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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,17:58   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2008,17:43)
Quote (bfish @ Mar. 25 2008,17:42)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,13:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

Ooh. Why yes, it IS playing in my fair city. Will be interesting to see if that actually comes to be.

And Occam, that was a nice prediction there.

Nope. No chicago.

Richard -  If you got puppet, they got openings...

As long as you put "Youth Councilor", "Pastor" or "Stuhrbanfuher" in the Title section of their Reservation Screen, and remember to not put in "Friend Of PZMeyers", I think they will save a seat for you.  

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:06   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 25 2008,16:17)
Well, no evidence from trolly so far.

Was anyone else wondering what made April 18 a weird release date?

On that day in 1802, Erasmus Darwin (grandfather of Charles) died, as did Einstein, in 1955. Also on this day in 1946, The League of Nations is dissolved. Weird, huh?

I wonder what their real reasons were for choosing this date. I hope it’s not the fact that it’s the one-year anniversary of the Supreme Court upholding the “Partial-Birth” Abortion Ban Act.

It must be this one:

 
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1958 - A U.S. federal court rules that poet Ezra Pound be released from an insane asylum.


Or was it this?

 
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1980 - The Republic of Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia) comes into being, with Canaan Banana as the country's first President.


Actually, it isn't that second one, I just wanted to draw attention to what must be the most totally excellent personal name in history.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:23   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 25 2008,16:58)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2008,17:43)
 
Quote (bfish @ Mar. 25 2008,17:42)
 
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,13:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

Ooh. Why yes, it IS playing in my fair city. Will be interesting to see if that actually comes to be.

And Occam, that was a nice prediction there.

Nope. No chicago.

Richard -  If you got puppet, they got openings...

As long as you put "Youth Councilor", "Pastor" or "Stuhrbanfuher" in the Title section of their Reservation Screen, and remember to not put in "Friend Of PZMeyers", I think they will save a seat for you.  

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* Denyse insisted

Field Marshal Doctor President William Dembski tenured professor, licensed garbageman and supreme astronaut? :)

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factician



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:23   

Quote (bfish @ Mar. 25 2008,18:42)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Mar. 25 2008,13:50)
Is this turd playing in your neighborhood?  Click here and find out.

Ooh. Why yes, it IS playing in my fair city. Will be interesting to see if that actually comes to be.

And Occam, that was a nice prediction there.

Yow, it's several hours away from me.  Apparently they think the fine folks within driving distance of the NIH/Hopkins/Rockville biotech corridor aren't interested in this turd.

Go figure.

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khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:38   

Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five...


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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,19:59   

[quote=J-Dog,Mar. 25 2008,17:58]
Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2008,17:43)

Also on the Do Not Admit List:
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* Denyse insisted

I ran a report about that a long time ago on my blog. It seems relevant here.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,20:21   

I wish they'd hurry up and schedule a screening here in Jacksonville, NC.

I have a great red party dress I've only gotten to wear once.

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:07   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,20:21)
I have a great red party dress I've only gotten to wear once.

Tease.

Heh, its not showing in Oklahoma.

A Creationist movie.

Not showing in Oklahoma.

LOL!!

  
Reed



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:22   

A game we can play!
According to: http://www.newscientist.com/blog....ed.html
     
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Some arguing ensued concerning the scientific merits of ID, and someone asked, "Where's the evidence? Where are the peer reviewed papers?" to which Mathis proudly proclaimed, "Actually, there are ten peer reviewed papers."

Leaving aside just how pathetic* that is, it would be quite interesting to get a list of those papers. This leads to the game:

Guess how many papers will be left after you remove those that
- Don't actually exist. Startlingly, some evidence suggests that Mathis might occasionally engage in fibbing.
- Were published by some Sternbergian subterfuge.
- Were not published in recognized, credible scientific journals, but rather in the likes of IDs own PCID, AiGs Answers Research Journal, or popular press.
- Have been retracted like the infamous Warda/Han paper.
- Are written by people who do not accept ID and do not believe their work supports ID. The ID movement has a long history of claiming as their own papers for the simple fact they contain the word "design" in the abstract.

