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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,07:36   

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Dude, I left at four pages to go watch Tron: Legacy


I'm so, so terribly sorry. My thoughts are with you.

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Gunthernacus



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,09:23   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,18:12)
except maybe the blue whale but one bigger will pop up sooner or later

An ID prediction! </confetti>  Using this new robustness measure - ID is sure to replace current science.

 
Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 24 2011,08:00)
from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

POTW!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,09:47   

Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
from ordure to Orff

from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

from BM to BMW

From poo to you by way of the loo.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,10:22   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 24 2011,15:47)
Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
from ordure to Orff

from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

from BM to BMW

From poo to you by way of the loo.

Tracy Hamilton and Paragwinn both get my vote for POTW.

Tracy, you get the PO, Paragwinn you get the TW. No swapsies no squabbling.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,12:04   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 24 2011,07:47)
Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
from ordure to Orff

from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

from BM to BMW

From poo to you by way of the loo.

From turd to tard.  And back again.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,12:15   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 24 2011,08:47)
Quote (paragwinn @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
from ordure to Orff

from feces to Ninety-Five Theses

from BM to BMW

From poo to you by way of the loo.

Is that the poo the whole poo and nothing but the poo?

  
JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,12:31   

- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,12:37   

Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,13:32   

Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?

Louis

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,14:00   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,07:10)
Quote (George @ Oct. 24 2011,08:23)
Don't distract him!  I think I speak for everyone here (well, ok, maybe just 'Ras) when I want to hear more about his theory that coprophagy proves design.

Is this something to do with 'Mud to Mozart'?

I like "From Poo To You By Way of Teh Jew".

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,14:03   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,13:37)
Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

I'd been wondering, myself.  Deadman and I wax nostalgic about him once in a while.  Lousy pillow talk but still amusing.

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Ra-Úl



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,14:05   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?

Louis

'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,15:13   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,20:05)
'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

Maybe 'Forastero' is just a misspelling of 'For Hysterics'?

Apropos nothing in particular, in Dublin, the English word for someone of a different nationality is pronounced fardn.

(Similarly, the local newspaper published during the afternoon is termed the Eden Heddle.)

Thank you for your attention during this short digression.

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,15:21   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,20:05)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
 
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?

Louis

'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

I was referring to AFDave's much laughed at claim that Portuguese is a mixture of Spanish and French. So when JohnW asked (tongue in cheek I am guessing) if our new chew toy is AFDave's Portuguese cousin, well, it was an obvious in-joke.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,15:23   

Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 24 2011,20:03)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,13:37)
Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

I'd been wondering, myself.  Deadman and I wax nostalgic about him once in a while.  Lousy pillow talk but still amusing.

THAT'S what gets you hot? Impressive.

"Oooooh baby, tell me how big the error is in YEC's claims about the age of the earth"

"Six orders of magnitude"

"<Something about your cock>"

"That'll do! Annnnnnnnnd relax!"

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,15:52   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,15:13)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,20:05)
'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

Maybe 'Forastero' is just a misspelling of 'For Hysterics'?

Apropos nothing in particular, in Dublin, the English word for someone of a different nationality is pronounced fardn.

(Similarly, the local newspaper published during the afternoon is termed the Eden Heddle.)

Thank you for your attention during this short digression.

No wooddies, mistah.

(Edited for more hanging out at the Square in Tallaght on a wet Tuesday night -ness.)

  
Ra-Úl



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,15:58   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,15:21)
Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,20:05)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
   
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?

Louis

'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

I was referring to AFDave's much laughed at claim that Portuguese is a mixture of Spanish and French. So when JohnW asked (tongue in cheek I am guessing) if our new chew toy is AFDave's Portuguese cousin, well, it was an obvious in-joke.

Louis

I know. I am an afdave stalker. I just wanted to find a pun on 'forastero' in Spanish and Portugese (or French, but my French is worse than can be imagined) an could not work one out. I am disappointed in my multilingual punning ability.

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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,16:23   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,16:23)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 24 2011,20:03)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,13:37)
Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

I'd been wondering, myself.  Deadman and I wax nostalgic about him once in a while.  Lousy pillow talk but still amusing.

THAT'S what gets you hot? Impressive.

"Oooooh baby, tell me how big the error is in YEC's claims about the age of the earth"

"Six orders of magnitude"

"<Something about your cock>"

"That'll do! Annnnnnnnnd relax!"

Louis

OMG HOW DID YOU KNOW?!11!!

*looks around bedroom for super-secret spy-type bugs*

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,17:10   

Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 24 2011,14:03)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,13:37)
Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

I'd been wondering, myself.  Deadman and I wax nostalgic about him once in a while.  Lousy pillow talk but still amusing.

I'd imagine it's an excellent contraceptive.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,17:16   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 24 2011,15:10)
Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 24 2011,14:03)
Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 24 2011,13:37)
Falando do quem, has AFDave been seen anywhere recently?

He discovered an[other] exciting business opportunity when Febble et al painted him into the corner of a zircon crystal at TalkOrigins a few months ago.

It would be such as shame to lose the Internet's premier resource for countering creationism.

I'd been wondering, myself.  Deadman and I wax nostalgic about him once in a while.  Lousy pillow talk but still amusing.

I'd imagine it's an excellent contraceptive.

It sounds better in Portuguese.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,18:48   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:41)
Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 23 2011,17:27)
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:22)
 
Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 23 2011,17:19)
Okay, define robust.

ha ha thats funny

Mass, density, etc etc..

So it is the creationist meaning of robust that your are referring to and not the scientific meaning then? Because in paleontology and paleoanthropology robust is not a measure of size.

thats so funny its sad

So not to look like the cop out that it is, why dont you provide the "anthropological" definition of robustness

Okay so, had to watch my team lose game four of the world series and then go to work. Here is your definition of robusticity.

