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Wolfhound



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2009,19:46   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 21 2009,19:42)
There is a checkbox just below the comment entry box that says "Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?"

Check that when you want emoticons.

I did, so I checked it, but that also enables them for the part of my post when I quoted you.

Totally not your fault. You may return to your drinks.

Aha!  Thanks for the tip.  I never even noticed that box.  Keen powers of observation and all.  <*sigh*>

Back to the booze but I do believe the bad zombie movie needs to go bye-bye.  Drinkin' ain't makin' it no better.  Time to go read a book, methinks.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2009,20:01   

Quote (Wolfhound @ Jan. 21 2009,17:46)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ Jan. 21 2009,19:42)
There is a checkbox just below the comment entry box that says "Do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?"

Check that when you want emoticons.

I did, so I checked it, but that also enables them for the part of my post when I quoted you.

Totally not your fault. You may return to your drinks.

Aha!  Thanks for the tip.  I never even noticed that box.  Keen powers of observation and all.  <*sigh*>

Back to the booze but I do believe the bad zombie movie needs to go bye-bye.  Drinkin' ain't makin' it no better.  Time to go read a book, methinks.



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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 21 2009,23:33   

My wife (5'11") and I went to a local inaugural party last night at a pizza joint the next town (5 miles) from us (Orange County is now all just one big town now really). We met up with about 150 local Dem's. I kept hearing people say, "I didn't know there were this many of us in south county OC."

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snorkild



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2009,04:06   

Quote (Lowell @ Jan. 20 2009,16:29)
Ooo Bush sworn in on a Freemason's Bible?

Really? I thought he was sworn in on "The Very Hungry Caterpillar".

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2009,06:14   

Ok, now, who is the smartass who replaced Obama's picture with a gorilla?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 22 2009,06:20   

Ok, it's been fixed. If anyone wants the screenshot:

http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo352/fairyphil/GorillaObama.jpg

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 23 2009,14:43   

Must.... suppress.... Nelson Muntz... laugh.... strength fading...so... difficult...

 
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January 23, 2009, 2:32 pm
Obama to GOP: ‘I Won’
Jonathan Weisman reports on the White House.

The top congressional leaders from both parties gathered at the White House for a working discussion over the shape and size of President Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan. The meeting was designed to promote bipartisanship.

But Obama showed that in an ideological debate, he’s not averse to using a jab.

Challenged by one Republican senator over the contents of the package, the new president, according to participants, replied: “I won.”

The statement was prompted by Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona , who challenged the president and the Democratic leaders over the balance between the package’s spending and tax cuts, bringing up the traditional Republican notion that a tax credit for people who do not earn enough to pay income taxes is not a tax cut but a government check.

Obama noted that such workers pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, property taxes and sales taxes. The issue was widely debated during the presidential campaign, when Sen. John McCain, the Republican nominee, challenged Obama’s tax plan as “welfare.”

With those two words — “I won” — the Democratic president let the Republicans know that debate has been put to rest Nov. 4 .

Democratic and Republican aides confirmed the exchange. A White House spokesman said he wasn’t immediately aware of the exchange. The aides who heard the remarks stressed that it wasn’t as boldly partisan as it might sound.

Still, other Democrats echoed the sentiment. As he left the White House, House Majority Whip James Clyburn of South Carolina was asked about Republican complaints that Democrats aren’t listening to what their GOP colleagues have to say. “We’re responding to the American people,” he said. “The American people didn’t listen to them too well during the election.”



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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 25 2009,03:58   

Obama's doing the right thing by moving the weekly radio address to YouTube, but a weekly address is still the wrong thing to do. Simply because we'll get tired of it. I'm not going to tune in to a weekly presidential statement for the next 4 years. I don't want to hear 208 mini-speeches over the next 4 years. Make it once a month. Familiarity breeds contempt.

   
bfish



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,01:10   

This probably belongs on the Bathroom Wall, but that's too polluted with the Daniel Smith goings on, so will use this thread to spread the Good News:

(Scroll to the bottom)
This is William Kristol’s last column.

Damn! This just keeps getting better and better!

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,01:13   

I was psyched to see that a few hours ago. The rumors were right, thank god.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,01:16   

I mean, Maureen Dowd is pretty bad, and Thomas Friedman...well, Matt Taibbi said all that needs to be said about him. But Kristol was just awful. Whoever they replace him with will be an improvement.

Rich, Krugman, Kristof, and Herbert are good.

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,09:19   

Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 25 2009,23:16)
I mean, Maureen Dowd is pretty bad, and Thomas Friedman...well, Matt Taibbi said all that needs to be said about him. But Kristol was just awful. Whoever they replace him with will be an improvement.

