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JohnW



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2012,17:48   

Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 14 2012,15:05)
Vox Day has no love for feminists, but I can't imagine him ever making comments like those PZ made in the clip.  

I know you like to look on your side in the best possible light, F, but for fuck's sake.  He thinks you shouldn't be allowed to vote, and "has no love for feminists" is the best you can do?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2012,18:14   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2012,17:15)
I have only a vague outline of what happened there, but--and if I'm wrong, let me know--my impression was that Dawkins totally failed to understand the scenario.

The benefit of white guy privilege is you can just be totally oblivious to a lot of shit. I know I am.

Dawkins took a cheap (and ironic) shot a RW.  Basically he penned a letter to an imaginary muslim woman telling her she shouldn't complain about her problems because sometimes, women in elevators get asked for coffee.

It wasn't that Dawkins failed to understand the scenario... it's that he didn't think it important and that pissed off RW and her supporters.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 14 2012,18:53   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Dec. 14 2012,19:14)
It wasn't that Dawkins failed to understand the scenario... it's that he didn't think it important and that pissed off RW and her supporters.

What I meant was,it looked to me like Dawkins didn't understand how the 'simple request for a cup of coffee' looked, to her, at that time and place. I would have been creeped the fuck out by the dude, and ain't nobody interested in ravishing me by force.

   
blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,08:40   

Quote (JohnW @ Dec. 14 2012,17:48)
Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 14 2012,15:05)
Vox Day has no love for feminists, but I can't imagine him ever making comments like those PZ made in the clip.  

I know you like to look on your side in the best possible light, F, but for fuck's sake.  He thinks you shouldn't be allowed to vote, and "has no love for feminists" is the best you can do?

To be fair, FTK comes from a state where one of her female state representatives also doesn't think women should be able to vote.  Wrap your head around that!  It's just the water, FTK can't help it.

Ah, Representative Kay O'Connor

Editz for to add linky.

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Schroedinger's Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,10:07   

I am SO not going to add my two cents to this crap.

Thing is, these days, it's more entertaining to see what's going on in the US-based Atheist/Skeptic community than whatever fundies have to say (save cnuts like Eric Hovind and such).

My two cents.*








*DAMN!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,10:31   

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Could somebody who is bored or has no life give me a run-down on what's going on mheah?

I can't watch vid-joes for the next few hrs and wonder what's up. Something about PZM not being a feminist? I can't tell, there's no transcriptin' happenin'.

Just watched PZ in the clip on that blog.  A guy who is such a big mouth about supporting feminism talking like that??!  I still have no idea how so many atheists follow this guy with such blind adoration.

Oh, did something happen again? Gosh, I wasn't paying attention. I have not been at Pharyngula for months. Too busy writing, voting, gloating, getting pissed off about this guy, and getting ready to move (women still being able to own property and all until our bodies shut that down too or some such rot).

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,10:39   

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Loufcd is now a graduate!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,10:41   

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That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,12:25   

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Who cares?!? Lou deserves a quadruple, at least!

Big square hat congrats, Sir!

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,13:23   

Bravo, Lou.
Well done sir.
We should celebrate with lots of NSFW pickchers...

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,15:03   

Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 15 2012,10:31)
Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 14 2012,17:05)
     
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 14 2012,11:01)
Could somebody who is bored or has no life give me a run-down on what's going on mheah?

I can't watch vid-joes for the next few hrs and wonder what's up. Something about PZM not being a feminist? I can't tell, there's no transcriptin' happenin'.

Just watched PZ in the clip on that blog.  A guy who is such a big mouth about supporting feminism talking like that??!  I still have no idea how so many atheists follow this guy with such blind adoration.

Oh, did something happen again? Gosh, I wasn't paying attention. I have not been at Pharyngula for months. Too busy writing, voting, gloating, getting pissed off about this guy, and getting ready to move (women still being able to own property and all until our bodies shut that down too or some such rot).

Holy shit!  That guy's an asshole.  How has he been retained on the bench?

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,16:52   

My point in mentioning Vox Day was that Vox can be an ass when it comes to women's rights.  But, I've never heard him disrespect women in the way that PZ did in that clip.  

Now, you will of course say VD is disrespectful because he doesn't support women's rights.  But, PZ was disrespectful in a whole different light.  His attempt at flirting?/being funny? was highly inappropriate considering the atheist group he was talking to.  Most of those women, from what I've gathered in the past, are very sensitive to men making crude comments like that.

If he had been anyone else, they'd of tar and feathered him right there at the conference.  I've seen some of those women light into men for innocently flirting with them in an elevator for cripes sakes, but they have no problem with PZ's little display.  

So weird.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,17:40   

Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 15 2012,16:52)
...PZ was disrespectful in a whole different light.  His attempt at flirting?/being funny? was highly inappropriate considering the atheist group he was talking to.  Most of those women, from what I've gathered in the past, are very sensitive to men making crude comments like that.

