutionary Informatics Lab has been �debunked� � by no one worth listening to?, Winston Ewert (listed at Dembski's evolutionlab.com as a �Research Assistant with a BS in Computer Science, but I think he is a MS) engaged critics directly, and encouraged them to present their objections:   Quote But if you have a thought-out written response or critique, feel free to send it to me at evoinfo AT winstonewert DOT com. I can�t promise anything in terms of a response, but I will read and consider anything sent.   Quote For typographical errors and minor mathematical mistakes, please just contact me by email directly and we�ll post corrections giving you credit. For more major critiques, I�d suggest writing them up as blog posts or paper-style pdfs. Let me know where they are, and I�ll read them. Now he seems to be dragged �back on the party line:   Quote This is a poor venue, and we look forward to seeing formal published articles critiquing our work. It is strange to us that we haven�t seen formal published responses. There are various responses in the literature to Dembski�s previous books such as No Free Lunch. Somehow our published articles have not provoked the same response. Well, they won't. As I wrote in my mail in which I provided Winston Ewert with a basic example of something wrong in their papers: Quote Why won't it appear even at archive.org? For a couple of reason: the math of the essay is to obvious, boring and simple - enough perhaps for a "letter to the editor". there isn't enough interest in "Active Information" outside of a couple of blogs and message boards. Well, Winston Ewert has promised me to look at my paper-style pdf when he finds the time...

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,04:39    Hands up if you want to see some concentrated stupid. You do? Headline Editorial Comment

Soapy Sam Posts: 659 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,07:10    I is a original eternal living humanity person. (Here's hoping on the eternal bit). But it was all made for Whitey. He only need women because you can't have men out of men. That would be gross, and God don't do gross. There'd just be all this sperm if He dint create women to put it in. -------------- SoapySam is a pathetic asswiper. Joe G BTW, when you make little jabs like “I thought basic logic was one thing UDers could handle,” you come off looking especially silly when you turn out to be wrong. - Barry Arrington

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,08:17    fucking drunks -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

utidjian Posts: 185 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,09:19    Since there isn't the usual level of the UD discussion here... I started to get withdrawal symptoms (clarity of thought, getting work done, hugging kids, being kind to pets, liquor evaporating rather than being metabolized (cold turkey is mean!)) and went over to UD for just a taste.Wow have things dried up over there! It kinda reminds me of a mall near where I live. All the quality stores moved out, even the McDonalds! So all that is left of that mall (some dozen acres) is a coffee shop. No tumble weeds blowing through but there is some sad bit of bunting from an Xmas season and a sales flyer and food wrapper or two. Then there are the bare mannequins in dusty windows that sometimes seem to move when one is not looking at them directly. A deserted mall is a sad and spooky place. Well over at UD there is someone talking to the mannequins. Didn't paulmc get the memo? I suppose the mall building super/security guard will emerge from his dingy office eventually and ban paulmc. I wonder when they will bulldoze the place, or perhaps it will just get overgrown with weeds and crumble away. -DU- -------------- Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory

OgreMkV Posts: 3668 Joined: Oct. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,10:05    Quote (utidjian @ Mar. 16 2012,09:19) Since there isn't the usual level of the UD discussion here... I started to get withdrawal symptoms (clarity of thought, getting work done, hugging kids, being kind to pets, liquor evaporating rather than being metabolized (cold turkey is mean!)) and went over to UD for just a taste.Wow have things dried up over there! It kinda reminds me of a mall near where I live. All the quality stores moved out, even the McDonalds! So all that is left of that mall (some dozen acres) is a coffee shop. No tumble weeds blowing through but there is some sad bit of bunting from an Xmas season and a sales flyer and food wrapper or two. Then there are the bare mannequins in dusty windows that sometimes seem to move when one is not looking at them directly. A deserted mall is a sad and spooky place. Well over at UD there is someone talking to the mannequins. Didn't paulmc get the memo? I suppose the mall building super/security guard will emerge from his dingy office eventually and ban paulmc. I wonder when they will bulldoze the place, or perhaps it will just get overgrown with weeds and crumble away. -DU- Do you think they'd let us have paintball tournaments in that empty mall? My old local mall had a JCPenny and 5 shoe stores.  Even the Dairy Queen left and, for Texas, that's serious. -------------- Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims. http://skepticink.com/smilodo....retreat

midwifetoad Posts: 4003 Joined: Mar. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,10:13    The new mall is plenty busy. -------------- Any version of ID consistent with all the evidence is indistinguishable from evolution.