I'll open with a guess of 1

* We might consider how many scientists named Steve have individually published more papers on evolution than the ten claimed by Mathis as the total output of ID.

  
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:25   

Quote (Reed @ Mar. 25 2008,21:22)
A game we can play!
According to: http://www.newscientist.com/blog....ed.html
       
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Some arguing ensued concerning the scientific merits of ID, and someone asked, "Where's the evidence? Where are the peer reviewed papers?" to which Mathis proudly proclaimed, "Actually, there are ten peer reviewed papers."

Leaving aside just how pathetic* that is, it would be quite interesting to get a list of those papers. This leads to the game:

Guess how many papers will be left after you remove those that
- Don't actually exist. Startlingly, some evidence suggests that Mathis might occasionally engage in fibbing.
- Were published by some Sternbergian subterfuge.
- Were not published in recognized, credible scientific journals, but rather in the likes of IDs own PCID, AiGs Answers Research Journal, or popular press.
- Have been retracted like the infamous Warda/Han paper.
- Are written by people who do not accept ID and do not believe their work supports ID. The ID movement has a long history of claiming as their own papers for the simple fact they contain the word "design" in the abstract.

I'll open with a guess of 1

* We might consider how many scientists named Steve have individually published more papers on evolution than the ten claimed by Mathis as the total output of ID.

Well, 'Jerry' at UD recently claimed that ALL genome research is ID research whether the researcher realizes it or not, so if Mathis had been more on the ball, he could have cited a much higher number.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:37   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,06:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

Wes, You would make one great PI.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:44   

Quote (blader @ Mar. 25 2008,10:28)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,09:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

I figured it would come to this.

They are going to have to go underground and into secretive mode with their pre-screening.  They'll hold pre-screenings, but they won't tell anybody where they'll be.

Which is hilarious in so many ways if the entire point of the pre-screening campaign was to generate a buzz and interest for the broader big screen rollout.

There is some reason here to wonder if they really do have a contract to get it distributed or if that too is a bunch of BS

I know Flock of Dodo's tried hard but was never signed up for something like that.  It doesn't sound like expelled is the sort of movie you'd ever see at the Mall 16 unless it is underwritten by big, deep and really stupid pockets.

I don't see how they can flush their "buzz machine" and make an April 18th opening.

I have a director/editor nextdoor, and he tells me that you can mess with schedules all that the budget will allow- before you have contracted/announced your opening.  Theaters must know that the advertising and the product will come together at the same time.  They are going to have dead screens, and dead screens cost lots of money.

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steve_h



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,21:45   

Quote (Reed @ Mar. 26 2008,03:22)
http://www.newscientist.com/blog....ed.html
         
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Dear anonymous (if that's your real name),

That's got to be an oldy but nevertheless, I love it so.

  
JAM



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,22:02   

Quote (Reed @ Mar. 25 2008,21:22)
A game we can play!
According to: http://www.newscientist.com/blog....ed.html
     
Quote

Some arguing ensued concerning the scientific merits of ID, and someone asked, "Where's the evidence? Where are the peer reviewed papers?" to which Mathis proudly proclaimed, "Actually, there are ten peer reviewed papers."

Leaving aside just how pathetic* that is, it would be quite interesting to get a list of those papers. This leads to the game:

Guess how many papers will be left after you remove those that

...have any new data from testing a hypothesis: 1

...have any new data from testing an ID hypothesis, not a misrepresentation of an ID hypothesis: 0

It should be about new data, not peer review.

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,22:16   

I can’t keep up. I dubed the press release as lie ver 5.01. But, that doesn’t do justice to all the lies the creationists are telling on this one.

