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MichaelJ



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,02:25   

Quote (Benny H @ Mar. 06 2010,12:13)
UD is flatlining. The last post there to have more than 100 comments was two weeks ago.

The other measure of UD falling off the map is that we seem to have been stuck on page 159 for ages. What happened to the days when I would log on in the morning and find 2-3 new pages of this thread.

  
Marion Delgado



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,04:10   

Michael it's time to consolidate telic thoughts with uncommon descent again.

Denyse O'Leary recently said her toe was smarter than she was, though. So not sure what commentary and discussion can add to that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,08:59   

For my 500th post I was going to do a full fisking of one of Corny Hunter's bits of nonsense, or maybe do some research into the reasons why the typical UDiot seems incapable of abstract thought, but I got distracted by this from Joey G's object of desire:
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Now, what I’d be interested to know is, the ETs never phone, they never write. Why do we assume they exist?

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,16:33   

Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,23:59)
For my 500th post I was going to do a full fisking of one of Corny Hunter's bits of nonsense, or maybe do some research into the reasons why the typical UDiot seems incapable of abstract thought, but I got distracted by this from Joey G's object of desire:
 
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Now, what I’d be interested to know is, the ETs never phone, they never write. Why do we assume they exist?

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.

... because there is OBJECTIVE MORALITY AND every effect must have a cause AND it is impossible to be able to imagine something that doesn't exist AND it says so in the Bible which must be true because the Bible is the word of God

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,17:15   

Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,06:59)
For my 500th post I was going to do a full fisking of one of Corny Hunter's bits of nonsense, or maybe do some research into the reasons why the typical UDiot seems incapable of abstract thought, but I got distracted by this from Joey G's object of desire:
             
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Now, what I’d be interested to know is, the ETs never phone, they never write. Why do we assume they exist?

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.

Not just that but, we* don't assume ETs exist. At best we say "gee, there's a few hundred billion stars in our galaxy, a few hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe, and it's all made out of pretty much the same stuff, so there's probably other life out there"

That isn't the end of Denyse' ignorance either... "where are they" is a longstanding puzzle which has been the subject of significant scholarly discussion.

* scientists, SETI researchers, vaguely educated folks, and pretty much everyone else aside from UFO nuts.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,21:12   

Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,08:59)

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.


You're simply mistaken here, Maya. God did write a book. It's called the Bible. And obviously Denyse hears God's voice inside her head. God phones her all the time, I bet. Therefore the analogy stands.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,21:38   

Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Mar. 06 2010,21:12)
Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,08:59)

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.


You're simply mistaken here, Maya. God did write a book. It's called the Bible. And obviously Denyse hears God's voice inside her head. God phones her all the time, I bet. Therefore the analogy stands.

So when she said her toes were talking, she really means her god?  He's inside her toes?  Ewwwww

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,22:01   

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Quote (Advocatus Diaboli @ Mar. 06 2010,21:12)
Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,08:59)

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.


You're simply mistaken here, Maya. God did write a book. It's called the Bible. And obviously Denyse hears God's voice inside her head. God phones her all the time, I bet. Therefore the analogy stands.

So when she said her toes were talking, she really means her god?  He's inside her toes?  Ewwwww

That makes sense actually. Think about it Jesus died and came back from the dead just like Denyse's toenails (more or less)! Denyse's toenails died for your sins!

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,22:38   

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God phones her all the time, I bet.
I don't know about that but I've heard people talking about big white phones to phone Him.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 06 2010,23:01   

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Quote (Benny H @ Mar. 06 2010,12:13)
UD is flatlining. The last post there to have more than 100 comments was two weeks ago.

The other measure of UD falling off the map is that we seem to have been stuck on page 159 for ages. What happened to the days when I would log on in the morning and find 2-3 new pages of this thread.

