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Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,11:14

If you've read any of my posts, you must know
I believe that life is not by chance.

I believe that an IDOL (Infinite Designer of
Life) created me, you, and our tools (senses)
to see it.

By the way, I'm the world's worst spealer.

This guy from Iowa told me a joke the other
day but it's too corny to repeat.

Every normal person has six senses, contacts with reality.
Jesus could have said, “She’s not dead. She's sleeping. She’s lost her contacts with reality” We do also when we “sleep”.

If there was no such thing as light, there would be no need for an eye, much less two. Nor feet and balance if there was no ground. (BTW, a snake crawls.)

If someone agreed to work for a penny a day for six days, (the seventh is a day off), they would, or should, receive 6 cents pay.

Each of our senses has a zero, reference (balance) point, in the middle.
A lilly has one head stem with six stems around it.  Balanced on the top of
each outer stem is an elongated pollen pod pivoting in the wind.

Try this:

Take six pennies and place them around the seventh  and see if they “fit”.  They "rest on the seventh."

Man’s sixth sense is balance. It’s in the inner ear with a separate nerve to the brain and has nothing to do with hearing.

God loves balance and that’s the reason every living thing, and fossils too, are symmetrical,
like the center of heaven. Also like the name of the mother of all living, “Eve”. Also like the creator’s name , “I Am that I Am”

Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings,
and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Balance (perspictive)

Everyone likes a “level” playing field.

Psa 94:1 O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself
.
While, IMO, vengeance is not a healthy motive for living, at least God gets even. (Even, so come Lord Jesus)

Man, like God and Eve, has three faces, love, hate, and indifference.
Remember the movie, “The Three Faces of Eve”. Her names were “Eve White”, “Eve Black” and plain “Jane”.
One cannot go from love to hate or hate to love without going through the middle one.
If, and “life" has an “if” in the middle, you stay in your “happy face”, I can’t guarantee complete happiness but things will, I’m sure, be a lot better.

Because of a stupid error on my part, I had to rewrite all of the above after hitting the wrong click.
I was taking a break and trying to remember what all I had written when the song, “Put on a happy face” began on my music channel.


Eve asked Adam, " Honey, do you love me? "
He replied, " You know I do. You're the only woman in the world for me."
She then remarked, " Let me count your ribs."

War and peace, life and death are not opposites, as black and white are.

Hot and cold are opposites.

“Warm and cool” or “morning and evening” are the same, alike. It’s just a matter of perspective, where you’re commin’ from.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in
the garden in the cool of the day: (evening, half day, half night)
Note to myself Add the following to the "3 faces of Eve"
(Story # 160 on www.//hereoisreal.com)

Which of your, or someone else’s faces should you “respect”? You could spend your whole life creating something beautiful but in one moment of anger destroy it.

Moses wasted forty days and nights of God’s time in a sudden fit of anger so God told him to come on back up the mountain and he’d write the tablets again.
That which is written in stone twice, back and front, is written in stone.

If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?

God “respected” a blood offering from Abel.

Can God be facetious?  

Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar

More balance:

Life is created by the joining together of two opposites.
Once upon a time there was this woman who was an optimist who married a doubting Thomas.
They had a child who became an optometrist.

Once upon a time there was a wise queen and a dumb king
who had a child they named “Wisdom”.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold,
thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an az,
and upon a colt the foal of an az.(first & last)
Thy king dumb come.

Is the intelligent creator dumb?  He"s at least as smart as me and you.
Can the intelligent designer hide a truth from me and you?  You bet your sweet az.

Zero
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Oct. 19 2006,11:46

Is your name here zero is real?

Just trying to make sure I get it.



Oh, and do you realize the United States (well one of them at least ) was prophesized in the Old Testament?

Noah looked over the ark and saw

(There was no mention of Bill Clinton though)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,11:53

(There was no mention of Bill Clinton though)

Hilery said if she gets back in the White House,
She's gonna raise all the urinals to keep
Bill on his toes.
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,11:57

Have you ever looked at your hand? I mean really looked at it?
Posted by: stevestory on Oct. 19 2006,12:00

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 19 2006,17:57)
Have you ever looked at your hand? I mean really looked at it?
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Interestingly, Arden, that's nearly the name of a piece on ID by Mike Argento.

< http://www.yorkblog.com/archives/2005/09/have_you_ever_r.html >
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 19 2006,12:05

Oh my god, no, I've never really looked at my hand. It's amazing. All those lines like little elephants all in a line singing god bless america and, ... dude, what was I saying? Can I have another one of those?
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,12:13

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 19 2006,17:00)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Oct. 19 2006,17:57)
Have you ever looked at your hand? I mean really looked at it?
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Interestingly, Arden, that's nearly the name of a piece on ID by Mike Argento.

< http://www.yorkblog.com/archives/2005/09/have_you_ever_r.html >
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SEE? Dude, that proves my whole point!!

Wait. What were we talking about?
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Oct. 19 2006,12:14

a) Mike Argento is a genius.

b) Dude, like, sometimes when I look at my hand I wonder if there might be a parallel universe buried in one of the wrinkles.  When I consider that possibility I feel guilty when I wash my hands.

Hey pass that back over here...
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 19 2006,12:19

HAHAHAHAHAHA

(I don't even remember what I was laughing at, but it was really f'ing funny!;)
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,12:20

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Oct. 19 2006,17:14)
a) Mike Argento is a genius.

b) Dude, like, sometimes when I look at my hand I wonder if there might be a parallel universe buried in one of the wrinkles.  When I consider that possibility I feel guilty when I wash my hands.

Hey pass that back over here...
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Them call 'em 'fingers', but I've never seen 'em fing...

I just realized: I'm the "ow" in the word now!

And if you tell anyone... :angry:
Posted by: Chris Hyland on Oct. 19 2006,12:26



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If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
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The one with the flowers.
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Oct. 19 2006,12:28

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 19 2006,16:53)
(There was no mention of Bill Clinton though)

Hilery said if she gets back in the White House,
She's gonna raise all the urinals to keep
Bill on his toes.
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"here zero is real"?

Dude, kindly explain the meaning/significance of the name?

And what's your take on intelligent design?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,12:30

Them call 'em 'fingers', but I've never seen 'em fing...

I just realized: I'm the "ow" in the word now!


Arden, you know why my fanger smells like
lemon pie?
It's got my rang on it.

O is the difference between #### & hello.
Posted by: Chris Hyland on Oct. 19 2006,12:30

Oh sorry was that a rhetorical question?



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Arden, you know why my fanger smells like
lemon pie?
It's got my rang on it.
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Is it just me or does that sound dirty?
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 19 2006,12:34

Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:30)
Is it just me or does that sound dirty?
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Only if you're doing it right.

:D
Posted by: deadman_932 on Oct. 19 2006,12:36

Oh, man. I just thought of something: If I stop looking at my hand, will it be like that quantas mechanic stuff and it'll vanish or like, turn into a flipper or an emu or something?
I hope this stuff doesn't bamage my drain
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,12:43

Dude, kindly explain the meaning/significance of the name?

Chris, it's sorta like:

Here, in reality, O is real
Here, in life, O is a good beginning.
It's what the first story on hereoisreal.com
is about. (Love your maker from the top of your
head, top, to the soles of your feet,bottom. And
don't forget the heart, middle.)

See Mk. 12:29
Zero
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 19 2006,12:45

Selective pruning. You're only killing the ones that are thinking the bad thoughts.

Whoa! Did you see that? ... There it is again!

I've always thought that there is a huge difference between those of us that have eaten the fruit and those of us who have been too afraid... Or .. Dam! There it goes again! Hey, is that one of you? Stop it. That's mean.

So Here O is real, very stream of consciousness. Was the post random or is there a point?

I would like the one with bigger... Jeez. You guys can cut it out with that hologram of satan you keep buzzing around my head.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 19 2006,12:46

Myeh... it ain't bamagin' yer drain 'til you're < impersonatin' a fire engine > like Catherine Eddows on Gin.
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,13:08

Please give me a shot.
Please.
Oh...Oh...it is from the factory.
O.K. Sure, that is bad...well,
Oh, go ahead;
that happens for crying;

I don't want harmony; I want harmony.

Oh, mamma, mamma.
Who give it to him? Who give it to him?
Tony? Let me in the district; ...fire...factory that he was nowhere near.
It smoldered.
No, No!

There are only ten of us and
there are ten million fighting somewhere in front of you,
so get your onions up and we will
throw up the truce flag.

{...}

Oh, mamma, mamma,
please don't tear; don't rip;
that is something that shouldn't be spoke about; that is right.
Please get me up my friends;
I know what I speak of. Please, look out,
the shooting is a bit wild, and
that kind of shooting. Saved a man's life.

{...}

Oh, sir, and get the doll a roofing. Please.
You can play jacks, and girls do that
with a soft ball
and do tricks with it.
Please;
I may take all events into consideration;
no, no. And it is no;

a boy has never wept
nor dashed a thousand kim

did you hear me?

{...}

Then pull out,

I am half crazy.

They won't let me up.
They died my shoes,
open those shoes here.

Give me something;
I am so sick.
Give me some water,
the only thing that I want.

Open this up, break it
so I can touch you.

{...}

Come on, Max, open the soap duckets.
Frankie, please come here.
Open that door, Dumpey's door.
It is so much, Abe, that...with the brewery.
Come on. Hey, Jimmie!
The Chimney Sweeps.

Talk to the Sword.

Shut up, you got a big mouth!
Please come help me up, Henny.
Max come over here...

French Canadian bean soup...

let them leave me alone.
Posted by: deadman_932 on Oct. 19 2006,13:40



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French Canadian bean soup
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That was like the JabberWalking by that English guy. Now I'm hungry again.
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 19 2006,13:50

Dude, how can you think of food at a time like this? Can't you see them? They're everywhere. Yaa! Look out! gotta go.
Posted by: jujuquisp on Oct. 19 2006,13:53

There's a war going on and you idiots are acting like stoned hippies!  If the other side wins, it is your fault!
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 19 2006,13:59

Which side are we on again?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,14:03

I can live with it if you can juju.

Did you see where Mike Tyson died?

He ran into Vincent Van Goe up in heaven and said,

"You look like a prize fighter.  You sure we didn't fight?"
Posted by: carlsonjok on Oct. 19 2006,14:18

Quote (jujuquisp @ Oct. 19 2006,18:53)
There's a war going on and you idiots are acting like stoned hippies!  If the other side wins, it is your fault!
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But, I thought that if we changed our behavior the terrorists will have already won?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,14:32

Steve, I hope you don't mind.  I stole this from
your thread just to keep things together.
*****************************
Allen said in post#76:
So what? Darwin didn’t speculate on any of this, but rather “started in the middle”

The following is one of my five attempts to post:  
From Allen MacNeill's site:
< http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments >

(Posted by Sal):

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results
.Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU — August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm

My post to the above:
Sal,I like the way you think. If the numbers
don’t add up, somethin’s not right.
You’ll find lots of them that do at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

more at:

< http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal >
and
< http://scienceblogs.com/goodmat....omments >
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Allen, symmetry is balance. (zero is in the middle)
Mathematically,that's where we should all begain.
Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that  *** may know mine integrity.


O + first and last = Noah
O + beginning and end = Noah
O + end = Noah
O + IN = Noah
O + I Am = Noah
O + G D (first and last) = Intelligent Designer
O + G D (beginning and end ) = Intelligent Designer
O = one sign (that) ( Intelligent Designer + IN)  I Am  "that" I Am
O = no sign
O = nothing (truth) “The prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me”
O = zero ( Intelligent Designer + I Am + O)
O = ought
O = nought
O = gap filler “none”   “ I looked for a man to fill the gap and found “none”
O = the one fold in infinity, eternity (size, direction, and time)
O = indifference, your middle face, the middle of each of your 6 senses.
O = a reference  point for all counting (beginning)
O = 15th letter of the alphabet
O = 360 degrees
O = a circle
O =a minute, an hour, a day, a year, one revolution
O = the middle of (Intelligent Designer )
O x seven folded once says "Intelligent Designer"
"Intelligent Designer" says "Seven circles (2520) folded once. (1260) or a,z and nothing.
O = the O in "O  ". (Intelligent Designer  ) (30 pieces of silver )  Zec 11:12
O = the O in “Mt. Olive”. From where  Intelligent Designer left, and to where he’s coming back.
Olive ewe = a greenish brown female sheep. ( Eve + v = ewe)

When the deciples asked the Intelligent Designer to teach them to pray, he began his prayer with an O: "Our father..."  It has no beginning nor end.

Mathematically, "Our" = LOVE (54), which is a good start or beginning.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,14:47

More from Steves thread:
**********************
Hi all,
I have tried all day to post on UD. I failed so I've
sent it to Allen in hopes he'll post it on his site:


58. Zero // Oct 15th 2006 at 10:38 pm

My post #55 was pulled.
That’s a first. May I ask why?                                        

Zero

You’re comment got caught in the spam filter, and it ended up here when I approved it. I’m not quite sure why at the moment.–Crandaddy

Comment by Zero — October 15, 2006 @ 10:38 pm
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65. Zero // Oct 16th 2006 at 10:14 am

Zero
You’re comment got caught in the spam filter, and it ended up here (cutting room floor) when I approved it. I’m not quite sure why at the moment.–Crandaddy

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Crandaddy, now all my posts are being pulled.
Am I banned?
Zero

Your comments are being moderated. We discourage commenters from being excessively theological. Religion tends to be a sensitve topic for many people, and it strays from the general theme of this blog.–Crandaddy

Comment by Zero — October 16, 2006 @ 10:14 am
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Crandaddy, your explanation above was                        not posted until today. I tried to post three times last night and again early this Am.

I have participated on UD for about a year so I know what ID is and what it's goals are.
When I post, check the record, I try to converse with the last commenter or at least, stay on topic.
Unless I tell a joke, I am totally ignored.  Again, check the record.
In no posts have I said to anyone,"You're going at it wrong", but when I remarked several times that the best proof of ID might be symmetry and balance, there was no response.
When I said, "Life is about family and home....  No comment.
When I remarked, "Man has six senses the Intelligent Designer gave you so that you could 'see' his creation. " there was no response, even when I posted again, "I am
astonished no one asked."
Because I posted an hour before post # 1 on this thread, it appears here, that I ignored Allen.
I didn't.

Now, one of the real reason I'm posting now: (If it doesn't show here , not on the 'cutting
room floor, I will post it on Allen's sight. I'm still going to ask him if he knows man's sixth sense anyway.

Crandaddy, please explain "being excessively theological" so I can decide if I
even want to post here.
.
"Religion tends to be a sensitve topic for many people"

I know most IDers are bible believers in some way, so when I see something in creation that mirrors a hidden truth in the bible, it's hard to keep it to
myself. Henceforth, I will only call my maker the "Intelligent Designer" or IDOL ( Intelligent Designer of Life) on this site.  That is a promise.

Allen, I still don't have an invite I mentioned on post 18.

Sal, I listened to your radio interview.  Very good.
The offer a made to send you a picture of my 'Rock of all ages' still stands.

I don't feel so bad finding my posts on the Off Topic cutting room floor.
From there, I have no place to go but up.  No suggestions please.

Blessings

Zero
Posted by: deadman_932 on Oct. 19 2006,15:03



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God loves balance and that’s the reason every living thing, and fossils too, are symmetrical
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Moss isn't symmetrical, it's all clumpy and stuff, and it looks like green hair on a rock. And if God likes balance so much, how come things are always falling down, like rocks? Green hairy rocks.
Posted by: stevestory on Oct. 19 2006,15:43

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 19 2006,20:32)
Steve, I hope you don't mind.  I stole this from
your thread just to keep things together.
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Of course I don't mind. The more the merrier.

BTW Hereoisreal, just so there's no hard feelings later:

1 I don't personally think your ideas have much merit.
2 But they are different and we're all a little bored of AFDave
3 and what you get out of the deal is, UncommonlyDense censors the living sh1t out of everybody there, and here we're very liberal and permissive and you won't put a lot of work into a comment to find that some a55face has hit the 'disallow' button.
4 so in conclusion, even though most of us probably won't like your ideas, you'll get a fairer hearing here than there.
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Oct. 19 2006,16:12

I got two words for your dam dirty darwinists...

chocolate chip cookies!


Ha ha ha ha!  

Oops....Did I say two words?












here zero is real, for some reason I am not understanding what you are talking about...But that could be on account of all that cough syrup I just drank.

Oh man, these colors are awesome....
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 19 2006,16:22

Steve Thanks

There's just one thing that turns my
stomach.....2 boobs in my back.

I was inevertantly Eed the mods discussion of
what happened and who pushed the button at UD.

I don't get mad I get even.

Here are some of my posts at UD.  I'll start
on the "cutting room floor" later.

I've filed the whole thread so it can't be hid.

Zero

Oh, todays my BD & you've made my day.

:)

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The Infinite Designer of Life (IDOL) is a trinity:
God and 2 ( the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof ).
God and 2 candlesticks.
God and 2 olive branches
God and 2 witnesses
God and 2 thieves:
God and one pair (AZ and fold)
God and 2 cherubims Exd 25:22 .
God is a family. One family
Mother of all living, father of all living,
and child of all living. Rev.12:5
Paradise (pair rode AZ) ( king, ass, and foal ) Zec 9:9
A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid
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From UD:.
10. Zero // Oct 7th 2006 at 9:01 am
PaV, IMO, people “think” and machines
respond to comands.
Pardon my 2 cents worth but I see no
analogy there.
Zero
Comment by Zero — October 7, 2006 @ 9:01 am
12. PaV // Oct 7th 2006 at 7:31 pm
Zero:
PaV, IMO, people “think” and machines
respond to comands.
Pardon my 2 cents worth but I see no
analogy there.
Have you ever heard of Artificial Intelligence? Have you ever heard adherents
confidently predict that “thinking” machines are only a matter of time?
And, as for the 2 cents worth: we often see only what we want to see.
14. Zero // Oct 7th 2006 at 9:33 pm
PaV
“Have you ever heard of Artificial Intelligence?”
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Yes PaV, and there’s just 3 things I hate:
Artificial Intelligence, artificial love, and a yankee heading south with
a U-haul trailer.
Blessings
Zero
Comment by Zero — October 7, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,16:55



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There's just one thing that turns my stomach.....2 boobs in my back.

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Whoa.

Did you ever wonder what chairs would look like if our knees bent backwards?
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 19 2006,17:03



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2006,19:32  
O + first and last = Noah
O + beginning and end = Noah
O + end = Noah
O + IN = Noah
O + I Am = Noah
O + G D (first and last) = Intelligent Designer
O + G D (beginning and end ) = Intelligent Designer
O = one sign (that) ( Intelligent Designer + IN)  I Am  "that" I Am
O = no sign
O = nothing (truth) “The prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me”
O = zero ( Intelligent Designer + I Am + O)
O = ought
O = nought
O = gap filler “none”   “ I looked for a man to fill the gap and found “none”
O = the one fold in infinity, eternity (size, direction, and time)
O = indifference, your middle face, the middle of each of your 6 senses.
O = a reference  point for all counting (beginning)
O = 15th letter of the alphabet
O = 360 degrees
O = a circle
O =a minute, an hour, a day, a year, one revolution
O = the middle of (Intelligent Designer )
O x seven folded once says "Intelligent Designer"
"Intelligent Designer" says "Seven circles (2520) folded once. (1260) or a,z and nothing.
O = the O in "O  ". (Intelligent Designer  ) (30 pieces of silver )  Zec 11:12
O = the O in “Mt. Olive”. From where  Intelligent Designer left, and to where he’s coming back.
Olive ewe = a greenish brown female sheep. ( Eve + v = ewe)

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So is this what the Story of O is all about?

Suddenly it all falls into place.  ;)
Posted by: argystokes on Oct. 19 2006,17:22

And now, time for some Deep Thoughts.



