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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2013,14:00   

Quote (timothya @ May 21 2013,06:43)
Dr Elizabeth

Every attempt I make to log into TSZ (required to make a comment) is met with a login box that says I have to provide a username, password AND match a CATCHA pattern.

The problem is that no CAPTCHA pattern is displayed for me to attempt. Am I doing something wrong?

When I log in It gives me a username and a simple calc for the password.

This is on top of the normal username and password.

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Cubist



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(Permalink) Posted: May 21 2013,16:57   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 21 2013,14:00)
Quote (timothya @ May 21 2013,06:43)
Dr Elizabeth

Every attempt I make to log into TSZ (required to make a comment) is met with a login box that says I have to provide a username, password AND match a CATCHA pattern.

The problem is that no CAPTCHA pattern is displayed for me to attempt. Am I doing something wrong?

When I log in It gives me a username and a simple calc for the password.

This is on top of the normal username and password.

I believe that what you've described is the additional "line of defense" which was installed after TSZ got hacked. Once you fill in that form, you'll get a second form which is the form you'll fill in to actually log in.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,04:46   

Elizabeth, after seeing gordo's latest comments-off sermon at UD, do you still think that he couldn't be accurately labeled as psychotic and psychopathic by what he says on the internet? :)

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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,05:05   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,10:46)
Elizabeth, after seeing gordo's latest comments-off sermon at UD, do you still think that he couldn't be accurately labeled as psychotic and psychopathic by what he says on the internet? :)

I think he's more accurately labelled as a pompous asswipe.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,05:10   

Quote (Soapy Sam @ May 23 2013,03:05)
Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,10:46)
Elizabeth, after seeing gordo's latest comments-off sermon at UD, do you still think that he couldn't be accurately labeled as psychotic and psychopathic by what he says on the internet? :)

I think he's more accurately labelled as a pompous asswipe.

That too. :)

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,06:09   

timothya: are you still having problems?

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,06:18   

I think KF is a classic example of what happens when you become so convinced that there is a conspiracy against your own views that you cut yourself off from any possibility of being persuaded by a counter-view.

Once you consider that all counter-views are, a priori, not to be trusted, then you have painted yourself into a corner.

It's not unique to religious people, or to the right.  I saw it happen on the left over the idea that Kerry had really won more votes than Bush, but that those votes had been stolen electronically.  Anybody proposing a counter-view was a priori considered a shill for Bush, and any counter-fact a fabrication.

Once you distrust all sources that tend to infirm your own conclusion you are stuck with it, whether it's right or wrong.  That's fundamentally why free speech and freedom of information are so important.  Not because they are prime "human rights" (freedom from hunger and poverty are more important IMO) but because when they are undermined, knowledge becomes impossible.  And knowledge is good.

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Arctodus23



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,07:59   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,04:46)
Elizabeth, after seeing gordo's latest comments-off sermon at UD, do you still think that he couldn't be accurately labeled as psychotic and psychopathic by what he says on the internet? :)

He's correctly labeled, "An IGNORAMUS!!!!"

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,08:41   

Despite his multi-thousand word posts,  KF only has one idea that has any utility,  and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,09:00   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,06:41)
Despite his multi-thousand word posts, KF only has one idea that has any utility, and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

"Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin."

Do you know which page numbers?

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,11:33   

Quote (Febble @ May 23 2013,04:18)
Once you distrust all sources that tend to infirm your own conclusion you are stuck with it, whether it's right or wrong. That's fundamentally why free speech and freedom of information are so important. Not because they are prime "human rights" (freedom from hunger and poverty are more important IMO) but because when they are undermined, knowledge becomes impossible. And knowledge is good.

Pithy. Stolen and disseminated. Thank you, Doctor.

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midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,19:06   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,09:00)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,06:41)
Despite his multi-thousand word posts, KF only has one idea that has any utility, and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

"Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin."

Do you know which page numbers?

http://thedispersalofdarwin.wordpress.com/2011....rrected

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 23 2013,23:11   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,17:06)
Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,09:00)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,06:41)
Despite his multi-thousand word posts, KF only has one idea that has any utility, and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

"Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin."

Do you know which page numbers?

http://thedispersalofdarwin.wordpress.com/2011.......rrected

Thanks for that link, but I don't see anything on that page about islands of function. Is it on a different page?

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,00:55   

Febble

Getting a "Error establishing a database connection" error on  any page load inside the site (loads the home page OK). I seem to be authenticated correctly and have posting rights.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,01:57   

I'm having trouble too. Everything is very slow and some pages load eventually but I am also getting "database error" pages (two versions - the one that displays if the site is being updated and a new one that seems to be generated by wordpress software) to the extent that I'm finding it impossible to post a comment. I am sure there are enough of us who would chip in to pay the cost of renting a better server.

ETA

Just tried posting a comment and lost the whole thing. Maybe I'll try on a friend's connection if I get chance later. They are nearer civilization and have cable.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,03:15   

A couple of hours or so ago TSZ was working for me but I just went there and I can't get past the main page to read any comments.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,03:58   

Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,23:11)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,17:06)
Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,09:00)
 
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,06:41)
Despite his multi-thousand word posts, KF only has one idea that has any utility, and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

"Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin."

