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bystander



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,21:25   

Quote (kevinmillerxi @ Mar. 24 2008,04:54)
Hey Richard: As I said on my blog, as a documentary filmmaker, I'm under no obligation to be objective. As a journalist supposedly reporting the news for a major daily, Cornelia Hunter is.

That's the first step - admiting to not being objective. How many steps until the admission that the movie is just outright lying. Is it a seven step program like AA?

  
Reed



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,23:28   

Quote (bystander @ Mar. 23 2008,19:23)
No doubt many of you would have read  Dawkins' review of the movie. I wonder if Kevin will include this and enlighten us where it was unfair? I think that it might have been too facty for him.

No, he has this cunning riposte.
         
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...If it's so "poorly constructed and utterly devoid of any style, wit or subtlety," why doesn't he just take a cue from Eugenie Scott and ignore it? Methinks you protest way too much, Sir Richard.

Let me guess, Kevin, if he had ignored it, you'd say "See Richard Dawkins didn't have any criticism of it!"

More seriously, while I wouldn't deign to speak for Dawkins, I can think of a few reasons off the top of my head.

  • Genuinely interested in promoting public understanding of science.
  • Personally opposed to attempts to pass religiously motivated bullshit off as science.
  • Offended by attempts to associate his profession with Nazism.
  • Offended by attempts to associate his personal philosophy with Nazism.
  • Offended by being tricked into participating in the film.
  • Offended by the producers treatment of his colleague.
  • Is a militant atheist, and sees easy opportunity show religious wackos for idiots and assholes they are with minimum effort.
  • Is pissed he let PZ carry the AK this time.

Or who knows Kevin, maybe he really really loved it but doesn't know how to express himself well ?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,23:55   

Some people are critiquing things in the movie while it is in its final editing phase.

Others will only criticize it after it has been committed to a final form and released.

One shouldn't mistake the silence so far of people in the second group for any sort of complacency concerning the movie.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,23:57   

Quote (Reed @ Mar. 24 2008,00:28)
Quote (bystander @ Mar. 23 2008,19:23)
No doubt many of you would have read  Dawkins' review of the movie. I wonder if Kevin will include this and enlighten us where it was unfair? I think that it might have been too facty for him.

No, he has this cunning riposte.
         
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...If it's so "poorly constructed and utterly devoid of any style, wit or subtlety," why doesn't he just take a cue from Eugenie Scott and ignore it? Methinks you protest way too much, Sir Richard.

Let me guess, Kevin, if he had ignored it, you'd say "See Richard Dawkins didn't have any criticism of it!"

More seriously, while I wouldn't deign to speak for Dawkins, I can think of a few reasons off the top of my head.

  • Genuinely interested in promoting public understanding of science.
  • Personally opposed to attempts to pass religiously motivated bullshit off as science.
  • Offended by attempts to associate his profession with Nazism.
  • Offended by attempts to associate his personal philosophy with Nazism.
  • Offended by being tricked into participating in the film.
  • Offended by the producers treatment of his colleague.
  • Is a militant atheist, and sees easy opportunity show religious wackos for idiots and assholes they are with minimum effort.
  • Is pissed he let PZ carry the AK this time.

Or who knows Kevin, maybe he really really loved it but doesn't know how to express himself well ?

When a propagangist like Miller smears a lot of good people, it's only natural that some of them are going to object.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,23:58   

Expelled Exposed has added a couple of links to the site, one on Expelledgate and another from Popular Science.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 23 2008,23:58   

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More seriously, while I wouldn't deign to speak for Dawkins, I can think of a few reasons off the top of my head.

Deign? I think what you mean is that you wouldn't presume to speak for Dawkins.
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Is it a seven step program like AA?

They have a whopping twelve steps.

And, yes, they're all sad and sorry SOBs.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,00:04   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Mar. 23 2008,21:55)
One shouldn't mistake the silence so far of people in the second group for any sort of complacency concerning the movie.

