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coldfirephoenix



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2017,17:51   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 11 2017,17:35)
Wesley is in the ID (fake) news!

evolutionnews.org/2017/10/how-notable-do-you-really-have-to-be-to-merit-a-wikipedia-entry/
     
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I experimented by searching for names of random ID critics. Some you’d expect to be featured – Jerry Coyne or Kenneth Miller, for instance. Fine. But a team of bloggers for the now moribund site Panda’s Thumb? Yes, they are there including such luminaries as Wesley R. Elsberry. Read his entry and tell me, honestly, if you think he’s more “notable” than Günter Bechly? It indicates that Elsberry is a marine biologist, but his LinkedIn biography seems to have been updated more recently. It gives him as being currently employed as a programmer for a company offering “property management software solutions.” I suppose that’s notable if you’re a property manager.


And in case anyone was wondering where my latest tangent came from I owe it all to Denyse O'Leary, who had a crazy sounding yet fantastic idea:

uncommondescent.com/religion/silicon-valley-religion-the-final-end-of-science-is-the-revelation-of-the-absurd/      
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Naturalists will believe in anything except reason, free will, or reality. One thing naturalist cults can probably count on is lots of free publicity from former mainstream media. The story practically writes itself, right?: Nerd programs computer to pray… is just the beginning.


The "Eureka!" moment was such an eye-opener that I had to seek professional help. Here is what neuroscientists had to say about it:

www.reddit.com/r/neuro/comments/75m0yi/is_perception_a_controlled_hallucination/

All we are now learning about how we work is more than meeting my expectations for unfathomable changes to human civilization being caused by what is best explained by a technological singularity.

No, Gary, no.

You were so close....go back. Seek help. I am not kidding, everything about your behavior is throwing red flags that you have mental issues.

You are obsessive (5 years in this forum alone, among many others, despite absolutely everyone unanimously telling you that you are completely wrong), you have disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence), you have trouble relating to what people are actually feeling and expressing (at one point you paraded around an email that essentially told you you were asking the wrong questions, because you thought the guy you had bothered praised you), you are constantly self-aggrandizing, while at the same time portraying yourself as the victim for failing.
You have trouble understanding simple chains of logic.

I'm no professional, but all these things are textbook red flags. And I'm not the only one who noticed that, people have independently from each other suggested that you had mental problems. Go get help!


Buuuuut: If you delusions won't allow you to recognize any of that, then you might as well go back and answer my question! You know, the one about intelligent cause and intelligent creator....

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2017,20:10   

Yeah, just when does a cause have intelligence of its own?

  
Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 12 2017,22:01   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 12 2017,20:10)
Yeah, just when does a cause have intelligence of its own?

When you're trying to dress creationism up in a cheap leisure suit ( as opposed to the usual tuxedo) and convince everyone it's a compromise position.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2017,05:29   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 13 2017,06:01)
 
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 12 2017,20:10)
Yeah, just when does a cause have intelligence of its own?

When you're trying to dress creationism up in a cheap leisure suit ( as opposed to the usual tuxedo) and convince everyone it's a compromise position.

Or in Gary's case fit all his baggage into a cheap burlap sack shirt. With masking tape frills. Passion in the bottom of a KFC bucket.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 13 2017,22:46   

Quote (Texas Teach @ Oct. 12 2017,21:01)
Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 12 2017,20:10)
Yeah, just when does a cause have intelligence of its own?

When you're trying to dress creationism up in a cheap leisure suit ( as opposed to the usual tuxedo) and convince everyone it's a compromise position.

Surely not.

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 15 2017,11:02   

Last Thursday my wife Laurie had to be scheduled for emergency surgery on Friday for her heart condition. She now has a pacemaker.  The surgery ended up being scheduled for the same day students from Holyoke Community College were here to study the tracksite.