If he had been anyone else, they'd of tar and feathered him right there at the conference.  I've seen some of those women light into men for innocently flirting with them in an elevator for cripes sakes, but they have no problem with PZ's little display.

Goddamn, you're dopey.

Idiots like you can't understand consent and can't understand context - that it matters when persons involved have consented to be involved and that it matters what happened both before and after a supposedly-crude remark and it matters what the whole substance of the discussion was about.

You're doubly foolish because you're believing a cut-and-spliced video put up by Reap Paden, one of the slymeballs who notoriously wants to tell lies about feminist men.

You're a creep for misrepresenting - after two years of discussion - that Rebecca Watson's comment of "guys, don't do that" regarding elevator proposition has nothing to do with "innocently flirting".  And no woman since then has lit into men for "innocently flirting" (although they have lit into men for sexual harassment of many types.)  There's a huge difference and you're an idiot if you don't understand the difference.

Stop it. Stop lying/misrepresenting the authentic voices of real women (and men).

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,17:49   

Lou graduated! Ignore Fluffy and Vex Duh. Who cares. I'll let them vote - their votes don't matter.

Lou graduated! :)

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,18:25   

Congratulations Lou!

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Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 15 2012,23:33   

Quote (hotshoe @ Dec. 15 2012,17:40)
Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 15 2012,16:52)
...PZ was disrespectful in a whole different light.  His attempt at flirting?/being funny? was highly inappropriate considering the atheist group he was talking to.  Most of those women, from what I've gathered in the past, are very sensitive to men making crude comments like that.

If he had been anyone else, they'd of tar and feathered him right there at the conference.  I've seen some of those women light into men for innocently flirting with them in an elevator for cripes sakes, but they have no problem with PZ's little display.

Goddamn, you're dopey.

Idiots like you can't understand consent and can't understand context - that it matters when persons involved have consented to be involved and that it matters what happened both before and after a supposedly-crude remark and it matters what the whole substance of the discussion was about.

You're doubly foolish because you're believing a cut-and-spliced video put up by Reap Paden, one of the slymeballs who notoriously wants to tell lies about feminist men.

You're a creep for misrepresenting - after two years of discussion - that Rebecca Watson's comment of "guys, don't do that" regarding elevator proposition has nothing to do with "innocently flirting".  And no woman since then has lit into men for "innocently flirting" (although they have lit into men for sexual harassment of many types.)  There's a huge difference and you're an idiot if you don't understand the difference.

Stop it. Stop lying/misrepresenting the authentic voices of real women (and men).

Umm....ok.  Fool that I am, I still have no clue what Ms. Skepchick had her panties in a bind over.  I went back to the video in question where she first started the "Elevatorgate" fiasco just to be sure I hadn't missed something.

Just my opinion, but her furor over some guy making a pass at her is just freaking over the top.  Good grief. All he did was ask her if she wanted to discuss her views further over  coffee in her room (or his)..can't remember which.  Big freaking deal.  Simply say, nope not interested and move on.  Jeeeezzzzz.  

PZ's comments were so much more creepy it's not even comparable.  Especially coming from an old guy talking to women who looked quite a bit younger than he was...WHO WERE ALSO ATHEISTS AND FEMINISTS.  

Come on...totally not appropriate.  PZ is always the one begging for more women to attend the atheist conferences.  Maybe he should start acting more professional...he sounded like a kid in junior high.

I'd love to see more of the conference surrounding PZ's comments.  I don't think adding more to the "cut-and-splice" would help PZ any.  But, if you have more .. bring it.  Let's have a look.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,03:50   

Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 15 2012,21:33)
 
Quote (hotshoe @ Dec. 15 2012,17:40)
   
Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 15 2012,16:52)
...PZ was disrespectful in a whole different light.  His attempt at flirting?/being funny? was highly inappropriate considering the atheist group he was talking to.  Most of those women, from what I've gathered in the past, are very sensitive to men making crude comments like that.

If he had been anyone else, they'd of tar and feathered him right there at the conference.  I've seen some of those women light into men for innocently flirting with them in an elevator for cripes sakes, but they have no problem with PZ's little display.

Goddamn, you're dopey.

Idiots like you can't understand consent and can't understand context - that it matters when persons involved have consented to be involved and that it matters what happened both before and after a supposedly-crude remark and it matters what the whole substance of the discussion was about.

You're doubly foolish because you're believing a cut-and-spliced video put up by Reap Paden, one of the slymeballs who notoriously wants to tell lies about feminist men.

