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Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,15:04    Joel, Joel, Joel... http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1562 NDE = materialism, apparently. In other news, CSI + Hoo Hoos = Babies -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,15:12    Tardlicious: http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1561#comment-58935 Quote Better to say it is preprogrammed to learn music. We are preprogrammed to experience certain kinds of conscious modes when certain kinds of waveform relationships are heard. You wave that hand, sunshine. but are we programmed to learn to be programmed to learn to be programmed to learn to be programmed to learn to be programmed to learn to be programmed to learn to be programmed to learm music? And here I was thinking that the reason eastern scales and modes sound crappy to my western ear was cultural. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,16:07    Quote Uh, maybe because Tony Snow is not a complete idiot? nope, just ignorant and toadish. DOL is both ignorant AND a complete idiot. anybody who starts off a poot on "the debate that doesn't exist" with: Quote Scientific inquiry and ID provide useful angles of approach to ultimate questions. likes sound bites far better than accurate statements. (that's the toady part). and this: Quote Also, let students know that a sizeable number of scientists believe in a Designer, since science involves a quest to discover and decode universal design. is the ignorance part. did Snow say something intelligent in there? I must have missed it. and Densye's response: Quote I like Snow's approach insofar as he intuits that the controversy originated with the attempt to force Darwinism as the creation story of materialism on the school system. is the complete idiot part. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,16:15    I doubt Tony Snow knows the least bit what distinguishes ID from creationism. As a republican operative, his remarks are trying to finesse the yokels, while basically standing up in a limited way for scientists. That second paragraph Quote Also, let students know that a sizeable number of scientists believe in a Designer, since science involves a quest to discover and decode universal design. (A sizeable number of scientists also don't believe in G-d.) Meanwhile, issue similar warnings against silly abuses of holy writ, since scripture has little or nothing to say about matters of "hard" science. strikes me as a pretty typical way intelligent conservatives try to support science while skirting the minefield of their crazy dimbulb compatriots. I'm not saying he's behaving in the best way possible, but I think it reveals that he's not an idiot, he knows evolution is true, but he's trying not to rile his political allies. Having lived in Florida, Georgia, Texas, Indiana, and North Carolina, I've made similar remarks. You try to sneak the truth in, in a guarded way that won't piss off your neighbors.

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,16:22    Quote strikes me as a pretty typical way intelligent conservatives ... if so, i weep for those that claim to be "intelligent" conservatives, though really, as I earlier contended, he reveals more of his ignorance of what science is and does, than his actual intelligence level per se.  (unlike the church lady, who makes quite clear just how much intelligence she is lacking) I actually wish that Bush made his science advisor the press secretary. now THAT would have been interesting. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

Ichthyic Posts: 3325 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,16:28    Quote 'tard says: Better to say it is preprogrammed to learn music. We are preprogrammed to experience certain kinds of conscious modes when certain kinds of waveform relationships are heard. word for the day, spingerbot: predisposed. I think you will find this far more ammenable to the argument you are so futilely trying to make.  (Hint: substitute for where you use "preprogrammed"). It's still not accurate, but at least you might get yourself a little closer to understanding what might really be going on. -------------- "And the sea will grant each man new hope..." -CC

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 06 2006,17:30    Quote I'm also told that trees are musicians. And dern good ones, too.  Mostly Lanegan. -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,04:57    Joel illustrates his Lions and Tigers and Bears "Goths, homeless, drug addicts, atheists, etc," with these images Now, okay, that's a goth, then a "homeless", then an atheist, but who's the woman? Is she a drug addict? Or does this have something to do with her hoo-hoo?

Chris Hyland Posts: 705 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,07:05    What on Earth have goths got to do with anything? I used to know a couple of goths who go to church every week.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,07:19    Quote (Chris Hyland @ Sep. 07 2006,12:05) What on Earth have goths got to do with anything? I used to know a couple of goths who go to church every week. Okay, so Joel made one mistake. Cut him some slack. He's convinced me of the rest of his argument, which is that Darwinism is the direct cause of homelessness, atheism, and girls' hoohoos. I'm sure these things never existed before Charles wrote his wicked, wicked, book. -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,07:46    PaV: Quote It might have been nice for Michael Behe to have had this experiment at the Dover trial. The judge might have even succeeded in understooding the implications of this study. There's plenty of evidence for ID.  It just so happens that the defense didn't have any on hand at the trial. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,08:01    Quote (2ndclass @ Sep. 07 2006,13:46) PaV:   Quote It might have been nice for Michael Behe to have had this experiment at the Dover trial. The judge might have even succeeded in understooding the implications of this study. There's plenty of evidence for ID.  It just so happens that the defense didn't have any on hand at the trial. LOL "Honey, did you make sure you packed everything?" "Wallet...mumble mumble ...shirts... mumble mumble Yes, dear." "Okay, enjoy the flight." "Thanks hon." (later that day) "Would you like some more peanuts, sir?" "Wha oh yeah, sure. I've just got a nagging feeling I forgot something." (Later that week. Inside the courtroom.) "So, is the defense ready to present it's evidence?" "Sure are, your honor." (turns around) "So where's that evidence that ID is true?" "Oh SH1T!"