I offered the following preliminary list at PT:

V. 1, PZ was “hustling people in line.”

v. 2, PZ was recognized and it was feared he would disrupt the movie.

v. 3, It amuzed Mark Mathis to kick PZ out, and make him pay to see himself after the movie release.

v. 4.1, Myers was kicked out, but Dawkins was let in because Dawkins had been a decent sort, and PZ had said bad things. (v. 4.2 This had all been descided in advance).

v. 5, PZ was kicked out and threatened with arrest to teach him a lessen.

There was also “PZ was kicked out because he didn’t have a ticket” which was the v. 0.0 beta they used while throwing him out of the Mall of America.

The sick irony of that deserves more comment that I have the stomach for right now.

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didymos



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 25 2008,23:16   

OK, here's my personal theory as to what really happened: PZ wasn't "hustling and bothering" as Stewie Blesshisheart thought, but rather he was hustling and flowing.  He wasn't even there to see the movie at all, but was rather trying to get a demo of his latest jam "It's Hard Out There For A Shrimp" into the hands of SkinnyBrit, a.k.a HolyGhostFaceKillah, a.k.a. The Muthafuckin' MCDawk.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,00:02   

Quote (ERV @ Mar. 25 2008,22:07)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Mar. 25 2008,20:21)
I have a great red party dress I've only gotten to wear once.

Tease.

Not I.

I deliver.

(The occasion was my Aunt Helen's viewing.  Full story in those posts, but the pictures are in The Moment For Which You've All Been Waiting.  WARNING:  NOT FOR THE WEAK OF STOMACH OR FAINT OF HEART!)

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,00:05   

Quote (Dr.GH @ Mar. 25 2008,21:44)
Quote (blader @ Mar. 25 2008,10:28)
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 25 2008,09:05)
It looks like the remaining screenings are being completely reorganized and re-scheduled.

That's too bad. I've been collecting information about Michigan's statute 338 that applies to private security businesses and their employees. As I expected, such companies have to be bonded, and employees are issued identification cards. What I hadn't known was that was a felony for someone to falsely represent themselves as an employee of a private security business if they are not, in fact, an employee of a firm in compliance and bonded.

If Minnesota law is similar, PZ or others could see about getting an investigation into whether Mr. Security Guard at that screening was really a bona fide professional, or just someone in the entourage with a costume.

Michigan law, by the way, really appears to have it in for folks who make up fake shields and badges.

I figured it would come to this.

They are going to have to go underground and into secretive mode with their pre-screening.  They'll hold pre-screenings, but they won't tell anybody where they'll be.

Which is hilarious in so many ways if the entire point of the pre-screening campaign was to generate a buzz and interest for the broader big screen rollout.

There is some reason here to wonder if they really do have a contract to get it distributed or if that too is a bunch of BS

I know Flock of Dodo's tried hard but was never signed up for something like that.  It doesn't sound like expelled is the sort of movie you'd ever see at the Mall 16 unless it is underwritten by big, deep and really stupid pockets.

I don't see how they can flush their "buzz machine" and make an April 18th opening.

I have a director/editor nextdoor, and he tells me that you can mess with schedules all that the budget will allow- before you have contracted/announced your opening.  Theaters must know that the advertising and the product will come together at the same time.  They are going to have dead screens, and dead screens cost lots of money.

Oh shit. Any guesses as to what's going to happen?

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,00:07   

Quote (didymos @ Mar. 26 2008,00:16)
He wasn't even there to see the movie at all, but was rather trying to get a demo of his latest jam "It's Hard Out There For A Shrimp" into the hands of SkinnyBrit, a.k.a HolyGhostFaceKillah, a.k.a. The Muthafuckin' MCDawk.

That right there cracked me up.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,00:50   

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Yes, yes, I know. You want to see the damned pictures of Lou FCD in the red dress he wore to his Aunt Helen’s viewing.