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Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean ? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
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If you saw two guys named Hambone and Flippy, which one would you think liked dolphins the most? I'd say Flippy, wouldn't you? You'd be wrong, though. It's Hambone.
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Life, to me, is like a quiet forest pool, one that needs a direct hit from a big rock half-buried in the ground. You pull and you pull, but you can't get the rock out of the ground. So you give it a good kick, but you lose your balance and go skidding down the hill toward the pool. Then out comes a big Hawaiian man who was screwing his wife beside the pool because they thought it was real pretty. He tells you to get out of there, but you start faking it, like you're talking Hawaiian, and then he gets mad and chases you...
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If you're a Thanksgiving dinner, but you don't like the stuffing or the cranberry sauce or anything else, just pretend like you're eating it, but instead, put it all in your lap and form it into a big mushy ball. Then, later, when you're out back having cigars with the boys, let out a big fake cough and throw the ball to the ground. Then say, "Boy, these are good cigars!"
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I wouldn't be surprised if someday some fishermen caught a big shark and cut it open, and there inside was a whole person. Then they cut the person open, and in him is a little baby shark. And in the baby shark there isn't a person, because it would be too small. But there's a little doll or something, like a Johnny Combat little toy guy---something like that.
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Posted by: BWE on Oct. 19 2006,17:46

Hmmm. Related to Dr. Bronner?

PS who's reo?
Posted by: Ichthyic on Oct. 19 2006,19:26



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Green hairy rocks.

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I hear there are good treatments for that these days.
Posted by: Occam's Aftershave on Oct. 19 2006,19:30

ORT!

Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort! Ort!






...no real reason for saying that, it just makes my lips feel all roly-poly  :)
Posted by: mcc on Oct. 19 2006,21:45

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 19 2006,16:14)
Take six pennies and place them around the seventh  and see if they “fit”.  They "rest on the seventh."
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This is just because the hexagonal lattice arrangement is the optimal regular circle packing on a two-dimensional plane, which was proven by Gauss in 1831 for the case of only lattice packings and by Tóth in 1940 for the general planar case. As far as I can find any sign of, the general idea of the proof rests around the observation that in the hexagonal lattice packing (and no other), if you connect the centers of any three circles in contact, you get an equilateral triangle.


Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,02:10

Mcc, you are so correct.

Your post number (74) is unique.

Using a=1, b=2,c=3,etc, POINT =74 (G-D)

If you "fold" it once, you get 37 (cg)
fold =37 (There shall be one fold)

PSM 37:37 Mark the perfect man.

penny =74 (I've compiled a list of "74s"
I'll post later.

Two adj. points = the shortest line possible.
Three adj. points = smallest area possible. (1/2)
Four adj. points = smallest volumn possible.
(my axioms)

When are you first in a line?
When you're 2nd. One is not a line.

I have never known a leader to have a guide, a pathfinder a path, nor a trailblazer a trail.
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 20 2006,06:16

I'm not a fig plucker
Nor a fig plucker's son
But I'll pluck figs
Till the fig plucker comes
Posted by: Altabin on Oct. 20 2006,06:28

Quote (BWE @ Oct. 20 2006,18:16)
I'm not a fig plucker
Nor a fig plucker's son
But I'll pluck figs
Till the fig plucker comes
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Interesting...

The way I've always heard it is:

I'm not a pheasant plucker, I'm a pheasant plucker's son,
and I'll keep on plucking pheasants 'till the pheasant plucker comes.

(It's not just hard to say, it's almost impossible to type.)

I recall that there was some joky English folk-song with those words in the chorus.  Anyone remember that?

Where were we?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,08:20

My posts on Allen's site:

Zero said...
Hi Allen
In your openion, does mankind
have a 6th sense?
Zero
10/17/2006 08:37:22 PM

Allen MacNeill said...
Neurobiologists have shown that humans, along with other mammals, have quite a few more than six senses. The skin alone has at least five: heat, cold, light touch, pressure, and pain. The eyes have at least two: light intensity and color/fine discrimination. The ears and semicircular canals have another three: sound, body movement in space, and gravity, and so forth. This list doesn't include the many receptors for internal physiological processes, such as blood pressure, blood glucose concentration, etc.
10/17/2006 10:09:03 PM
Zero said...
Thanks for your reply especially
since I was off topic.
IMO, you hit the target but with
birdshot.
Specifically,I had in mind
balance.
The 3 semicircular canals detect
motion in 3 axes,just like
gyros,controling yaw, roll,
and pitch.
IMO, that's why every living
thing is symmetrical.

Zero
10/18/2006 12:46:55 AM
*********************************
Here's story #293 from my web site:

NO VERTIGO

Dr. Mark Galfo assured me that my vertigo would go away after I had seen him about having several days of dizziness.
That weekend, Joan’s sister and her husband were visiting. We all agreed to get dressed and go up to our club for the evening. When Joan and I returned to the den, they were still there and hadn’t started to dress. They said, “We decided not to go.” Joan and I sat down and there were a few moments of silence. To make conversation, Joan asked, “Honey, how is your vertigo?” I replied, “Well, I’m all dressed up and no vertigo
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 20 2006,09:07

Hey guys, remember that time someone dropped his car keys and I thought it was the phone ringing?
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 20 2006,09:08

Interesting. Have you arrived at this through pure platonic thought or aristotelian empiricism?
Posted by: thurdl01 on Oct. 20 2006,09:16

I took a swig of cough syrup a few minutes ago, so I'm not sure...does this thread look like this for everyone?
Posted by: BWE on Oct. 20 2006,09:28

I'm not sure. I keep getting lost when we get to imaginary time. Around page 160 or so?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,09:39

Hey Guys, here's another site I'm posting on.
They have a button there where you might
view all my posts in all topics.

They threw so many of my topics on the cutting
room floor, that I started posting there. (Unorthordox
religion)
See "The IDOL is a trinity"
Notice how many of my comments are ignored
there.
You can find one of my blogs there also.

< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/forumdisplay.php?f=161 >

Zero
Posted by: improvius on Oct. 20 2006,09:56

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 19 2006,22:22)
The Infinite Designer of Life (IDOL) is a trinity:
God and 2 ( the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof ).
God and 2 candlesticks.
God and 2 olive branches
God and 2 witnesses
God and 2 thieves:
God and one pair (AZ and fold)
God and 2 cherubims Exd 25:22 .
God is a family. One family
Mother of all living, father of all living,
and child of all living. Rev.12:5
Paradise (pair rode AZ) ( king, ass, and foal ) Zec 9:9
A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid
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Posted by: improvius on Oct. 20 2006,09:59

Quote (thurdl01 @ Oct. 20 2006,15:16)
I took a swig of cough syrup a few minutes ago, so I'm not sure...does this thread look like this for everyone?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,09:59

Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?
He stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog.

Zero
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 20 2006,10:09

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 20 2006,14:59)
Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?
He stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Are you here all week?
Posted by: Altabin on Oct. 20 2006,10:10

Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
Posted by: improvius on Oct. 20 2006,10:15

Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No.  He's been doing this bit for at least over a year.  Maybe this is the first he's been on AtBC, but he's been around for a while.  If it's a spoof, it's an extremely long-running one.
Posted by: Altabin on Oct. 20 2006,10:18

Quote (improvius @ Oct. 20 2006,22:15)
Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No.  He's been doing this bit for at least over a year.  Maybe this is the first he's been on AtBC, but he's been around for a while.  If it's a spoof, it's an extremely long-running one.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Has Lou FCD ever been seen in the same room as him?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,10:23

After Peter had cut off Malchus' ear, everyone
looked on the ground for it, knowing Jesus
could replace it. When an ear was found, they
showed it to Malchus who then said, "Keep looking,
mine had a pencil behind it."

Zero
Posted by: improvius on Oct. 20 2006,10:32

Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:18)
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 20 2006,22:15)
Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No.  He's been doing this bit for at least over a year.  Maybe this is the first he's been on AtBC, but he's been around for a while.  If it's a spoof, it's an extremely long-running one.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Has Lou FCD ever been seen in the same room as him?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I just did a quick search and turned up references to him going back to October 1996.  Hereoisrealisreal.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,10:33

Did you listen to the president’s speech this morning?

Bush:
“First, I want to thank you for inviting me.  Thirdly, who in
the #### shut off the teleprompter”

Zero
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 20 2006,10:40

Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,15:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Try four or five glasses. That should help.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,10:43

My wife says I have perfect vison in my az. She calls it 20/20 hindsight.

Zero
Posted by: guthrie on Oct. 20 2006,10:58

Their not even original jokes.  Go on, come up with something new and exciting, after all you are here to entertain us.
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Oct. 20 2006,10:58

"A man goes to a psychiatrist. The doctor says, "You're crazy!" The man says, "I want a second opinion!" "Okay, you're ugly too!""


Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,11:23

said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hexx without law and order.

When he## meets the law, the shxt will hit the fan."

The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read, "Helmet Law Inforcement Begins".

I saved the paper.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 20 2006,11:42

Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,15:18)
 
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 20 2006,22:15)
 
Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 20 2006,16:10)
Oh, come on, hereoisreal is just one of you guys f#cking with us.  Really.  I'm onto my third glass of rare Sicilian blueberry amaro and this still doesn't make any f#cking sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No.  He's been doing this bit for at least over a year.  Maybe this is the first he's been on AtBC, but he's been around for a while.  If it's a spoof, it's an extremely long-running one.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Has Lou FCD ever been seen in the same room as him?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Um... I might resent that.

I at least had style!
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 20 2006,11:45

Not to mention I Janie can spell, and I she makes sense...

I hope.

:D
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,11:59

A story not yet posted on my web site:
***********************************

Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.


Last week I posted the above on some discussion boards during the day. That night my wife and I went to see the play, Gypsy. During the middle, a landlord, Mr. Goldstone, was being patronized. One of the actors got down on his all-fours and Rose placed Mr. Goldstone's feet on the actor's back. (A gold stone is what the lid to the Ark is made from...one hunk of gold)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 20 2006,19:14

Pardon my bumping this thread but here is what
I picked up off of the floor:

************************************


.[off topic experiment] cutting room floor (version 1)
by scordova on August 18th, 2006 ·&#63568; 19 Comments

(Consider this thread an experiment, and not the final word. If it doesn’’t work, I’’ll go back to business as usual.)
The cutting room floor refers to the floor of the editing room used in movie making. When film editors edited a film in the early days of movie making, they would cut parts of the film out, leaving the unwanted scenes on the cutting room floor.
Some of UD’’s authors may find certain comments distracting or unhelpful to the discussion. Previously, I deleted such comments from threads I started. On the other hand, if a comment is deleted, suspicions arise whether that comment had something deeply incriminating and therefore was suppressed.
In an effort then, to let the readers know that I or other authors had nothing to hide, but simply exercised editorial judgement as to what would or would not be the most informative and useful to the readers, I’’m starting this thread as an EXPERIMENTAL repository for such comments.
That is not to say there aren’’t comments deserving outright deletion such as those containing vulgarity, or extreme insults to other participants, some violation of privacy, or extremly bone-headed remarks, etc. But some comments which don’’t violate those standards still may not quite fit with the kind of discussion the author had in mind, yet in some respects, given the time invested by the participants in composing their comments it would seem almost discourteous to dump such comments in the same category as those being outrightly deleted, especially if a lot of effort went in to the composition of the comment.
I’’m trying to get better at treating the participants here more respectfully. I don’’t want commentors to feel if they get a ““letter of rejection”” (so to speak) from me that I do not welcome their future participation. I hope participants who have their comments moved here simply consider it an editorial decision, and an indication that I still welcome their participation. In contrast, outright deletion of a comment, may indicate I thought the comment was so bad, it wasn’’t even worth moving here.
Many from the other side of the issue raise questions which those on the sideline want answered. Furthermore, controversy attracts readers to this weblog. Consensus can be rather boring, but controversy exciting. And exciting translates into more readership! Thus I want to encourage participation by first rate critical discussion here at UD (versus the brainless banter I see at rival weblogs like Pandas Thumb and PZ Pharyngula).
I invite any of my fellow authors at UD to deposit any of the scenes which they think shouldn’’t make the final cut but on the other hand should not be totally erased. Of course, if someone gets too annoying (like the kind of creatures that inhabit the comment section of Pandas Thumb and PZ Myers weblog) they can expect to be permanently shown the door……
Every musician has hit wrong notes in the course of his life. Consider this place a place where even the best participants can have their wrong notes deposited so that the best music is presented where it has the largest audience. Also, this place can be a place where people discuss whatever they want within reason.
I would hope UD will be a place the best and most well-known anti-IDers would occasionally feel comfortable making an appearance here. I certainly enjoy sparring with the best the other side has to offer. It makes for a great show.
Salvador
Filed Under: Off Topic
19 responses so far  ?

1. tinabrewer // Aug 18th 2006 at 2:25 pm
salvador: it has been my distinct impression that you consistently go out of your way in terms of courtesy toward participants, so if I were you, I would relax about ““getting better”” at this! Cool idea about the cutting room floor, though.
Comment by tinabrewer —— August 18, 2006 @ 2:25 pm

2. Carlos // Aug 18th 2006 at 3:07 pm
Does the software on this site have the capacity to ““hide”” posts? Motet, which I use for www.newcafe.org, has this ability —— also, HTML code can be put in the post which links back to previous posts. Makes it easier to manage a discussion and figure out who is talking to whom.
Still, I like the cutting room floor idea —— especially since I suspect that a lot of my own contributions are tangents!
Comment by Carlos —— August 18, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

3. scordova // Aug 18th 2006 at 3:07 pm
Thank you for the kind words, tina.
The critics have been able to give valuable editorial criticisms. I find that about 15% of what they write has been highly useful helping me refine and clarify my ideas.
By the way, I don’’t think I have ever formally extended my greetings to you after all these months. So, greetings!
I have enjoyed your posts at UD, I’’m sorry its taken so long for me to actually say hi.
regards,
Salvador
Comment by scordova —— August 18, 2006 @ 3:07 pm

4. Zero // Aug 18th 2006 at 4:12 pm
Salvador, IMO, symmetry is the best ““proof”” of a designer.
Below is part of a conversation I’’m having at ““Good Math
Bad Math””
Also check out < http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?p=1610994#post1610994 >
****************************
It was nice talking to you, Zero. I hope you draw something from this discussion. If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 16, 2006 05:32 PM
““If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.””
*******************************************************
Xanthir, there is a pattern in life. All living
things, and fossels too, are symmetrical by chance, just like the center of heaven. Also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””. Also like the creator’’s
name, ”” I Am that I Am ””
.Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 18, 2006 01:52 AM
Comment by Zero —— August 18, 2006 @ 4:12 pm

5. DaveScot // Aug 18th 2006 at 5:54 pm
I wasn’’t aware there was anything in Wordpress that allowed you to relocate a comment from one thread to another.
Comment by DaveScot —— August 18, 2006 @ 5:54 pm

6. scordova // Aug 18th 2006 at 5:59 pm
DaveScot!
Nice to see you! Well, we have the rather inelegant cut and paste method. That’’s what I intend to use.
Sal
Comment by scordova —— August 18, 2006 @ 5:59 pm

7. William Dembski // Aug 18th 2006 at 8:41 pm
DaveScot: Glad to see you again. You’’ve done inestimable service for this blog, and your insights have been missed. I’’ve upgraded the account under which you posted this comment to ““Author”” —— same as Sal. I want to see you posting here again.
The functionality of this blog is going to be upgraded in coming weeks, including a bulletin board (this should enable Sal to do efficiently what he’’s trying to do here with, as he put it, ““inelegant cut and paste””).
Comment by William Dembski —— August 18, 2006 @ 8:41 pm

8. russ // Aug 19th 2006 at 12:37 am
““DaveScot: Glad to see you again. You’’ve done inestimable service for this blog, and your insights have been missed.””
Ditto.
Comment by russ —— August 19, 2006 @ 12:37 am

9. DaveScot // Aug 19th 2006 at 1:41 am
Thanks everyone.
Sal, cut & paste ain’’t the half of it. Someone posted some comments on the wrong thread here and asked me to move them. Not only do you have to cut & paste the text of the message but also all the author information and even the timestamp. You first have to create the comment under your own name using the original text. Then, if you have editor permissions, you can change the name & timestamp to that of the original comment. And if that commenter had a URL associated with his name there’’s another cut & paste. So it’’s like three or four cut & pastes plus a bunch of other clicks. It should be possible to add a function that moves a comment from one thread to another if you do a little PHP programming. There might even be a WordPress add-on that’’ll do what you want. If I were still a working programmer I’’d be motivated to upgrade my skill set to include PHP but I’’m not so all I’’ve done is some less ambitious hacking of a few lines here & there for simpler things.
Comment by DaveScot —— August 19, 2006 @ 1:41 am

10. Zero // Aug 19th 2006 at 7:36 am
Sal, I have a rock I have named ”” Rock of Ages ””
because it has adults, babies, and all ages between.
They are all symmetrical, skin toned and held together by each other. (family) There is nothing else there.
Life is not about ID or evolution. It is about
family and home.
I would like to send you a picture to post.
If you have my E, drop a line and I’’ll send it.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 19, 2006 @ 7:36 am

11. bFast // Aug 19th 2006 at 9:05 am
Hi Sal,
Let’’s see if this thread is actually being read.
One of my pet pieves about this site is that there is no obvious way to submit new threads. I respect the general idea of restricting the site to a few ““authors””, and I don’’t want to start new threads often, but there are those times. If you had a thread similar to this where us commoners could submit a new thread suggestion, that would be great.
Anyway, I was purusing the news, and came accross this website:
< http://www.ctv.ca/servlet....SciTech >
Finding comments like this
That one gene didn’’t exist until 300 million years ago and is present only in mammals and birds, not fish or animals without backbones.
But then it didn’’t change much at all. There are only two differences in that one gene between a chimp and a chicken, Haussler said.
But there are 18 differences in that one gene between human and chimp and they all seemed to occur in the development of man, he said.
Andrew Clark, a Cornell University professor molecular biology who was not part of Haussler’’s team, said that if true, the change in genes would be fastest and most dramatic in humans and would be ““terrifically exciting.””
However, the gene changed so fast that Clark said that he has a hard time believing it unless something unusual happened in a mutation. It’’s not part of normal evolution, he said.
I think the above is perfectly self-explanitory.
Comment by bFast —— August 19, 2006 @ 9:05 am

12. scordova // Aug 19th 2006 at 9:20 am
[
moved from Dave Thomas says, ““Cordova’’s algorithm is remarkable
commentor : trll
Reason: the comment asked several questions that were already answered. I pointed out many times the software engineer or end user may not know the answer in advance of a programs run, but he may know of successful strategy to solve the problem. I deliberately chose a strategy that I could independently qualify through 5 separate means lest I write a program that had an error in it.
]
Where did I ever claim there wasn’’t smoke and mirrors involved in the gimmickery here? Fer cryin’’ out loud, my post was talking about mathematical theatrics, and I presented that program as an example of gimmickery! I even alerted the reader with these words before presenting my program, ““The following [are] computational theatrics””.
I’’ve always been reluctant to accuse people of ““lying.”” But Dave Thomas’’s point was that genetic algorithms work even for problems in which the programmer does not know the answer, but can identify a fitness function, based on the laws of nature in the real world, that a biological solution must satisfy. You respond with an example of a program in which (a) the programmer does know the answer and uses this knowledge, but attempts to hide this fact, and (b) does not actually use a genetic algorithm. So what was the point of your obfuscatory ““mathematical theatrics””? Are you accusing Dave Thomas of being deceptive by hiding a solution that he knows somewhere in his code, or of not using a genetic algorithm? Do you genuinely not recognize the difference between a solution that requires that the final answer be known and one that only requires identification of a constraint that the answer must satisfy? Or are you just trying to confuse the issue because you are not confident of your ability to rebut the actual points raised by Thomas’’s simulation?
Comment by scordova —— August 19, 2006 @ 9:20 am