Indeed, that part of Kevins comment is as clueless as the rest considering the the NCSE (of which Eugenie Scott is listed as executive director) has a web sited dedicated to the movie.

jupiter
You are correct.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,01:42   

We're having a lot of fun at what idiots the Expelled people are proving to be. Here's a good bit from Dawkins:

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Many people have wondered why, if PZ was expelled, I managed to get in. This has been adduced as further evidence of Mathis' bungling incompetence, but I think that is unfair. It was easy for Mathis to spot PZ Myers' name on the list of those registering in advance. Like all guests, my name was not on any list, and therefore Mathis didn't spot me. So I think he can be absolved of stupidity in not spotting me. But convicted of extreme stupidity in expelling PZ when he spotted him. What was he afraid of? What did he think PZ would do, open fire with a Kalashnikov? Now that I think about it, that would have been all-of-a-piece with the overblown paranoia displayed throughout the film itself.


PZ would say that it was a good day, because he didn't even have to use his A.K.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,01:48   

I haven't seen this anywhere, but I might be repeating what someone else has already done.

I did a little checking of domain names for Expelled the Movie, and here's what I found:

The name "expelledthemovie" was registered for all of the following domain extensions on 02 March 2007:

.com .net .biz .us .org .info

In addition, "expelledmovie.com" was registered on April 5th, 2007 (it redirects to the main site).  Probably just as insurance against mistyping, but an additional "smoking gun" nonetheless.

Seems to me that this is a pretty concerted effort to cover all the bases domain-wise for the title they had decided upon.  Certainly no one has come up with anything similar for "Crossroads".

"getexpelled.com" was registered on 26th Oct 2007, no doubt when they came up with their marketing campaign, and "getexpelled.net" was added on 31st Dec 2007.

Interestingly, "expelledthemoviesucks" was registered for the domain extensions .com .net .org. and .info on 6th Sep 2007, but the registrant details are private.  My guess is that they were registered by the Expelled people as domains ending in "sucks" tend to be registered by (lame) critics of the company or merchandise being advertised. But it could equally have been someone opposed to the movie.

"themovieexpelled.com" was registered in Jan 2008, but looks like a domain squatting exercise (or critic, of course).

FYI, "expelledthedvd" is still available for all domain extensions, and they don't seem to have bothered with country-specific domain names.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,08:44   

NEWSFLASH!!!!  Sal Cordova confirms Expelled producers less than forthright approach to interviews!
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I don’t have a publicly available quote on hand but I remember hearing via private email exchanges that the ID proponents who were interviewed were similarly not given a full explanation of the producer’s long term intentions. I think Sal Cordova was one of them? So if it’s true that Allen was “misled” or “lied to” then so were the ID proponents being interviewed.


That is correct.

I was filmed for the movie as well…

The ID side were given the same line that this was for the documentary “Crossroads”.

I felt uncomfortable with the way they secured the interviews as it did not seem completely forthright and appeared deceptive.

Although, at this point, if there is a question of the ethics of how evidence was gathered, it will probably increase the publc interest to see the movie. Have I ever lost interest in a journalistic piece because the journalist lied in order to acquire facts (like Celeste Biever)? I can’t recall that I ever had less interest as a result…

Bolding mine, but it appears that Sal is also confirming that lying is a good thing when the cause is righteous.  Thanks, Sal!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,09:33   

Since it hasn't been posted yet:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....his.php

Mark Mathis:
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You should know that I invited Michael shermer to a screening at NRB in Nashville. He came and is writing a review for scientific American. I banned pz because I want him to pay to see it. Nothing more.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,09:35   

Quote (Nerull @ Mar. 24 2008,09:33)
Since it hasn't been posted yet:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyng....his.php

Mark Mathis:
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You should know that I invited Michael shermer to a screening at NRB in Nashville. He came and is writing a review for scientific American. I banned pz because I want him to pay to see it. Nothing more.