You youngsters are so impatient.  Uncommon Descent will be back again. There have been numerous predictions of it's demise on these very pages. Heck, I even remember when, post-Dover, Dr2 Dembski actually mothballed Uncommon Descent. So, while UD will go through some doldrums, like it is now, it will come back.  Because, you see, the argument regarding design is resilient.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,09:03   

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So when she said her toes were talking, she really means her god?  He's inside her toes?  Ewwwww

more likely between her toes...

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,10:07   

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Quote (Maya @ Mar. 06 2010,08:59)

Gee, Denyse, are there any other objects of belief to which we could apply that criteria?

I see hypocrites.  They don't know they're hypocrites.


You're simply mistaken here, Maya. God did write a book. It's called the Bible. And obviously Denyse hears God's voice inside her head. God phones her all the time, I bet. Therefore the analogy stands.

So when she said her toes were talking, she really means her god?  He's inside her toes?  Ewwwww

That makes sense actually. Think about it Jesus died and came back from the dead just like Denyse's toenails (more or less)! Denyse's toenails died for your sins!

Maybe we can sell pieces of the True Toenails at UD.  I got me some clippers...

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,10:53   

Quote (rhmc @ Mar. 07 2010,09:03)
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So when she said her toes were talking, she really means her god?  He's inside her toes?  Ewwwww

more likely between her toes...

Knowing Densey's journamalistic skills, she probably confused soul and sole.

ID predicts her next book will be "Metatarsal Mysticism: Sole Food for My Tootsies"

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,10:58   

Upright Biped -
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Upright BiPed

03/07/2010

1:24 am

Note to self:

Education cannot kill rationality. I refuse to believe it. There are too many who are a contradiction to the idea. So, what can? What is the force that binds such educated people to utter stupidity?

Let me know when I find out.


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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,11:32   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Mar. 07 2010,10:58)
Upright Biped -
 
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14

Upright BiPed

03/07/2010

1:24 am

Note to self:

Education cannot kill rationality. I refuse to believe it. There are too many who are a contradiction to the idea. So, what can? What is the force that binds such educated people to utter stupidity?

Let me know when I find out.

Yeah, it's amazing how deluded that is.

All Upright Moron has to do is provide some actual evidence for ID. Then he can claim utter stupidity.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,12:34   

Holy crap... I'd forgotten how greasy they could be. Check out their attempts to imitate the other side on the Rube Goldberg Machine.

 
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Above all, please remember that the marble machine only appears to be designed. There is absolutely no evidence in this video that it was designed. After all, any visual evidence that it was designed is only that: the visual, the apparition, the appearance. . . no way past it. . . no underlying meaning, nothing but a phenomenom whose ultimate being can be explained only by those precursors which survived and explain all that we see, they explain everything. . . oops, that is, er . . . oh, nevermind.


 
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I like your humor Tim. I’ll try my hand at it.

No irreducible complexity here, I mean, obviously the marble could be used as a small little round ball, and the wood could be used as smaller pieces of wood, such as firewood, toothpicks, or trash. Not to mention that you could take any one piece, large enough, of that machine and use it for a whittling stick. So obviously all pieces were used in one of those ways, and the firewood, toothpicks, trash, and whittling sticks got together with the ball and decided to self-assemble themselves into a one “self-assembled” self, by accident, of course, of some whittling sticks being more useful than others, some trash more trashy than others, some firewood more firey than others, and toothpicks more picky than others.

How does trash, toothpicks, firewood and whittling become relevant to a complex marble machine, you ask? Well, I don’t have to explain, because it’s enough to show that the individual pieces served other functions, how those functions have any purchase on the current function is only a question that an ID person would ask, we evolutionists don’t bother ourselves with such inanity. It is enough to show that a mousetrap could be reduced to a tie clip, and the question of efficacy and relevance of catching mice by holding ties in place need not bother us evolutionists. ;)


Nice, Clive. Fancy doing some work on ID, now?

I reckon it must be like the way some oppressed minorities take insults and turn them into self-labels (like 'queer'), except they do it with criticism. 'We don't have a mechanism! We don't have a theory! Get used to it!'