13. steveh // Aug 19th 2006 at 3:13 pm
[removed from Dave Thomas says, ““Cordova’’s algorithm is remarkable
Commenter: steveh
Reason: Because it wasn’’t productive to the discussion and is replete with misrepresenations.
SH ”” Dave Thomas showed exactly how your program was a disguised version of the Gauss formula.””
:-) Just for the record: Sal didn’’t move this here, I’’ve reconstructed it as best I could
from memory. I have made one major addition (the network in which all points are connected
by a point at the origin. If I have unwitting removed any of my original misrepresentations, then I apologize.
]
SC ““Oh gee do you think he thought it was disguised by statements where I pretty much pointed out something was disguised? Such as when I said:
‘‘Rather than compute the midpoint via a simple calculation: The following [are] computational theatrics
Sheesh! ””
That wasn’’t my point. My point was that Dave Thomas pointed out how the answer was snuck in,in your example. You haven’’t shown if or how his answer was snuck in. The piece of code you
identied was a simple length calculation. How does knowing that length=sqrt(dx*dx + dy*dy) sneak in the optimum network?
SC ““A solution can be disguised in software such that it’’s not explicit. The solution can be snuck in without being explicit. That was the whole point of my software examples.””
But your GA example was not a GA, only a crude strawman version of one. Dave Thomas does not
know what the optimum solution to his problem is.
SC ““How about you replace the fitness function with the reverse of choosing LARGER solutions, and tell me if it still guides toward the desired optimal solution so easily.””
That must be a joke. If you select for large individuals, you will get a population of larger and larger networks - there is no limit to how long a network can be. Evolution would produce a population of small networks/organisms by eliminating large ones or favoring small ones.
SC ““How about you replace this:
double dx = xP[k] - xP[j];
double dy = yP[k] - yP[j];
with this:
double dx = xP[k] * xP[j];
double dy = yP[k] * yP[j];
Tell me what you think will happen. ””
I don’’t see that multiplying end coordinates together has a real world equivalent but subtracting coordinates does. Larger differences correspond to longer lengths. In an organism the length and be selected for/against indirectly without being known (eg increased cost of building/maintenance, tendency to break/spring leaks etc.)
However, if we were to change the code, it’’s pretty obvious that lines which have end points near x=0 or y=0 will be ““fitter””. So I would expect to end up with a population of lines which end near an axis, or optimally a variable point at the origin (0,0), connected to each of the six fixed points. Total cost 0.
SC ““Because I didn’’t feel like pointing out his whole program is permeated with design, and all those other details help sneak the answer in. I pointed to the highlights.””
You pointed to a simple length calculation. If there is another part of the program which sneaks in functions for contructing an optimum Steimer network, you haven’’t shown it - merely
asserted that they exist.
““He’’s being highly disingenuous if he’’s suggesting his answer is snuck in at one spot, when the fact the it is practically the whole program (minus a few areas) when executed constitutes sneaking the answer in.””
I haven’’t seen him claim that he was sneaking an anwser in at one spot. Who’’s misrepresenting whom now?
Comment by steveh —— August 19, 2006 @ 3:13 pm

14. Zero // Aug 19th 2006 at 10:16 pm
Sal, my E is on my URL (About the rock)
Here’’s more on symmetry. I really would
like to see you open a thread on it.
*********************************************
Nope, things are symmetrical because it’’s fairly convenient and easy to code for in the genetic code. Rather than having genes for describing both sides, you just specify one side and then mirror it.
You are correct, though, that there is a pattern in life. The entire universe consists of patterns - this is why we can discover the rules of the universe, because it is predictable. That, unfortunately, is your failing. Rather than look for true patterns, you simply look for what fits. This is not the way the universe works.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 18, 2006 09:27 PM
*****************************************************************************
xanthir, who desides to place the mirrors and where?
Symmetry has to do with ““one fold””, then
whatever is folded can be shaped like paper dolls,
leaves,blades of grass, hearts,ect. Even a blind person can do it.
IMO, God set the rules and made the ““patterns””:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].
Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.
Num 8:4 And this work of the candlestick [was of] beaten gold, unto the shaft thereof, unto the flowers thereof, [was] beaten work: according unto the pattern which the LORD had shewed Moses, so he made the candlestick.
Jos 22:28 Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should [so] say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say [again], Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it [is] a witness between us and you.
1Ch 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,
1Ch 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:
1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.
1Ch 28:19 All [this, said David], the LORD made me understand in writing by [his] hand upon me, [even] all the works of this pattern.
Eze 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
Hbr 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
BTW, allthough the parts came from all over the
world and everything ““fit”” without noise of hammer.
Blessings
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 19, 2006 @ 10:16 pm

15. Zero // Aug 27th 2006 at 10:04 pm
Here’’s more on symmetery. IMO, the best proof of ID.
The full thread is posted on bloglines/blog/hereoisreal
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Sorry for the late response.
““Sometimes I add, sometimes subtract, sometimes divide, and other times multiply G, O, and D to, as you say ““fit””. IMO, there are no rules.””
Thank you for admitting that. This is a great relief to me, because it means that everything you say is, unfortunately, complete nonsense. *Real* patterns do follow rules. If you mix and match things to make your data fit your expectations, you aren’’t doing science. You aren’’t using logic. You are simply making stuff up.
If there was some science, some regularity, in what you say, then I’’d have to look into it very closely. Without it, though, I can simply discard all your reasoning, because it’’s all fundamentally flawed. Nothing you find is worthwhile without a pattern behind it.
It was nice talking to you, Zero. I hope you draw something from this discussion. If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 16, 2006 05:32 PM
““If you can find messages in the bible while being consistent in your methods, I will listen. Until then, I bid you good luck, and safe journeys.””*******************************************************
Xanthir, there is a pattern in life. All living
things, and fossels too, are symmetrical by chance, just like the center of heaven. Also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””. Also like the creator’’s
name, ”” I Am that I Am ””
.Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 18, 2006 01:52 AM
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Nope, things are symmetrical because it’’s fairly convenient and easy to code for in the genetic code. Rather than having genes for describing both sides, you just specify one side and then mirror it.
You are correct, though, that there is a pattern in life. The entire universe consists of patterns - this is why we can discover the rules of the universe, because it is predictable. That, unfortunately, is your failing. Rather than look for true patterns, you simply look for what fits. This is not the way the universe works.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 18, 2006 09:27 PM
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xanthir, who desides to place the mirrors and where?
Symmetry has to do with ““one fold””, then
whatever is folded can be shaped like paper dolls,
leaves,blades of grass, hearts,ect. Even a blind person can do it.
IMO, God set the rules and made the ““patterns””:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].
Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.
Num 8:4 And this work of the candlestick [was of] beaten gold, unto the shaft thereof, unto the flowers thereof, [was] beaten work: according unto the pattern which the LORD had shewed Moses, so he made the candlestick.
Jos 22:28 Therefore said we, that it shall be, when they should [so] say to us or to our generations in time to come, that we may say [again], Behold the pattern of the altar of the LORD, which our fathers made, not for burnt offerings, nor for sacrifices; but it [is] a witness between us and you.
1Ch 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof, and of the upper chambers thereof, and of the inner parlours thereof, and of the place of the mercy seat,
1Ch 28:12 And the pattern of all that he had by the spirit, of the courts of the house of the LORD, and of all the chambers round about, of the treasuries of the house of God, and of the treasuries of the dedicated things:
1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.
1Ch 28:19 All [this, said David], the LORD made me understand in writing by [his] hand upon me, [even] all the works of this pattern.
Eze 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
Hbr 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
BTW, allthough the parts came from all over the
world, everything “fit” without noise of hammer.
Blessings
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 19, 2006 10:56 PM
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1Ki 6:7 And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe [nor] any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.
xanthir, too bad that this thread died but that that
dies, let it die.
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 26, 2006 10:15 AM
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Well, the threat didn’’t die of natural causes - you killed it. I was hoping to be able to show you something of how you are being so inconsistent, and why that was bad. Unfortunately, you don’’t seem to be able to listen. You don’’t realize what’’s wrong with being inconsistent. At the same time, you contradict yourself by talking about patterns laid down by God.
If there are patterns, then find them! Show them! Coincidences are not patterns. If you find a lot of coincidences, and they all have a pattern running through them, then you can state that you’’ve found something. But you haven’’t done that. Nothing that you say is anything more than random coincidences, with no underlying order.
Science is all about finding the order behind coincidences, about finding the patterns causing discrepancies. Theories predict consistent thing. When they’’re wrong, they’’re wrong in consistent ways, and that order that you find in the mistakes is the key to generating the new, still consistent theory.
But you aren’’t finding order. You aren’’t finding patterns. You’’re finding coincidences by any way possible.
Plus, of course, there’’s the whole ““using the Bible in English”” thing, rather than using the languages that it was actually written in.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 26, 2006 03:17 PM
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xanthir posted:
““If there are patterns, then find them! Show them! Coincidences are not patterns. If you find a lot of coincidences, and they all have a pattern running through them, then you can state that you’’ve found something.””
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Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle……………………
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims …………
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Eureka! I found it! And God sits in the middle. 100 % of all living things, plus all fossels, being symmetrical like the mercy seat, is a pretty good pattern. Try that with ““chance””.
Blessing
Zero
Posted by: Zero | August 26, 2006 06:34 PM
Comment by Zero —— August 27, 2006 @ 10:04 pm

16. Zero // Aug 28th 2006 at 9:54 am
Plus, of course, there’’s the whole ““using the Bible in English”” thing, rather than using the languages that it was actually written in.
Posted by: Xanthir | August 26, 2006 03:17 PM
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But then, ““paradise”” (pair rode Az) Zec 9:9 in Greek would have been Greek to me.
Zec 9:9 ¶¶ Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
(AZ x one fold = Word) (God x God)
Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Also:
““A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid.”” might sound funny latinized.
Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
(Hidden treasure on a level playing field)
Zero
Comment by Zero —— August 28, 2006 @ 9:54 am

17. Zero // Sep 1st 2006 at 10:11 pm
Why symmetry? (balance)
Is life by design or by chance?
IMO, symmetry is the best proof of an IDOL. (Intelligent designer of life)
Science has never found two snow flakes alike, although 100 % have symmetry.
Science has never found two grains of sand alike nor do any have, by chance, symmetry.
Every living thing is symmetrical like the mercy seat in the Holy of Holies. (center of heaven)
There is a pattern in life. All living things are symmetrical just like the center of heaven,
also like the name of the mother of all living, ““EVE””, as well as the creator’’s name, ”” I Am that I Am ““.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Chaos is natural. Order is mind made. Priorities are mind made, planed, set.
Life is about family and home
Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air
[have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.
The first thing God ““made”” was heaven, a rock in the middle, between ““nests in the air”” and ““holes in the ground””, something that doesn’’t move or change.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were]
under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
It’’s easier to form order from chaos than to create something from nothing, (See Gen. 1:2) especially if you have a pattern:
Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle……………………
Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims …………
Eureka! I found it! (Father, son, and whole sphere, it.) It is ““finished”” and God sits in the middle. 100 % of all living things, plus all fossels, being symmetrical like the mercy seat, is a pretty good pattern. Try that with ““chance””.
God between God is symetrical, also a treasure hidden in a field, leaven hidden in three measures, eleven hidden in 2112 (three measures), ““A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid ““, God and two olive trees, God and two witnesses, God and two candle sticks, God and two thieves, the chariot of Israel and the horsemen thereof, also, a king, ass, and foal:
Zec 9:9 ¶¶ Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore
God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.(AZ)
Here is a puzzel. The two easiest pieces to find are the first and last, beginning and end.
Mathematically, AZ x it = Word (God x God)
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Why symmetry? It is balance.

Isa 61:1 ¶¶ The Spirit of the Lord GOD [is] upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to [them that are] bound;
Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
While, IMO, vengeance is not a healthy motive for living, at least God gets even.
Even, so come Lord Jesus.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— September 1, 2006 @ 10:11 pm

18. Zero // Oct 10th 2006 at 12:38 am

From Allen MacNeill’’s site:
< http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments >
If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as ““valid””:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results
.Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU —— August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
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My post:
Sal,I like the way you think. If the numbers
don’’t add up, somethin’’s not right.
You’’ll find lots of them that do at:
< http://www.hereoisreal.com >
more at:
< http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal >
and
< http://scienceblogs.com/goodmat....omments >
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Symmetry is balance
Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.
Zero
Comment by Zero —— October 10, 2006 @ 12:38 am

19. Zero // Oct 15th 2006 at 9:51 pm
55. Zero // Oct 15th 2006 at 7:54 pm
SeekAndFind :
““How about the INTENT and PURPOSE of the Designer ?””
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The seventy weeks of Daniel

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

W x O x R x D = 360 x 69 weeks (seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks)
sixty nine 360s + one 360 = 70 weeks
70 x 360 = 25,200 days start to finish (Word + 360) See John 1:1
One x one week = love x G x O x D (90 % of 25,200)
Dan 9:24 ¶¶ Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end
of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Blessings
Zero

Comment by Zero —— October 15, 2006 @ 9:51 pm
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 22 2006,16:49

Sal's post from Allen's web site:

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results
.Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU — August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
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The following is pure math, like one and one equals two.
I take  liberty with "AZ", partly because I don't want you to know everything I know, and partly because I want you to discover things yourself.
AZ is not A x Z.  It is "first x last" (God between God )  See Exd 25:22


.Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5  


(seven 360s folded) x 54/2) = 1260 x 27  (iron)
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God x God x God = 47,900,160
Word x 3 x God...= 47,900,160
Iron x 2 x God ....= 47,900,160
Posted by: Occam's Aftershave on Oct. 22 2006,18:25

Hey Zero, has anyone ever told you how witty and interesting your lengthy C&P jobs are?




They haven't?




Then where in he11 did you get the idea from??!?, you brain-scrambled bandwidth-wasting knob.  :angry:
Posted by: MidnightVoice on Oct. 23 2006,02:57

Quote (stevestory @ Oct. 19 2006,20:43)
so in conclusion, even though most of us probably won't like your ideas, you'll get a fairer hearing here than there.
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And some of us have come back after some time away and have absolutely no idea what those ideas are  :D
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,03:51

Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)


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If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
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The one with the flowers.
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Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.
Posted by: improvius on Oct. 23 2006,04:14

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
 

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If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
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The one with the flowers.
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Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.
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Yeah, tell that to John Otway.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,04:33

Quote (improvius @ Oct. 23 2006,09:14)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
 
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
   

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If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
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The one with the flowers.
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Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.
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Yeah, tell that to John Otway.
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improvius, I'm kinda slow most of the time.
Who is John Otway?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,04:52

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:33)
Quote (improvius @ Oct. 23 2006,09:14)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 23 2006,09:51)
 
Quote (Chris Hyland @ Oct. 19 2006,17:26)
   

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If, on your birthday, two of your grandchildren gave you gifts, one a bouquet
of flowers and the other a lit stick of dynamite with a short fuse,
which one would you respect most?
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The one with the flowers.
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Wrong Chris, flowers can't harm you.
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Yeah, tell that to John Otway.
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improvius, I'm kinda slow most of the time.
Who is John Otway?
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Is he John Elway's brother?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,05:18

Quote (guthrie @ Oct. 20 2006,15:58)
Their not even original jokes.  Go on, come up with something new and exciting, after all you are here to entertain us.
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guthrie, would you tell me an original joke and I'll let
you know if I've heard it.
You know people say, "If you love someone, they can
do no wrong.  If you hate someone, they can do
no right."

A man had two sons. He said to one, "Go", and the son
said he would and didn't.  The father then said to
the other, "Go", and the son replied, "I will not go."
but did.  
Which did the father's will?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,07:22

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth,
and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1Ch 29:11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all.
Psa 145:11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;
Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, [art] a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

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I posted on UD months ago when someone was talking
about an automobile being an irreducibly complex system.
I said, "An automobile is not an ICS.  ICS is an automobile, a tank of gas, and a driver that knows where he's goin'.

There was no comment.

Way, truth, & life is ICS
Kingdom, power, & glory is ICS
Mind, soal, & heart is ICS
Vehical, tank of gas, & a driver is ICS
They are all the same thing:
God and a ways & means committee. Zec 9:9
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,18:38

Hi Bill78, thanks for dropping in. I don't remember what we had been talking
about. Wasn't it the mod's bit on #### and I commented about the 3 H's,
####, heaven, & home.
IMO,life is about family and home, in that order.
My nickname is Zero. People used to shorten hereoisreal to 'hero' and
I don't like that.
Some secrets I'll let you in on: Do A=1,b = 2, c = 3 etc & total the letters of a word for it's value.
78, part of your name, is one total, mathematically, for 3 x God.
It's the sum total of the first 12 numbers and will be forever.
Jesus said, "I have chosen you 12".
The second 12 = 222, 3 x Jesus and the first 12, second 12, & third 12 = 666. ( 9 x Jesus =666 )
Do a word search of 'the father' in KJV and tell me what you come up with.

Did you hear about the spider soooo big, he had a world wide web?
Mathematically WWW = Jehovah ( I AM , I AM, & I AM )
Below, you will find some of the web sites I've been posting on:

< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/f...splay.php?f=161 > Theo.

< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/blogs.php?u=2316 > my blog on theo

< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bi...=ST;f=14;t=3399 >
See topic "Zero resurrected"

< http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/20...an.php#comments >


< http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal > (News blog....no commenting)


< http://www.hereoisreal.com/ > (342 miracle stories about my life & my E address)

Zero
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Oct. 23 2006,18:45

What the f##k are you blithering about . . . . . ?

Geez.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,18:56

I said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hexx without law and order.

When he## meets the law, the shxt will hit the fan."

The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read, "Helmet Law Inforcement Begins".

I saved the paper.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
OOPS, there goes seperation of church and state.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2006,19:09

October 16, I posted on a web site:

"Symmetry is balance.

Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.

Balance:
Seventy seven fold x love x (love + anger ) = God x God x God
Mathematically the answer to both is 47,900,160."

After that, I picked up my morning newspaper, the Florida Today.
There was just one large picture centered on the front page, a balance scale.

Around 2 O'clock, I went to a thrift store to look for only one item,
a cordless phone. I discovered that they had none on the shelf. As
I turned to leave, one of the clerks was walking toward the shelf with a cordless phone.

The next morning, at 10 o'clock, I took my wife to an eye doctor.
As we were waiting in the reception room, Joan pulled two bananas
from a bag and handed me one. She ate her's but I held mine in my
hand, decideing to eat it later.
I accompanied her to the pre-exam room for awhile but when it
became too crowded, I left.
I then decided to eat my banana, and as I begain to peal it, I noticed
that a technician across from me was pealing one also. I tried to mimic
her every move. When she would take a bite, I would, hopeing she
would notice. She never did.

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Yesterday I posted what, I thought, was a long, profound statement on my thread at

When I awoke this morning, I checked for a response, any response.  There was none.
I was angry and thought of the post I had made yesterday on another site titled:

Does God Have Plans?   (I was specificly  thinking of Plan B where he was taken lightly.)
Plan A:
Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Plan B:
Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared
my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.

Mat 22:5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]
Mat 22:7 But when the king heard [thereof], he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Plan "C"

Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as
many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests

Plan "D"
Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot,
and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

That made me think about story # 47 on my site:
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OCEAN TO GAS
I went to work one morning and turned to the mechanic next to me and said, "If God wanted to, He could turn the oceans into gas and look for someone with a match." A couple of hours later I was listening to the radio when the news came on. The announcer said that a Cuban refugee had boarded an airliner, thrown gasoline on a stewardess and threatened to strike a match.
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I then walked out to my back porch to smoke.  My lighter would not work.
It was out of fluid.
The Intelligent Designer said in Revelation:
"Love me or hate me.  Make up your mind.  Just don't sit on the fence and be indifferent."  
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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Doors
I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve
two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out."

I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to
be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title:
"Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out"
Zero
Posted by: stevestory on Oct. 26 2006,05:26



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hereoisreal



Posts: 69
Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2006,11:21  
Yellow Blobs On Yellow Brick Roads

Last night I dreamed I was in a head-on automobile

accident and wound up in car heaven. Everything was

sooo beautiful. But lots of yellow. Yellow houses.

Yellow streets. yellow garbage cans, etc... You get the idea.

Among other things, I could see a lot of little yellow

car - shaped blobs moving along the golden streets.


When I ran into an angel, no pun intended, who had yellow stains on his shirt, I asked

him what the blobs were and he replied:

"Well, we get a lot of different models and makes coming up here. Some

with just minor damage, like finder benders or worn out engines. We

try to do the best we can with repairs but with the price of help and all...

The old ones and total wrecks, we just recycle."

I asked, "How do you do that?" so he continued:

"We have this special process where we grind them up,

put them in a vat, add gelatin, water, and a little yellow

gold dust trash. Then we bring it all to a boil while

stirring before pouring into a mold. Those that have

a record of speeding or hitting dogs, we pour into a

form that's shaped like a fire hydrant. They're shipped

off to dog heaven. Because they don't have wheels,

they never come back.