Although there are signs of hope for the future: I now feel like if the retaliation from countries that increasingly want to nuke us into oblivion don't destroy us then the Trump administration will force the public schools and other national resources to use religion to destroy us from within. It seems like the only thing for certain is that my wife and I will soon get to die broke, so that those with delusions of grandeur can freely spread deadly ignorance and their holy greed. Forums like this one only makes our problems worse.

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ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 15 2017,13:48   

Firstly, may I wish your wife a speedy and complete recovery.

 
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Forums like this one only makes our problems worse.


No, Gaulin, it isn't the forum that is at fault. It is your pig-headed reluctance to admit that your "theory-model" is, scientifically, a busted flush. The fatal flaws in your rubbish have been pointed out here and in the other fora you pollute. You don't answer questions about your evidence for your ideas, you don't accept that you are not doing science, you provide no way of testing your ideas and all in all make it harder for yourself.

Now is the time to abandon your religious blathering and look after your wife and family, yourself included.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 15 2017,15:56   

Quote (ChemiCat @ Oct. 15 2017,11:48)
Firstly, may I wish your wife a speedy and complete recovery.

 
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Forums like this one only makes our problems worse.


No, Gaulin, it isn't the forum that is at fault. It is your pig-headed reluctance to admit that your "theory-model" is, scientifically, a busted flush. The fatal flaws in your rubbish have been pointed out here and in the other fora you pollute. You don't answer questions about your evidence for your ideas, you don't accept that you are not doing science, you provide no way of testing your ideas and all in all make it harder for yourself.

Now is the time to abandon your religious blathering and look after your wife and family, yourself included.

Never happen. Gary's ego is more important to him that his family's lives.

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coldfirephoenix



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 15 2017,19:15   

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Last Thursday my wife Laurie had to be scheduled for emergency surgery on Friday for her heart condition. She now has a pacemaker.


I wish your wife good health and wellbeing.

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The surgery ended up being scheduled for the same day students from Holyoke Community College were here to study the tracksite.


Not sure why you felt the need to include this. I genuinely hope you didn't just try to use your wife's surgery as a segway into trying to appear scientifically relevant, just because something of actual value happens to be on a piece of land that you happen to own. It has nothing to do with you.

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I now feel like if the retaliation from countries that increasingly want to nuke us into oblivion don't destroy us then the Trump administration will force the public schools and other national resources to use religion to destroy us from within. It seems like the only thing for certain is that my wife and I will soon get to die broke, so that those with delusions of grandeur can freely spread deadly ignorance and their holy greed. Forums like this one only makes our problems worse.


Do you really not see any hypocrisy in this? Are you seriously that self-unaware?
"delusions of grandeur", "spread[ing] deadly ignorance", "use religion to destroy [schools]"?
Does this really not remind you of anyone?

As others have pointed out, now would be the perfect time to face facts and abandon your religious woo-woo, to take care of your family. You spent (and spend) so much time on this, if you put that into something productive, your life could be looking so much better!

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 16 2017,16:01   

Re "Are you seriously that self-unaware?"

Not that he's aware of!

  
GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2017,06:46   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 16 2017,02:07)
Klinghoffer's hurt over at EN&V because I appear in Wikipedia and one of their guys is having issues there.

If Klinghoffer wanted to know about "notability" and Wikipedia, he could have consulted Wikipedia. Ironically, Klinghoffer bringing up my name (again) on EN&V adds another data point for my notability.

And Klinghoffer's sneering is, as usual, off the mark. I have a track record in marine biology that is itself not erased because I have changed my career path. Besides collaborating in published research, this includes professional recognition by the Society for Marine Mammalogy and professional involvement in a NOAA workshop on harm to cetaceans from Navy SONAR. It's almost as if Klinghoffer is assuming that whatever place you end up is the only place you ever could have been, which would probably discomfit any number of DI Fellows were it to be applied uniformly and without hypocrisy.  