Meow! Sour grapes a go go.

Any more screenings cancelled? Is this film going straight to DVD Church?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,09:38   

Quote (Reed @ Mar. 23 2008,22:28)
   
Quote (bystander @ Mar. 23 2008,19:23)
No doubt many of you would have read  Dawkins' review of the movie. I wonder if Kevin will include this and enlighten us where it was unfair? I think that it might have been too facty for him.

No, he has this cunning riposte.
               
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...If it's so "poorly constructed and utterly devoid of any style, wit or subtlety," why doesn't he just take a cue from Eugenie Scott and ignore it? Methinks you protest way too much, Sir Richard.

Let me guess, Kevin, if he had ignored it, you'd say "See Richard Dawkins didn't have any criticism of it!"

*In response Kevin's clumsy attempt at damage control, Kristine thus ignores Kevin's blog* :)

It's clear that he's lonely over there, and it's not my job to help him out.

On a related note, the domain breathtakinginanity.org is available - appropriate after having seen this screening with an audience comprised mostly of Bill Buckinghams ("We need to teach creationism in our schools!").

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,09:42   

Mark Mathis has informed the town crier, Denyse O'Leary:
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You should know that I invited Michael shermer to a screening at NRB in Nashville. He came and is writing a review for scientific American. I banned pz because I want him to pay to see it. Nothing more.

Please excuse me while I crawl beneath my desk for a good laugh! :D

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,09:52   

Based on the early reviews, someone should lock up the following Domain names- I think you would be able to sell them at a premium very soon:

ExpelledTheRazzieAwardWinningMovie

ExpelledTheTard

ExpelledTheWorstMovieEverMade

ExpelledHaHaThisIsYou

ExpelledWeMeantToDoThat

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,10:14   

ExpelledTheContentsOfMyColon

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,10:22   

Quote (J-Dog @ Mar. 24 2008,08:52)
Based on the early reviews, someone should lock up the following Domain names- I think you would be able to sell them at a premium very soon:

ExpelledTheRazzieAwardWinningMovie

ExpelledTheTard

ExpelledTheWorstMovieEverMade

ExpelledHaHaThisIsYou

ExpelledWeMeantToDoThat

Expelledblows.com and .org are available. And they have a nice tie-in on my blog (where I joked that one could get a blowjob for less than the $10 that Mathis wants PZ to pay). (No, I don't know specifically where these service are available. Quit asking me!;) :D

Can one get a hangover from laughing? Thursday night was scary and infuriating. The rest of the weekend has been a romp! The cherry on the top of this whole Darwin -> Nazis/Commies [I thought they warred against each other?] -> eugenics pie was the theist at the American Atheist convention who started railing that secular culture -> Nazis/Commies -> 20th century art and Jackson Pollock.

Jackson Pollock, for the love of pi.

Anyone see something wrong with a conservative Jew echoing the sentiments of Joseph Goebbels, who railed against the same "degenerate" modern art (thought not specifically, of course, Pollock, who came later). What is it with this Nazi/Communist obsession?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,10:52   

Quote (Kristine @ Mar. 24 2008,10:22)
What is it with this Nazi/Communist obsession?

Kristine - I think you bring up a good point.  IMO, Fundies just need to be dominated.  They don't seem to care if it's Nazis, Commies, or The One True God.

They should however,  be thankful that you are a witch, instead of a Dominatrix, or you could make them cluck about nothing and jumping up and down like chickens with their heads cut off.

Oh. wait.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,12:36   

It turns out that Mark Mathis has been padding his audiences with his own staff, to open-mindedly yell "Shut up!" at questioners during the Q&A.
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Some arguing ensued concerning the scientific merits of ID, and someone asked, "Where's the evidence? Where are the peer reviewed papers?" to which Mathis proudly proclaimed, "Actually, there are ten peer reviewed papers."