You're a creep for misrepresenting - after two years of discussion - that Rebecca Watson's comment of "guys, don't do that" regarding elevator proposition has nothing to do with "innocently flirting".  And no woman since then has lit into men for "innocently flirting" (although they have lit into men for sexual harassment of many types.)  There's a huge difference and you're an idiot if you don't understand the difference.

Stop it. Stop lying/misrepresenting the authentic voices of real women (and men).

Umm....ok.  Fool that I am, I still have no clue what Ms. Skepchick had her panties in a bind over.  I went back to the video in question where she first started the "Elevatorgate" fiasco just to be sure I hadn't missed something.

Just my opinion, but her furor over some guy making a pass at her is just freaking over the top.  Good grief. All he did was ask her if she wanted to discuss her views further over  coffee in her room (or his)..can't remember which.  Big freaking deal.  Simply say, nope not interested and move on.  Jeeeezzzzz.  

PZ's comments were so much more creepy it's not even comparable.  Especially coming from an old guy talking to women who looked quite a bit younger than he was...WHO WERE ALSO ATHEISTS AND FEMINISTS.  

Come on...totally not appropriate.  PZ is always the one begging for more women to attend the atheist conferences.  Maybe he should start acting more professional...he sounded like a kid in junior high.

I'd love to see more of the conference surrounding PZ's comments.  I don't think adding more to the "cut-and-splice" would help PZ any.  But, if you have more .. bring it.  Let's have a look.

 
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Just my opinion, but her furor over some guy making a pass at her is just freaking over the top.  Good grief. All he did was ask her if she wanted to discuss her views further over  coffee in her room (or his)..can't remember which.  Big freaking deal.  Simply say, nope not interested and move on.  Jeeeezzzzz.  


I agree. (Assuming of course that the alleged incident ever actually occurred. Has the alleged guy in the elevator been identified? If so, has he told his side?)

I'm curious about what PZ said in the video but I can't watch internet videos because of my slow connection. If it's not too much trouble and someone is willing to transcribe what he said and post it here I would be thankful.

 
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I'd love to see more of the conference surrounding PZ's comments.  I don't think adding more to the "cut-and-splice" would help PZ any.  But, if you have more .. bring it.  Let's have a look.

Yes, if there's more, let's see it.

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MichaelJ



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,05:52   

Quote (hotshoe @ Dec. 16 2012,08:40)
You're doubly foolish because you're believing a cut-and-spliced video put up by Reap Paden, one of the slymeballs who notoriously wants to tell lies about feminist men.

Well I am sure that you can point out Reap's lies on the Slymepit and elsewhere. Unfortunately you can't do that at FTB as they have a habit of removing dissenting commenters and comments (UD anyone?). The despised slymepit on the other hand welcomes robust discussion and hasn't banned anyone. Their comments can be a bit coarse at times (ATBC anyone?) but there are other calmer areas outside the circled wagons at FTB where open discussion can take place.
To me most of the slymepitters, many who are women, agree to equal rights for all people, their problem is the treatment of any dissent from PZ and a handful of others.

The beauty of the video is the "we were always at war with EastAsia" kind of thing in that if somebody else was in that video PZ would have had their gut for garters. The excuse of consent wouldn't wash because of the large differential in power (The speaker is a white male with a Phd).



That's the last comment I'll make because I don't think this stuff belongs here at ATBC and should be taken to other venues.

Edited by MichaelJ on Dec. 16 2012,20:56

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,05:53   

Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 16 2012,08:49)
Lou graduated! Ignore Fluffy and Vex Duh. Who cares. I'll let them vote - their votes don't matter.

Lou graduated! :)

Yeh congrats Lou

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,06:37   

Do we have to call Lou 'Doctor' now? :)

Will there be debauchery and other merriment at the graduation party and are we all invited?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,07:50   

Congratulations Lou, you sneaky bastard!



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,09:11   

Here's something I came across in "rants & raves" on Craigslist:

"Have you ever wondered how the whole God Thing happened? Not the question about how the earth and mankind came into being, but why a god? More specifically, why does God look like a man? Is it really plausible that otherwise reasonable people came to that conclusion for no good reason?

Here's a thought: they had a reason. Someone told them so; someone who looked remarkably just like a man and -- owing to the seeming magnificence of his abilities--All Powerful. The only thing wrong with most spiritual paths is God--their God, any God, whatever God. . . he stinks of man. My thesis: the point where science and spirituality intersect is God. More importantly, the degree to which spirituality is corrupt is the measure of man's attempt to usurp and control it.