Do you know which page numbers?

http://thedispersalofdarwin.wordpress.com/2011.......rrected

Thanks for that link, but I don't see anything on that page about islands of function. Is it on a different page?

Isolated islands is a metaphor for the assertion that a function can't be reached in small steps.

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,04:02   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 24 2013,01:58)
Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,23:11)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,17:06)
 
Quote (The whole truth @ May 23 2013,09:00)
Quote (midwifetoad @ May 23 2013,06:41)
Despite his multi-thousand word posts, KF only has one idea that has any utility, and that is his isolated islands of function. It's not an argument invented by the ID movement; Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin.

He does seem to be fascinated by gay sex, and he spends an inordinate amount of time dwelling lovingly on the details.

"Darwin expressed it in its most cogent form in Origin."

Do you know which page numbers?

http://thedispersalofdarwin.wordpress.com/2011.......rrected

Thanks for that link, but I don't see anything on that page about islands of function. Is it on a different page?

Isolated islands is a metaphor for the assertion that a function can't be reached in small steps.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
timothya



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,04:30   

Febble

I think you might have a database access or capacity problem (too many people trying to suck stuff out from the host system at once). The price you pay for running a popular site.

Of course I am happy to subcontract your site traffic at a small but perfectly formed price if I am allowed to co-opt TSZ's clientele into my International Research Project To Locate the Worst Joke In The World.

  
The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,05:42   

I just went to TSZ again and am still unable to get to any comments. I did notice that the comment count for the gordo thread has changed from 98 to 100 since I last looked.

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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

   
JonF



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,07:22   

And now it's "Account suspended". Probably for excessive bandwidth.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,07:50   

Quote (JonF @ May 24 2013,07:22)

Trying to sort it out now.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,09:09   

Hope to be back online with a new host shortly.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,09:44   

Quote (Febble @ May 24 2013,09:09)
Hope to be back online with a new host shortly.

Still, the "Account Suspended" error.

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"So the center of the earth being hotter than the surface is a "gross
violation of the second law of thermodynamics??" -- Ted Holden

   
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,09:55   

Quote (Arctodus23 @ May 24 2013,09:44)
Quote (Febble @ May 24 2013,09:09)
Hope to be back online with a new host shortly.

Still, the "Account Suspended" error.

If the host is  hanging it could be a couple of days.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,10:10   

Quote (midwifetoad @ May 24 2013,09:55)
Quote (Arctodus23 @ May 24 2013,09:44)
Quote (Febble @ May 24 2013,09:09)
Hope to be back online with a new host shortly.

Still, the "Account Suspended" error.

If the host is hanging it could be a couple of days.

I hope not.  Last time something similar happened, they unsuspended it quite quickly, and when they do I will do the transfer.  The new host said it would only take a few hours.

  
eigenstate



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,10:56   

Quote (Febble @ May 23 2013,06:18)
I think KF is a classic example of what happens when you become so convinced that there is a conspiracy against your own views that you cut yourself off from any possibility of being persuaded by a counter-view.

Once you consider that all counter-views are, a priori, not to be trusted, then you have painted yourself into a corner.

It's not unique to religious people, or to the right. I saw it happen on the left over the idea that Kerry had really won more votes than Bush, but that those votes had been stolen electronically. Anybody proposing a counter-view was a priori considered a shill for Bush, and any counter-fact a fabrication.

Once you distrust all sources that tend to infirm your own conclusion you are stuck with it, whether it's right or wrong. That's fundamentally why free speech and freedom of information are so important. Not because they are prime "human rights" (freedom from hunger and poverty are more important IMO) but because when they are undermined, knowledge becomes impossible. And knowledge is good.

[/soapbox]

I think the problem is more severe than you've cast it here; not only are KF's views a prophylactic against being *persuaded* by alternative/opposing views, they confound attempts to even engage and understand them, persuasion notwithstanding. As a member of an extended family "clan" with a good number of fundamentalist Christians in it, I get to see the not-persuaded-no-matter-what-you-say thing up close and personally, regularly. In many of those cases, though, these relatives are quite able to understand and engage on the subject.

KF is not able to actually engage on the merits. It's a "farther gone" case than just putting oneself beyond liability to persuasion or at risk of doubting one's worldview, etc.

Sorry your site's down, I really enjoy reading TSZ, hope to find time to participate some this summer. As a web geek, I feel like I should be volunteering to help. I know there's many others here with mad skillz if you need, but if I can help you with the humdrum stuff of blog hosting/admin/maintenance, I'd be happy to help out.

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,11:37   

The transfer may take a couple of hours, but it could take a couple of days for the new IP address to propagate to all the DNS zervers.

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Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,12:06   

oh lord, you are right.

Well, right now, webhostingpad have stopped responding to emails.  I will be glad to move.

  
Febble



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(Permalink) Posted: May 24 2013,12:08   

Quote (eigenstate @ May 24 2013,10:56)
Sorry your site's down, I really enjoy reading TSZ, hope to find time to participate some this summer. As a web geek, I feel like I should be volunteering to help. I know there's many others here with mad skillz if you need, but if I can help you with the humdrum stuff of blog hosting/admin/maintenance, I'd be happy to help out.

Thanks!  I may well call on you for that.  Right now, I can't get at the site at all, back end or front.

grrrr.

  
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