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k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 03 2017,20:20    Quote (Texas Teach @ Nov. 04 2017,04:07) Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 03 2017,19:42) Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 03 2017,14:37)   Quote If he could only hook up an ABU fishing reel to a recycled outboard motor leg he would be able to hand power his whole island away from that infernal volcano. The Great Mind is already pondering along those lines.       Quote I wonder whether you have ever built or analysed the construction of a precision item that needed to be exact to one part in a thousand, much less a million or a thousand million. A single gear embeds enough FSCO/I to be decisive. Just a little more FSCO/I and some 2-cyle mix and he'll have it. Link ... and maybe some H2O2 from Joe's basement. Wasn't  DaveTard into some crazy chemical self-medication? I vaguely recall he was giving something unconventional and toxic to one of his dogs to cure cancer, not a hundred percent sure. He claimed to be expert on carburetors,outboard motors and mushroom breeding though. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Ptaylor Posts: 1180 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2017,23:49    J-Mac has found another evilution killer:       Quote 129 J-MacNovember 5, 2017 at 5:42 pm Good stuff gpuccio! Are you familiar with the origin of carnivorous plants by WE. Lonnig? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.....2/abstrac....bstract Mind boggling evidence that Dawinists have access to and yet still refuse to accept it… I pity them…Maybe I shouldn’t? Duno… Someone who posts at UD might like to bring his attention to this book. UD linky (Although ETA: You'll have to manually remove the <br> in the url if you want that link to work.) Edited by Ptaylor on Nov. 06 2017,18:15 -------------- We no longer say: “Another day; another bad day for Darwinism.” We now say: “Another day since the time Darwinism was disproved.” -PaV, Uncommon Descent, 19 June 2016

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2017,14:34    Banny Arrogant: Quote A person who is really happy with brute facts is the exact opposite of “very curious.” I”m astonished you would suggest otherwise. This goes a long way to explain the ID mind.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 06 2017,21:59    [quote=Ptaylor,Nov. 05 2017,23:49]J-Mac has found another evilution killer:             Quote 129 J-MacNovember 5, 2017 at 5:42 pm Good stuff gpuccio! Are you familiar with the origin of carnivorous plants by WE. Lonnig? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.....2/abstrac....bstract Mind boggling evidence that Dawinists have access to and yet still refuse to accept it… I pity them…Maybe I shouldn’t? Duno… From that link:     Quote Further research will decide whether Behe's concept of ‘irreducible complexity’ (identifying ‘a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning’) can be applied to the core system of the Utricularia trap. I think we have an ID ringer here.  I dont know of any actual biologist who takes Behe seriously.

Bob O'H Posts: 2564 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,03:18    Quote (CeilingCat @ Nov. 06 2017,21:59) [quote=Ptaylor,Nov. 05 2017,23:49]J-Mac has found another evilution killer:             Quote 129 J-MacNovember 5, 2017 at 5:42 pm Good stuff gpuccio! Are you familiar with the origin of carnivorous plants by WE. Lonnig? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.....2/abstrac....bstract Mind boggling evidence that Dawinists have access to and yet still refuse to accept it… I pity them…Maybe I shouldn’t? Duno… From that link:     Quote Further research will decide whether Behe's concept of ‘irreducible complexity’ (identifying ‘a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning’) can be applied to the core system of the Utricularia trap. I think we have an ID ringer here.  I dont know of any actual biologist who takes Behe seriously. Lönnig is a long-time creationist. The giraffe neck was a favourite of his for a long time. -------------- It is fun to dip into the various threads to watch cluelessness at work in the hands of the confident exponent. - Soapy Sam (so say we all)

Texas Teach Posts: 2084 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,05:44    Quote (Bob O'H @ Nov. 07 2017,03:18) [quote=CeilingCat,Nov. 06 2017,21:59] Quote (Ptaylor @ Nov. 05 2017,23:49) J-Mac has found another evilution killer:               Quote 129 J-MacNovember 5, 2017 at 5:42 pm Good stuff gpuccio! Are you familiar with the origin of carnivorous plants by WE. Lonnig? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.....2/abstrac....bstract Mind boggling evidence that Dawinists have access to and yet still refuse to accept it… I pity them…Maybe I shouldn’t? Duno… From that link:       Quote Further research will decide whether Behe's concept of ‘irreducible complexity’ (identifying ‘a single system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning’) can be applied to the core system of the Utricularia trap. I think we have an ID ringer here.  I dont know of any actual biologist who takes Behe seriously. Lönnig is a long-time creationist. The giraffe neck was a favourite of his for a long time. Is that similar to an Old Earth Creationist? -------------- "Creationists think everything Genesis says is true. I don't even think Phil Collins is a good drummer." --J. Carr "I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,09:51    Joe responding to MatSpirit over on the Social Media Killing Wikipedia thread (comment 119) Quote BTW there isn’t any evidence that proteins replicate. So you are living in some fantasy world, as usual. Can someone please mention prions to him. I can't be bothered to sock up. Linkypoo