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,10:25    Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 16 2012,10:13) The new mall is plenty busy. I give KF two more weeks - tops - until he tries to comment at the new mall again instead of talking about it at the ghost mall. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,10:34    as long as you keep cruising around the parking lot of the old shitty mall, looking for rentboys, they'll keep hiring security Edited by Erasmus, FCD on Mar. 16 2012,11:37 -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,11:13    Quote (Kattarina98 @ Mar. 16 2012,08:25) Quote (midwifetoad @ Mar. 16 2012,10:13) The new mall is plenty busy. I give KF two more weeks - tops - until he tries to comment at the new mall again instead of talking about it at the ghost mall. Any place where gordo doesn't have total control and some sheeple to preach to is of course a fever swamp to him, and I'm sure that entering the new mall is a terrifying thought for such a sniveling coward, although he might do a hit and run there at times. If he does he will undoubtedly spew his usual sanctimonious vomit and get all pissy like a sissy when his sermon isn't worshiped as the words of a god. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Kattarina98 Posts: 1267 Joined: Sep. 2009 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,11:31    He might be in two minds; of course he loves to control discussions. OTOH, he craves an audience, and his audience has migrated elsewhere. -------------- Barry Arrington is a bitch.

REC Posts: 638 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,16:03    I saw this title at another site and had to peek. Without comment, from news: Quote Will climate change end up replacing Darwinian evolution as the factor that explains everything? Just listen to this: <quoted from article> Climate is believed to be the driving force behind most of these evolutionary processes, including geographical range change. It dictates which species are where at what time, driving their geographical spread or contraction.

utidjian Posts: 185 Joined: Oct. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,16:17    Quote (OgreMkV @ Mar. 16 2012,10:05) Quote (utidjian @ Mar. 16 2012,09:19) Since there isn't the usual level of the UD discussion here... I started to get withdrawal symptoms (clarity of thought, getting work done, hugging kids, being kind to pets, liquor evaporating rather than being metabolized (cold turkey is mean!)) and went over to UD for just a taste.Wow have things dried up over there! It kinda reminds me of a mall near where I live. All the quality stores moved out, even the McDonalds! So all that is left of that mall (some dozen acres) is a coffee shop. No tumble weeds blowing through but there is some sad bit of bunting from an Xmas season and a sales flyer and food wrapper or two. Then there are the bare mannequins in dusty windows that sometimes seem to move when one is not looking at them directly. A deserted mall is a sad and spooky place. Well over at UD there is someone talking to the mannequins. Didn't paulmc get the memo? I suppose the mall building super/security guard will emerge from his dingy office eventually and ban paulmc. I wonder when they will bulldoze the place, or perhaps it will just get overgrown with weeds and crumble away. -DU- Do you think they'd let us have paintball tournaments in that empty mall? My old local mall had a JCPenny and 5 shoe stores. �Even the Dairy Queen left and, for Texas, that's serious. Oh that would be cool! There used to be a laser-tag place complete with movie set smoke and fog in one of the mini-malls around here. They only lasted a year or two. That was 15 years ago. I am in Northern New Jersey and I think they just overbuilt all the malls around here. There have been some where they bulldozed sections of it and turned them in to more parking lots. Be nice if they turned them in to parks. Fewer and fewer of those around here also. No places for kids to play outdoors. In the town where I work the city built a new playground with lights and baseball diamonds, a soccer field, and even a very spiffy skate park with all the rails and ramps a kid could want.) They built it three miles from the center of town out in the boonies. No bus goes there. No sidewalks along a busy road where the speed limit is 45MPH. In other words no way for kids to get to the park unless they are driven there. Back to UD (or not)... I am wondering how long it will last before they try and do something desperate. Gordos latest attempt to bait Elizabeth back to UD is pretty transparent. I think we can thank Arry Bannington for just about singlehandedly destroying the UD mosh pit. -DU- -------------- Being laughed at doesn't mean you're progressing along some line. It probably just means you're saying some stupid shit -stevestory

Lou FCD Posts: 5455 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,19:22    -------------- “Why do creationists have such a hard time with commas? Linky“. ~ Steve Story, Legend

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,19:54    Quote (REC @ Mar. 16 2012,17:03) I saw this title at another site and had to peek. Without comment, from news: Quote Will climate change end up replacing Darwinian evolution as the factor that explains everything? Just listen to this: <quoted from article> Climate is believed to be the driving force behind most of these evolutionary processes, including geographical range change. It dictates which species are where at what time, driving their geographical spread or contraction. well, it's about time they expanded their purview of things they deny.  next:  macroecology!  this should be fun. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,21:58    Quote (REC @ Mar. 16 2012,14:03) I saw this title at another site and had to peek. Without comment, from news:... You guys are like all junkies. You tell everybody that you have "quit for ever." Then for a few weeks you whine how much you missed the "stuff." Then, you boast how you are finally clean forever. Then you go get a hit. But this time its different. Now you are getting the tard 'just because I "had to peek." Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 16 2012,20:00 -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,22:41    Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 16 2012,22:58) Quote (REC @ Mar. 16 2012,14:03) I saw this title at another site and had to peek. Without comment, from news:... You guys are like all junkies. You tell everybody that you have "quit for ever." Then for a few weeks you whine how much you missed the "stuff." Then, you boast how you are finally clean forever. Then you go get a hit. But this time its different. Now you are getting the tard 'just because I "had to peek." fucking drunks i aint looked in that shitbin -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 16 2012,22:47    but i have been abusing the shit out of some other tards -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,01:05    A mall in Nanaimo was like that a few years back, just a couple of kitsch and crappy tourist junk stores, and a car-racing video game called "F1 Exhaust Note".  I wish I'd taken a picture of that for engrish.com. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