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,08:12    Quote So people who don’t keep the Sabbath aren’t Christians either? Or wish they had some of their neighbor’s stuff? How many Christians are on this board? 3? Comment by HodorH — September 7, 2006 @ 10:43 am I heart uncommon descent. the whole thread is just excellent.

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,09:08    Jerry - Jerry! - Jerry! http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1562#comment-59055 Quote Carlos, Christians subscribe to the ten commandments. Number 6 is do not kill and number 9 is do not lie. This eliminates abortion and the way evolution is currently taught in the schools. Comment by jerry — September 7, 2006 @ 10:23 am a guick gander at  Deuteronomy 5:6-5:21, shows: Quote 6: "Neither shall you commit adultery." 9: ""Neither shall you covet your neighbor's wife." Funny in light of Quote Sounds like the “no true Scotsman” fallacy to me. Why am I wrong? Because it doesn’t apply to the argument. IOW, while using sugar on porridge as a criteria for determining nationality/ethnicity leads to inaccuracy, national/ethnicty still can be determined. IOW, true Scotsmens exist. Would a truely Christian government — one based on the teachings of Jesus — permit abortion on demand? I don’t think so. Evolution taught in schools? You can make the argument that it would. Regardless, the terms of debate would include the presumption a truely Christian government can exist and whether or not such a thing meets the criteria. Comment by tribune7 — September 7, 2006 @ 9:23 am -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

jujuquisp Posts: 129 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,09:12    I guarantee you that DaveScot has never been even remotely close to real combat when he was in the marines.  In fact, in a time of war, DaveScot wouldn't even have been needed close to the front lines.  If I were a vet, I would probably be pretty pissed off at a guy like DaveScot and his boasting about his service.  I don't think vets that have served in combat blab on and on in blogs about how great serving in the marines was or about how many people they can beat up.  The vets that I have known who have served were pretty quiet about what happened and weren't very quick to reveal their experiences.  The few times when I did hear their stories, it was a very deep and somber experience.  F*ck DaveScot and his bullsh*t.  The pig makes me sick.

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,10:26    At ISCID, Davison demands that Dave repost his papers on UD.  The funniest line is: Quote The reputation and integrity of Uncommon Descent is on the line. Never let it be said that JAD doesn't have a sense of humor. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,10:47    Quote (2ndclass @ Sep. 07 2006,15:26) At ISCID, Davison demands that Dave repost his papers on UD.  The funniest line is:     Quote The reputation and integrity of Uncommon Descent is on the line. Never let it be said that JAD doesn't have a sense of humor. But on a good day, DT has a BETTER sense of humor:   Quote DaveScot Member Member # 1545  posted 07. September 2006 13:51                     You have a really strange way of asking for things, John. When you were young lad did your letters to Santa go something like this: Dear Santa, I want a train set for Christmas you fat stupid bully. Got that? Write that down! Hatefully yours, John A. Davison ROFLMAO I can't help but wonder what the UD crowd thinks of Davison bon mots like this:   Quote I meant that the origin of life WAS a miracle and possibly took place more than once. I don't believe it can ever occur now because I don't believe that one or more Gods are still around, nor do they need to be. That is the whole thrust of the Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis. Davison cranks up the crank quotient all the way up to eleven: Quote My fellow Creationists have even found it necessary not only to ignore me and my papers but to go to extraordinary lengths to denigrate, defame and insult me in the person of David Springer who has pursued me wherever I have commented with one end in mind, which is to eliminate me from the current discussion concerning organic evolution. It is amazing that the Creationist faction which I take to be identified with Uncommon Descent refuses to recognize a fellow Creationist when everything I have ever published establishes Intelligent Design beyond the shadow of doubt. William Dembski, the leader of the "Intelligent Design movement" has never mentioned my name either in hard copy or at his forum. Instead he has permitted and apparently encouraged his personally appointed blogczar not only to remove all my papers from the Archives of Uncommon Descent and then refuse to replace them, but sent that same iron fisted blogczar, the biggest bully of all time, out to defame me at every other forum where I have ever appeared including this one. Nothing could possibly be more revealing and at the same time more deeply satisfying to this old physiologist. I enjoy hearing Springer call me all those hideous names. It is music to my ancient ears. It is proof that I am regarded as a threat to the "Intelligent Design movement." Nothing could be further from the truth as I was presenting evidence for Intelligent Design when the present leaders of that "movement" were in high school. So it seems that I have been able to alienate both major factions, no small achievement if I do say so myself. I must be doing something extremely well. I am content. (My selected boldfacing.) -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,10:54    Quote The reputation and integrity of Uncommon Descent is on the line. -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Richardthughes Posts: 11178 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,11:24    all the way up to eleven? Quote Jeanine: You don't, you don't do heavy metal in doubly, you know, I Mean...it's Nigel:   In what???  In what??? Jeanine: In doubly... Nigel:   In dublin!?!  What's that? David:   She means Dolby, alright?  She means Dolby, you know?  You know perfectly well what she means. -------------- "Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield "You magnificent bastard! " : Louis "ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard "I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932 "...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