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,13:19    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 07 2017,07:51) Joe responding to MatSpirit over on the Social Media Killing Wikipedia thread (comment 119) Quote BTW there isn’t any evidence that proteins replicate. So you are living in some fantasy world, as usual. Can someone please mention prions to him. I can't be bothered to sock up. Linkypoo If ice isn't water, what makes you think prions are protein? -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,13:24    Quote (JohnW @ Nov. 07 2017,13:19) Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 07 2017,07:51) Joe responding to MatSpirit over on the Social Media Killing Wikipedia thread (comment 119)   Quote BTW there isn’t any evidence that proteins replicate. So you are living in some fantasy world, as usual. Can someone please mention prions to him. I can't be bothered to sock up. Linkypoo If ice isn't water, what makes you think prions are protein? Next you will be telling me that Frequency doesn't equal Wavelength. Lunacy I say.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,16:19    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 07 2017,09:51) Joe responding to MatSpirit over on the Social Media Killing Wikipedia thread (comment 119)   Quote BTW there isn’t any evidence that proteins replicate. So you are living in some fantasy world, as usual. Can someone please mention prions to him. I can't be bothered to sock up. Linkypoo You mean ET is another one of Joe G's aliases? Good, that's one less nut in the world. There's another classic reply in that thread at 115.  Upright was asked for quotes or links to back up a statement he made:   Quote Sorry, I’m not your research assistant. If you want quotes, read some books and papers. That’s what the rest of us have to do. Reading that one made my day.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 07 2017,18:17    Quote MS: I think you would be well advised to heed the corrective just above. KF Just in case you needed to be reminded of Gordon (KairosFocus) Mulling’s pompous arrogance.

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2017,08:57    Quote Origines, well said. Sadly, MS seems to specialise in a form of the ever so common fallacy trifecta: red herrings led to strawman caricatures soaked in to the man contempt in his case. Set alight through dismissive rhetoric and the issue is lost in the fog of confusion and subtle form polarisation rooted in contempt. Such then self-reinforces, as the means of correction is being pushed aside and distracted from. KF It's nice to see that KF is back to his normal illiterate self.

fnxtr Posts: 3504 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2017,09:01    Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 08 2017,06:57) Quote Origines, well said. Sadly, MS seems to specialise in a form of the ever so common fallacy trifecta: red herrings led to strawman caricatures soaked in to the man contempt in his case. Set alight through dismissive rhetoric and the issue is lost in the fog of confusion and subtle form polarisation rooted in contempt. Such then self-reinforces, as the means of correction is being pushed aside and distracted from. KF It's nice to see that KF is back to his normal illiterate self. Makes me wonder if maybe our Mr. Potassium Fluoride is just Sokal's latest long-running stunt. -------------- "[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory "Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

k.e.. Posts: 5432 Joined: May 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 08 2017,10:11    Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 08 2017,17:01)   Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 08 2017,06:57)     Quote Origines, well said. Sadly, MS seems to specialise in a form of the ever so common fallacy trifecta: red herrings led to strawman caricatures soaked in to the man contempt in his case. Set alight through dismissive rhetoric and the issue is lost in the fog of confusion and subtle form polarisation rooted in contempt. Such then self-reinforces, as the means of correction is being pushed aside and distracted from. KF It's nice to see that KF is back to his normal illiterate self. Makes me wonder if maybe our Mr. Potassium Fluoride is just Sokal's latest long-running stunt. WHAT? No Lewontin! Though we have a cunning stunt. Last decades fashionable nonsense indeed. -------------- "I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit "ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus "I'm busy studying scientist level science papers" Galloping Gary Gaulin

Acartia_Bogart Posts: 2927 Joined: Sep. 2014 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2017,10:16    WJM: Quote KF In case you didn’t know, the recent Saudi arrests of so many of the royal family is part of the global human trafficking take-down Trump is spearheading. Much more to follow as the attack on the globalist cartels ramps up and big names like Weinstein, Podesta and Sheen start going down. There’s a reason Donna Brazille is jumping off the DNC boat. Dave S: Quote WJM, Is this all related to PizzaGate, by any chance? This is called baiting the bear. Or poking the hornet's nest. It is too easy to derail a thread over at UD.  My favourite has always been to bring up homosexuality and same sex marriage.

CeilingCat Posts: 2363 Joined: Dec. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2017,20:57    Link please?  So we don't give UD too many page hits looking for this.

dheddle Posts: 545 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2017,10:01    I'm so glad you guy and gals (and any linear combination thereof) are still here.You are my (secular) anchor. -------------- Mysticism is a rational enterprise. Religion is not. The mystic has recognized something about the nature of consciousness prior to thought, and this recognition is susceptible to rational discussion. The mystic has reason for what he believes, and these reasons are empirical. --Sam Harris

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 11 2017,13:32    Getting all ecumenical on us, Dave? On the 500th anniversary? Disgraceful!