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,14:27   

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Unpleasant Blowhard -
   
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Let me know when I find out.

Another casualty of UD/ID muttering to himself on a park bench.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,15:14   

Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Mar. 07 2010,12:34)
Holy crap... I'd forgotten how greasy they could be. Check out their attempts to imitate the other side on the Rube Goldberg Machine.

   
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Above all, please remember that the marble machine only appears to be designed. There is absolutely no evidence in this video that it was designed. After all, any visual evidence that it was designed is only that: the visual, the apparition, the appearance. . . no way past it. . . no underlying meaning, nothing but a phenomenom whose ultimate being can be explained only by those precursors which survived and explain all that we see, they explain everything. . . oops, that is, er . . . oh, nevermind.


   
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I like your humor Tim. I’ll try my hand at it.

No irreducible complexity here, I mean, obviously the marble could be used as a small little round ball, and the wood could be used as smaller pieces of wood, such as firewood, toothpicks, or trash. Not to mention that you could take any one piece, large enough, of that machine and use it for a whittling stick. So obviously all pieces were used in one of those ways, and the firewood, toothpicks, trash, and whittling sticks got together with the ball and decided to self-assemble themselves into a one “self-assembled” self, by accident, of course, of some whittling sticks being more useful than others, some trash more trashy than others, some firewood more firey than others, and toothpicks more picky than others.

How does trash, toothpicks, firewood and whittling become relevant to a complex marble machine, you ask? Well, I don’t have to explain, because it’s enough to show that the individual pieces served other functions, how those functions have any purchase on the current function is only a question that an ID person would ask, we evolutionists don’t bother ourselves with such inanity. It is enough to show that a mousetrap could be reduced to a tie clip, and the question of efficacy and relevance of catching mice by holding ties in place need not bother us evolutionists. ;)


Nice, Clive. Fancy doing some work on ID, now?

I reckon it must be like the way some oppressed minorities take insults and turn them into self-labels (like 'queer'), except they do it with criticism. 'We don't have a mechanism! We don't have a theory! Get used to it!'

When I saw the title of this post, I was sure it was going to be about OK Go's recent music video, which I helped design/build.  I have seen the horror of watching someone's work get turned into fodder for poorly conceived creationist arguments.  I'm so glad that was about someone else's machine.  (And what a triumph of engineering and woodwork it is!)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,15:25   

What did you do, cogzoid?  Put up the umbrella?

*runs and hides*

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,15:40   

Quote (cogzoid @ Mar. 07 2010,16:14)
Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Mar. 07 2010,12:34)
Holy crap... I'd forgotten how greasy they could be. Check out their attempts to imitate the other side on the Rube Goldberg Machine.

   
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Above all, please remember that the marble machine only appears to be designed. There is absolutely no evidence in this video that it was designed. After all, any visual evidence that it was designed is only that: the visual, the apparition, the appearance. . . no way past it. . . no underlying meaning, nothing but a phenomenom whose ultimate being can be explained only by those precursors which survived and explain all that we see, they explain everything. . . oops, that is, er . . . oh, nevermind.


   
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I like your humor Tim. I’ll try my hand at it.

No irreducible complexity here, I mean, obviously the marble could be used as a small little round ball, and the wood could be used as smaller pieces of wood, such as firewood, toothpicks, or trash. Not to mention that you could take any one piece, large enough, of that machine and use it for a whittling stick. So obviously all pieces were used in one of those ways, and the firewood, toothpicks, trash, and whittling sticks got together with the ball and decided to self-assemble themselves into a one “self-assembled” self, by accident, of course, of some whittling sticks being more useful than others, some trash more trashy than others, some firewood more firey than others, and toothpicks more picky than others.