A guy in the front row scoffed. "Ten papers?" he asked sarcastically.

Mathis told the guy not to interrupt, and then mockingly called him "Mr Darwinist." Zing!

He began calling on others in the crowd, who asked friendlier questions. But Maggie and I quickly realised that we'd seen some of these people before - earlier that evening, in fact, working at the movie's registration table. These friendly audience members worked for the film? Had Mathis planted questioners?

People asked what they could do to help the film succeed, and a young woman in the front row inquired: "How can I pray for you and for the movie?" Mathis grew excited. "We need to start a grass roots movement!" he said, encouraging people to tell their "networks" about the movie and to get as many people as they could to go on opening weekend.

Another man in the front row wondered about the film's premise that supporters of ID are being silenced. He pointed out that a recent trial about the teaching of intelligent design held in Dover, Pennsylvania, gave supporters of intelligent design all the time in the world to make their case, but most of the 'leading lights' of ID didn't even show up.

When Mathis was responding, the guy asked another question, and the producer shot back, "How about you let me finish talking?" Then, a security guard for the film approached the calmly seated man and told him, "I may have to ask you to leave."

"Does anyone else see how ironic this is?" the guy asked.

"Shut up!" someone shouted from the back.

*Leans forehead into hand*

Expelled: PZ, Darwin, and Now, Jackson Pollock

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,13:42   

This.

Is.

The.

Best.

Thread.

Ever.

Kristine, I love you. Shimmy, hugs, whatever you've got going.

Count me among your hardcore fan base.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,13:55   

I am so sad they cancelled the tard fest.  I was going to make the 4 hour drive to San Antonion to watch this steaming bowl of right wing fundy slop and they've cancelled the screenings.

Why???  Did they lose their night vision goggles or?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:29   

I checked google trends and the word "expelled" has never been more-googled-for. Ever. Correlation with "expelled movie" is there to demonstrate causation, since "expelled" by itself can refer to stuff other than the movie.

Contrary to a certain saying, I think there is such a thing as bad publicity, and this is it. Generic "controversy" may attract people to raw entertainment on an opening weekend, but real success for Expelled is measured in apparent legitimacy for creationism rather than by ratings. Further, controversy only gets people in for a couple of days- word of mouth will quickly shred any entertainment that is not, you know, entertaining thereafter. Logically incoherent propaganda can be made entertaining, but if Expelled fails at doing this half as badly as is reported I think it's pretty doomed.

Re: Pulled showings, I'm starting to consider that they really aren't going to release it at all. As in, they plan to say they've been persecuted and show the film in church basements, as has been speculated for a long time. They don't seem to be acting like people expecting to open to a national audience in a few short weeks. They're acting like they're terrified of publicity. Say what you want about Michael Moore, he transitioned fairly smoothly from semi-obscure filmmaker to a maniacal public figure and screen presence. He's not terrified of publicity. Trying to be a conservative Michael Moore without embracing publicity is five kinds of retarded, and Mathis can't be that dumb, right?

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:43   

I wonder if the "security guard" is someone in the "Expelled" production crew who likes to play dress-up. The behavior noted so far of this "security guard" seems far too independent for rented muscle.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:53   

They could have pulled the screenings for any number of reasons.

One reason could be the Cell as a City animation which was clearly lifted from Harvard since the creationists haven't done a lick of work to put together a simulation like that in the first place.  Do they even imply that creation scientists figured out how these "molecular machines" operate?  Two minutes of fact checking would answer that question.

The other reason they may be pulling the screenings is that they can't control who is in the audience as tightly as they thought.  For crying out loud they let in Richard Freaking Dawkins and members of his Foundation.  Once people start asking sane and specific questions in the Q&A they are quickly reduced to insults and expelling.

As for killing the entire project, that is a real possibility.  This is going to be an easy film to discredit because so much of the "documentary" is in the public record.  Right, Kevin?