jujuquisp Posts: 129 Joined: Mar. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,11:41    I apologize for my post regarding DaveScot's service in the Marines.  I will try to be more tactful in the future in my disparaging remarks about intellectual cretins.  A new baby and lack of sleep have caused a lapse in judgment.

Mr_Christopher Posts: 1238 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,11:43    A moment of clarity in young Joel's evangelical thread Quote my original point was that it’s an exaggeration to compare Christians in America to what happened to the Native Americans. You guys are shifting the focus to how a Gov. filled with Christians should run a country. The fact is that our country is very kind to Christians. They can own large corporations, they can live, eat and work anywhere they want. They can practice religion how they want. They can hold the highest positions in government (something that atheists can’t do), they can get an education (even in private schools that teach some rigid beliefs), etc. So how are Xians today (that make up the vast majority of the US) like the Native Americans? I find it odd that a site called “stop lying to us” is making such an incorrect comparison. Comment by Fross — September 7, 2006 @ 4:33 pm Fross doesn't seem to get the Christian = persecuted victim thing and just because they say "stop lying to us" does not mean they are not going to lie to themselves and lie to others.  Wake up Fross! . -------------- Uncommon Descent is a moral cesspool, a festering intellectual ghetto that intoxicates and degrades its inhabitants - Stephen Matheson

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,11:45    mike1962:   Quote Blah blah blah. Bottom line is, put up or shut up. Either NDE can give a detailed account of the development of a certain biological structures or it can’t. Mike, it isn't NDE's task to match your pathetic level of detail.  According to your version of scientific methodology, all we have to do is say "NDE isn't a mechanistic theory" and we get a free pass. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,11:54    "Jo0oOel...I want to taste you...Love meeee" -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

ScaryFacts Posts: 337 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,12:04    Quote "Jo0oOel...I want to taste you...Love meeee" It's cruel to pick on the weak for your own amusement. (Unless it's really funny and they deserve it.)

deadman_932 Posts: 3094 Joined: May 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,12:10    Darwin made me do it...yeah, that's it...Darwinnnnn. -------------- AtBC Award for Thoroughness in the Face of Creationism

Alan Fox Posts: 1556 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,12:13    Quote (jujuquisp @ Sep. 07 2006,11:41) I apologize for my post regarding DaveScot's service in the Marines.  I will try to be more tactful in the future in my disparaging remarks about intellectual cretins.  A new baby and lack of sleep have caused a lapse in judgment. Congratulations on the new arrival.

argystokes Posts: 766 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,12:40    Quote (Alan Fox @ Sep. 07 2006,15:13) Quote (jujuquisp @ Sep. 07 2006,11:41) I apologize for my post regarding DaveScot's service in the Marines.  I will try to be more tactful in the future in my disparaging remarks about intellectual cretins.  A new baby and lack of sleep have caused a lapse in judgment. Congratulations on the new arrival. I see you've been putting that PSoTaS to work! -------------- "Why waste time learning, when ignorance is instantaneous?" -Calvin

2ndclass Posts: 182 Joined: June 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,13:30    todd, with some strikingly brilliant logic: Quote ID fills in no gaps. It looks at what we do know (or think we know) and concludes biotic life appears to be designed because it was designed. -------------- "I wasn't aware that classical physics had established a position on whether intelligent agents exercising free were constrained by 2LOT into increasing entropy." -DaveScot

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,13:34    Quote The reputation and integrity of Uncommon Descent is on the line. Quote I find it odd that a site called “stop lying to us” is making such an incorrect comparison. Quote ID fills in no gaps. It looks at what we do know (or think we know) and concludes biotic life appears to be designed because it was designed. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. I think I need a cigarette. Uncommonly Dense is the greatest website of all time.

Arden Chatfield Posts: 6657 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2006,13:57    Quote biotic life appears to be designed because it was designed. Ponder this one for a while. Roll it around in your brain. Basically: Life looks designed. Why? Because it is, dude! QED! -------------- "Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

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