You might want to ask yourself why australopithicines come in robust and gracile forms even though they are approximately the same size and body mass.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,19:04   

Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:03)
[quote=afarensis,Oct. 23 2011,16:27]
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,16:11)
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Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,12:56)


Again, if you are willing, I will teach you.  I figure Big Bang cosmology would take about 2 months, genetics 3-4 weeks,  evolution 3-4 months.  This would, of course, depend on your diligence in the subjects.

So if mutations didnt cause an evolution from one order to new orders then what do Y'ALL think did? Oh and since you are chemist, please also inform me if and how primordial soup mutated into life

Dont worry I have known how the endocrine system selects phenotypes for years and will teach you but first I want you to tell me your definition of natural selection and how it works with mutations.

Speaking of double standards, y'all still havnt answered my question above and I guess would rather focus on eunuchs, hairless dogs, and wiki definitions rather than comparing proven Endocrine system adaptation with your natural mutation selection

The only scientist I know of who gave a role in evolution to the endocrine system is Carleton Coon, and his views on the subject are more than a little bit racist. Also, Schwartz's work on heat shock proteins. So do, please, elaborate for us.

Wrong again. Carlton Coon and his ilk hated the thought of purposeful adaptation and ID. He was a neodarwinist who like the Darwinist believed in the preservation of favored races via exploitation, eugenics, genocide, war, etc etc ...

You , apparently, have never read Coon, so here is coon on The endocrine system:

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As growth is controlled by the endocrine, any shift in endocrine balance can cause radical changes in the form and appearance of the adult animal.
The origin of Races pg 24

He then devotes about 8 pages later in the book to the impact of the endocrine system on human evolution. (pgs 108-116) Finally, Coon did not hate intelligent design theory because he died long before it was invented.

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FTK: I Didn't answer your questions because it beats the hell out of me.

PaV: I suppose for me to be pried away from what I do to focus long and hard on that particular problem would take, quite honestly, hundreds of thousands of dollars to begin to pique my interest.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,19:46   

Quote (Ra-Úl @ Oct. 24 2011,15:05)
 
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 24 2011,13:32)
     
Quote (JohnW @ Oct. 24 2011,18:31)
- Gish Gallop.
- Spectacular arrogance.
- Spectacular ignorance.
- Refusal to accept being wrong about anything, even the most minor off-topic comment.

Combined with his/her shaky grasp of the English language, the conclusion's obvious: forastero is afdave's Portuguese cousin.

Forastero is a combination of French and Spanish?

Louis

'Forastero means 'stranger' or 'foreigner' in Spanish. From a Catalan word. I was trying to find a Portuguese cognate for a weak pun, but no luck. I like how Forastero use 'y'all' and other Americanisms. Foreigners find other foreigner's English very amusing.

Nah.

Forastero. Australian for bore.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,23:40   

He's gone - didn't get the ban he was hoping for.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2011,23:57   

The sad thing about all the ad hominems is that they weren't even funny. What is funny but true is that according to the ancient philosophers "Ad hominem attacks were the ultimate sign the agony of defeat” and usually by those influenced by the spiritual logos

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." By Albert Einstein

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2011,00:03   

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The sad thing about all the ad hominems is that they weren't even funny. What is funny but true is that according to the ancient philosophers "Ad hominem attacks were the ultimate sign the agony of defeat” and usually by those influenced by the spiritual logos

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." By Albert Einstein

Oh yeah?  Well, according to even ancienter spirits, you eat poo.

See how that works?   :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2011,00:07   

Quote (dnmlthr @ Oct. 23 2011,23:20)
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,15:22)
Quote (afarensis @ Oct. 23 2011,17:19)
Okay, define robust.

ha ha thats funny

Mass, density, etc etc..

Hahaha, oh wow.

The concept of island dwarfism disagrees

Those Island dwarfs had more robust ancestors too

  
forastero



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2011,00:11   

Quote (Wolfhound @ Oct. 25 2011,00:03)
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 25 2011,00:57)
The sad thing about all the ad hominems is that they weren't even funny. What is funny but true is that according to the ancient philosophers "Ad hominem attacks were the ultimate sign the agony of defeat” and usually by those influenced by the spiritual logos

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." By Albert Einstein

Oh yeah?  Well, according to even ancienter spirits, you eat poo.

See how that works?   :)

The inquiring mind knows that everyone eats poo and around the clock

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2011,00:15   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 24 2011,07:21)
Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Oct. 24 2011,07:00)
References to Of Mice and Men and factual information aside, I think our new friend didn't expect the Spanish inquisition!

Ok, I'll admit this was posted for comedic value and doesn't add anything to the discussion, but when I left yesterday the thread was 3 pages, and now it's 6.


I'm a slow reader...

Dude, I left at four pages to go watch Tron: Legacy with the boy and came back to 6 pages.

I hope we didn't break him.  I mean, who are we expecting to actually support his statements>!>!>

So thats your excuse to avoid explaining your so called natural mutation selection?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2011,01:04   

Quote (jeannot @ Oct. 24 2011,00:32)
Quote (forastero @ Oct. 23 2011,17:20)
Hmm..you guys sure are taking a long time to find a robust critter

the horse?

the blue whale?
EDIT: given the billion of species that existed I'm pretty sure you can find an ancestor that was more robust than a extant descendent... or weaker. Depends on which ancestor you pick.

What's your point?

So you want to add multi-toed beasts to horses ey?

Then here's a Hyracodontid (in the background to the right)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature.....e_1.jpg

P.S I had to delete your image and mine because for some strange reason I can no longer post or qote anything with images

  
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