How does trash, toothpicks, firewood and whittling become relevant to a complex marble machine, you ask? Well, I don’t have to explain, because it’s enough to show that the individual pieces served other functions, how those functions have any purchase on the current function is only a question that an ID person would ask, we evolutionists don’t bother ourselves with such inanity. It is enough to show that a mousetrap could be reduced to a tie clip, and the question of efficacy and relevance of catching mice by holding ties in place need not bother us evolutionists. ;)


Nice, Clive. Fancy doing some work on ID, now?

I reckon it must be like the way some oppressed minorities take insults and turn them into self-labels (like 'queer'), except they do it with criticism. 'We don't have a mechanism! We don't have a theory! Get used to it!'

When I saw the title of this post, I was sure it was going to be about OK Go's recent music video, which I helped design/build.  I have seen the horror of watching someone's work get turned into fodder for poorly conceived creationist arguments.  I'm so glad that was about someone else's machine.  (And what a triumph of engineering and woodwork it is!)

Is that really done in one take (presumably after many attempts)?

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,16:54   

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Because, you see, the argument regarding design is resilient.

Yeah, it was probably designed that way. ;)

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,16:59   

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Because, you see, the argument regarding design is resilient.

Yeah, it was probably designed that way. ;)

Henry

Ironically, it just sort of built up over time.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,17:12   

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Ironically, it just sort of built up over time.

But wouldn't that violate the SLoT?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,17:21   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Mar. 07 2010,15:40)
Quote (cogzoid @ Mar. 07 2010,16:14)
 
Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Mar. 07 2010,12:34)
Holy crap... I'd forgotten how greasy they could be. Check out their attempts to imitate the other side on the Rube Goldberg Machine.

     
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Above all, please remember that the marble machine only appears to be designed. There is absolutely no evidence in this video that it was designed. After all, any visual evidence that it was designed is only that: the visual, the apparition, the appearance. . . no way past it. . . no underlying meaning, nothing but a phenomenom whose ultimate being can be explained only by those precursors which survived and explain all that we see, they explain everything. . . oops, that is, er . . . oh, nevermind.


     
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I like your humor Tim. I’ll try my hand at it.

No irreducible complexity here, I mean, obviously the marble could be used as a small little round ball, and the wood could be used as smaller pieces of wood, such as firewood, toothpicks, or trash. Not to mention that you could take any one piece, large enough, of that machine and use it for a whittling stick. So obviously all pieces were used in one of those ways, and the firewood, toothpicks, trash, and whittling sticks got together with the ball and decided to self-assemble themselves into a one “self-assembled” self, by accident, of course, of some whittling sticks being more useful than others, some trash more trashy than others, some firewood more firey than others, and toothpicks more picky than others.

How does trash, toothpicks, firewood and whittling become relevant to a complex marble machine, you ask? Well, I don’t have to explain, because it’s enough to show that the individual pieces served other functions, how those functions have any purchase on the current function is only a question that an ID person would ask, we evolutionists don’t bother ourselves with such inanity. It is enough to show that a mousetrap could be reduced to a tie clip, and the question of efficacy and relevance of catching mice by holding ties in place need not bother us evolutionists. ;)


Nice, Clive. Fancy doing some work on ID, now?

I reckon it must be like the way some oppressed minorities take insults and turn them into self-labels (like 'queer'), except they do it with criticism. 'We don't have a mechanism! We don't have a theory! Get used to it!'

When I saw the title of this post, I was sure it was going to be about OK Go's recent music video, which I helped design/build.  I have seen the horror of watching someone's work get turned into fodder for poorly conceived creationist arguments.  I'm so glad that was about someone else's machine.  (And what a triumph of engineering and woodwork it is!)

Is that really done in one take (presumably after many attempts)?

