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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2013,13:32   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Nov. 27 2012,17:19)
This is good. Casey Luskin friend's daughter has asked whether intelligent design is science or not. Casey's response: "It is, it is, it is! Look, here is a diagram:"

(Image from EN&V)
So all you scientists, you can go home now.

Looks like Gary Gaulin science to me.

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OgreMkV



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2013,13:41   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Jan. 24 2013,13:32)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Nov. 27 2012,17:19)
This is good. Casey Luskin friend's daughter has asked whether intelligent design is science or not. Casey's response: "It is, it is, it is! Look, here is a diagram:"

(Image from EN&V)
So all you scientists, you can go home now.

Looks like Gary Gaulin science to me.

Nah, that's actually pretty well articulated.  It actually has labels and stuff.  

It's stupid and there's no evidence, so I can understand how the confusion came about.

Besides, it's not 50 pages long.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Jan. 24 2013,13:41   

But there's no label or scale or legend on the axes of that graph!!!!

Oh.

Never mind.

  
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 08 2013,00:16   

Now, this is rich:  
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I recently published two articles
(emphasis mine)
Jonathan M., only in your fantasy posts at Evolution News & Views are equivalent to what the real world calls articles. Articles require more than summarizing some research done by real scientists. They should contain original results and some original ideas and conclusions. And these should be the author's results, ideas and conclusions. You can not even claim that the following is a conclusion from the research you've summerized:  
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The systems responsible for DNA replication are well beyond the explanatory efficacy of unguided processes involving chance and necessity. Indeed, machinery of the complexity and sophistication of that described above is, in all of our experience, habitually associated with intelligent agency.
This is not new nor is it original and it surely is not a conclusion that can be drawn from the research you describe. It's just a document of stupidity that we've seen from your fellow IDiots 1000 times before.

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Glen Davidson



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 23 2013,02:58   

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Why Does the History of Life Give the Appearance of Evolution?
Jonathan Wells


http://tinyurl.com/ar85rew....ar85rew

Yes, why?  You'll be surprised (ha) to note that the answer is pathetic:

 
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The answer is found in various religious traditions, especially Christianity. "Far from denying life's progression, tradition provides a reason for it," wrote Huston Smith in 1976. "Earth mirrors heaven. But mirrors, as we have noted, invert. The consequence here is that that which is first in the ontological order appears last in the temporal order." Smith explained: "In the celestial realm the species are never absent; their essential forms or archetypes reside there from an endless beginning. As earth ripens to receive them, each in its turn drops to the terrestrial plane." But "first a viable habitat must be devised, hence the inorganic universe is matured to a point where life can be sustained. And when living beings do arrive, they do so in a vaguely ascending order that passes from relatively undifferentiated organisms... to ones that are more complex." Thus "man, who is first in the order of worth on the terrestrial plane, will be last in the order of his appearance."2


Yes, because no way could God do anything differently from evolution--performing miracles, creating everything in a day to specifications.  Basically it's omphalos-type reasoning, don't expect God's causes or effects to actually transcend what is, fit your "God" to the facts and proclaim triumph for your biases.

Still, I love the fact that these jerks actually finally admitted how at least the history of life looks evolved.  You know, because clearly if it looks designed it must be designed, ergo...  It would have been better, though, had he asked why everything about wild-type life looks evolved, not simply at one level--like life "looks designed" when you have enough prejudices to think so and close your mind to the many undesigned-like features of life--but looks evolved at every level and throughout all of life.  Dobzhansky comes to mind.

Baby steps, though.  Trouble is, baby thought is all that Wells has as an "answer," and one suspects that will suffice for him and the other "best and brightest" IDiots.

Glen Davidson

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 25 2013,22:02   

[URL=Now this is rich]Now this is rich[/URL]  
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The news media are reporting on a bill in the Missouri State Legislature that would require "equal treatment for evolution and intelligent design."

As we've mentioned many times before here on ENV, Discovery Institute opposes legislation like this, as it contradicts our longstanding policy to oppose pushing intelligent design in public schools.
(emphasis mine)

Hey Casey, this was exactly your policy until Judge Jones ruled it illegal. And it hasn't changed. You only have to state the following  
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Our priority with ID is to see it develop as a scientific theory and not to politicize it by pushing the theory into public schools. Our Science Education Policy Page explains why we oppose mandating ID in public schools:  
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As a matter of public policy, Discovery Institute opposes any effort to require the teaching of intelligent design by school districts or state boards of education. Attempts to mandate teaching about intelligent design only politicize the theory and will hinder fair and open discussion of the merits of the theory among scholars and within the scientific community. Furthermore, most teachers at the present time do not know enough about intelligent design to teach about it accurately and objectively.

because as a  matter of fact you are still trying to push ID into schools. In contrast to the guys who suggested the Missouri bill Discovery Institute is just dishonest. But OK, it wouldn't be the DI if it were.
BTW, the Sensous Curmudgeon informs us that the Arizona and the Oklahoma creationism bills the DI initiated have died.