Rich, Krugman, Kristof, and Herbert are good.

Wasn't Kristol the one who talked McCain into choosing Palin?

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"Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,10:53   

Quote (bfish @ Jan. 25 2009,23:10)
This probably belongs on the Bathroom Wall, but that's too polluted with the Daniel Smith goings on, so will use this thread to spread the Good News:

(Scroll to the bottom)
This is William Kristol’s last column.

Damn! This just keeps getting better and better!

YEAAAAAAAAAA

Why did he quit? Was he fired? Is he dying?

Edited by Dr.GH on Jan. 26 2009,08:54

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noncarborundum



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,11:18   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 26 2009,10:53)
 
Quote (bfish @ Jan. 25 2009,23:10)
This probably belongs on the Bathroom Wall, but that's too polluted with the Daniel Smith goings on, so will use this thread to spread the Good News:

(Scroll to the bottom)
This is William Kristol’s last column.

Damn! This just keeps getting better and better!

YEAAAAAAAAAA

Why did he quit? Was he fired? Is he dying?

Kristol's contract is up.  They signed him up for one year in January 2008.  Maybe cooler heads at the NYT have have prevailed this time around.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,11:28   

Quote (noncarborundum @ Jan. 26 2009,11:18)
Quote (Dr.GH @ Jan. 26 2009,10:53)
   
Quote (bfish @ Jan. 25 2009,23:10)
This probably belongs on the Bathroom Wall, but that's too polluted with the Daniel Smith goings on, so will use this thread to spread the Good News:

(Scroll to the bottom)
This is William Kristol’s last column.

Damn! This just keeps getting better and better!

YEAAAAAAAAAA

Why did he quit? Was he fired? Is he dying?

Kristol's contract is up.  They signed him up for one year in January 2008.  Maybe   cooler wiser heads at the NYT have have prevailed this time around.

I fixed it for you! :)

The guy was like a Dembski for editorialaists...wrong about everything he was supremely confident about.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 26 2009,14:23   

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Kristol's contract is up.  They signed him up for one year in January 2008.  Maybe cooler heads at the NYT have have prevailed this time around.

That and the Times is broke.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2009,14:48   

Obama has an even more barbed sense of humor than we thought. This from his recent negotiations with the House GOP:

 
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Republicans continue to insist that tax cuts be added to the package, and some spending cut from it. They've won at least one victory so far, but aren't likely to wring many more concessions from the administration. During his meeting with the House Republicans, Obama was reportedly asked about coming to compromise on taxes by including an income tax cut. He responded by insisting that there was a need to focus at least in part on payroll taxes, to help families that don't pay income tax (most Americans pay more in payroll tax than they do in income tax), saying, "feel free to whack me over the head because I probably will not compromise on that part." He added, according to NBC's First Read, that he understands there's a time for politics and for the GOP to "beat him up," and said, "I understand that and I will watch you on Fox News and feel bad about myself."


Yow. I wonder if any of the Goopers realized they were being made fun of?

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 27 2009,14:56   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Jan. 27 2009,14:48)
Yow. I wonder if any of the Goopers realized they were being made fun of?

Short answer?  "NO!".  

Goopers and UDers have an equivalent sense of humor = 0.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 30 2009,13:30   

AIDS Coordinator Is Dismissed

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The abrupt departure of the State Department’s global AIDS coordinator has led to debate over who should run what may be President Bush’s greatest legacy: his commitment of billions of dollars to fighting AIDS overseas.
The position — U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator and director of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which is known as Pepfar — is a State Department post with ambassador’s rank that had been held by Dr. Mark R. Dybul, a Bush administration appointee.

On Jan. 9, Dr. Dybul circulated a memo saying he had been asked by President Obama’s transition team to stay on the job temporarily. But on Jan. 22, one day after Hillary Clinton was confirmed as secretary of state, her staff announced that Dr. Dybul had resigned.

No reason was given, but he was reported to have packed up his office and said an emotional goodbye to his staff that afternoon. Mr. Dybul did not return phone messages, but he has told friends that he does not even know on whose orders he was dismissed.

“He deserved better,” said a friend who asked not to be identified for fear of jeopardizing his government job. “He didn’t want to stay, but he was asked.”

The ambassador disburses Pepfar’s funds; Congress authorized $15 billion over five years in 2003, and the fund has since paid for AIDS drugs for about two million people, mostly in Africa. Last year, after a bitter fight between liberal and conservative lawmakers over what the money could be spent on, the fund was renewed as part of a law authorizing $48 billion over five years for combating AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria.

The question of who should run the program seems to be a legacy of that fight. Several names have been discussed as possible candidates, but AIDS activists say they know of no one who has been seriously vetted for the job by the Obama transition team since November.