.

The others we use to fill the Volkswagen shaped molds.

We've thought several times about breaking that mold

but actually it works pretty good. They come out docile

and soft like new born babies. They're kinda slow so

they can't hurt anyone and they don't kill dogs.

That's the mold we're going to pour you into so

when you happen to meet up with another, you can

yell, "Oh! Hello fellow mellow yellow jello. Are you jellin'."

I woke up a total wreck. I thought to myself, " What is this

yellow sand doing in my bed?"

Ps:

I ran in to this guy the other day who had yellow, orange,

purple, and blue sploches of color on his T - shirt.

Across the front it said, " I ran into Tammy Faye."
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Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 26 2006,05:29

Thanks, Steve.  I was in the process of posting such a request in the UD thread when this crap disappeared.

I for one appreciate it.

Peace.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,06:18

Happy Gilmore

About four and a half years ago, I think it was

the day my wife Joan had her hole - in - one

at La Cita, she and I were discussing spectacular golf shots.

I said, " You may not have heard about this, but Andrew

Magee had a hole - in - one while playing a par 4

on the PGA tour this year (2001) at the Phoenix

open. A player on the green was practicing his

putting stroke when Andrew's drive ricocheted

off the back of his putter into the hole."

Then I continued, " I remember, years ago,

reading about something even stranger...a golfer on a par 3

overshot the green. His ball glanced off of a

volkswagen going by on the road, fell back onto the

green and rolled in the cup."

At the time I had read it, I imagined a specific colored

car, yellow.

That night I asked Joan what she would like to do.

She replied,

" Let's watch one of the DVDS we got when we bought our

player the other day". We had never used it.

Since I had golf on my mind, I inserted a movie titled"Happy Gilmore".

It is about an x-hockey player who gets

on the PGA tour basically because he had hit a hole - in - one

on a par 4 hole. He also used a hockey stick sometimes

as an iron or a putter.

He makes his last shot of a tournament to win by glancing

his ball, first, off of a yellow volkswagen, then through a Rube

Goldberg maze, (a fallen tower), into the hole.

At the time we owned a cocktail lounge.

Sometime later I installed another TV down the bar

which included a DVD player, away from the one I

always had on mostly for live sports.

One Sunday afternoon I was tending bar alone. I had only

one customer, a young man in his twenties.

We both were watching PGA golf and I had "Happy

Gilmore" playing on the DVD.

The young man made a comment, " I could hit that ball if

they let me use a baseball bat."

I replied, " Why not use a hockey stick like Happy?"

I glanced over to the other TV to see Happy putting

with his hockey stick.

The announcer on live TV said at that moment, and I

don't know what prompted his remark, " If you hit a golf

ball with a hockey stick, you have to hit it straight on."

I told someone at the bar the above story a few days

later, then left the bar, got in my truck and drove south

toward Mims, thinking about what I had just discussed.


As I pulled up to the red light at 46, a yellow vw turned

left in front of me.

Two weeks later, Joan and I drove to Ft. Myers to try

to locate her brother she hadn't heard from in 46 years.

After finding him and talking for a while, he

remarked,"Let me show you my old cars."

We walked around to the back and when he raised the

garage door, a yellow volkswagen appeared.

Now, when I see a yellow vw, it's special to me.

Last week, just after seeing one pass, I crossed the

street and walked into a thrift store. Just inside was a

toy model vw on a pedestal.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,09:59

Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
first 12 = 3 X God
second 12 = 3 X Jesus
12 X Jesus = 888 ( 3 infinitys turned 90 degrees.)
88 X 8 = 704 (God )

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

I = 9 (beginning) The first letter in the bible
N = 14 (last) The last letter in the bible
I + N = 23,end, I AM
3 X I AM = Jehovah

I X N (first & last ) = AZ ( 126) Alpha & omega, God between God

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

AZ X 180 (AZ + love ) = Love x G x O X D  John 1:1

Man's best friend is God turned backward.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

If you had a 1000 piece puzzle to put together, the
easyest two pieces to find are the first and last.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,10:21

This story has a ring to it:

In January, 2004, I was on my patio when I noticed my neighbor out in his backyard with a metal detector. He must have spent 3-4 hours scanning his grass.
I asked him the next day, as I leaned over our fence, what had he lost. He said that he was losing weight and had lost his gold wedding ring but didn't have any idea where or when. I then glanced to my left about 8-10 feet and spotted his ring in the grass.
Night before last, Joan's sister and husband were over and I told them the above story. The next day after we had done some shopping , we were having lunch at home when Shirley, my sis-in-law discovered one of her gold ear rings was missing. We searched the house for about an hour, then backtracked. While Bob and I went to one store, my wife and Shirley went to another.
They pulled into the yard about 5 minutes after Bob and I with the ear ring.
Joan said that the one parking spot I had used that morning was empty so she parked there. They searched through the whole store and around the parking space before finally getting back in the car. Then Joan told Shirley to get out one more time and look around the parking spot, which she did and got back in. As Joan was backing out, she spotted the ear ring in the sand
In February of 06, I was playing golf and riding with Dick Ledger in his cart when he mentioned that he was having trouble keeping his wedding ring on because he was losing weight.
The remark brought back memories of the above story from the year before so I told it to him.
When I arrived home that afternoon, my wife told me that she had spoken to
Janet White on the phone and learned that Bill, her husband, had lost his ring finger while trying to lift something heavy from his son's truck.
A few days later, Bob and Shirley came to visit again and I told them all of
the above. Just before they were about to leave, Bob discovered he had lost his wedding band. (He had been losing weight.)
After they left, my wife continued to look for the ring and asked me to help.
I didn&#915;ÇÖt and said to her, " He&#915;ÇÖll probably find it in his trunk"
Our maid, Susan came that day so my wife asked her to keep an eye out for it also. I told her the complete story up till then And then, I told her a ring joke.
I said, " Do you know why my fanger smells like limon pie? It&#915;ÇÖs got
my rang on it."
That night Shirley called. She said Bob had found his ring in the trunk.
The next time Susan came, I told her that Bob had found his ring.
She replied, " After you told me the ring joke, I went home and found
my mother in the kitchen. I asked her what she was baking and she replied,
"Limon meringue pie."

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Here's story # 283 on my web page:

THE STORY OF THE THREE BARES

There are two infinities and I am not talking about cars. There's infinity "big" and there"s infinity "small". Infinity big is composed of an infinite number of infinite smalls.

You can search in and out, up and down, east and west, as far and as long as you wish. You can even design and build tools to help you along, but they are unending. Man tries to find the small end with a microscope and the big end with a telescope. You were born with naked eyes to function and behold the world around you. That is a bare fact.

There are three time periods: the past, present and future. You cannot live in the past or future.

There are three heavenly bodies that play the greatest role in our lives. The sun, earth and moon. One is too big; one is too little; the other is just right. One is too hot; one is too cold; the other is just right.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

I was thinking about that one day as I picked up a Reader"s Digest. I clumsily opened the book near the middle and my eyes fell on some lines of humor, which I began to read. A man vacationing, I believe in a national park, went to the public bath to shower. When he tried unsuccessfully to adjust the water temperature, he shouted in disgust, "This water is too cold." Another grown-up voice hollered, "This water is too hot." Then, from a third stall, a small voice proclaimed, "This water is just right."
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,10:48

From my perspecktive, how big am I?

IMO, there are two infinities, big & small.
Infinity "big" is plus. Infinity "small" is minus

Isa 40:12 ¶ Who hath measured the waters in the hollow
of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

me.................a speck on earth
earth..............a speck in the milky way
milky way........a speck in the universe
universe..........a speck in God's pocket

From my perspective:
Anything smaller than me is small.
Anything bigger than me is big.

Zero

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I had posted the above months ago on:


< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/forumdisplay.php?f=161 >

It received no comments.

I was thinking about that one day when I glanced down to the back edge of a Reader's Digest stacked between other books in front of me.

It said, " America In Your Pocket".

I had forgotten America.
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 26 2006,15:00

Zero,

Does this number sequence mean anything in your world?

0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, 1597, 2584, 4181, 6765, 10946, 17711
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,16:12

No, but it must in yours or you would have been
waisting your time.
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 26 2006,16:21

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 26 2006,22:12)
No, but it must in yours or you would have been
your time.
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It is called a fibonacci sequence.  It is a naturally occuring sequence in things like the chambers in nautilus shells and the number of sunflower seeds.

Since you are so into numbers I thought you might find it interesting and God-related.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,17:24

No, but I have found, and you can check my writeings,
every living thing, and some that are not, like
crystals and snowflakes, are symmetrical or have
parts that are symmetrical just like the
center of heaven.

That's not by chance.

I have found an analogy between "Soloman and
all his glory" and a lilly. So Jesus knew what he
was talking about.

Also everyone knows how to turn water to wine
but how do you turn wine to water, like Gideon's
analogy of the wet and dry fleece?

How does God arm a gideon (doubter) for the
battle of Armageddon?
Do a miracle, then do another exactly backwards,
like an image or fold.

Blessings

Zero
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 26 2006,17:50

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 26 2006,23:24)
No, but I have found, and you can check my writeings,
every living thing, and some that are not, like
crystals and snowflakes, are symmetrical or have
parts that are symmetrical just like the
center of heaven.

That's not by chance.

I have found an analogy between "Soloman and
all his glory" and a lilly. So Jesus knew what he
was talking about.

Also everyone knows how to turn water to wine
but how do you turn wine to water, like Gideon's
analogy of the wet and dry fleece?

How does God arm a gideon (doubter) for the
battle of Armageddon?
Do a miracle, then do another exactly backwards,
like an image or fold.

Blessings

Zero
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I actually went to your site and read of all your coincidental god-like musings.

Why do you see symmetry as evidence of God?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,18:15

The mercy seat is symmetrical, which is the center
of heaven, center of the holy place where he will
meet the priest once a year forever.

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

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Exd 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims [of] gold, [of] beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

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Exd 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: [even] of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

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Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

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Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Zero
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 26 2006,18:18

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 27 2006,00:15)
The mercy seat is symmetrical, which is the center
of heaven, center of the holy place where he will
meet the priest once a year forever.

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

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Exd 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims [of] gold, [of] beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

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Exd 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: [even] of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

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Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

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Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Zero
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The mercy seat in I John is certainly a picture of Christ's redemption, but how do you go from that to your numerological assumptions--especially since you are using English rather than Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,18:37

God is a God of today, now.

Most of my posts have to do with the mercy seat.

God between God is the plainest, symmetry.

"Between the two cherubims"

God is a family, the first family.  They all have

the family spirit which everyone born should be

able to relate to.

Zec 9:9 talks about this family.

paradise is "pair rode AZ. (first & last)

"This day thou shalt be with me in paradise."

I've had a good day today.

I was thinking about that this morning when
I picked up my morning paper, Florida Today.

The first word in the front headline said:

Paradise
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,18:47

The Infinite Designer of Life (IDOL) is a trinity:  
Posted on October 14th 2006 at 05:45 AM - 0 Comments
The Infinite Designer of Life (IDOL) is a trinity:

God and 2 ( the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof ).
God and 2 candlesticks.
God and 2 olive branches
God and 2 witnesses
God and 2 thieves:
God and one pair (AZ and fold)
God and 2 cherubims Exd 25:22 .

God is a family. One family
Mother of all living, father of all living,
and child of all living. Rev.12:5
Paradise (pair rode AZ) ( king, ass, and foal ) Zec 9:9

A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid.

Zero

This was pasted from:

< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/forumdisplay.php?f=161 >
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 26 2006,18:50

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 27 2006,00:37)
God is a God of today, now.

...Paradise
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


which means what?  You have to provide some kind of relationship between your musings and reality if you wan to have anyone listen to you.

If God is showing you consistent connections between these random experiences and the Bible then you need to be able to demonstrate it non-subjectively.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,18:51

The Prodigal Son  
Posted on August 21st 2006 at 01:01 AM - 0 Comments

When you open your hymnal Sunday morning,
do you sing, "This is my father's world" or
" This world is not my home, I'm just passing
through"?

Mar 8:22 And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.

Mar 8:23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.

Mar 8:24 And he looked up, and said, "I see men as trees, walking."

Mar 8:25 After that he put [his] hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

Jesus knew what the man saw the first
time. He was looking at men through God's
eyes. I think, if you looked at men through God's eyes, you would see men
as trees walking. They're lookin' for a better place. They never
put down roots. Trees, with roots put down deep, don't walk. They grow.
Did you ever see a healthy tree walking?

The tree of life, she has deep roots:
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.
Home is where the heart is. Home is where your roots are.

IMO,there are 3 places: heaven, ####, and home.

The story of the prodigal son is about a man who left home, went to two places, heaven and ####, then jerked himself up by the boot straps and came back home.

Heaven is where there's all play and no work.
#### is where there is all work and no pay.
Home is where there's work, play, love, hate, joy, sadness, sowing,
reaping, parents, children, and every thing between.

Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:
Luk 15:12 And the younger of them said to [his] father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth [to me]. And he divided unto them [his] living.
Luk 15:13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
Luk 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
Luk 15:15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
Luk 15:16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
Luk 15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
Luk 15:18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
Luk 15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
Luk 15:20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
Luk 15:21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
Luk 15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put [it] on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on [his] feet:
Luk 15:23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill [it]; and let us eat, and be merry:
Luk 15:24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Luk 15:25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.
Luk 15:26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.
Luk 15:27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.
Luk 15:28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
Luk 15:29 And he answering said to [his] father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
Luk 15:30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
Luk 15:31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
Luk 15:32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 26 2006,18:54

The Golf Ball

by Tom Hemingway

It's monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at

La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend

Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more

talking than playing.

We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which

has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course

drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only".


Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind.

I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what

a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the

early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister.


The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped

the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony.

Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho."


Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters."


With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue.


On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking

for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out

of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found.


When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old

ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ".


Neither Denis or I had been near that club in over 40 years.


ps:

Saterday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because

I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page.

I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife

called me to dinner.


While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer on Golf

Central said that three golfers who had never had hole-in-ones

accomplished the feat together. Two on one hole and the other on

the next par 3.
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Oct. 27 2006,02:21

Quote (ScaryFacts @ Oct. 26 2006,23:50)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 27 2006,00:37)
God is a God of today, now.

...Paradise
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


which means what?  You have to provide some kind of relationship between your musings and reality if you wan to have anyone listen to you.

If God is showing you consistent connections between these random experiences and the Bible then you need to be able to demonstrate it non-subjectively.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Dude, you're talking with a lunatic.

Why waste your time?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,04:14

ScaryFacts, "non-subjectively"

I don't even know what it means and I can't find
it in the dictionary.  It should be right next to
"non-support".
Have you really,really looked at your hands?
It's really a scarey fact.  The plan of salvation
is to treat everyone like they "might" be Jesus.

"Lord, we didn't even know you."

Blessings

Zero

ps I sent you an E.  I liked your, "We've got to..."
Posted by: Jim_Wynne on Oct. 27 2006,08:24

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 26 2006,23:54)
The Golf Ball

by Tom Hemingway

It's monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at

La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend

Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more

talking than playing.

We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which

has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course

drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only".


Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind.

I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what

a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the

early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister.


The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped

the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony.

Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho."


Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters."


With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue.


On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking

for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out

of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found.


When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old

ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ".


Neither Denis or I had been near that club in over 40 years.


ps:

Saterday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because

I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page.

I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife

called me to dinner.


While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer on Golf

Central said that three golfers who had never had hole-in-ones

accomplished the feat together. Two on one hole and the other on

the next par 3.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


This sounds something like Jungian synchronicity. Do you like Sting? My sister has a yellow golf ball, if you do. I once went hunting and shot at two rabbits. Afterwards, I discovered that there was a hole in one. And there was a golf ball in the trunk of my car, which was also yellow.
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 27 2006,08:37

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 27 2006,10:14)
ScaryFacts, "non-subjectively"

I don't even know what it means and I can't find
it in the dictionary.  It should be right next to
"non-support".
Have you really,really looked at your hands?
It's really a scarey fact.  The plan of salvation
is to treat everyone like they "might" be Jesus.

"Lord, we didn't even know you."

Blessings

Zero

ps I sent you an E.  I liked your, "We've got to..."
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"non-subjective" i.e.: obviously, verifiably true from everyone's perspective.

Many of your observations simply don't make sense to the rational mind.

I once heard a woman proclaim she was healed of cancer during a church service.  She claimed when she went to her doctor he could find no evidence of her breast cancer she had only a week before.

At the time I was trying to verify supernatural experiences so I approached her to see if I could get a copy of her medical records showing cancer then no cancer.

But she didn't have any medical record to show she had cancer.  She claimed she found a lump she just "knew" was cancer but after prayer she went to her Doc and he couldn't find any.

Did she have cancer?  Maybe.  She certainly believed she did.  Will anyone ever know?  Nope.

About sending a message for you to UD...it's not the kind of thing I do for a number of reasons.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,09:04

That's quite alright.  Thanks anyway.
I'll just post it here and hope he gets the message.

You have a good day Kevin.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,09:23

An open letter to Dr. Dembski:

888888888888888888888888888888888888


Dear Dr. Dembski,

Please post this in Sal's waistbasket: "Off Topic" (The cutting room floor) where some of my posts now reside.

Sal posted on Allen's site that the number one proof of science is math.

I posted on your site that, IMO, symmetry would be the easiest way to prove ID. I was ignored.
To prove symmetry, science has to measure or at least look and that doesn't require a telescope or microscope.  BTW, everything in the designer's house is measured.  The porch outside is not.

I stated that I believe in an IDOL (intelligent designer of life)  I was ignored.

I agreed with Sal that math is the mother of science.  I was ignored, especially by Sal, even though I addressed him personally.

The IDOL said, this world will get one sign.
The IDOL said, this world will get no sign.

Mathematically, the word "sign" = God (oops, I know I shouldn't say that word, I was banned for saying it excessively) + I AM (beginning & end, first & last). A & Z (alpha & omega)

The reason every living thing is symmetrical is because the center of heaven is. (God between God)
Another reason even non-living things are symmetrical, like snowflakes and crystals, is because his name is symmetrical, I AM THAT I AM.

And "THAT' mathematically equals "SIGN" (God + I AM)

"THAT" is the reason there is a "SIGN" in the middle of DESIGNER and
"THAT" is why there is a zero in the middle GOD. OOPs, I said it again.
"THAT" is why infinity folded ONCE = zero, a starting point.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
BTW, one ICS is the family of the designer, an AZ, king, and foal.  Zec 9:9
They are 3 adjacent points, sooo close together that not even air can get through.Job 41:16

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.

De  sign  er:

De is the beginning (I)
ER is the end I AM (I x N)
Take out the "sign" and you have "DEER" and nothing runs like a deer.
I had stated , when posters were discussing ICS, that an automobile was not an ICS.  An irreducibly complex system is a car, a full tank of gas, and an intelligent driver who knows where he's goin':
God and a ways & means committee. (kingdom, power, & glory)

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,10:44

The Nitty Gritty

Hey Son, where you goin'
Across the sands of time?
No footprints to follow,
No feet seen behind.

Can you see where you're goin?
Do you wonder where you've been?
Are you in a place called heaven
Or is #### around each bend?

You've got to learn to tale it easy
And to rest awhile each day.
Stop and think about tomorrow.
Set some signs along the way.

For life is what you make it.
Don't let others steer you wrong.
Love and laugh, live and take it.
Drown your tears in a song.
Take a little bit of heaven.
Raise a little bit of ####.
You've got to live to learn the difference
Or your song will never sail.

Son, don't ever build a mountain
You cannot climb alone.
Set the beat and face the music
If no others sing along.

If you want to build a highway
For folks to walk upon,
Make sure you make it two-way
And travel with a song.

For who will want to follow
A fellow to the end,
If they don't know where he's goin'
And they don't know where he's been.

See, the world will not remember
Even signs stuck in the sand.
Don't be preachin' without teachin'
Don;t play God, just be a man.

If the world will not accept you
And you've given all you can,
Call for help when help is needed
And I'll meet you in the sand.