Edited by sparc on Feb. 25 2013,22:04

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2013,01:36   

He is back. Willam Dembski made one of his now rare public appearances at EN&V to defend Meyer's new book or rather his "Law of Conservation of Information".

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

- William Dembski -

   
DiEb



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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2013,02:32   

Again, William Dembski refers to his two "seminal papers"
  • "The Search for a Search: Measuring the Information Cost of Higher-Level Search," Journal of Advanced Computational Intelligence and Intelligent Informatics 14(5) (2010): 475-486
  • "Conservation of Information in Search: Measuring the Cost of Success," IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics A, Systems & Humans, 5(5) (September 2009): 1051-1061
And while he concedes  that J. Shallit had found an arithmetic error [...]  in my book No Free Lunch, he doesn't mention the flaws in the paper "The Search for a Search": There he introduces a  Horizontal No Free Lunch theorem, which is quite problematic - to say the least.

Or isn't it? For  a while, when you downloaded the paper from http://evoinfo.org/publica....ca...., it came with an erratum (I know this, because they thanked me for my attention to our work and pointing out the problem). You don't have to take my word for this - here a picture via the  wayback machine.

When I checked today, this erratum has disappeared from the text again  (quite silently  - at least I wasn't informed). So, what has happened? How often has the same error to be pointed out?

Edited by DiEb on April 05 2013,08:49

   
sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: April 05 2013,08:50   

Did you note that Dembski insinuates some wrong doing by Wes and Jeff Shallit?    
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The fact is that conservation of information has since been reconceptualized and significantly expanded in its scope and power through my subsequent joint work with Baylor engineer Robert Marks. Conservation of information, in the form that Felsenstein is still dealing with, is taken from my 2002 book No Free Lunch. In 2005, Marks and I began a research program for developing the concept of conservation of information, and we have since published a number of peer-reviewed papers in the technical literature on this topic (note that Felsenstein published his critique of my work with the National Center for Science Education, essentially in a newsletter format, and that Shallit's 2003 article finally appeared in 2011 with the philosophy of science journal Synthese, essentially unchanged in all those intervening years).
(emphasis mine)

Dembski is just disgusting. He is telling a lie and he surely knows the truth because Casey Luskin was caught red handed with exactly the same lie back in January 2011:    
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We [W. Elseberry and J. Shallit] submitted our essay to Synthese on 2009/03/23. It was released online by 2009/04/20. It appears in print in the January 2011 issue. In general, authors can only respond to papers that are published before the date of publication.


(ETA EN&V link)

Edited by sparc on April 05 2013,23:14

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(Permalink) Posted: April 16 2013,23:01   

Wow, Amazing

The Discotutes cannot fill their wonderful, ground wasting, FREE graduate summer "seminars."

That's right folk- They can't fucking give them away!

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013....21.html

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The whole truth



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(Permalink) Posted: April 16 2013,23:29   

Quote (Dr.GH @ April 16 2013,21:01)
Wow, Amazing

The Discotutes cannot fill their wonderful, ground wasting, FREE graduate summer "seminars."

That's right folk- They can't fucking give them away!

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013.......21.html

And they're even "including travel, food and lodging."

If the DI wants a big turnout, they need to offer something more educational and entertaining than some boring sermons about an imaginary designer-creator-god, such as Magenta of Montserrat demonstrating her 'sucking a golf ball through a garden hose' skills. They might even get people to pay to see that!

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,10:04   

Quote (The whole truth @ April 16 2013,22:29)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 16 2013,21:01)
Wow, Amazing

The Discotutes cannot fill their wonderful, ground wasting, FREE graduate summer "seminars."

That's right folk- They can't fucking give them away!

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013.......21.html

And they're even "including travel, food and lodging."

If the DI wants a big turnout, they need to offer something more educational and entertaining than some boring sermons about an imaginary designer-creator-god, such as Magenta of Montserrat demonstrating her 'sucking a golf ball through a garden hose' skills. They might even get people to pay to see that!

