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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2013,18:49   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2013,19:10)
Isn't WordPress a free hosting site? Why is a payment required?

Wordpress is two separate things.

There is the blog software, which the estimable Dr. Liddle uses, and there is the free hosting domain, which she does not.

The problem is not with Wordpress, but with her hosting service.

I use GoDaddy for hosting SeductionByLouis, for instance. On my site I use free Wordpress software. My old blog Crowded Head Cozy Bed, took advantage of Wordpress.com's free hosting (http://crowdedheadcozybed.wordpress.com/), but my website (http://seductionbylouis.com/) does not.

Was that helpful, or have I had too much wine?

Edited by Lou FCD on May 11 2013,19:49

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2013,19:18   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 11 2013,16:49)
Quote (The whole truth @ May 11 2013,19:10)
Isn't WordPress a free hosting site? Why is a payment required?

Wordpress is two separate things.

There is the blog software, which the estimable Dr. Liddle uses, and there is the free hosting domain, which she does not.

The problem is not with Wordpress, but with her hosting service.

I use GoDaddy for hosting SeductionByLouis, for instance. On my site I use free Wordpress software. My old blog Crowded Head Cozy Bed, took advantage of Wordpress.com's free hosting (http://crowdedheadcozybed.wordpress.com/), but my website (http://seductionbylouis.com/) does not.

Was that helpful, or have I had too much wine?

Thanks Lou. I guess I understand now, although I don't see the advantage of paying for ordinary blog hosting when it can be gotten free. And with all of the problems Dr. Liddle's site has been having lately, I'd shitcan that hosting in a heartbeat, even if it were free.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2013,22:29   

Probably irrelevant, but I was at an estate sale Friday. The woman in line ahead of me paying for her stuff was from England and mentioned that her PayPal account had been hacked and cleaned out.

This is a rather odd coincidence. I am in Florida.

Edit to correct: the woman was not from England. She said the hacker was in England. My thought is that PayPal is probably doing a major audit, and may have put a hold on transactions.

Edited by midwifetoad on May 11 2013,22:41

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 11 2013,23:59   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 11 2013,20:29)
Probably irrelevant, but I was at an estate sale Friday. The woman in line ahead of me paying for her stuff was from England and mentioned that her PayPal account had been hacked and cleaned out.

This is a rather odd coincidence. I am in Florida.

Edit to correct: the woman was not from England. She said the hacker was in England. My thought is that PayPal is probably doing a major audit, and may have put a hold on transactions.

PayPal may work for some people but after all of the problems with it that I've seen reported, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,04:33   

The problem is not with the hosting service this time, which isn't great (webhostingpad), but is cheap, and my contract extends until next year.  When it expires I will probably go for a fancier hosting service.

The problem this time is with the domain name,  with register.com.  For some reason they can't process my payment for the domain name renewal, and their billing department only works weekdays.

I hope it will be sorted out on Monday.  The problem may be with paypal, but from what I can see from my paypal account, there is no problem, and register.com successfully took out a payment for my domain name insurance on Friday.  So it is a very irritating mystery.  Apologies to all.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,04:36   

I have to say that webhostingpad were great about sorting out the hack - they found the malignant code very quickly.  Too late to save the user database though.

But they do seem to have a lot of down time.  I think I'll see my contract out though.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,05:09   

Quote (keiths @ May 11 2013,17:01)
Quote (Febble @ May 11 2013,14:03)
Apparently they can't sort it out until Monday. Bummer.

The person at register.com even tried to reinstate it for $0, but the payment wouldn't go through.

I have no idea what the problem is, but it seems to be at their end.

Lizzie,

I'd be happy to make the payment from my PayPal account while you wait for them to sort things out.

PM me with the necessary details if you'd like me to go ahead.

Thanks keiths.  I'm not even sure if that would work - I tried using my son's credit card, but that also stalled.  There seems to be some hold on my account.

Register.com has promised that the problem is at the top of the list for Monday morning. I think we just have to wait.

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,07:18   

Quote (Febble @ May 12 2013,05:33)
The problem is not with the hosting service this time, which isn't great (webhostingpad), but is cheap, and my contract extends until next year. When it expires I will probably go for a fancier hosting service.

The problem this time is with the domain name, with register.com. For some reason they can't process my payment for the domain name renewal, and their billing department only works weekdays.

I hope it will be sorted out on Monday. The problem may be with paypal, but from what I can see from my paypal account, there is no problem, and register.com successfully took out a payment for my domain name insurance on Friday. So it is a very irritating mystery. Apologies to all.

You had mentioned this and I guess it had gone right past me. I'd gotten my domain names registered through my web hosting service, so that's probably why I had them tangled in my head.


Also, wine.

I hope they get it straightened out first thing with no problems.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,09:42   

Oddly enough, although attempted access to TSZ using OS X Safari gives domain name issues, I continue to successfully access TSZ using the Mac version of Firefox.