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,12:56    Someone named JVL is kicking ID ass and taking names.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,13:01    Quote 26 JVLNovember 8, 2017 at 3:56 pm If you ask a biologist how, when or why some particular biological event occurred you might not get very specific answers but you should get some educated guesses. And, if you look at the research being done, you will find that scientists are very keen to discover answers to those questions. They want to know. In my experience, if you ask an ID proponent how was design implemented or when was design implemented or why was design implemented you get nothing in return. Not even a guess. No hypothesis, nothing. It’s like no one in the ID camp is even considering those issues. But, no matter what the state of knowledge, if ID is a science then someone must be thinking about those things. But you never hear about that. You can go to a biological conference and hear loads of conflicting views on lots of issues. Researchers are keen to discover new data and to argue with their peers about the interpretation. That’s healthy and right. When it comes to ID I never hear about anyone discussing various interpretations or approaches. That doesn’t seem right to me. I’ve never heard of a scientific discipline that didn’t argue and fuss and air out their laundry.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,13:04    Quote You need a designer to do the designing though. And they would need equipment and facilities and staff and resources and time. But no one seems to be interested in asking about any of those things. Look, even with the data now available you could at least hypothesise when and how often design was implemented. If the designer is intervening frequently then we really should see evidence of their presence, their equipment, etc. If the designer kick-started everything billions of years a go and then left well then it might be really hard to find physical evidence of their work. So, which is it? Some one must have a clue? The Intelligent Design movement is over 20 years old now, some progress must have been made. Somewhere. How much time does it take to study something designed to come up with some ideas of how and when it was created?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,13:11    JVL, whoever you are, you're magnificent. Quote Hey, it’s up to you but aside from claiming that you’ve found design you guys haven’t done much. You haven’t even come up with a proposal for when design was implemented. It doesn’t look to me that you have done much ‘science’.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,14:33    Quote From my perspective, I haven’t seen much come out of the ID community in the last ten years past ‘design has been detected’. Dr Behe has tried to make some serious contributions but aside from him it’s been mighty slim pickings. I think you’ve got some big questions and issues you should be working on but I see no evidence that any one is doing that work. Some of your answers sound like excuses to me. That’s just my opinion of course. Maybe you guys aren’t just spinning your wheels. But it does look like that. To me.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:13    Quote 16 FourFacesNovember 11, 2017 at 1:16 pm rvb8, if I were gay I would quite proudly say. This is like saying that you would be proud of being schizophrenic. Why would anybody be proud of an abnormality? Being gay is obviously a mental dysfunction most likely caused by bad parenting at an early age which triggered an epigenetic transformation. Unfortunately although I know, and am friendly to many gays, (since university), I am sad to say, I am not a part of that fun culture. I, too, I am friend of many gays. But I don’t see it as a fun culture. My gay friends all have problems with depression and obsessive behavior. They are not a happy bunch, regardless of the propaganda. This is why, as a Christian, I have compassion for gays. I know they are suffering. The sciencing is fast and furious over at UD.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:15    Quote 2 J-MacNovember 10, 2017 at 4:38 pm I am a Christian and I disagree with the claim that mankind descended from a single breeding pair. Then you not a Christian…You are a pseudo-christian like all theistic-evolutionists resembling Ken Miller, Dennis Venema and the rest of the so-called christians who sold Christianity for the sake of being called a scientist… I was very sadden to learn that even VJT sold himself to the so-called science… BTW: While most would probably not call me a Christian ( I don’t care) I have learned one thing about Christianity over the years: The Bible is always right. My 14 y old son recently proved me wrong because he relied on the Bible… It is not a science book but it is ahead of science in many, many ways…IMV…

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:18    Quote 36 kairosfocusNovember 12, 2017 at 12:31 pm DS, it seems pretty clear that pizza and hot dogs are fairly transparent code words used by abusers; whatever may or may not be so about certain particular places of business. Spirit cooking is also a sad, documented reality reflective of what has to be reckoned a damaged mindset. Frankly, in my worse days, I fear half of several houses of legislative assembly and maybe at least that fraction of entertainers are caught up in much the same. Royals too, from what WJM is saying about the crackdown in Arabia. A terrible cleansing of the elites is going to be needed and it is not going to be pretty. WJM is engaged in that thankless work and more power to him. KF KairosFocus is non compos mentis.

Woodbine Posts: 1218 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:24    It's basically Infowars meets David Icke meets Jesus over there.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:31    I just searched my gmail and found three emails that mentioned pizza! #SatanicPedophile

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:45    I've only been internetting on my phone for about a week, and it's not convenient to browse ud or atbc on that format. Today I fired up the laptop and UD is a damn goldmine.

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 12 2017,15:50    Quote Comment Policy Comment Moderation Policy The main thing to remember is that moderators are editors and it’s their job to make people’s words disappear before anyone else sees them. https://uncommondescent.com/comment....-policy

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