Maybe if they were to hold it at that park in Kentucky! :p

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,11:37   

Quote (Henry J @ April 17 2013,08:04)
Quote (The whole truth @ April 16 2013,22:29)
Quote (Dr.GH @ April 16 2013,21:01)
Wow, Amazing

The Discotutes cannot fill their wonderful, ground wasting, FREE graduate summer "seminars."

That's right folk- They can't fucking give them away!

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013.......21.html

And they're even "including travel, food and lodging."

If the DI wants a big turnout, they need to offer something more educational and entertaining than some boring sermons about an imaginary designer-creator-god, such as Magenta of Montserrat demonstrating her 'sucking a golf ball through a garden hose' skills. They might even get people to pay to see that!

Maybe if they were to hold it at that park in Kentucky! :p

?? "The DI Derby"??

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,11:44   

Anyone have some free time coming up?

Think they would kick us out or have JoeG beat us up?

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,11:46   

Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2013,09:44)
Anyone have some free time coming up?

Think they would kick us out or have JoeG beat us up?

Too bad Deadman and Wolfhound are maintaining radio silence, they're in the wetcoast rainforest, aren't they?

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,11:54   

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C.S. Lewis Fellows Program




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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,13:50   

Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2013,09:44)
Anyone have some free time coming up?

Think they would kick us out or have JoeG beat us up?

I live about 3 hours by car from Seattle (I lived there for 6 years when I was a kid) and would dearly love to sit through 9 days of ID sermons but I don't meet their admission requirements:

"Admission Requirements: You must be currently enrolled in a college or university as a junior, senior, or graduate student. Required application materials include (1) a resume/cv, (2) a copy of your academic transcript, (3) a short statement of your interest in intelligent design and its perceived relationship to your career plans and field of study, and (4) either a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with the seminar director."

Of course I eagerly want to incorporate ID into my field of study but I'm not a student and the spider that lives behind my toilet (that I've named Professor Weirdo) is being stubborn and won't agree to writing a letter of recommendation, or a telephone interview. Dang, I haz a sad.  :(

I'm even more devastated that I will miss out on the rumored appearance of ID A-lister and toaster technician joey g, who would undoubtedly steal the show by dazzling the attendees with his brilliant, precise measurements of CSI in a wide variety of living and non-living things, including angel food caeks that he cooks up in his superbly outfitted basement lab and caek bakery.

Of course it would also be a huge thrill to watch joey use the world class fighting skills he learned as a war hero in Iraq to beat up and evict any evo trouble makers who selfishly disrupt the proceedings by asking relevant, scientific questions.

And last but far from least, if I were allowed to attend and joey does make an appearance, I or someone else might be able to get joey to share some deep thoughts about his loving, patient, open-minded, muslim/christian philosophy and how to properly demonstrate those allah-yhwh given thoughts with kind and considerate internet forum etiquette.

I'm crushed, crushed I tell you, that I won't be allowed to attend the seminars.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,13:57   

Quote (The whole truth @ April 17 2013,11:50)
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2013,09:44)
Anyone have some free time coming up?

Think they would kick us out or have JoeG beat us up?

I live about 3 hours by car from Seattle (I lived there for 6 years when I was a kid) and would dearly love to sit through 9 days of ID sermons but I don't meet their admission requirements:

"Admission Requirements: You must be currently enrolled in a college or university as a junior, senior, or graduate student. Required application materials include (1) a resume/cv, (2) a copy of your academic transcript, (3) a short statement of your interest in intelligent design and its perceived relationship to your career plans and field of study, and (4) either a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with the seminar director."

Of course I eagerly want to incorporate ID into my field of study but I'm not a student and the spider that lives behind my toilet (that I've named Professor Weirdo) is being stubborn and won't agree to writing a letter of recommendation, or a telephone interview. Dang, I haz a sad.  :(

I'm even more devastated that I will miss out on the rumored appearance of ID A-lister and toaster technician joey g, who would undoubtedly steal the show by dazzling the attendees with his brilliant, precise measurements of CSI in a wide variety of living and non-living things, including angel food caeks that he cooks up in his superbly outfitted basement lab and caek bakery.

Of course it would also be a huge thrill to watch joey use the world class fighting skills he learned as a war hero in Iraq to beat up and evict any evo trouble makers who selfishly disrupt the proceedings by asking relevant, scientific questions.