Weird.

(Probably a clue in there somewhere regarding what the problem is.)

Edited by Reciprocating Bill on May 12 2013,10:43

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,09:55   

I've also successfully logged into my account and posted a test post using Firefox.

ETA: Now Firefox is being bounced too. But it worked for a day or so.

In addition to reporting the domain name issues it reported a blocked popup (there was no such report when access was working). So I unblocked popups and an ad for business cards pops up. The address in the popup window is TSZ's address, however.

Clicking the AdChoices arrow in the corner of up popup takes me to a page at Microsoft. I don't know if this is standard behavior because I ordinarily have popups blocked in Safari and it doesn't give notifications when popup has been blocked.

Edited by Reciprocating Bill on May 12 2013,11:11

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,10:29   

It works for a while because the site is still up and can be accessed  by its IP address.

What is broken is DNS lookup,  which is cached by browsers for a while.

DNS  is broken because the registrar broke it for nonpayment.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,11:24   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 12 2013,11:29)
It works for a while because the site is still up and can be accessed by its IP address.

What is broken is DNS lookup, which is cached by browsers for a while.

DNS is broken because the registrar broke it for nonpayment.

I see. Bed springs eternal.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2013,12:51   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 12 2013,11:24)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 12 2013,11:29)
It works for a while because the site is still up and can be accessed by its IP address.

What is broken is DNS lookup, which is cached by browsers for a while.

DNS is broken because the registrar broke it for nonpayment.

I see. Bed springs eternal.

DNS is like a phone book. You have to pay to get listed. Register.com is one of several companies authorized by the internet gods to sell names. I don't really know who the gods are.

Mortals are only allowed to interact with demigods.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,06:29   

@ Lizzie

You might take a look at OVH.com as a hosting service. They throw in domain name registration for free which makes life simpler. I have used them as a service provider for 8 years or so with never a problem.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,07:22   

Quote (Alan Fox @ May 13 2013,06:29)
@ Lizzie

You might take a look at OVH.com as a hosting service. They throw in domain name registration for free which makes life simpler. I have used them as a service provider for 8 years or so with never a problem.

Thanks, I will.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,12:21   

OK, the domain name has been renewed.

Not sure how long it will take for the site to work. Hopefully not too long...

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,13:34   

They say 12-24 hours.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,14:10   

Works for me now.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,14:50   

Working intermittently for me.  I expect it'll settle down.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,18:31   

It's not working, again.  :(

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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,19:50   

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It's not working, again. :(

Could just be taking a bit for it to propagate through DNS.  Works here

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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2013,20:15   

It's working for me now.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,09:21   

It's still intermittent for me.  I guess the bugs will get out of the system eventually.

I've been having a hilarious conversation with what seems to be a support-bot at register.com.

I've given up trying to get any sense out of it.  Now it just posts:

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Recently you requested personal assistance from our on-line support center. Below is a summary of your request and our response.

If this issue is not resolved to your satisfaction, you may reopen by replying to this email.

Thank you for allowing us to be of service to you.


And when I do, I get the same message back.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,09:40   

I get the same kind of service from the FCC. Someone in my neighborhood has a rogue transmitter that intermittently blocks TV reception. There's no one left in the industry who can even read my complaint.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,10:38   

After the human species goes extinct, will the internet keep on going, sending useless messages from bot to bot?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,11:48   

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After the human species goes extinct, will the internet keep on going, sending useless messages from bot to bot?

I recall a "Twilight Zone" show when a plague has killed all but one man. He wanders around a deserted city. One day he hears a phone ringing. He rushed to find it. It stopped ringing just before he reached it. Days pass. When he finally picked up the receiver when it rang again - it was a recording.

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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,12:16   

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After the human species goes extinct, will the internet keep on going, sending useless messages from bot to bot?

There Will Come Soft Rains
http://www.dennissylvesterhurd.com/blog....ain.htm

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 14 2013,12:28   

Oh yes!  I'd forgotten.

Blimey.  It seemed so much less plausible when I read it back when.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2013,06:43   

Dr Elizabeth

Every attempt I make to log into TSZ (required to make a comment) is met with a login box that says I have to provide a username, password AND match a CATCHA pattern.

The problem is that no CAPTCHA pattern is displayed for me to attempt. Am I doing something wrong?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2013,07:16   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 14 2013,09:40)
I get the same kind of service from the FCC. Someone in my neighborhood has a rogue transmitter that intermittently blocks TV reception. There's no one left in the industry who can even read my complaint.

Suggest you get in touch with ARRL. Or, if it is an amateur station, any decent ham will do his best to help you. Or that's what I think, that's the way we do it here.

Sometimes the problem may have to be solved at the troubled site, even if the offending xmitter is ok.

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