Jesus Christ (mind you, I'm not a Christian) was likely doing just fine on his path of virtue--meditating, discovering truths and developing wisdom--until that interfering dude calling himself Dad showed up and skewed the lot. Purposefully, I might add. I'm not a scientist, nor even a science fiction aficionado (nor am I 'religious'), but I've caught a whiff of scientific advancements that leads me to think time travel is not far off. And if it's in the future it's everywhere, right? Psychotronic warfare, directed energy weapons, remote viewing, mind reading goggles and computers, holographs, virtual this and virtual that. . . it all smacks of very Buddhist sensibilities and beliefs (except the war and destruction part). Things previously only found in the pages of sci-fi are now becoming commonplace and we have the likes of celebrated scientist Richard Dawkins ending a talk on TED by mentioning the probability of future generations being able to walk through walls because they know they can. Years ago, I came across a quote about how scientists would reach the top of the mountain only to discover mystics already there, waiting for them. Buddhists have long meditated on the idea that life, our world, is as fundamentally insubstantial as a dream.

Richard Dawkins also gave another Ted Talk proclaiming, as a High Priest of Science, There is no God! (there is no God, there is no God), in effect doing two things: 1) weaning culture off that tit, God, and 2) identifying Science as the truth-teller, the saviour to liberate mankind from the lie of God. Omitting entirely it was Science, in the hands of corrupt power-mongers, that created the God delusion in the first place.
So, yes, I'm going on the premise that time travel happens. I don't know how, but it's so. (I don't know how electricity works, either, but it does.) I don't believe in god(s) but I believe this. Sadly, with time travel came the urge to play God. . . but first they had to make him up.

Here's a thought: God is just Dog spelled backwards. Everybody loves dogs, right?

And why weren't there pictures/images allowed of God?

Here's a thought: At some point, someone would be liable to point out, "Hey, God looks an awful lot like that CIA creep. . . what's his name? Jones? Yeah--Jones, now there's a sadistic fk Jones, until he died and McPrick took over the role. "Jones got drunk at a xmas party last year and announced no one had the right to weigh in on gov't issues but him and his CIA cronies because only they had a clue about the truth. What a jackass."

And just imagine the thrill of making misogyny sacrosanct. (Take that you c___t of an ex-wife who took the house and half my pension.)

It follows, of course, that there are 'travellers' amongst us, people from the future with likely very good reason--need--to come to an earlier time. And it follows these people are our children. They are our human family in the position of both needing help and being able to give help. They, too, are held in the sway of the self-serving, fear mongering powers-that-be. But truth is a game changer.

As philosopher Mary Midgley says, 'science is just the most recent creation myth'. Our world is 'a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma'. Science explains some things but its answers actually veil more profound truths. One of Buddhism's central understandings should be followed as a lodestar: Nothing is real but everything matters.
Wishing you all the best, Tannisz

PS The Dalai Lama caused a big controversy by cautioning all Buddhists to stop venerating a God called 'Dolgyal'. He said Dolgyal, though worshipped by many Buddhists for hundreds of years, was actually a worldly spirit. He also mentioned that in a dream/vision he saw him a white man. Now, this may be more a stretch for you than it is for me, but do you see the words 'dog' and 'loyal' in that name?
PSS "If you see a buddha (a god) in the middle of the road, kill him (or her)." Metaphorically.

save this page-- it might get flagged and deleted very quickly"

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 16 2012,09:34   

Quote (Ftk @ Dec. 15 2012,16:52)
Now, you will of course say VD is disrespectful because he doesn't support women's rights.  But, PZ was disrespectful in a whole different light.  His attempt at flirting?/being funny? was highly inappropriate considering the atheist group he was talking to.  Most of those women, from what I've gathered in the past, are very sensitive to men making crude comments like that.

No. VD is disrespectful because he is a misogynistic asshole.  Truly bizarre that you can't get yourself to say that.  Is it because he's in your big tent?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2012,04:37   

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THE MAYAN SKEPTIC APOCALYPSE 12/21/2012

we really enjoy your atheist forum

do a search on youtube for skepticality

a little souvenir

it is the video about the PIGS?

Aren't you in jail, Dennis?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 22 2012,15:48   

Quote (mayanskeptic @ Dec. 21 2012,16:22)
THE MAYAN SKEPTIC APOCALYPSE 12/21/2012

we really enjoy your atheist forum

do a search on youtube for skepticality

a little souvenir

it is the video about the PIGS?

To be read in the voice of Church Lady.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,08:24   

Ho Ho, MoFos!



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 23 2012,10:27   

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a joyous New Year. For those of you who, like Ebenezer Scrooge, think Christmas is a humbug I have a friendly hint to help you deal with those pesky late night visitors:





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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,13:14   

Everyone have a nice Xmas eve.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,13:31   

Appropriately named Tard the Kitty sayz:



Have a happy one in spite of the Tards!

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we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed.  Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 24 2012,20:48   

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Dec. 24 2012,13:14)
Everyone have a nice Xmas eve.

Joyeuses Fêtes mon ami!

added in edit:  and mes amis!

Edited by J-Dog on Dec. 24 2012,20:49

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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