So kiss the Son, you sons of leaven.
Bow your knee, you kings of sin.
I'll not slay my son for heaven.
I'll not tell him where I've been.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,10:57

Here O Is Real

O + first and last = Noah
O + beginning and end = Noah
O + end = Noah
O + IN = Noah
O + I Am = Noah
O + G D (first and last) = God
O + G D (beginning and end ) = God
O = one sign (that) (God + IN)  I Am  "that" I Am
O = no sign
O = nothing (truth) “The prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me”
O = zero (God + I Am + O)
O = ought
O = nought
O = gap filler “none”   “ I looked for a man to fill the gap and found “none”
O = the one fold in infinity, eternity (size, direction, and time)
O = indifference, your middle face, the middle of each of your 6 senses.
O = a reference  point for all counting (beginning)
O = 15th letter of the alphabet
O = 360 degrees
O = a circle
O =a minute, an hour, a day, a year, one revolution
O = the middle of God ( seven 360's folded) 1260
O = the O in "O God ".  (30 pieces of silver ) (good ) Zec 11:12
O = the O in “Mt. Olive”.  Where Jesus left from and where he’s coming back.
Olive ewe = a greenish brown female sheep. ( Eve + v = ewe)
Eve x 22 = God
Eve + 22 = God
Eve + first and last = heaven
God = 10 % of heaven seven fold

O is the difference between #### and hello.


When the scribes were listening to Jesus, one of them asked him for direction.  “Which commandment should we keep first?” In other words, “Give us some direction.”

Mar 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?  

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:  

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.
 
Jesus was quoting Deu 6:4

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:  

Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

The following is the first story on my web page at hereoisreal.com:


MSH

Once, when I was just beginning to believe there was a God that interacted, cared, or (at least) even realized that I existed, I was talking with my wife. She said, "Don’t you ever listen to God?" I said, "What are you talking about . . Listen to God? I say my prayers." She said, "Do you hear God?" and I replied, "No." She said, "Well, when you get through praying, just listen." So I promised to do that. That night I knelt down by my bed and, after saying a few prayers (the general prayers I usually said), I added, "Lord, I’’m through, now it’’s your turn!" and I waited. I really didn’’t expect to hear any voices, and I didn’t, but a verse of scripture came to my mind. I don’’t know if I had read it in the immediate time before, or if God or my subconscious said, "and thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul and mind." I said, "Lord, did I say that, or did you? Am I talking to myself, or can you communicate with me?" I thought, "Lord, I don't understand." Then, something told me to turn it backwards, and I said, "Okay, I've searched for answers everywhere on everything else, do you mean for me to turn that verse backwards? I don't understand, Thou shall love the Lord with all thy mind, soul and heart." Mind, soul and heart were the three things that impressed me there and I said, "Lord, I don't understand. Is that a message? Could that possibly be a message?" I said, "H S M . . . heart, soul and mind, M S H, . . . mind, soul and heart, S, . . . MeS . . . Mes H, . . . Message, that's message!" I said. That sort of startled me, I asked God, "Was that a message?" and then, phonetically, MSH said "message."

I now see a clearer message in what God was saying to me:

“Love me from the top of your head to the soles of your feet, and everything
between.”

O is a good reference point.
O is a good starting point.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 27 2006,11:02

Janie is ALWAYS down with the Big O.

Just so y'know.
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 27 2006,11:30

Quote (Lou FCD @ Oct. 27 2006,17:02)
Janie is ALWAYS down with the Big O.

Just so y'know.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Her O is real
Posted by: Richardthughes on Oct. 27 2006,12:01



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A cd on a hil (child) can knot. Be hid.
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Very clever, if you spell 'hill' as 'hil', and disregard grammar.

???
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 27 2006,12:19

J is the first letter in Janie
Janie has 5 fingers on each hand
J+5=O
There is no O in Janie Belle McKnight
There is no God because there is no O
Janie likes the Big O
She's down with that
She goes down 4 that
D is the 4th letter
J+O+D = JOD
Janie is JOD.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,13:41

Quote (Jim_Wynne @ Oct. 27 2006,13:24)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 26 2006,23:54)
The Golf Ball

by Tom Hemingway

It's monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at

La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend

Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more

talking than playing.

We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which

has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course

drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only".


Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind.

I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what

a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the

early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister.


The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped

the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony.

Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho."


Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters."


With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue.


On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking

for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out

of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found.


When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old

ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ".


Neither Denis or I had been near that club in over 40 years.


ps:

Saterday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because

I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page.

I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife

called me to dinner.


While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer on Golf

Central said that three golfers who had never had hole-in-ones

accomplished the feat together. Two on one hole and the other on

the next par 3.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


This sounds something like Jungian synchronicity. Do you like Sting? My sister has a yellow golf ball, if you do. I once went hunting and shot at two rabbits. Afterwards, I discovered that there was a hole in one. And there was a golf ball in the trunk of my car, which was also yellow.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Here is story # 229 on my web site:

POTTERY PIECES
How do I know there is a God?  I sometimes reply when asked, “Well, it’s sort of like if I saw an old piece of broken pottery dish in the trunk of my car next to the jack and didn’t throw it away, then drive halfway across the country, have a flat tire, walk to the shoulder of the road for a rock to set my jack on, and when I pick it up, find a matching piece of pottery lying beneath it. Then I know there is a God.  I saw a similar scenario on ‘Back Track’ with Jody Foster in December 1992.  It had nothing to do with the plot of the story, but it matched the one I had been telling.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,14:06

Here's story # 283 on my web page:

THE STORY OF THE THREE BARES
There are two infinities and I am not talking about cars. There’s infinity ‘big’ and there’s infinity ‘small’. Infinity big is composed of an infinite number of infinite smalls.
You can search in and out, up and down, east and west, as far and as long as you wish. You can even design and build tools to help you along, but they are unending. Man tries to find the small end with a microscope and the big end with a telescope. You were born with naked eyes to function and behold the world around you. That is a bare fact.
There are three time periods: the past, present and future. You cannot live in the past or future.
There are three heavenly bodies that play the greatest role in our lives. The sun, earth and moon. One is too big; one is too little; the other is just right. One is too hot; one is too cold; the other is just right.
I was thinking about that one day as I picked up a Reader’s Digest. I clumsily opened the book near the middle and my eyes fell on some lines of humor, which I began to read. A man vacationing, I believe in a national park, went to the public bath to shower. When he tried unsuccessfully to adjust the water temperature, he shouted in disgust, “This water is too cold.” Another grown-up voice hollered, “This water is too hot.” Then, from a third stall, a small voice proclaimed, “This water is just right.”
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 27 2006,14:45

Great news: God's wife is pregnant!

Who’s gonna have the baby shower?

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.


Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

OOPS!  There goes separation of church and state.

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (She's a stay-at-home mom.)

She said, "If I come back, I'm comin' as a man. My husband rests every seventh day. He sits on his AZ, but woman's work is never done."

Jehovah said, "Let us make man in our image."

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

IMO Jesus said, " I and my fat her (pregnant wife) are one, one family, in fact the first family.

It's not over till the fat lady (pregnant wife) sings.

The intelligent designer, her husband, said in John 16:21:

" A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world."

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an AZ, and upon a colt the foal of an AZ. (A chip off the Ol block.)

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Life is about family and home in that order.

Zero


Eve asked Adam, " Honey, do you love me?"
He said, " You know I do. You're the only women in the world for me."
She replied," Let me count your ribs."
Posted by: Ichthyic on Oct. 27 2006,21:16

I do wonder why Stevestory invited "0" back for another spin at the wheel of insanity.

did he forget 0 did the same thing here about a year ago?

I also wonder why you all find folks that have obviously gone completely off the deep end amusing.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2006,00:48

Check out the total of the three 12s of numbers on

a roulette table.

Jesus said, "I have chosen u 12 and one of u

is a devil."

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 28 2006,01:14

Quote (Ichthyic @ Oct. 28 2006,02:16)
I do wonder why Stevestory invited "0" back for another spin at the wheel of insanity.

did he forget 0 did the same thing here about a year ago?

I also wonder why you all find folks that have obviously gone completely off the deep end amusing.
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Oh, Zero is well off his nut, I agree.

Perhaps Steve Story has partially < answered your question with this comment > over on the UD thread.

As for the fascination, I'm not sure.  Maybe it has to do with rubbernecking.  You know how drivers break their necks to look at a car accident as they pass by?  Well, maybe we've all been rubbernecking at the disasters of Ghost of Idiocy and FarceDave for so long that we've just become annoyed with them, and need a new wreck at which to gawk.

Zero is a wreck, but at least he's a fresh wreck.

(I've only been poking around here for about a year, so I don't really remember his first go round.)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2006,01:59

I dreamed I was in a head-on automobile
accident last night.  Woke up a total wreck.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2006,05:50

I modified this from my first post at 10:50

Help!  I need a messinger.  I need to needle a thread.

I need to dress up my home here.

I promise to autograph one of the few copies of my 1991 book,

Miracles In My life, the only one I've

written, to the first person who copies and pastes this post

on UD, under "Off Topic, the cutting room floor".

But you can read it free now, plus other stories, at:

  < http://www.hereoisreal.com/ >

and I'm not selling T-shirts.

Steve, there are not a lot of numbers in this and it

does pertain to UD, so would you please cut

and paste to your thread too.  And thanks again

for being so patent with me when we were

trying to start my thread with a proper title.

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(An open letter to Dr. Dembski:)

Dear Dr. Dembski,

Please post this in Sal's waistbasket: "Off Topic" (The cutting room floor) where some of my posts now reside.

Sal posted on Allen's site that the number one proof of science is math.

I posted on your site that, IMO, symmetry would be the easiest way to prove ID. I was ignored.
To prove symmetry, science has to measure or at least look, and that doesn't require a telescope or microscope. BTW, everything in the designer's house is measured. The porch outside is not.

I stated that I believe in an IDOL (intelligent designer of life) I was ignored.

I agreed with Sal that math is the mother of science. I was ignored, especially by Sal, even though I addressed him personally.

The IDOL said this world would get one sign.
The IDOL said this world would get no sign.

Mathematically, the word "sign" = God (oops, I know I shouldn't say that word, I was
banned for saying it excessively) + I AM (beginning & end, first & last). A & Z (alpha & omega)
I use the simplest code possible to give words a numerical value.  A = 1, B = 2, Z = 26. etc.

The reason every living thing is symmetrical is because
the center of heaven is. (God between God)  Exd 25:22

Another reason even non-living things are symmetrical,
like snowflakes and crystals, is because his name is symmetrical,
                           I AM THAT I AM.

And "THAT' mathematically equals "SIGN" (God + I AM) (49)

"THAT" is the reason there is a "SIGN" in the middle of DESIGNER and
"THAT" is why there is a zero in the middle of GOD. OOPs, I said it again.
"THAT" is why infinity folded ONCE = zero, a starting point.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also
I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
BTW, one ICS is the family of the designer, an AZ, king, and foal. Zec 9:9
They are 3 adjacent points, sooo close together that not even air can get through. Job 41:16

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust
of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

Job 31:6 Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.

I is the beginning of the bible.
N is the end of the bible (I + E)
I x N = AZ (126)
I + N = W, IN, I AM, END   (WWW= Jehovah)

De sign er:

De is the beginning (I), I = 9
sign (49) = that   ( God,26 + IN, 23)
ER is the end I AM (23)
Take out the "sign" and you have "DEER" and nothing runs like a deer.
I had stated , when posters were discussing ICS, that an automobile
was not an ICS. An irreducibly complex system is a car, a full tank
of gas, and an intelligent driver who knows where he's goin':
2Ki 2:12 And Elisha saw [it], and he cried, My father, my father,  
the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more:
and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
AZ x it = love x G x o x d (22,680)  John 1:1
(God and a ways & means committee..... kingdom, power, & glory)

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Life is not about research.  It's about family and home, in that order.  Take your
kids fishin'.

Zero
888888888888888888888888888888888888888

The  frustrated  monk at his sewing machine exclaimed, “You  know, new habits are
hard to make.”

Niels Bohr and Albert Einsten were taking a walk in the woods, vigorously debating the philosophical underpinnings of quantum theory, when a gigantic bear suddenly burst out of the underbrush and raced toward them. Niels immediately whipped out his fine running shoes and began lacing them up.

Einstein, furrowing his brow at Bohr, said: "Niels, there's no way you can outrun that bear."
"That's true," Bohr calmly replied, "but I don't need to outrun the bear. I only need to outrun you."

I ran in to this guy the other day who had yellow, orange,
purple, and blue splotches of color on his T - shirt.
Across the front it said,  "I ran into Tammy Faye."
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 28 2006,09:29

Quote (Ichthyic @ Oct. 28 2006,03:16)
I do wonder why Stevestory invited "0" back for another spin at the wheel of insanity.

did he forget 0 did the same thing here about a year ago?

I also wonder why you all find folks that have obviously gone completely off the deep end amusing.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Zero's musings have roughly the sanity level of AFDave's, so I owe him just as much attention.
Posted by: Ichthyic on Oct. 28 2006,12:10

OK, so then, if both AFdumbass and 0 present equivalent levels of logic in their missives, do try and show me an argument to any of 0's stream of consciousness ramblings.

how do you argue with an insane poet?
Posted by: stevestory on Oct. 28 2006,12:21

Quote (Ichthyic @ Oct. 28 2006,03:16)
I do wonder why Stevestory invited "0" back for another spin at the wheel of insanity.

did he forget 0 did the same thing here about a year ago?

I also wonder why you all find folks that have obviously gone completely off the deep end amusing.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I don't remember the guy from a year ago. As to your general question, when you read a post by AFDave or Salvador, it's the intellectual equivalent of watching someone jump off a roof because he thinks he can fly. It's gruesome, but sometimes fascinating.
Posted by: Ichthyic on Oct. 28 2006,14:31

I just decry the trend towards turning ATBC into a theatre of the macabre.

I'm obviously in the minority, however.
Posted by: ScaryFacts on Oct. 28 2006,14:39

Quote (Ichthyic @ Oct. 28 2006,20:31)
I just decry the trend towards turning ATBC into a theatre of the macabre.

I'm obviously in the minority, however.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You have far more seniority than I so please understand I say the following with due humility...

I have always understood the best and most active forums are a combination of fact, opinon and humor.  If a thread is slightly off-topic or "just for fun" it adds to rather than detracts from the forum.

My 1/50th of a dollar.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Oct. 28 2006,16:04

Myeh, Lenny's right, ID is dead and we're all just bored while we wait for the next search/replace job.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2006,18:51

Saving the best for last:

Everyone knows how to turn water into wine.

You mash grapes and let them ferment.

Does anyone know how to turn wine into water?

You take the p out of it.

wine - 16 = water
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2006,23:14

Does anyone know how to turn heaven into a pit
of he##?

Add a little p to it.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 29 2006,01:23

The BIg Picture

Most everyone is asking, "What is life all about?  Is there a God. If Jesus was God,
why did he go to the cross?  If we are made like our creater, do we have infinite
minds, and if so, why.
Does he have plans.  Does he have purpose.  Are there better or worse places
than this little round circle we were born on.  Is life a play or novel written like,
"Once upon a time..." and ending with, "and they all lived happily ever after."
How long is the play and will there be an intermisson between acts?  Who's
the writer, director, music composer, set designer, etc, and does every one that
helps, get mentioned in the credits at the end?
After the good, the bad, the ups and downs, tears of sadness, tears of joy, the
beauty, the ugly, hot and cold, love and hate, most are living with the scars but glad to be alive.
Prepairing a list of questions, if they ever see him, some think they are loaded for bear.  Who, what, where, how, when, and why?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city
to finish the transgression, and to make an
end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity,
and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to
anoint the most Holy.

Sins are not "paid for".  They are forgiven.
Those forgiven most will love most.
Have you ever heard the story of the prodigal son?
He went to three places, heaven, hello, and then back home.
Life is about family and home.  In that order.
Home is where the heart is.
Who ever heard of a seventy act play?

                            Life's a trip


I said to a tenent of mine one day, "Life is a trip. It's like the temple
in Ezekiel where everything inside is
measured.  If you come in through the north gate,
you have to leave through the south gate.

If you enter through the south door, you must depart through the north door.  
Only the Prince, the Messiah, comes and goes through the east (middle) gate."
I got in my truck, pulled out onto US 1, and wound up behind another truck.
I then glanced at a bumper sticker which said, " Get in, sit down, shut up, and hold on."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 29 2006,15:34

No sweat

Life, contrary to what some have said, is not a race to see who is first.  In fact, it's not even a race.  Jesus walked his whole life except for two short donkey rides, but he finished
If you have decided to compete for the prize, it might be wise to prepair a congratulatory speech to all those who might get there before you. It's called " good sportsmanship" and "losing graciously". IMO, there ought to be special classes in all school levels,from grade school to college, to teach this.
When you've had a long record of success, been given awards,  are worshiped by your admirers,
and have had plenty of time to think about, "What if someone ever beats me?", don't say to the kids
watching, "We really are a better team than them.  They just got lucky."

They say the smart money was on Golieth, but by
chance, David got lucky.


 Eze 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge
. Eze 44:17 And it shall come to pass, [that] when they enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner court, and within.
Eze 44:18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird [themselves] with any thing that causeth sweat.
Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 30 2006,01:49

Pasted from:

< http://www.theologyweb.com/campus....88Today > , 12:37

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Quote: Originally posted by bill78

"Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
" > > >

Is this quote an out-of-this-world prediction, hereoisreal?

How's your wife doing, with that eye appointment thing

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The word "GOD" phonetically can be read as:

Seven circles folded. (once)

Seven 360s over 2 (2,520 divided by two)

Beginning,G

End, D

and nothing (0) in between.

The prince of this world (Messiah) cometh and has "nothing" in me.
Rev. 12:5

Thanks for asking about my wife. Things are looking up.

She says I have perfect eyes in my AZ. She calls it 20/20

hind sight. Zec. 9:9

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 30 2006,14:17

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2006,21:34)
No sweat

Life, contrary to what some have said, is not a race to see who is first.  In fact, it's not even a race.  Jesus walked his whole life except for two short donkey rides, but he finished
If you have decided to compete for the prize, it might be wise to prepair a congratulatory speech to all those who might get there before you. It's called " good sportsmanship" and "losing graciously". IMO, there ought to be special classes in all school levels,from grade school to college, to teach this.
When you've had a long record of success, been given awards,  are worshiped by your admirers,
and have had plenty of time to think about, "What if someone ever beats me?", don't say to the kids
watching, "We really are a better team than them.  They just got lucky."

They say the smart money was on Golieth, but by
chance, David got lucky.


 Eze 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge
. Eze 44:17 And it shall come to pass, [that] when they enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner court, and within.
Eze 44:18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird [themselves] with any thing that causeth sweat.
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Today, while waiting for my wife in the Target
parking lot, I was thinking about yesterday's
post above.  I said, "God, I've got to slow down
and live what I preach, take time to smell the roses."
Then across from me, a car pulled in to park.
There was just one word on the license plate:

                      "Pooky1"

Just before going to Target, we had been to lunch
at the Olive Garden, where I had stopped in the
foyer as we were leaving,to smell the artificial
flowers as a joke.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 31 2006,00:19

Dear Dr Adams,
I live in Florida but have a summer
home in NC near Burnsville.

Get help when the loads too heavy.

Zero


< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi? >
s=454258a809d709dd;act=ST;f=14;t=3399;st=90

< http://www.bloglines.com/blog/hereoisreal >

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >


Here's story # 283 on my web page:

THE STORY OF THE THREE BARES
There are two infinities and I am not talking about cars. There’s infinity ‘big’ and there’s infinity ‘small’. Infinity big is composed of an infinite number of infinite smalls.
You can search in and out, up and down, east and west, as far and as long as you wish. You can even design and build tools to help you along, but they are unending. Man tries to find the small end with a microscope and the big end with a telescope. You were born with naked eyes to function and behold the world around you. That is a bare fact.
There are three time periods: the past, present and future. You cannot live in the past or future.
There are three heavenly bodies that play the greatest role in our lives. The sun, earth and moon. One is too big; one is too little; the other is just right. One is too hot; one is too cold; the other is just right.
I was thinking about that one day as I picked up a Reader’s Digest. I clumsily opened the book near the middle and my eyes fell on some lines of humor, which I began to read. A man vacationing, I believe in a national park, went to the public bath to shower. When he tried unsuccessfully to adjust the water temperature, he shouted in disgust, “This water is too cold.” Another grown-up voice hollered, “This water is too hot.” Then, from a third stall, a small voice proclaimed, “This water is just right.”
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 31 2006,01:09

God's 10 %
Jesus's reward for healing 10 lepers was one "Thank you"  10 %
Jesus said, " I have chosen you 12." (one is a devil )
U 12 = 3 x God (2112)
10 % of  1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7 x 8 x 9 x 10 x 11 x 12 = God x God x God  (704 x 54 x 1260)  
"Word" x 3 AZ = G x O x D x Love  ( 22,680 )  John 1:1  Zec 9:9
U 12 x 22,680 =  47,900,160

Do the math
A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, etc

Zero
Posted by: Ichthyic on Oct. 31 2006,01:29



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naw, i don't like your dance.  can i do the hustle instead?