sledgehammer Posts: 533 Joined: Sep. 2008 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,01:15    Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 16 2012,06:17) fucking drunks Hey now... �I resemble that remark -------------- The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time. The terror of their tyranny is alleviated by their lack of consistency. -A. Einstein �(H/T, JAD) If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,02:10    Quote (Kattarina98 @ Mar. 16 2012,09:31) He might be in two minds; of course he loves to control discussions. OTOH, he craves an audience, and his audience has migrated elsewhere. Good points. He's likely praying that the new mall evo-mat fever swamp will be utterly destroyed by his imaginary god, and in the meantime he's probably searching the internet for a suitable pulpit where he can proselytize, and rage against atheists, during the moments when he's not 'accidently' looking at porn. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

The whole truth Posts: 1554 Joined: Jan. 2012 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,10:56    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 16 2012,20:41) Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 16 2012,22:58) Quote (REC @ Mar. 16 2012,14:03) I saw this title at another site and had to peek. Without comment, from news:... You guys are like all junkies. You tell everybody that you have "quit for ever." Then for a few weeks you whine how much you missed the "stuff." Then, you boast how you are finally clean forever. Then you go get a hit. But this time its different. Now you are getting the tard 'just because I "had to peek." fucking drunks i aint looked in that shitbin I haven't looked at UD for 2 or 3 weeks and I really don't miss it. At first I was tempted but that's wearing off. There's plenty of ID tard in other places and some of those sites don't block or ban people for no good reason, and the IDiots who post on some sites have to face their challengers or run like scared chickens back to UD or some other echo chamber sanctuary. It's a lot more fun and productive to take on IDiots on sites where they aren't protected by pompous, dishonest tyrants like that dickhead arrington. -------------- Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Dr.GH Posts: 2333 Joined: May 2002 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,11:36    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 16 2012,20:47) but i have been abusing the shit out of some other tards For a few years now, I have been signing on to newspaper comments sections for articles, editorials, or letters related to ID, evolution, creationism, or science education. Great big buckets of the hardtard. -------------- "Science is the horse that pulls the cart of philosophy." L. Susskind, 2004 "SMOLIN VS. SUSSKIND: THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE"

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 17 2012,20:00    Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 17 2012,12:36) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 16 2012,20:47) but i have been abusing the shit out of some other tards For a few years now, I have been signing on to newspaper comments sections for articles, editorials, or letters related to ID, evolution, creationism, or science education. Great big buckets of the hardtard. aye it's hard to get your rocks off at the dustbin i mean, socking is a whole nother kind of pleasure. �but there are bajillions of people, just as entertainingly stupid or self deluded as the inmates at UD, who aren't cloistered into a gloryhole smelling each others farts all the time the world is full of tard. �god if you are listening, you cunt, may it ever be so. eta grammafication Edited by Erasmus, FCD on Mar. 17 2012,21:01 -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell.�Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

Febble Posts: 310 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2012,05:32    Quote (fnxtr @ Mar. 17 2012,01:05) A mall in Nanaimo was like that a few years back, just a couple of kitsch and crappy tourist junk stores, and a car-racing video game called "F1 Exhaust Note". �I wish I'd taken a picture of that for engrish.com. As I recall, that was all Nanaimo ever was.  Plus a ferry.

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Mar. 18 2012,06:28    Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Mar. 18 2012,04:00) Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 17 2012,12:36)   Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Mar. 16 2012,20:47) but i have been abusing the shit out of some other tards For a few years now, I have been signing on to newspaper comments sections for articles, editorials, or letters related to ID, evolution, creationism, or science education. Great big buckets of the hardtard. aye it's hard to get your rocks off at the dustbin i mean, socking is a whole nother kind of pleasure. �but there are bajillions of people, just as entertainingly stupid or self deluded as the inmates at UD, who aren't cloistered into a gloryhole smelling each others farts all the time the world is full of tard. �god if you are listening, you cunt, may it ever be so. eta grammafication I AM, HOMO! YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND. I WILL DELIVER YOUR EVIL THEIR HELL WILL BE MY HEAVEN YOUR KINGDOM WILL COME SINNER BWHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

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