Additionally, if Klinghoffer had bothered to examine the "Talk" tab for my Wikipedia page, he might have seen that I had noted my change in employment there quite some time ago. It isn't as if I have been keeping it a secret known only to people who can visit LinkedIn. And property managers are noting my current employer, thanks. At least some small part of that has to do with my bringing evolutionary computation to analysis and forecasting there.

ETA: Point on hypocrisy.

Congratulations Wesley. I have to agree that the success of your real estate related application is a noteworthy accomplishment. Feel free to explain more.

And if anyone is wondering what set me off on finances then it has to do with an AT&T family plan that was supposed to cost Laurie almost nothing arriving in her name and totaling $1,084 for two months, just to keep her wireless phone on (already have fast internet) and phone(s)+TV at my daughter's house! There is no way that they can afford that, and I sure can't, regardless of it being what's expected everyone has these days for school or whatever.

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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2017,20:31   

And (rant mode on) in case of extreme national emergency expect your gadget driven communication systems to fail. If you cannot pay your bill by the time service does maybe come back on after everything even satellites get hacked or blown up then I guess you're even more on your own:

mashable.com/2017/09/21/puerto-rico-mobile-internet-hurricane-maria/#uEUxN_QcmOqG

Even though things seem bleak Quack and others are still probably going to love where this problem is leading society back to:

www.arrl.org/news/caribbean-telecommunications-union-head-calls-for-new-generation-of-hams


www.arrl.org/public-service

I have exactly the right music video, see 2:39

Arcade Fire - Ready to Start
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oI27uSzxNQ

Your local AM/FM and TV broadcasters can also be counted on to do their best to get back on the air again, to at least those who still own a real radio, from the days before "streaming". Please keep them strong too.

Spread the word. 73's

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N.Wells



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2017,20:52   

Good luck to your wife.

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 17 2017,21:40   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 17 2017,06:46)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 16 2017,02:07)
Klinghoffer's hurt over at EN&V because I appear in Wikipedia and one of their guys is having issues there.

If Klinghoffer wanted to know about "notability" and Wikipedia, he could have consulted Wikipedia. Ironically, Klinghoffer bringing up my name (again) on EN&V adds another data point for my notability.

And Klinghoffer's sneering is, as usual, off the mark. I have a track record in marine biology that is itself not erased because I have changed my career path. Besides collaborating in published research, this includes professional recognition by the Society for Marine Mammalogy and professional involvement in a NOAA workshop on harm to cetaceans from Navy SONAR. It's almost as if Klinghoffer is assuming that whatever place you end up is the only place you ever could have been, which would probably discomfit any number of DI Fellows were it to be applied uniformly and without hypocrisy.  

Additionally, if Klinghoffer had bothered to examine the "Talk" tab for my Wikipedia page, he might have seen that I had noted my change in employment there quite some time ago. It isn't as if I have been keeping it a secret known only to people who can visit LinkedIn. And property managers are noting my current employer, thanks. At least some small part of that has to do with my bringing evolutionary computation to analysis and forecasting there.

ETA: Point on hypocrisy.

Congratulations Wesley. I have to agree that the success of your real estate related application is a noteworthy accomplishment. Feel free to explain more.

And if anyone is wondering what set me off on finances then it has to do with an AT&T family plan that was supposed to cost Laurie almost nothing arriving in her name and totaling $1,084 for two months, just to keep her wireless phone on (already have fast internet) and phone(s)+TV at my daughter's house! There is no way that they can afford that, and I sure can't, regardless of it being what's expected everyone has these days for school or whatever.

There are more than a few questions I've asked Gary up-thread that are still outstanding. If Gary wants info, Gary needs to pony up his own.

Besides which, review of the thread reveals that Gary is completely lost when attempting to discuss evolutionary computation.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2017,10:21   

Gary's on a mission for nothing from nowhere.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2017,14:38   

Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 19 2017,09:21)
Gary's on a mission for nothing from nowhere.

Is he there yet?

  
Texas Teach



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2017,16:01   

Quote (Henry J @ Oct. 19 2017,14:38)
Quote (k.e.. @ Oct. 19 2017,09:21)
Gary's on a mission for nothing from nowhere.