I see that mental institutions now allow patients full internet access.

must be fun for you.

you do know you're completely insane, right?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 31 2006,01:54

The writing on the wall.

Think of GOD as a pencil:

There's a createing end,

an erasing end,

and the middle "that"

holds them together.

One GOD, three parts:

G, O, & D  (The beginning,

end, and everything between )

I AM  THAT  I AM

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Zero
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hereoisreal



Posts: 115
Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,05:01  
Luk 13:4  Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
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Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2006,22:37)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 29 2006,09:52)
   
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2006,09:38)
And what are the "chances" that you have 2
eyes to see them?

Zero
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If you want depth perception and redundancy, quite likely.
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Richard, I wonder what chance, chance has of
recognizing a need for focus or redundancy?

Especially something external to itself.

Just a thought.

Zero
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your idocy is this:

you think that chance cannot recognise the "need for focus or redundancy". That's but a straw man.

rephrase your question thusly:

"does redundancy or having eyes that can focus increase or decrease the likelyhood of the thing in question surviving to reproduce".

Of course, 100 eyes may take resources that the creature needs to survive and others spending less energy on that item may survive, but that's likely way over your ability to comprehend - there is no benefit to a mutation if the enviroment does not favour that mutation.

Now just go away and read your bible.
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But a one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.

Why does he need two to survive?
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Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 31 2006,08:35)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Oct. 30 2006,08:34)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2006,22:37)
 
Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 29 2006,09:52)
   
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2006,09:38)
And what are the "chances" that you have 2
eyes to see them?

Zero
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If you want depth perception and redundancy, quite likely.
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Richard, I wonder what chance, chance has of
recognizing a need for focus or redundancy?

Especially something external to itself.

Just a thought.

Zero
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your idocy is this:

you think that chance cannot recognise the "need for focus or redundancy". That's but a straw man.

rephrase your question thusly:

"does redundancy or having eyes that can focus increase or decrease the likelyhood of the thing in question surviving to reproduce".

Of course, 100 eyes may take resources that the creature needs to survive and others spending less energy on that item may survive, but that's likely way over your ability to comprehend - there is no benefit to a mutation if the enviroment does not favour that mutation.

Now just go away and read your bible.
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But a one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind.

Why does he need two to survive?
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tell ya what, why dont you tell me how 2 eyes (stereo) is a survival advantage over 1 eye.

You are quite right, 1 eye is better then none (assuming you live in an enviroment that is lit!;) and 2 are better then 1 (assuming there is a survival benefit for 2 over 1 and stereo vision is also more usefull).

Is that simple enougth for you?

Tell ya what, your next move should be something like "but what use is half an eye?".

That's an easy one.
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hereoisreal



Posts: 115
Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 31 2006,09:28  
oldmanintheskydidntdoit, I'll speak for myself
thank you.

Earthworms have survived for millions of years without eyes but what good is half a worm?
Psa 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

Zero
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Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 31 2006,16:28)
oldmanintheskydidntdoit, I'll speak for myself
thank you.

Earthworms have survived for millions of years without eyes but what good is half a worm?
Psa 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

Zero
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Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?
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Quote (Altabin @ Oct. 31 2006,09:42)

 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 31 2006,16:28)
oldmanintheskydidntdoit, I'll speak for myself
thank you.

Earthworms have survived for millions of years without eyes but what good is half a worm?
Psa 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

Zero
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Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?

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:p

I am back to report Sire, that Zero has kicked the Beckett.
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TPH messin' about, says:


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I am back to report Sire, that Zero has kicked the Beckett.
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Watt?
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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 01 2006,09:29

Toilet paper

(Written 2/28/06)

Years ago my wife and I knew a couple who had problems getting along.
The wife mentioned to us a particular habit he had
of complaining that she used too much toilet paper.  They separated shortly there after of course.

Ever since, when Joan brings in a package of it, especially super size, from the grocery, I remind her that we really need to cut back. It's one of our in-house out-house jokes.

Two days ago, while reading the paper she exclaimed!  "Honey, you gotta see this!"
Some man, here in Florida, had killed another during  an argument about toilet paper.

When Joan asked me to jot down a couple of items for a grocery list yesterday, even though I knew we had plenty, I wrote down toilet paper and underlined it.

When she finally saw the list she remarked, " It's ironic that you listed 'toilet paper'.  I was going to add it because I have a coupon for it."

Today I read to her the above.  She answered,
“The store was out of the coupon size so I got a rain check.”

Today, March 2, I noticed that we were almost out of tooth paste so I started another list:

1. tooth paste
2 Don’t for get your rain check.

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How many angels does it take to change a
light bulb?

Four.  One to hold the light and three to turn
the world.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 02 2006,02:47

You might call this an "open letter to Sal"

< http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/1752#more-1752 >


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This is an all-star cast.
The ID movement is incredibly exciting. As the 21st century begins to unfold, it is becoming increasingly obvious that materialistic reductionism is hopelessly doomed as an explanation for all that we observe. Physical reality is just a medium — a medium in which information, design and mind are expressing themselves.
This will be the great scientific discovery of our age.
Comment by GilDodgen — November 2, 2006 @ 1:40 am
4. crandaddy // Nov 2nd 2006 at 2:12 am
Why are these conferences always either on the West Coast or the East Coast? What about those of us in the middle?
Comment by crandaddy — November 2, 2006 @ 2:12 am

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Sal, I hope you have a great time meeting all these great men.  Sorry, but I won't be there.

It took the Intelligent Designer 70 weeks to empliment and finish his plans and yall are gonna do it in 3 days?

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this

fold:

them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be

one fold,

[and] one shepherd

Zero.
Posted by: stevestory on Nov. 02 2006,16:31



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hereoisreal



Posts: 123
Joined: Feb. 2006

(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 02 2006,21:38  
Luk 4:9  And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

Luk 4:10  For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

Luk 4:11  And in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone

It's sorta like walking on water. it breaks all the laws of physics.


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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2006,01:56

Everyone likes a good puzzle.
If you had a 704 piece puzzle to put together,
the easiest two to find would be the first
and last, beginning and end.

That's the same situation we have with
finding "God".
We have a beginning, G.
We have an end, D.
Now. all we  have to find is the middle, O. ( God between God, AZ , 126).

1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern
of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the

covenant of the LORD

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims
which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will
give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

AZ, alpha and omega, equals beginning and the end, the first times the last.

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2006,03:42

An irreducible complex system (ICS):

A trap, bait, and a baiter.(bait and switch)

Is this a bad thing?


2Ki 10:18 ¶ And Jehu gathered all the people together, and said unto them, Ahab served Baal a little; [but] Jehu shall serve him much.

2Ki 10:19  Now therefore call unto me all the prophets of Baal, all his servants, and all his priests; let none be wanting: for I have a great sacrifice [to do] to Baal; whosoever shall be wanting, he shall not live. But Jehu did [it] in subtilty, to the intent that he might destroy the worshippers of Baal.

2Ki 10:20  And Jehu said, Proclaim a solemn assembly for Baal. And they proclaimed [it].

2Ki 10:21  And Jehu sent through all Israel: and all the worshippers of Baal came, so that there was not a man left that came not. And they came into the house of Baal; and the house of Baal was full from one end to another.

2Ki 10:22  And he said unto him that [was] over the vestry, Bring forth vestments for all the worshippers of Baal. And he brought them forth vestments.

2Ki 10:23  And Jehu went, and Jehonadab the son of Rechab, into the house of Baal, and said unto the worshippers of Baal, Search, and look that there be here with you none of the servants of the LORD, but the worshippers of Baal only.

2Ki 10:24  And when they went in to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings, Jehu appointed fourscore men without, and said, [If] any of the men whom I have brought into your hands escape, [he that letteth him go], his life [shall be] for the life of him.

2Ki 10:25  And it came to pass, as soon as he had made an end of offering the burnt offering, that Jehu said to the guard and to the captains, Go in, [and] slay them; let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword; and the guard and the captains cast [them] out, and went to the city of the house of Baal.

2Ki 10:26  And they brought forth the images out of the house of Baal, and burned them.

2Ki 10:27  And they brake down the image of Baal, and brake down the house of Baal, and made it a draught house unto this day.

2Ki 10:28  Thus Jehu destroyed Baal out of Israel.

2Ki 10:29 ¶ Howbeit [from] the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin, Jehu departed not from after them, [to wit], the golden calves that [were] in Bethel, and that [were] in Dan.

2Ki 10:30  And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing [that which is] right in mine eyes, [and] hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that [was] in mine heart, thy children of the fourth [generation] shall sit on the throne of Israel.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2006,04:13

Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

One god said to another god, " Let me tell you about my grandkids.  One is
only 300,000 years old and he's already walking.


Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2006,04:38

Yes, Virginia, there is a burning bush.

Do you have an "issue" with God that won't go away?

2Ki 4:8 ¶ And it fell on a day, that Elisha passed to Shunem, where [was] a great woman; and she constrained him to eat bread. And [so] it was, [that] as oft as he passed by, he turned in thither to eat bread.

2Ki 4:9  And she said unto her husband, Behold now, I perceive that this [is] an holy man of God, which passeth by us continually.

2Ki 4:10  Let us make a little chamber, I pray thee, on the wall; and let us set for him there a bed, and a table, and a stool, and a candlestick: and it shall be, when he cometh to us, that he shall turn in thither.

2Ki 4:11  And it fell on a day, that he came thither, and he turned into the chamber, and lay there.

2Ki 4:12  And he said to Gehazi his servant, Call this Shunammite. And when he had called her, she stood before him.

2Ki 4:13  And he said unto him, Say now unto her, Behold, thou hast been careful for us with all this care; what [is] to be done for thee? wouldest thou be spoken for to the king, or to the captain of the host? And she answered, I dwell among mine own people.

2Ki 4:14  And he said, What then [is] to be done for her? And Gehazi answered, Verily she hath no child, and her husband is old.

2Ki 4:15  And he said, Call her. And when he had called her, she stood in the door.

2Ki 4:16  And he said, About this season, according to the time of life, thou shalt embrace a son. And she said, Nay, my lord, [thou] man of God, do not lie unto thine handmaid.

2Ki 4:17  And the woman conceived, and bare a son at that season that Elisha had said unto her, according to the time of life.

2Ki 4:18 ¶ And when the child was grown, it fell on a day, that he went out to his father to the reapers.

2Ki 4:19  And he said unto his father, My head, my head. And he said to a lad, Carry him to his mother.

2Ki 4:20  And when he had taken him, and brought him to his mother, he sat on her knees till noon, and [then] died.

2Ki 4:21  And she went up, and laid him on the bed of the man of God, and shut [the door] upon him, and went out.

2Ki 4:22  And she called unto her husband, and said, Send me, I pray thee, one of the young men, and one of the asses, that I may run to the man of God, and come again.

2Ki 4:23  And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? [it is] neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, [It shall be] well.

2Ki 4:24  Then she saddled an ass, and said to her servant, Drive, and go forward; slack not [thy] riding for me, except I bid thee.

2Ki 4:25  So she went and came unto the man of God to mount Carmel. And it came to pass, when the man of God saw her afar off, that he said to Gehazi his servant, Behold, [yonder is] that Shunammite:

2Ki 4:26  Run now, I pray thee, to meet her, and say unto her, [Is it] well with thee? [is it] well with thy husband? [is it] well with the child? And she answered, [It is] well.

2Ki 4:27  And when she came to the man of God to the hill, she caught him by the feet: but Gehazi came near to thrust her away. And the man of God said, Let her alone; for her soul [is] vexed within her: and the LORD hath hid [it] from me, and hath not told me.

2Ki 4:28  Then she said, Did I desire a son of my lord? did I not say, Do not deceive me?

2Ki 4:29  Then he said to Gehazi, Gird up thy loins, and take my staff in thine hand, and go thy way: if thou meet any man, salute him not; and if any salute thee, answer him not again: and lay my staff upon the face of the child.

2Ki 4:30  And the mother of the child said, [As] the LORD liveth, and [as] thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And he arose, and followed her.

2Ki 4:31  And Gehazi passed on before them, and laid the staff upon the face of the child; but [there was] neither voice, nor hearing. Wherefore he went again to meet him, and told him, saying, The child is not awaked.

2Ki 4:32 ¶ And when Elisha was come into the house, behold, the child was dead, [and] laid upon his bed.

2Ki 4:33  He went in therefore, and shut the door upon them twain, and prayed unto the LORD.

2Ki 4:34  And he went up, and lay upon the child, and put his mouth upon his mouth, and his eyes upon his eyes, and his hands upon his hands: and he stretched himself upon the child; and the flesh of the child waxed warm.

2Ki 4:35  Then he returned, and walked in the house to and fro; and went up, and stretched himself upon him: and the child sneezed seven times, and the child opened his eyes.

2Ki 4:36  And he called Gehazi, and said, Call this Shunammite. So he called her. And when she was come in unto him, he said, Take up thy son.

2Ki 4:37  Then she went in, and fell at his feet, and bowed herself to the ground, and took up her son, and went out.


That's like the "issue of blood" that wouldn't go away.


Mar 5:25  And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,

Mar 5:26  And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

Mar 5:27  When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.

Mar 5:28  For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.

Mar 5:29  And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in [her] body that she was healed of that plague.

Mar 5:30  And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?

Mar 5:31  And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

Mar 5:32  And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.

Mar 5:33  But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.

Mar 5:34  And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2006,16:58

Some, in fact most all of my E mail and pm’s, say I am
“incomprehensible and off-topic”,
and most of them say I don’t make any clear point. I think I might take a  look at how I might be more explicit and clear. And thanks for the advise


My reply:

Everything I say can be proven with numbers.

I grew up a fundy but grew through it.

You see, I know them like the back of my
hand.  I've been in the camp.  They are just
as wrong as the atheists and I'm right in
the middle, catching heal from both ends.

Everyday of my life is exciting because it's
like the waters are parting ahead of me.

Curses....let’em come.  Laughter...let it come.

What goes around comes around.

The devil made a wager with God that he could
show mankind the ugliest picture possible, God
killing his son for their sins, and that Paul would
preach that as the most beautiful picture
ever created and anyone could take that to the bank
and say,"God owes me heaven because he (or we)
killed him"  
They fell for it.  He said,"Come on kids follow me.
I have the mind of God."
They sold their souls to the devil.
The trap is set with bait on it.  (That's ICS, a trap, bait, and  baiter)
Paul said, and this is the first and last time I will quote him:


2Cr 11:16 I say again, Let no man think me a fool; if otherwise,
yet as a fool receive me, that I may boast myself a little

Gal 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel
unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach
any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


Low and behold, here comes an angel from heaven preaching another gospel.

Rev 14:6 ¶ And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

( Let the trumpet sound )

Rev 14:7  Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

Here's the everlasting gospel:

God the father, Jesus, went to the cross.

His son, the Christ child, Messiah, King of kings, is born after the cross in Rev. 12:5  

That sorta leaves out the possibility

of separation of church and state.

Now, you can read Psm 2 in context:

Psa 2:1  Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take
             counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Psa 2:4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.


Psa 2:5  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psa 2:6  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Psa 2:7  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:8  Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.

Psa 2:9  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psa 2:10  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Psa 2:11  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.



Does God have plans, direction, vision, and purpose?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.



Contrary to the present gospel, sins are not

"paid for", they are forgiven.

Those forgiven most will love most.

Life is about family and home, which I

mention quite often in my posts.

Zero
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 Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 02 2006,20:29)
I asked a simple question and expected a

simple answer.

You asked a gibberish non-question with no conceivable answer.

Most agree, ID is dead.  Was God ever I AM?  Is God

dead?  

Zero

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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 06 2006,00:06

I am older than dirt.  Before Abraham was, I AM.

Let me tell you about my grand kids:

I have three grandbabies.  One is a doctor in Minnasota.  One is retired from
the milatary and little Johnnie Doe is only 300,000 years old and he's already
walking.  In fact, his birthday is comin' up again next month.


Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it].

Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 06 2006,14:22

The following is story # 12 on my web site at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

SEARCH  FOR GOD

September 18, 1996, I went to the Netscape search engine and typed the word “God” on my computer.  When the result came back, it read:  “No matches found.  Your search is too general.  Be more specific.  Instead of “Dog”, use “Cocker Spaniel”.  I thought, “Should I search for “big God” or “little God”?

A few weeks later, I ran across this joke in the October 1996 Reader’s Digest:

Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?  He stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog.
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Today, November 6, 2006, I realized "big" plus "dog" = God (704)

There use to be a commercial for toilet paper called "Mr. Big".
It came in three rolls and the jingle said, "I love you, Mr. Big."

3 x Big (18) = Love (54)

318 + 360 = 678 (666 + 12 foundations)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 06 2006,16:10

A wonderful thing happened today!

A man realized that I knew he hates my guts.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2006,04:33

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Quote: Originally posted by Sevivon1913
"Today, November 6, 2006, I realized "big" plus "dog" = God (704)"

What in hades does that mean? Where do you get all these calculations?
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A = 1, Z = 26 (First & Last)

I (9) x N (14),first & last letters in the bible = 126 (AZ)

The word "God" says:

"Seven circles folded once. (7 x 360 divided by 2), 1260 (AZ + "nothing")"

"WORD" ( W x O x R x D ) = Jehovah x 360 (69 weeks)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2006,05:10

Gone With The Wind

2Ch 3:13 The wings of these cherubims spread themselves forth twenty cubits:
and they stood on their feet, and their faces [were] inward.

Rev 11:11 ¶ And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them,and they stood upon their feet; and great
fear fell upon them which saw them.
 
Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither.
And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

The first resurrection occured at the "dot" in the middle of Rev 11:12 after the word hither.

Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

Pray for the win.  Pray for the wind.  And pray for the windage.

The smart money was on Golieth.

Zero
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They stayed up until this afternoon.  One of my
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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2006,21:07

70 six fold = 4480
70 seven fold = 8960
8960 x 99 = God x 1260
1260 = seven circles (360s) folded. (divided by two)
The word "GOD" says seven circles folded (once).

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Luk 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2006,08:54

God's first words:

"Let there be light."

Mat 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mar 13:31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Luk 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus wrote the book, then said, "It is finished."

Jehovah x 360 = W x O x R x D (24,840)

24,840 + 360 = 70 weeks (69 +1)

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Zero
Posted by: Occam's Toothbrush on Nov. 08 2006,09:07

Since zero's postings have absolutely nothing to do with evolution, intelligent design, the price of tea in China, or anything else rational, and are not generating any conversation or responses (expect to point out their total lack of coherence and relevance), I vote to delete or close the thread and ask him to quit with the bible numerology stuff or bug off.

Not that I get a vote.  Just sayin'.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2006,10:39

Steve, ID has been my primary topic on this thread and will continue to be.

My wife is an excellent cook and when she is asked for a recipe, she doesn't write down all the ingredients she leaves out.

I have not bashed evolution and will not attempt to embarress you here.

I'm glad Toothbrush is not God.

You are on the spot and are almighty here.  With one push of the button, and I'm outta here.



Story # 47 on my site:

OCEAN TO GAS
         I went to work one morning and turned to the mechanic next to me and said, "If God wanted to, He could turn the oceans into gas and look for someone with a match."  A couple of hours later I was listening to the radio when the news came on.  The announcer said that a Cuban refugee had boarded an airliner, thrown gasoline on a stewardess and threatened to strike a match.