No, I actually haven't the slightest interest.  So, you may rest easy that there is no pressure at all that might possibly encourage you to publicly reveal such a private moment.  Thanks anyway, but no thanks.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,01:00   

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Arden Chatfield wrote:
Actually, it isn't that second one, I just wanted to draw attention to what must be the most totally excellent personal name in history."


A good Biblical name, too.

From Wiki: Canaan Sodindo Banana (5 March 1936-10 November 2003) served as the first President of Zimbabwe from 18 April, 1980 until 31 December, 1987. A Methodist minister, he held the largely ceremonial office of the presidency while his eventual successor, Robert Mugabe, served as Prime Minister. ... His later life is tainted by charges of sodomy, which he denied and for which he was later imprisoned.

Sodomy charges and imprisonment
The former president's later years were clouded by scandal. In 1997, Rev. Banana was arrested in Zimbabwe on charges of sodomy, following accusations made during the murder trial of his former bodyguard, Jefta Dube.[1] The charges related to accusations that Banana had misused his authority while he was president to coerce numerous men in positions of service (ranging from domestic staff to security guards, and even members of sports teams for whom he had acted as referee) into accepting sexual advances. He was found guilty of 11 charges of sodomy, attempted sodomy and indecent assault in 1998. He denied all charges, saying that they were "a mortuary of pathological lies" intended to destroy his political career.[3] He fled to South Africa while on bail before he could be imprisoned, apparently believing Mugabe was planning his death. He returned to Zimbabwe in December 1998, after a meeting with Nelson Mandela. Banana was sentenced on January 18, 1999 to ten years in jail, nine years suspended and he was also defrocked. He served two years in prison before being released in January 2001, and died of cancer in 2003 in London, according to the Zimbabwean High Commissioner. The Guardian Unlimited, however, claims that Banana had travelled to South Africa, where he eventually died, in order to receive appropriate treatment for his cancer.[1] He was buried in Zimbabwe without the full honours expected to be accorded a former head of state.[2] His wife, Janet Banana, sought asylum in Britain in October 2000.[2]

Ray Comfort would die for this man's name.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,01:01   

Quote (BWE @ Mar. 25 2008,22:05)
Oh shit. Any guesses as to what's going to happen?

I am not sure at all.  The release might not actually have many screens locked, and those were given a guarantee.  If the producers have mega-psycho-creato money, they might be able to front a lot of screens.  Producers use other people's money, so at this point they can tank the movie, go straight to DVD, and blame the evil Darwinists for blocking their Oscar.  They get paid anyway.  If the film is as crappy as everyone says, then I would guess they have just taken the up-front money.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 25 2008,23:04

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,01:05   

http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwi....8308248

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Okay, Rich, I've identified your two lines of attack: Ad hominem and guilt by association. Both of them make me strongly suspect that you are severely lacking in substance. But just to give you the benefit of the doubt, what's all this substance I've missed out on? I've been busy, and I don't have time to wade through hundreds of comments. Fire away. Ask me five questions and I'll answer them in a blog post.



FIVE GOOD QUESTIONS, PEOPLE.

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Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,01:24   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2008,23:05)
http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwi....8308248

 
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Okay, Rich, I've identified your two lines of attack: Ad hominem and guilt by association. Both of them make me strongly suspect that you are severely lacking in substance. But just to give you the benefit of the doubt, what's all this substance I've missed out on? I've been busy, and I don't have time to wade through hundreds of comments. Fire away. Ask me five questions and I'll answer them in a blog post.



FIVE GOOD QUESTIONS, PEOPLE.

Go for one question per day, max.  He gets the next question when the preceding one is finished.

Edited by Dr.GH on Mar. 25 2008,23:25

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,01:28   

Quote (ERV @ Mar. 25 2008,21:07)
Heh, its not showing in Oklahoma.

A Creationist movie.

Not showing in Oklahoma.

LOL!!