The final version wasn't one take, but it could've been.  There were some human errors that had to be spliced out.  It was a lot of work to film, and we plumb ran out of time.  We got an A shot of the upstairs and an A shot of the downstairs.  We tried until 3am to get an A+ shot of both, but the band had to catch a flight at 6am.  I think one more day would've resulted in a seamless video.  As it stands, it's not so bad.  :)

As for what I did...  I was responsible for the stuff from the TV to the paint cannons.  That doesn't mean that I built it, or designed everything, but it was my job to manage the awesome team we had, and keep everyone on the same page.  My hands got dirty too, but I mostly delegated.  I wish I could've been more of a builder, but someone had to step up and manage.  It was a heck of a lot of work, but I think the end result was worth it.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,17:23   

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Because, you see, the argument regarding design is resilient.

'The argument regarding design is extra resilient' provides a better acronym.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,17:49   

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'The argument regarding design is extra resilient' provides a better acronym.

Cause it's later than we think? Or something?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 07 2010,18:06   

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Cause it's later than we think? Or something?

Erm - I'll just get me coat.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,10:23   

Lock makes the case for outpatient mental health services:
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I walked into a service station to buy a beer. The young woman behind the counter was unusually cheerful, so I asked her how things were going.

She said, “life is great, work is great, and school is great”. -She attends a local college.

“What classes are you taking?”, I asked.

She rambled off a list of usual courses, but then ended by emphasizing, “…and Human Sexuality!”

“No philosophy?” I asked.

“Oh no. I don’t know anything about that”, she said.

So I said to her, “let me ask you a question. Is the truth absolute or relative?”

Without missing a beat (but somewhat unconvicingly) she said, “relative!”

“So what are they teaching you about human sexuality? The truth?”

After a long pause she said, “the facts”.

“The facts?… The fact is Adolf Hitler murdered about 6 million Jews. It is a fact that some people love their neighbors, and others eat them. What does that have to do with the truth concerning how we should live, and the reality that we do not?”

She said nothing.

No wonder he's drinking beer by himself.

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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,10:42   

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Lock makes the case for outpatient mental health services:
 
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I walked into a service station to buy a beer. The young woman behind the counter was unusually cheerful, so I asked her how things were going.

She said, “life is great, work is great, and school is great”. -She attends a local college.

“What classes are you taking?”, I asked.

She rambled off a list of usual courses, but then ended by emphasizing, “…and Human Sexuality!”

“No philosophy?” I asked.

“Oh no. I don’t know anything about that”, she said.

So I said to her, “let me ask you a question. Is the truth absolute or relative?”

Without missing a beat (but somewhat unconvicingly) she said, “relative!”

“So what are they teaching you about human sexuality? The truth?”

After a long pause she said, “the facts”.

“The facts?… The fact is Adolf Hitler murdered about 6 million Jews. It is a fact that some people love their neighbors, and others eat them. What does that have to do with the truth concerning how we should live, and the reality that we do not?”

She said nothing.

No wonder he's drinking beer by himself.

... You don't mention the "s" word in the presence of the devout. It's nasty, and not How We Should Live. Just ask PZ.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Mar. 08 2010,10:49   

Quote (keiths @ Mar. 08 2010,15:23)
Lock makes the case for outpatient mental health services:
 
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I walked into a service station to buy a beer. The young woman behind the counter was unusually cheerful, so I asked her how things were going.

She said, “life is great, work is great, and school is great”. -She attends a local college.

“What classes are you taking?”, I asked.

She rambled off a list of usual courses, but then ended by emphasizing, “…and Human Sexuality!”

“No philosophy?” I asked.

“Oh no. I don’t know anything about that”, she said.

So I said to her, “let me ask you a question. Is the truth absolute or relative?”

Without missing a beat (but somewhat unconvicingly) she said, “relative!”

“So what are they teaching you about human sexuality? The truth?”

After a long pause she said, “the facts”.

“The facts?… The fact is Adolf Hitler murdered about 6 million Jews. It is a fact that some people love their neighbors, and others eat them. What does that have to do with the truth concerning how we should live, and the reality that we do not?”

She said nothing.

No wonder he's drinking beer by himself.

Your comment would also work with a comma after the second word.

;-)

Louis

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