Zero

Reason for edit: I cut this short because I was in
the process of getting all the dead earthworms out
of my swimming pool.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2006,21:06

Some of this I've said before, however I feel it's worth repeating.

Circular reasoning

"It is enough."

Luk 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

See Rev 14:14 & 14:17


I x N (beginning x end ) x it = one x one week = AZ x 180  = G x O x D x love = 1260 (seven circles folded)
x ( 9 + 9 ) = AZ x ( [I x N] + Love ) = AZ x 360/2 = Zec 9:9 = King, AZ, & Foal = John 10:16 =

John 1: 1 = WORD x 3 AZ = G x O x D x God  (God is Love)


I AM + I AM + I AM = Jehovah

Jehovah x 360 = W x O x R x D  (69 weeks )

360 = One week ( one generation, one circle )

Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Does God have a goal, a plan?

In seventy weeks:

1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4.bring in everlasting righteousness
5.seal up the vision and prophecy
6.anoint the most Holy

Did you hear about the spider sooo big he had a World Wide Web?

WWW x 360 + one 360 = 70 weeks

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish
the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to
bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 09 2006,07:29

I have said the first resurrection occured in the middle of Rev 11:12.

Here is the big, big, big bang:

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 09 2006,09:41

When AZ became three:

(GOD), (11 hid in 111), (AZ x 1.5)    Zec 9:9

AZ x 1.5 x 180 = IRON  (34,020) Rev. 12:5

Man's best friend is God turned backward.

Zec 9:9 ¶ Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

"This day thou shalt be with me in paradise."  (pair rode AZ)

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Rev 16:19  And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

How God armed a Gideon for the battle of Armageddon:

Jdg 7:16  And he divided the three hundred men [into] three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with empty pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 10 2006,15:41

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Quote: Originally posted by Sevivon1913

YHWH = Zero (64)?
Jesus = 74 (GD)?

GD + "nothing in me" = God???????????


OK, now you ARE joking -- there's no way even a fruitcake or a crackpot would say something (clearly out of THIN AIR or RANDOM picking of numbers) so silly.

WHY is Jesus 72, WHY is God 64? Jesus is more letters, it MUST add to more than God. That makes NO SENSE. Are you making this up randomly?

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Jesus is NOT 72.

Jesus = 74
YHWH = Zero (64)
God = 26
Jehovah = 69 ( 3 x I AM )
Nothing = Truth
Eve + v = ewe
Eve + 22 = Love (God is love)
Eve x 22 = God (704), and there's a zero in it.

God = 704, 54, 26, and 1260 (AZ + nothing )

I use a code, a numerical value for each letter of the alphabet.
A equals 1. Z equals 26.
I total up the individual letters in a word to get its value. An example:
point(16+15+9+14 +20) = 74 (GD).
Finished=74
Jesus = 74
messiah = 74
yshua = 74
cross = 74
beauty = 74
heavens = 74 (the heavens declare)
clouds = 74 (coming in the clouds)
signet = 74
between = 74 (74/2 = 37) (cg) (fold)

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

gospel = 74
Jesus said, "The prince of this world cometh and has nothing (O) in me". Jesus (GD) plus nothing (O) = God See Ez. 46:8

Jewels = 74
Mal 3:16 ¶ Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Here is wisdom:
74 + 9 = wisdom 83
74 X 9 = 666

"You 12".... 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78
3X God (3x26)= 78
The total of the next 12 = 3 x Jesus (222)
The combination of the first 3 12's (1-36)=666 (Check out a roulette table.)
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
"What God" = 78
"Joined together" = 222
25 through 36 = 366
366 + 12 foundations (O & double Zero ) = 378 ( 3 x AZ ) AZ under.
12 x Jesus = 888
88 x 8 = 704 (God )
8 + 8 + 8 = gap

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

There are 24 elders around the throne in Rev.

24 X 74 = 1776

New birth 7/04/1776

Zero

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You mean Isaiah 11:1 Yishay (yee-shah'-ee) Iesae

Is this the only place where Jesus was in the septuagint?

If Mary wanted her son to be the saviour, then why didn't she call him yee-shah'-ee ?

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No Joshua is translated Éçóïõ (in Greek names, the forms of the name change depending on their function in the sentence is which is why it is not Éçóïõò here) in Ex. 17:9 in the LXX (Septuagint) and Éçóïõò in Ex. 17:10, 13; 24:13; 32:17; and 33:11; just to name the ones from Exodus. In all, Éçóïõò in all its forms shows up 240 times in the LXX including the Apocrypha.



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Posted by: Occam's Toothbrush on Nov. 10 2006,18:07

The palindrome of Bolton would be "Notlob."  It don't make sense!

I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly.
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Nov. 10 2006,18:10

Dude, just let Zero keep talking to himself.  It keeps him out of everyone's way.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 11 2006,12:16




This is my rock of all ages. It has adults, babies,
and every age between.

There is nothing there but family and they are tied
together by themselves.

All are symmetrical and are made of the same stuff.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 11 2006,20:21



Mat 13:45  Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:


Mat 13:46  Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Luk 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

This is God's country.


The doctor is "IN".

Zero
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Quote: Originally posted by Sevivon1913

YHWH = Zero (64)?
Jesus = 74 (GD)?

GD + "nothing in me" = God???????????


OK, now you ARE joking -- there's no way even a fruitcake or a crackpot would say something (clearly out of THIN AIR or RANDOM picking of numbers) so silly.

WHY is Jesus 72, WHY is God 64? Jesus is more letters, it MUST add to more than God. That makes NO SENSE. Are you making this up randomly?
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Me:

Jesus is NOT 72.

Jesus = 74
YHWH = Zero (64)
God = 26
Jehovah = 69 ( 3 x I AM )
Nothing = Truth
Eve + v = ewe
Eve + 22 = Love (God is love)
Eve x 22 = God (704), and there's a zero in it.

God = 704, 54, 26, and 1260 (AZ + nothing )

I use a code, a numerical value for each letter of the alphabet.
A equals 1. Z equals 26.
I total up the individual letters in a word to get its value. An example:
point(16+15+9+14 +20) = 74 (GD).
Finished=74
Jesus = 74
messiah = 74
yshua = 74
cross = 74
beauty = 74
heavens = 74 (the heavens declare)
clouds = 74 (coming in the clouds)
signet = 74
between = 74 (74/2 = 37) (cg) (fold)

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

gospel = 74
Jesus said, "The prince of this world cometh and has nothing (O) in me". Jesus (GD) plus nothing (O) = God See Ez. 46:8

Jewels = 74
Mal 3:16 ¶ Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Here is wisdom:
74 + 9 = wisdom 83
74 X 9 = 666

"You 12".... 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78
3X God (3x26)= 78
The total of the next 12 = 3 x Jesus (222)
The combination of the first 3 12's (1-36)=666 (Check out a roulette table.)
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
"What God" = 78
"Joined together" = 222
25 through 36 = 366
366 + 12 foundations (O & double Zero ) = 378 ( 3 x AZ ) AZ under.
12 x Jesus = 888
88 x 8 = 704 (God )
8 + 8 + 8 = gap

Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

There are 24 elders around the throne in Rev.

24 X 74 = 1776

New birth 7/04/1776

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Quote: Originally posted by Add Homonym

Recenty I bumped into the Jesus=888 idea. Here's a website explaining it if you are new to this.
< http://www.jesus8880.com/ >

To me, this indicates that the Greek mystics chose "Iesous", because it was 888, not because it had much resemblance to his supposed name y'hoshua. At the very least, they tacked an s onto the end.

It is said that the Masoretic scribes (200BC) stayed away from the name yahashua because it was too close to YHWH, so they used yehashua.

yahushua appears to mean IaHU-savior, where IaHU is the short form of IaHUeH. Was this a common name around 4BC?

It appears that Jesus had no given name.


Éçóïõò is the Greek translation of Joshua in the Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures which was around at least a hundred years prior to Jesus.

Therefore, Jesus had a name, which we now transliterate straight from Hebrew as Joshua
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Quote: Originally posted by Add Homonym

You mean Isaiah 11:1 Yishay (yee-shah'-ee) Iesae

Is this the only place where Jesus was in the septuagint?

If Mary wanted her son to be the saviour, then why didn't she call him yee-shah'-ee ?


No Joshua is translated &#921;&#951;&#963;&#959;&#965; (in Greek names, the forms of the name change depending on their function in the sentence is which is why it is not &#921;&#951;&#963;&#959;&#965;&#962; here) in Ex. 17:9 in the LXX (Septuagint) and &#921;&#951;&#963;&#959;&#965;&#962; in Ex. 17:10, 13; 24:13; 32:17; and 33:11; just to name the ones from Exodus. In all, &#921;&#951;&#963;&#959;&#965;&#962; in all its forms shows up 240 times in the LXX including the Apocrypha.

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This is the only point (74) I was trying to make when this post was deleated:

(&#921;&#951;&#963;&#959;&#965) showes up
on the site as "INOOU".

INOOU = 74 (Jesus)

9 x Jesus = 666

12 x Jesus = 888

88x8 = God (704)

24 x Jesus = 1776

new birth = 7/04/1776

Blessings

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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 13 2006,04:58

Psa 37:37  Mark the perfect [man], and behold the upright: for the end of [that] man [is] peace.

fold (37) + fold (37) = Jesus (74)

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

This post below is copied from the following site:

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Here is an example of an isopsephia riddle taken from the Christian Sybyllines which the early Church claimed were written before the time of Christianity and which were widely touted as prophesies of the new religion:

When the virgin shall give birth to the-word of God the Most High, she shall give to the-word a name, and from the east a star will shine in the midst of day gleaming down from heaven above proclaiming to mortal men a great sign. Yes, then shall the son of the great God come to men, clothed in flesh like mortals on earth. Four vowels he has ... and twofold the consonants in him ... and now I will declare to you the whole number ... eight monads, and to these as many decads, and eight hundreds his name will show.

The Sybylline Oracles, circa 150 AD

To solve the riddle, the son of God has to have a name with four vowels which is transparent in meaning. The word "twofold" however is a mini riddle because many people think "twofold" refers back to the number of vowels. If that is true, the mysterious name must have twelve letters ...eight consonants and four vowels. It is interesting to note that the average value of the twelve Greek letters is the "whole number 74" (more on that later). The other possibility is that "twofold" refers to the number of consonants which means the name has six letters. The final constraint is that the number of his name must be "888" (8 + 80 + 800). The answer is that the word twofold actually refers to the number of consonants because the Greek name Iesous has four vowels I, H, O, U and one consonant ... the letter S ... which appears "twofold" times ... and all six Greek letters now add up to "888." Amazingly, the whole number "74" is the common factor of all the names and titles of Jesus! See table below.

Jesus = IhsouV = 10+8+200+70+400+200 = 888

The Mystery of the "Raised Jesus"  
(888 x 10) = 8880
This may seem incredible: nobody in modern times before the publication of this book has ever recognized that the gematria value of key words such as "fishes," "loaves," "the net," the "sun," and the names  "Jesus," "John the Baptist," "Simon Peter," the collective names of his twelve apostles are all linked to each other through very simple geometric ratios based on "the number" of the name "Jesus" raised by a power of ten to the number "8880." Matthew, Mark, and John used this geometric relationship extensively in their gospels! All the "mysteries" of Christianity are based on the metaphor of the raised Jesus (8880). Some striking examples are shown in the table below (browse the site to see the Greek spellings and more examples of gematria)

Name or Title
Gematria Value
Common Factor 74
Product

Jesus
  888
74 x 12
888 x 10 = 8880

Christ
1480
74 x 20
1480 x 6 = 8880

John the Baptist
2220
74 x 30
2220 x 4 = 8880

Son of Man
2960
74 x 40
2960 x 3 = 8880

The raised Jesus
8880
74 x 120
8880 x 1 = 8880
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 13 2006,21:48

God is a family, plural, and the kings of the earth know it:

Psa 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD,and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Jhn 10:30  I and [my] Father are one.

I (9) + 351 = 360

Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

The golden wedge of Ophir is nine (9) degrees.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2006,07:59

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.......or was 666 a talmudic/tanakh number for "the beast" before that?


of course,

it is gematria of "meah shearim", a hundredfold, in Genesis 26:12,

And Isaac sowed in that land, and he found in that year a hundred fold, and the Lord blessed him.

hundred, hey what is hundred?

10+20+30+40=100 - it forms a triangle.

100 is the value of the letter "kuf", nineteenth letter of Hebrew alphabet.

"kuf"= needle's eye; spelled out it has gematria 186, which is also gematria of "makom" = place; name of God, "the omnipresent".
God -- Hashem YHWH -- in numbers 10-5-6-5.
186 is the squared name: 10x10+5x5+6x6+5x5.

"kuf" is fourth letter from the end of alefbet; "dalet" is fourth letter from the beginning.
They form each others "atbash". (Zero is in the middle -- between "kaf" and "lamed")

"dalet" (as word) = door; gematria 434.

434 is the number of words in the first chapter of Hebrew Genesis.

the 434th word is "hashishi"= the sixth.

The name of God, HaShem, is hidden in the beginletters of the last two words of Genesis 1 and teh first two words of Genesis 2,
"yom hashishi vaychulu hashamayim".

if you leave the leter "hey" of "hashishi" out, there is no HaShem anymore hidden there.

Then you would read "yom shishi" = sixth day.

gematria of "yom shishi" is 666

yud = 10
vav = 6
mem = 40
shin= 300
shin = 300
yud = 10.


the letters "kuf" and "dalet" togther form the word "dak" = thin, lean, fine, minute -- root of "d'yukan" - portrait, imago.

Rashi on Genesis 1:27, in the image of God He created him It explains to you that the image that was prepared for him was the image of the imago of his Creator. — [from B.B. 58a]

So now you might get an idea of what the beast of Revelation is about:

Revelation 13:15,
It was then permitted to breathe life into the beast's image, so that the beast's image could speak and (could) have anyone who did not worship it put to death.

it says: INRI --

"dak" has full value of 620 (434+186).

620 is gematria of "keter" = crown.

620 is the number of letters of the ten commandments inscribed on the first set of stone tablets smashed by Moses.

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"(Zero is in the middle -- between "kaf" and "lamed")

"dalet" (as word) = door; gematria 434.

434 is the number of words in the first chapter of Hebrew Genesis.

the 434th word is "hashishi"= the sixth."
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"Zero" is in the "middle" of "GOD".

360 + 74 (GD) = 434

The following story is # 288 from my website at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com/index2.htm >

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434
         Because I use a system whereby every word has a value, everything means something.  It must fit as a piece of a puzzle.  This is my own theory, but everything that I see fits in this puzzle.  I found this code years ago.  When I say I found it, I realize that I can't find anything unless God shows it to me. "A" equals one and "Z" equals 26.  Because I sort of peeped into heaven, I saw something beautiful. I don't know whether you'd call it a vision or imagination, but I wouldn't accept it.  Then this system, this simple code made all of this fall into place.  What I saw was what few preachers preach about, and what you can't find much information about in the libraries.  I accept that and there's a reason for it.  It is the significance of the one piece of gold from which Moses made the top to the Ark of the Covenant. (the lid to the box in the Holy of Holies.)  God described in detail how Moses was to make it.  I have a numerical value for this.  The number is 434.  (74+360 or Jesus + nothing.)

         I was up in the front office at General Dynamics and had 434 on my mind.   I had told the personnel director that I wanted to change my charity account to equal my union dues.  He said, "The union dues changed in January, and they're up to such and such figure, and you pay your charity weekly.  "So," he said, "here's what we'll do - we'll take the new union dues, multiply that by 12 and divide it by 52."  He did that on the scratch pad and said, "I come up with $4.34."

         I got to thinking about 434 and I realized that highway 434 in Orlando was the place that I spent the first full night in Florida when I came here ten years ago.  Then I found 434 in the 62 weeks in Daniel.  That would be 434 days. 69 weeks is broken down into 7 and 62 weeks, and there's no reason stated there, but it's simply telling me that 62 X 7 is 434 and that has significance.

         One day I was at Morrison's and as I was eating, I was thinking about all these 434's that had been coming up.  In fact DCD, which in the code is 434 - was put on Brevard County license plates.  In other words, this is the only county in the state that was given that numerical designation.  That was very significant to me as well.  I was thinking on all these 434's when in walks this preacher and his wife.  They sat at a table nearby, and throughout my whole meal I wanted to go over and tell him that I thought I may have found out something.  Then my better self, because of my past experiences said, "No, leave him alone.  But I want to tell him about these 434's that keep coming up," and something said, "No, just leave him alone."  Finishing my meal, I picked up my ticket and looked at it , it was $4.34.

         I bought an old car in Eufaula, Alabama, and I went to pick it up in a 1970 Marquis.  The gas gauge had been out for about three years - so as I started to leave, I noted the mileage mentally.  I do this when I fill up - otherwise I may run out of gas.  I noted when I filled up that day that the mileage read 410.  I thought, "How can I remember that?"  I said, "Well, I'll think of a 410 gauge shotgun."  That was my way of remembering what my mileage was as I started out for Alabama.  Before I left I made a one-mile detour to see somebody, and then on my way I picked up somebody and took them to a filling station - went out of my way, and I got lost one time because of a detour.  As I began to approach Eufaula, Alabama I looked at my speedometer and guesstimated what my mileage there would be.  I said, "It looks like it might turn out 434 miles added onto 410. But no, that really wouldn't happen.  I would be searching for answers, I would be trying to say, 'Is God real? Would God do that?' even though I 'm looking ahead that that might happen."  The more I read the number of miles to Eufaula, the more I realized that it might work out to be 434 miles.  There's a lake on the east side of Eufaula, and the city boundary is on the west end of that bridge as you enter the city.  As I hit that city limit sign of Eufaula I looked at my speedometer and it read 844, which would have worked out, subtracting the 410 to exactly 434 miles.

         It took me a while, but I finally realized that the initials of the company I had worked for five years were GDCD, General Dynamics Convair Division, and I knew that GD has the same value as Jesus (74), and that CD was 34, which has the same value as one, so GDCD meant Jesus + 1.  It also had reference to "a city (CD) on a hill" if Jesus was the hill and the CD was the 0 "nothing in me" split.

         In 434, I see hidden a total of 11 - 4, 3 & 4 - Jesus said, "The kingdom of heaven is like 3 measures in which a woman hid leaven," but I read it as 11.

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My house number for 25 years has been 434.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2006,23:29

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I recieved an E from the Mods at this site explaining why I could not post.
Here is their E and my reply:


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To the Mods at Theo: (It's all about the O)

I suspect, am not positive, that either SparkO or Pilgram were looking for a reasonto hack me.  
I may not want to post on your site any more.  My efforts to reach you have so far failed and my patience is drawing then.  Sometimes, it is best to shake the dust off your feet and move on.
I have found in life, that time goes by at the speed of light and that's pretty fast.
The best thing to do is wait upon the Lord and he is never early or late.

Blessings

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Ps:  I am fighting the atheists on the site below also:

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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 15 2006,06:19


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 15 2006,06:41

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 11 2006,20:21)




Mat 13:45  Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:


Mat 13:46  Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Luk 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

This is God's country.


The doctor is "IN".

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The "first" family:
Mother of all living
Child of all living
Father of all living
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 15 2006,06:56



Would God do this?

Psa 2:1 ¶ Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Psa 2:4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psa 2:5  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psa 2:6  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Psa 2:7  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:8  Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.

Psa 2:9  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psa 2:10  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Psa 2:11  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Blessings

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 15 2006,19:55

I THINK YOU'RE THE FATHER OF ONE OF MY KIDS.....

A guy goes to the supermarket and notices a beautiful blond woman wave at him and say hello.
He's rather taken aback, because he can't place where he knows her from. So he says, "Do you Know me?"

To which she replies, "I think you are the father of one of my kids."
Now his mind travels back to the only time he has ever been  unfaithful to his wife and says, "My God, are you the stripper from my bachelor party that I made love to on the pool table with all my buddies watching, while your partner whipped my hinny with wet celery???"

She looks into his eyes and calmly says, "No, I'm your son's math teacher."
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 15 2006,20:55

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I really hate to see this thread dying.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 16 2006,05:04

Did you hear about the two trees falling on the flower shop on Garden street?
They say you couldn't see the florist for the trees.