Actually, it is.
 
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Quail Springs 24       2501 W. Memorial                    Oklahoma City
Southroads 20         4923 E. 41st St.                       Tulsa
Tinseltown 20          6001 Matin Luther King Blvd.    Oklahoma City

But, for the moment anyways: It's not playing in Norman! It's not playing in Norman!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,02:21   

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 25 2008,23:05)
http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwi....8308248

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Okay, Rich, I've identified your two lines of attack: Ad hominem and guilt by association. Both of them make me strongly suspect that you are severely lacking in substance. But just to give you the benefit of the doubt, what's all this substance I've missed out on? I've been busy, and I don't have time to wade through hundreds of comments. Fire away. Ask me five questions and I'll answer them in a blog post.



FIVE GOOD QUESTIONS, PEOPLE.

Why have the film makers assumed that creationists have been expelled because they are creationsits?  I think they were expelled for being incompetent.  Sternberg wasn't even expelled at all, nor Behe.  Dembski could have salvaged his job at Baylor if he hadn't been such a prick that nobody liked him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,02:30   

Mr. Miller is a bit slippery, or memory-deficient.  In response to a post on the thread where he promised to answer questions he wrote:

 
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Nestor: We didn't even have a finished rough cut of the film last October. And we didn't begin showing it to people until December. And we never showed it at an AMC in San Diego. Remember that thing I said about not trusting anything said by someone who won't even tell me his real name? I'm sorry, but you've just proven me right.
Posted by: Kevin Miller | March 25, 2008 at 11:42 PM


So, I responded with :

 
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Kevin, I suggest you go here:
http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/events/list

Please take note of the following:

CA San Diego AMC Mission Valley 20* October 11 7:00pm Done

What the hell? How hard was that?

Posted by: Thomas S. Howard | March 26, 2008 at 12:14 AM


I don't have any questions to offer, just the observation that they ought to be as airtight and evidence-buttressed as possible if this is the kind of crap he can be expected to pull.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,05:17   

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Heh, its not showing in Oklahoma.

A Creationist movie.

Not showing in Oklahoma.

LOL!!

Actually, it is.
   
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Quail Springs 24       2501 W. Memorial                    Oklahoma City
Southroads 20         4923 E. 41st St.                       Tulsa
Tinseltown 20          6001 Matin Luther King Blvd.    Oklahoma City

But, for the moment anyways: It's not playing in Norman! It's not playing in Norman!

After what Abby did there, I'd be surprised if any creationist copyright infringement media shows up there again.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,05:27   

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Mr. Miller is a bit slippery, or memory-deficient.  In response to a post on the thread where he promised to answer questions he wrote:

 
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Nestor: We didn't even have a finished rough cut of the film last October. And we didn't begin showing it to people until December. And we never showed it at an AMC in San Diego. Remember that thing I said about not trusting anything said by someone who won't even tell me his real name? I'm sorry, but you've just proven me right.
Posted by: Kevin Miller | March 25, 2008 at 11:42 PM


So, I responded with :

 
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Kevin, I suggest you go here:
http://rsvp.getexpelled.com/events/events/list

Please take note of the following:

CA San Diego AMC Mission Valley 20* October 11 7:00pm Done

What the hell? How hard was that?

Posted by: Thomas S. Howard | March 26, 2008 at 12:14 AM


I don't have any questions to offer, just the observation that they ought to be as airtight and evidence-buttressed as possible if this is the kind of crap he can be expected to pull.

This is Creationist standard operating procedure.  I see by your number of posts that you have not been here long.  The regulars here have been taking screenshots of Creationist  blogs and webpages for future reference for years, in order to counter exactly that kind of lies.  When debating on a Creationist blog, it is common to copy and paste your response to here, in order that you have a copy when the Creationist doesn't print your response.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 26 2008,06:03   

Well, in this case, he did allow the reply; but you know, I figured better safe than sorry.

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