Ben Stein said in an interview that dozens and dozens and dozens of scientists have lost their jobs, their grants, etc.  Let's see, 6 dozen is at least 72 people.  I recall an interview with one of the producers who said that they interviewed "hundreds" of people who had been persecuted and expelled.  Where are all these people?  Why do we see the usual creationist suspects:  Sternberg, Crocker, Gonzalez, Behe, Dembski, Marks, etc?

No, the entire premise of the film is bogus.  It won't survive the slightest scrutiny.  How can they release Expelled to the public when it's the public who will be their most vocal critic?  

I'll give them credit for one thing.  No Intelligence Allowed.  They got that part right.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,15:55   

Quote (BWE @ Mar. 24 2008,12:42)
This.

Is.

The.

Best.

Thread.

Ever.

Kristine, I love you. Shimmy, hugs, whatever you've got going.

Count me among your hardcore fan base.

Thanks, man. :) In a perverse way, this has been fun.

Rev. Barky said to me, "It's like being superheroes, living this double life, having these adventures, and now we have to go back to the office."

I think I saw a badge with a number on that cop.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:02   

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Ben Stein said in an interview that dozens and dozens and dozens of scientists have lost their jobs, their grants, etc.  Let's see, 6 dozen is at least 72 people.  I recall an interview with one of the producers who said that they interviewed "hundreds" of people who had been persecuted and expelled.  Where are all these people?  Why do we see the usual creationist suspects:  Sternberg, Crocker, Gonzalez, Behe, Dembski, Marks, etc?


Last I heard, Sternberg, Behe, Dembski, and Marks all still had their jobs. Gonzalez got denied tenure because he brought in no grant money, had no students, and did no research. I think the DI is getting a little desperate for martyrs.

Oh yes, I forgot: "Those scientists say such MEAN things about them! That's persecution too, you know!!!"

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:04   

Two points:

(1) Good for Kevin miller for letting posts go through on his blog (all but one of mine)

(2) Its a shame he doesn't try to address any of the substantial criticisms. I suspect deep down he now knows ID isn't science and the whole endeavour is dishonest.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:23   

Oh - they can't seem to come up with a consistent account.

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-190425

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03/24/2008

4:11 pm
Rather than speculate, how about some facts.
Eyewitness Stuart Blessman reports:

I just happened to be standing directly in line behind Dawkins’ academic colleague. Management of the movie theatre saw a man apparently hustling and bothering several invited attendees, apparently trying to disrupt the viewing or sneak in. Management then approached the man, asked him if he had a ticket, and when he confirmed that he didn’t, they then escorted him off the premises. Nowhere was one of the film’s producers to be found, and the man certainly didn’t identify himself. If a producer had been nearby, it’s possible that he would have been admitted, but the theatre’s management didn’t want to take any chances.

”Richard Dawkins crashes the party at a screening of “Expelled”” By JEFFREY OVERSTREET, ExpelledTheMovie.com March 20, 2008


how is that the same as:

http://kevinwrites.typepad.com/otherwi....rd.html

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And now, a word from Mark Mathis
“Yes, I turned Mr. Myers away. He was not an invited guest of Premise Media. This was a private screening of an unfinished film. I could have let him in, just as I invited Michael Shermer to a screening in Nashville. Shermer is in the film as well. But, in light of Myers’ untruthful blogging about ‘Expelled’ I decided it was better to have him wait until April 18 and pay to see the film. Others, notable others, were permitted to see the film. At a private screening it’s my call."



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,16:36   

And also let's not forget "I kicked PZ out because I wanted him to buy a ticket."

I say we take all the different accounts that the Creationists are offering, assign each one a number, and every morning they can draw one at random. All day long, that can be the explanation they use. It should be easier for them to stay on-message that way.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 24 2008,20:40   

I wish I had known the circus was in town in November, only a mile or two from my house.  Ah well.

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