And last but far from least, if I were allowed to attend and joey does make an appearance, I or someone else might be able to get joey to share some deep thoughts about his loving, patient, open-minded, muslim/christian philosophy and how to properly demonstrate those allah-yhwh given thoughts with kind and considerate internet forum etiquette.

I'm crushed, crushed I tell you, that I won't be allowed to attend the seminars.

I live in Seattle, and sometimes catch the bus across the street from Tard Central.  I'd go, but I don't meet the requirements (Why didn't they just say "Students at backwoods bible school only"?  Would have saved a lot of trouble, and their target audience might have been able to read that without moving their lips).  Anyway, I can't really spare the time.  Or the neurons.

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There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,14:22   

Quote (JohnW @ April 17 2013,11:57)
Quote (The whole truth @ April 17 2013,11:50)
 
Quote (OgreMkV @ April 17 2013,09:44)
Anyone have some free time coming up?

Think they would kick us out or have JoeG beat us up?

I live about 3 hours by car from Seattle (I lived there for 6 years when I was a kid) and would dearly love to sit through 9 days of ID sermons but I don't meet their admission requirements:

"Admission Requirements: You must be currently enrolled in a college or university as a junior, senior, or graduate student. Required application materials include (1) a resume/cv, (2) a copy of your academic transcript, (3) a short statement of your interest in intelligent design and its perceived relationship to your career plans and field of study, and (4) either a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with the seminar director."

Of course I eagerly want to incorporate ID into my field of study but I'm not a student and the spider that lives behind my toilet (that I've named Professor Weirdo) is being stubborn and won't agree to writing a letter of recommendation, or a telephone interview. Dang, I haz a sad.  :(

I'm even more devastated that I will miss out on the rumored appearance of ID A-lister and toaster technician joey g, who would undoubtedly steal the show by dazzling the attendees with his brilliant, precise measurements of CSI in a wide variety of living and non-living things, including angel food caeks that he cooks up in his superbly outfitted basement lab and caek bakery.

Of course it would also be a huge thrill to watch joey use the world class fighting skills he learned as a war hero in Iraq to beat up and evict any evo trouble makers who selfishly disrupt the proceedings by asking relevant, scientific questions.

And last but far from least, if I were allowed to attend and joey does make an appearance, I or someone else might be able to get joey to share some deep thoughts about his loving, patient, open-minded, muslim/christian philosophy and how to properly demonstrate those allah-yhwh given thoughts with kind and considerate internet forum etiquette.

I'm crushed, crushed I tell you, that I won't be allowed to attend the seminars.

I live in Seattle, and sometimes catch the bus across the street from Tard Central.  I'd go, but I don't meet the requirements (Why didn't they just say "Students at backwoods bible school only"?  Would have saved a lot of trouble, and their target audience might have been able to read that without moving their lips).  Anyway, I can't really spare the time.  Or the neurons.

But think of all the syuntifik ejeekashun you'll miss out on!11!!111

:)

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,15:38   

Quote (JohnW @ April 17 2013,11:57)
"Admission Requirements: You must be currently enrolled in a college or university as a junior, senior, or graduate student. Required application materials include (1) a resume/cv, (2) a copy of your academic transcript, (3) a short statement of your interest in intelligent design and its perceived relationship to your career plans and field of study, and (4) either a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with the seminar director."

So, another circle jerk, then.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,15:55   

Quote (fnxtr @ April 17 2013,13:38)
Quote (JohnW @ April 17 2013,11:57)
"Admission Requirements: You must be currently enrolled in a college or university as a junior, senior, or graduate student. Required application materials include (1) a resume/cv, (2) a copy of your academic transcript, (3) a short statement of your interest in intelligent design and its perceived relationship to your career plans and field of study, and (4) either a letter of recommendation from a professor who knows your work and is friendly toward ID, or a phone interview with the seminar director."

So, another circle jerk, then.

I'd love to see those academic transcripts.  Comedy gold.

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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,22:46   

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(Henry J @ April 17 2013,08:04)
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Maybe if they were to hold it at that park in Kentucky! :p

?? "The DI Derby"??

The Ark Park.
http://pandasthumb.org/archive....rk.html
http://pandasthumb.org/archive....on.html

Henry

  
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(Permalink) Posted: April 17 2013,22:56   

A comment from Zack Kopplin:

ot yet, Zack, not yet. But I say we get things going by brainstorming. Here goes.

Meme Idea 1

TSA: Sir, mid-sized green items go in a small taupe container.
Traveler: Wait. What?

TSA: Sir, you're not a scientist. Hold your questions please.