Is he there yet?

He's so far gone he's half way back.

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2017,09:43   

He's a victim of his own hoax, if I were him I'd be asking for my money back.

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"I get a strong breeze from my monitor every time k.e. puts on his clown DaveTard suit" dogdidit
"ID is deader than Lenny Flanks granmaws dildo batteries" Erasmus
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GaryGaulin



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2017,12:23   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 17 2017,21:40)
   
Quote (GaryGaulin @ Oct. 17 2017,06:46)
       
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Oct. 16 2017,02:07)
Klinghoffer's hurt over at EN&V because I appear in Wikipedia and one of their guys is having issues there.

If Klinghoffer wanted to know about "notability" and Wikipedia, he could have consulted Wikipedia. Ironically, Klinghoffer bringing up my name (again) on EN&V adds another data point for my notability.

And Klinghoffer's sneering is, as usual, off the mark. I have a track record in marine biology that is itself not erased because I have changed my career path. Besides collaborating in published research, this includes professional recognition by the Society for Marine Mammalogy and professional involvement in a NOAA workshop on harm to cetaceans from Navy SONAR. It's almost as if Klinghoffer is assuming that whatever place you end up is the only place you ever could have been, which would probably discomfit any number of DI Fellows were it to be applied uniformly and without hypocrisy.  

Additionally, if Klinghoffer had bothered to examine the "Talk" tab for my Wikipedia page, he might have seen that I had noted my change in employment there quite some time ago. It isn't as if I have been keeping it a secret known only to people who can visit LinkedIn. And property managers are noting my current employer, thanks. At least some small part of that has to do with my bringing evolutionary computation to analysis and forecasting there.

ETA: Point on hypocrisy.

Congratulations Wesley. I have to agree that the success of your real estate related application is a noteworthy accomplishment. Feel free to explain more.

And if anyone is wondering what set me off on finances then it has to do with an AT&T family plan that was supposed to cost Laurie almost nothing arriving in her name and totaling $1,084 for two months, just to keep her wireless phone on (already have fast internet) and phone(s)+TV at my daughter's house! There is no way that they can afford that, and I sure can't, regardless of it being what's expected everyone has these days for school or whatever.

There are more than a few questions I've asked Gary up-thread that are still outstanding. If Gary wants info, Gary needs to pony up his own.

Besides which, review of the thread reveals that Gary is completely lost when attempting to discuss evolutionary computation.

That response is so much like Sheldon Cooper the only thing I can think of to add is this:

Sheldon Cooper the most annoying behaviours
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLP8dXJtniw

I would though love to see your academic rival Günter Bechly (et al.) answer to you, here in your forum. You could make a thread just for them, or they can just jump into mine. That would be fun.

I'll be back to work on the new guidance system. To solve the problem of jerky motion I increased the resolution to 8 time dependent speeds in the positive and 8 speeds in the negative direction. Uses standard physics to approximate standard "opposing muscle" systems. It is not necessary to use the David Heiserman based control system but where included: the origin of its Cellular Level behavior (simple comparator type neural positioning circuit) is better accounted for. To speed things up I may start off without it, in which case the (per David Heiserman) "Main Memory" RAM entirely becomes the wave vectored Spatial Memory that also addresses and stores data like a standard RAM. Adding a Heiserman based system for the Left/Right and Forward/Reverse muscle control would (after training) result in the exact same behavior, just take a little time to develop.

Now stop taking yourself too seriously, lighten up.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2017,17:47   

What a delusional response from Gary. That didn't answer any of the outstanding questions.

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ChemiCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2017,03:21   

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What a delusional response from Gary. That didn't answer any of the outstanding questions.


Wesley, the first five rules of the Gaulin thread are that Gaulin doesn't answer questions.

Sorry, that should read "the only rules...

At least whilst he is mucking about with his Pacman look-alike he is not harming anyone other than his family.

  
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