A day after Dr. Dybul’s resignation, word began to circulate among AIDS activists that the job had been offered to Dr. Eric Goosby, the director of AIDS policy in Bill Clinton’s administration, who now runs a San Francisco foundation devoted to fighting AIDS.

According to a member of an anti-AIDS group speaking on the condition of anonymity, Senator John Kerry approached Mrs. Clinton, seeking the job for Dr. Jim Yong Kim, a Harvard medical school professor and former World Health Organization AIDS chief, and was told that she had offered it to Dr. Goosby.

Through a spokesman, Dr. Goosby declined to confirm or deny that he had been offered the job, and Dr. Kim did not return phone calls seeking comment. Senator Kerry’s spokesman said he would not discuss the senator’s personal conversations with Mrs. Clinton.

Both men had been discussed as possible candidates, along with Dr. Nils Daulaire, former president of the Global Health Council; Dr. Wafaa El-Sadr, an epidemiologist at the Columbia School of Public Health; and Warren W. Buckingham III, Pepfar’s director in Kenya, who is openly gay and taking AIDS drugs himself.

Dr. Daulaire declined to be interviewed, Dr. El-Sadr said she had not heard that her name was among those being discussed, and Mr. Buckingham said he knew his name had been suggested by others but had not lobbied for the job and had not been contacted by either the Obama or Clinton teams.

The abruptness of Dr. Dybul’s departure and the secrecy of the process to replace him has upset some AIDS policy specialists.

On Monday, a coalition of 68 anti-AIDS groups sent a letter to Mrs. Clinton asking her not to fill Mr. Dybul’s post immediately but to convene a committee to identify top candidates and get many viewpoints, including theirs.

One of its authors, Brian Hennessey of the Vineeta Foundation, expressed his irritation at how the request was ignored.

“Goosby is not bad,” he said. “There are plenty of people who want Goosby — but they’ll be damned if the job is filled this way. This isn’t the truth-in-advertising of the Obama campaign.”


Dr. Dybul’s departure was both celebrated and condemned.

Jodi Jacobson, a former head of the Center for Health and Gender Equity, which wants financing for all aspects of women’s reproductive health, including abortion, wrote a blog post titled “Dybul Out: Thank You Hillary!!!” It argued that he had worked too closely with the far right, and she accused him of lobbying to please the Roman Catholic Church by letting its relief groups opt out of distributing condoms.

Michael Gerson, a former Bush speechwriter and Washington Post columnist, shot back that “blogging extremists” like Ms. Jacobson had lied about Dr. Dybul’s record and that his firing had left an important program without a leader.

At the heart of the debate was the difficult bipartisan compromise behind Mr. Bush’s AIDS plan. It is the darling of two groups that normally oppose each other: foreign policy liberals who want to help Africa and evangelical Christians who support mission hospitals there.

Dr. Dybul was straddling some personal fences too: he was one of the Bush administration’s few openly gay officials, a doctor who had treated AIDS patients in San Francisco and Africa, and he had donated to Democratic causes. He took office when his boss, Randall Tobias, a former pharmaceutical executive, was ousted in the D.C. Madam scandal after acknowledging he had received escort-service massages.

Mr. Tobias and Dr. Dybul surprised many with two early decisions that activists had expected fights over: Pepfar has paid for millions of condoms, and it buys cheap generic drugs from India, despite the pharmaceutical lobby’s opposition.

But conservatives in Congress imposed other restrictions: one-third of the money spent on prevention had to be used for teaching abstinence until marriage. Groups getting funds, including those helping prostitutes, had to sign a pledge condemning prostitution. And no money could be spent on clean needles for drug addicts.

These issues were divisive not just for liberals and conservatives, but also between liberals. For example, some feminists think women needing money have a right to engage in prostitution, while others oppose it, saying it contributes to human trafficking and child rape.

In separate studies, the Government Accountability Office and the Institute of Medicine both found that the abstinence earmark unnecessarily tied the hands of fund recipients, especially in countries where AIDS was concentrated among drug users and prostitutes.

Dr. Dybul defended the teaching of abstinence, especially to young children, because it can be effective among deeply religious rural Africans.

And he argued that countries could get funds for prohibited uses, like clean needles, from other donors like the Global Fund for AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria or European countries.

Although the restrictions have been criticized, no one has presented scientific evidence that they cost any lives.

And although there was grumbling in 2003 when the Bush administration created its own AIDS program rather than simply contributing to the Global Fund, Rajat Gupta, chairman of the Global Fund’s board, said Thursday in Davos that Pepfar was “one of the truly great contributions of the last administration.”



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