TSA: Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step into the corner.

Traveler: Why?

TSA: Still not a scientist. Full body cavity.

Meme Idea 2
Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Driver: I don't see a lab coat. You're not a scientist.

Officer: Got me there. Move along.

Meme Idea 3
Professor: And so we therefore know that Homo sapiens share a common ancestor with coral.

Student: Is mere DNA sequence similarity in certain coding regions of one shared gene enough to establish this conclusion as unchallengeable, or could one reasonably withhold assent for now?

Professor: We've been over this. You're not a scientist. I ask the questions. You write down what I say. And before you ask, yes, this will be on the exam.

Oh, wait. That last one is real.
Postscript: Zack just appeared on NPR's Talk of the Nation. Listen here. This meme thing might happen.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2013,05:04   

Casey Luskin is deeply disappointed: What Science Education "Journalism" Looks Like at Nature

He was interviewed by the "highly respected" journal Nature, but the journalist Laureen Morello saw through his talking points and safely ignored all of them in her article "Evolution makes the grade". It's not fair!

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2013,11:15   

Quote (DiEb @ July 05 2013,05:04)
Casey Luskin is deeply disappointed: What Science Education "Journalism" Looks Like at Nature

He was interviewed by the "highly respected" journal Nature, but the journalist Laureen Morello saw through his talking points and safely ignored all of them in her article "Evolution makes the grade". It's not fair!

Shame on you Lauren Morello!

You made Baby Gerbil cry!

(You have to wonder why Gerb brought this up in the first place.  Nobody would have known otherwise.  Oh, yeah, persecution complex.  I forgotted 'bouts that.)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2013,14:11   

Quote (Doc Bill @ July 05 2013,11:15)
Quote (DiEb @ July 05 2013,05:04)
Casey Luskin is deeply disappointed: What Science Education "Journalism" Looks Like at Nature

He was interviewed by the "highly respected" journal Nature, but the journalist Laureen Morello saw through his talking points and safely ignored all of them in her article "Evolution makes the grade". It's not fair!

Shame on you Lauren Morello!

You made Baby Gerbil cry!

(You have to wonder why Gerb brought this up in the first place.  Nobody would have known otherwise.  Oh, yeah, persecution complex.  I forgotted 'bouts that.)

Its not like you ever made a film called Crossroads on the "intersection of science and religion" expelled!, is it?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2013,18:38   

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 05 2013,15:11)
Quote (Doc Bill @ July 05 2013,11:15)
Quote (DiEb @ July 05 2013,05:04)
Casey Luskin is deeply disappointed: What Science Education "Journalism" Looks Like at Nature

He was interviewed by the "highly respected" journal Nature, but the journalist Laureen Morello saw through his talking points and safely ignored all of them in her article "Evolution makes the grade". It's not fair!

Shame on you Lauren Morello!

You made Baby Gerbil cry!

(You have to wonder why Gerb brought this up in the first place.  Nobody would have known otherwise.  Oh, yeah, persecution complex.  I forgotted 'bouts that.)

Its not like you ever made a film called Crossroads on the "intersection of science and religion" expelled!, is it?

i wonder how many people outside of the CBEB congregation even read this miserable little pustule's rants, anymore?

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(Permalink) Posted: July 05 2013,21:55   

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Casey Luskin is deeply disappointed: What Science Education "Journalism" Looks Like at Nature

He was interviewed by the "highly respected" journal Nature, but the journalist Laureen Morello saw through his talking points and safely ignored all of them in her article "Evolution makes the grade". It's not fair!

Shame on you Lauren Morello!

You made Baby Gerbil cry!

(You have to wonder why Gerb brought this up in the first place.  Nobody would have known otherwise.  Oh, yeah, persecution complex.  I forgotted 'bouts that.)

Its not like you ever made a film called Crossroads on the "intersection of science and religion" expelled!, is it?

i wonder how many people outside of the CBEB congregation even read this miserable little pustule's rants, anymore?

He must have some family members that do.

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"I suspect that the English grammar books where you live are outdated" --G. Gaulin

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2013,17:01   

I wrote this up here.

On the 17th Klinghoffer , crying about Matzke's review, asks "why doesn't a paleonoltogist review Darwin's Doubt?

Well Dr. Donald Prothero did.

The 7th comment is by a Rex Tugwell who demands that Prothero deal with epigentics and Embryological Development.

Bait and switch is alive and well.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2013,21:00   

That's Rex "My Dick I Will" Tugwell.



(low hanging fruit)

  
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