Since I had made this joke up years ago and had told it many times, I debated whether to mention it among a group waiting to tee off at La Cita, especially
knowing they probably had heard it.  I decided, even though they were talking about the weather, not to try to fit it in.

At that moment Jim Palak walked up to the group, turned to me and said, "Did
you hear about that tree falling in the street near number eight tee?"

I said, "Come on Jim, what's the punch line?"

He replied, "No, I'm serious.  There's a big magnolia tree down in the street
and when the city workers started cleaning it up, they found a body underneath."

"Now I know you're joking." I said, but he insisted he was telling the truth.

At about six O'clock in the morning, the tree had fallen on a woman jogger.
There was not a stir of breeze when it happened.

The next morning, as I and my group stood on number ten tee to begain
a round, I couldn't help but think of the morning before.  We were standing beneath a huge oak that leaned over us in a slight breeze.

I said, "God, why?  Why did you do that?"

Six holes later, after I had swung around the green on 16, and was getting out of my cart, one third of the tree behind Joe Arthurs's house came crashing
down on the cart path behind me.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 16 2006,05:23

I think I have posted this before:

The new birth: (Borne again)

Jhn 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
Jhn 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him,
Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for
no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say
unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is
old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit,
he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh;
and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the
sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and
whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

Years ago I wrote a little poem about this:
Pray For The Wind

A gentle breeze
stirs the trees.
Wind's affect
is what one sees.

Eze 37:8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them,
and the skin covered them above: but [there was] no breath in them.

Ez. 37:9 Then He said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, 'Thus says the Lord GOD: "Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they may live."

Eze 37:10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them,
and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

(Notice these are slain).

Eze 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts

. Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus
saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open
your graves, and cause you to come up out of
your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

Eze 37:13 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD,
when I have opened your graves, O my
people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken [it], and performed [it], saith the LORD



The new birth steps:

Step #1 God puts all bones together.
Step #2 God puts flesh on bones.
Step #3 God opens graves.
Step #4 God brings all Israel out of graves.
Step #5 God puts his spirit in each body.
Step #6 Each shall live.
Step #7 God places them in their own land, Israel
Step #8. Then they'll know God said it and did it


Eight steps for God.

Zero steps for man.

One giant leap for mankind.

Pray for the wind
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 17 2006,03:55

Toilet paper

(Written 2/28/06)

Years ago my wife and I knew a couple who had problems getting along.
The wife mentioned to us a particular habit he had
of complaining that she used too much toilet paper.  They separated shortly there after of course.

Ever since, when Joan brings in a package of it, especially super size, from the grocery, I remind her that we really need to cut back. It's one of our in-house out-house jokes.

Two days ago, while reading the paper she exclaimed!  "Honey, you gotta see this!"
Some man, here in Florida, had killed another during  an argument about toilet paper.

When Joan asked me to jot down a couple of items for a grocery list yesterday, even though I knew we had plenty, I wrote down toilet paper and underlined it.

When she finally saw the list she remarked, " It's ironic that you listed 'toilet paper'.  I was going to add it because I have a coupon for it."

Today I read to her the above.  She answered,
“The store was out of the coupon size so I got a rain check.”

March 2, I noticed that we were almost out of tooth paste so I started another list:

1. tooth paste
2 Don’t for get your rain check.
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The day of the "pooky 1" story, my wife was disappointed when I came into the Target store after parking and didn't immediately notice that her shopping cart was briming over with toilet paper.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 17 2006,04:03

Life is a trip:

I said to a tenent of mine one day, "Life is a trip.
It's like the temple in Ezekiel where
everything inside is measured. If you come in through the north gate,
you have to leave through the south gate.

If you enter through the south door, you must depart through the north door.
Only the Prince, the Messiah, comes and goes
through the east (middle) gate."

I got in my truck, pulled out onto US 1, and wound up behind another truck.

I then glanced at a bumper sticker which said, " Get in, sit down, shut up, and hold on."
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 21 2006,07:58

There is a follow up to the following which is why I'm repeating myself:

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This story has a ring to it:

In January, 2004, I was on my patio when I noticed my neighbor out in his backyard with a metal detector. He must have spent 3-4 hours scanning his grass.
I asked him the next day, as I leaned over our fence, what had he lost. He said that he was losing weight and had lost his gold wedding ring but didn't have any idea where or when. I then glanced to my left about 8-10 feet and spotted his ring in the grass.

Night before last, Joan's sister and husband were over and I told them the above story. The next day after we had done some shopping , we were having lunch at home when Shirley, my sis-in-law discovered one of her gold ear rings was missing. We searched the house for about an hour, then backtracted. While Bob and I went to one store, my wife and Shirley went to another. They pulled into the yard about 5 minutes after Bob and I with the ear ring.

Joan said that the one parking spot I had used that morning was empty so she parked there. They searched through the whole store and around the parking space before finally getting back in the car. Then Joan told Shirley to get out one more time and look around the parking spot, which she did and got back in. As Joan was backing out, she spotted the ear ring in the sand.

In February of 06, I was playing golf and riding with Dick Ledger in his cart when he mentioned that he was having trouble keeping his wedding ring on because he was losing weight.
The remark brought back memories of the above story from the year before so I told it to him.

When I arrived home that afternoon, my wife told me that she had spoken to Janet White on the phone and learned that Bill, her husband, had lost his
ring finger while trying to lift something heavy from his son’s truck.

A few days later, Bob and Shirley came to visit again and I told them all of the above. Just before they were about to leave, Bob discovered he had lost his wedding band. (He had been losing weight.)

After they left, my wife continued to look for the ring and asked me to help.
I didn’t and said to her, " He’ll probably find it in his trunk."
Our maid, Suzan came that day so my wife asked her to keep an eye out for it also. I told her the complete story up till then. And then, I told her a ring joke.
I said, " Do you know why my fanger smells like limon pie? It’s got my rang on it."

That night Shirley called. She said Bob had found his ring in the trunk of the car.

The next time Suzan came, I told her that Bob had found his ring.
She replied, " After you told me the ring joke, I went home and found my mother in the kitchen. I asked her what she was baking and she replied,
‘Limon meringue pie’."

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No sweat

Life, contrary to what some have said, is not a race to see who is first.  In fact, it's not even a race.  Jesus walked his whole life except for two short donkey rides, but he finished.
If you have decided to compete for the prize, it might be wise to prepair a congratulatory speech to all those who might get there before you. It's called " good sportsmanship" and "losing graciously". IMO, there ought to be special classes in all school levels,from grade school to college, to teach this.
When you've had a long record of success, been given awards,  are worshiped by your admirers, and have had plenty of time to think about, "What if someone ever beats me?", don't say to the kids watching, "We really are a better team than them.  They just got lucky."

They say the smart money was on Golieth, but by
chance, David got lucky.


Eze 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge
. Eze 44:17 And it shall come to pass, [that] when they enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner court, and within.
Eze 44:18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird [themselves] with any thing that causeth sweat.

Zero

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Today, while waiting for my wife in the Target
parking lot, I was thinking about yesterday's
post above.  I said, "God, I've got to slow down
and live what I preach, take time to smell the roses."
Then across from me, a car pulled in to park.
There was just one word on the license plate:

                     "Pooky1"

Just before going to Target, we had been to lunch
at the Olive Garden, where I had stopped in the
foyer as we were leaving, to smell the artificial
flowers as a joke.  
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Three days later, Billy White, from "the ring story", and his wife Janet were over for dinner.  Bill and I discovered that we had just missed each other at Olive Garden and Target.
Bill began to speak and I interrupted him.  I said, "When you finish, I have an interesting story to tell you."  I had in mind the "Pooky 1" story.
Bill continued, "I ran into Pooky yesterday and he said Wayne Sparks is back from Sands Hospital."
I asked, "Who is Pooky?"
He replied, "You know, Jim Polk.  We call him "Pooky".

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A week ago, my wife, who had lost a pinky ring, found it in her golf glove.
That same day, Dick Ledger's wife, Joice, lost an earring.
Six days later, I found one in front of the pro shop.  I still don't know if it belongs to her.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 21 2006,10:46

Cute:

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I asked a simple question and expected a simple answer.

Most agree, ID is dead.  Was God ever I AM?  Is God

dead?  

Zero  

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 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 05 2006,00:15

Front page today  11/5:

Florida Today (my newspaper)

Having trouble staying alive?  Call Ditech.com





Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2006,10:38

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Which came first, light or eyes?
Was “Let there be light.” a prayer or command?

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

Darkness is natural. Light is created.
Night is natural. Day is created.
Chaos is natural.  Order is created.
Hate is natural.  Love is created.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
                                                       
Gen 1:3  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Gen 1:4  And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

Gen 1:5  And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

One half “day” plus one half “night” equals “evening and morning”.
One half light plus one half darkness equals “evening and morning”, dusk.
One half white plus one half black equals grey.

The first thing God created after light existed was “heaven”, something that
doesn’t change or move:

Jhn 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

Gen 1:6  And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Gen 1:7  And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so.

Gen 1:8  And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hail shall not prevail against it.


The joining together of two opposites, plus and minus, male and female, birth and death, (beginning and end) creates “life” between,  that which can be measured.

Two infinities, big and small, folded once equals zero, a reference point.
O is in the middle of G and D.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

One half “hail” plus one half “ heaven” equals “home”.

Home is where the heart is, between the top of your head and the soles of your feet.

Love God with all your heart, soul, and mind. (middle, bottom, and top)

Zero

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The first is last:
Noah
N = last (14)
ah = first, I (1 + 8)
O is in the middle.

Coming into the ark by twos: Balance 101

1 plus (-1) = zero
2 plus (-2) = zero
3 plus (-3) = zero
99 plus (-99) = zero
47,900,160 plus (-47,900,160) = zero
You get the idea?

Mar 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

A rich man plus a poor woman equals zero.

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou [that] didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou [that] didst not travail with child: for more [are] the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

The Ark

No rudder, no sail
No front, no tail
No left, no right
No lights in sight
No charts, no maps
Some prayers perhaps
No dinghy in tow
No motor to go
One window, one door
3 floors, no more
But it served its purpose

Zero
Posted by: Occam's Toothbrush on Nov. 22 2006,11:38

crackpotsezwot?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2006,12:07



When viewing a vcr tape I picked up of Raffi in concert, I realized that one of my
customers at our cocktail lounge was the spitten' image of Raffi.
The day after I made him a copy and gave it to him, this cartoon appeared
in my newspaper, the Florida Today.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Nov. 22 2006,12:18

So your whole religious view is based on coincidence?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2006,17:03

Richard, I don't have a "religious view".
I have a reality view.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 23 2006,11:53

Some thoughts on Thanksgiving Day:

God's reward for healing ten lepers....one "Thank You"...10%.

Based upon the premise that he is satisfied with that, we should thank him for life and reality at least once every ten days, not one in 365.

Zero

Edit: Friends we had over for dinner today said
"The Ten Lepers" was the topic of the sermon this
morning at church.
Posted by: Richardthughes on Nov. 23 2006,19:51

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 22 2006,17:03)
Richard, I don't have a "religious view".
I have a reality view.
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er.. okay.


which is based on numerology / coincidence.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 24 2006,03:45

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 23 2006,19:51)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 22 2006,17:03)
Richard, I don't have a "religious view".
I have a reality view.
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er.. okay.


which is based on numerology / coincidence.
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You might say that.
Numbers are real and incidents are real and I
know that God can count:

Luk 17:17 And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where [are] the nine?
Posted by: oldmanintheskydidntdoit on Nov. 24 2006,07:49

Zero, you've got one long attention span...
Posted by: Shirley Knott on Nov. 24 2006,09:10

Where are the nine?  I thought everybody knew that -- in the latter days they became the dark lord's greatest servants, his Nazgul.  Allegedly brought low, but great evil never dies [thanks to accolytes such as yourself?]
etc.

no hugs for thugs,
Shirley Knott
Posted by: Richardthughes on Nov. 24 2006,11:50

Wow. the Bible even has a book called numbers.

Convinced me...

;)
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Nov. 24 2006,15:05

Dudes, just let the nutter keep talking to himself.

It keeps him out of everyone else's way.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 24 2006,20:34

Did you hear the story about the three legged dog?

A three legged dog came hobbling into this western town.
The sheriff looked down Main Street and asked, "Whatcha' doin' in town, three legged dog?"
He replied, " I came to find the dirty dog that shot my pa."

My wife and I were at a town festival three years ago in Spruce Pine, N C, when I noticed up ahead, a booth provided by the local humane society.
I thought to myself, "When I get up there, I'll tell them about the three legged dog."
Just then, my wife said she was hungry so we stopped in a restaurant for lunch.
As we exited, I again thought about telling my joke.
I approached the booth which had several dogs lying in front.  As I opened my mouth to speak, the lady behind the counter turned to the kid next to me and said, "No, hun, the three legged dog wasn't feeling well so we put him in the truck."
I never said a word.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 24 2006,21:54

Shortly after I purchased my "rock of all ages" shown back on page six, I was sitting on my porch up in the mountains of North Carolina before daylight, thinking about it.
I said, "God, my rock is so unique, but  I wouldn't want bus loads of people coming by to file through my living room just to see it."
In the summer, we live way back on a small, winding road which is not visible from our house through the trees.  Rarely do we have any large vehicles passing by and none before daybreak.
Just then, I heard the sound of, what seemed to me, a Greyhound bus coming up the mountain.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2006,19:55



Is it seven years of famine or three?

2Sa 24:13  So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me.

1Ch 21:12  Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh [thee]; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.

Years ago I wrote a poem about the above:

Fancy Free

Against the sun in silloette
Daddy's toy, thin epaulette
"Wonder Boy" (in epithet)
Said "Man! You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Golden wings upon my wagon
After burner at my call
Moulding things or dragin' draggons
When I please, I do it all.

I'll climb the highest mountain
And I'll swim the widest sea.
Now if you think I'm crazy,
Hold your breath and just watch me.

My brother says I'm lazy.
So do my sisters three
I think they might be crazy 'cause I can jump a tree.

I have a girlfriend, Nancy,
And when she smiles at me,
I want to do a dance, see
Or write a symphony.

Thank God, that here in heaven,
We get our fancy free.
It's hard to act like seven
When you're really only three."
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 16 2006,10:00

On symmetry (balance):

The reason every living thing is symmetrical is because
the center of heaven is. (God between God)

Exd 25:22  And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

The mercy seat is unique in that it is not only symmetrical but also portable:

1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern
of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD

Another reason even non-living things are symmetrical,
like snowflakes and crystals, is because God's name is symmetrical, I AM THAT I AM.

One more reason:

Life is created by the joining together of two opposites.  We call it love or sex. (The two ends of 'life' are birth and death, plus and minus.  That's the reason 'life' can be measured.)

Reality (life) is in the middle, between 'too big' and 'too small'.

Notice that the prince comes and goes through the middle (east) gate:

Eze 46:8  And when the prince shall enter, he shall go in by the way of the porch of [that] gate, and he shall go forth by the way thereof.
Eze 46:9  But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it.
Eze 46:10  And the prince in the midst of them, when they go in, shall go in; and when they go forth, shall go forth.

Which means:

Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.

'Not where' is the middle, between nests in the air and holes in the ground, high and low, north and south, big and small, up and down....  ground zero.

Because you are made like God, in his image, you have three faces, love, indifference,
and hate.  Think of yourself as a pencil.  One end creates.  The other erases.  And the middle holds you together.

Does God have a plan?

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Dan 9:25  Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


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Breaking News:

Thursday morning 12/14, while having my coffee before daylight, I said to myself, "Because this thread has dropped from the front page because of lack of interest, I need to post something profound."  I then invisioned getting a letter from heaven and stateing what it said.
That evening, my wife said to me, "There is an item in today's paper I want you to read."
It was a letter from heaven.

I am going on a cruse for Christmas so if I don't post again before then:

HAPPY HOLLIDAYS

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 04 2007,07:06

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 11 2006,20:21)
Beginning and end:

In (the first and last letters in the bible)

Numerically, I equals 9 and N equals 14.

I plus N equals 23 (I Am)

End equals 23.

In ( the beginning )

In (the end)

beg = 14  
i = 9  
n = 14  
n =14  
i =9  
n = 14  
g plus b (back to the beginning) = 9 (which makes a circle with no end)

A = 1
Z = 26 ( G + O + D )

I x N = 126 (AZ) ( Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last )

I Am ( 9 x 14 ) =  Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last

Rev 22:13     I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Luk 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

The doctor is "IN".

Blessings for the new year

Zero

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I'm back from the cruse.  Didn't go overboard.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 07 2007,06:39

The Big Picture

Like all good stories, the one about life starts with "Once upon a time..." (Gen. 1:1) and ends with "And they all lived happily everafter ".

Rev 21:3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.

Rev 21:4  And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

God  laid out a plan, a direction, a pattern, a purpose, before he began writing the book of life:

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25  Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

These are  troublous times.

Life is about family...  God's family and it's not over til the fat lady sings.

Rev 12:2  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.  

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou [that] didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou [that] didst not travail with child: for more [are] the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

Blessings

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 19 2007,22:40

Continuing with reality, life:

Math 101 ( Putting two and two together.)

Two of man's six contacts with reality, life are:

1. The vestibular nerve (sense of balance).
2. The auditory nerve (sense of hearing).

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HumanEar.jpg >

Everything between the north gate (big) and
the south gate (small), of the temple in Daniel is measured.
The east gate is exactly half way between the
top and bottom gates, plus and minus, high and low.

Reality can be measured.

Reality is between "too big" and "too small".

The human mind is infinite so one needs a starting
point, zero, to begin to measure or count.

A sphere is the only thing in reality that appears
the same, no matter what view or angle one looks at it.

For a view of the father, son, and whole sphere it,
go to: < http://www.hereoisreal.com >

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 25 2007,19:53

Story # 57 on my web site:

GET MIRACLE EAR

I thought, “God, the human ear is truly a creation of the mind of God.  Although it’s designed like a musical drum to interact with air.  The man-made one makes sound, and yours receives sound, turning it into electrical impulses to the brain.  The tool to receive and measure air pressure is nothing like the air it measures.  It’s like man designing both a wrench and a bolt, neither is like the other, but both are perfect and serve one purpose.  Similar to the other five senses, the ear of man is a miracle.”

Just then, the announcer on my truck radio asked:  “Having trouble hearing?  Get Miracle Ear.”
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Jan. 26 2007,18:23

Dammmmnnnnn, dude, are you STILL talking to yourself . . . . ?

You need serious help.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 08 2007,11:30

Some thoughts on IC, a sort of ways and means
committee:

An automobile is not IC.  An automobile, a full tank
of gas, and a driver who knows where he’s
goin’ is an ICS.

The human body connects you, a spirit, to reality, life.
Six lines in, one out.  “IC”, said the blind man.

A sleeping person is like a driver without a car.

Jesus said, “She is not dead.  She’s sleeping.”.

Raising the dead breaks all the laws of science.

Science connects reason with reality by
observation (measuring and counting).
One must begin with a standard, a starting point.
Without it, superlatives are meaningless.
A solid foundation does not raise or lower the bar.
It is the bar.

Reality is between “too big” and “too small”.
Everything in the temple, between the north
gate and south gate, in Ezekiel is measured.
The prince goes in and out the east, middle, gate.
Gates, or doors, serve two purposes.  They let
people in and they keep people out.

Eze 43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place
of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet,
where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever,...

“Heaven”, a place that doesn’t move, is the first thing
God created after there was light, ground zero.

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters,
and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7  And God made the firmament, and divided the waters  
which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were]
above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8  And God called the firmament Heaven. And the
evening and the morning were the second day.
Posted by: Stephen Elliott on Feb. 09 2007,03:39

I have no idea what this thread is about. Does anyone else (apart from hereoisreal)?
Posted by: Chris Hyland on Feb. 09 2007,05:53

I don't think so.
Posted by: Alan Fox on Feb. 09 2007,05:57

Actually Stephen, I doubt zero has either.

(In my own defence, let me add I only looked in on this thread to see what two otherwise very sensible people were doing here, and I don't mean you zero)
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Feb. 09 2007,06:58

Dudes, just let Zero stay here and keep talking to himself.

It keeps him out of everyone else's way.
Posted by: Alan Fox on Feb. 09 2007,07:05

That's why I got my defence in first, Lenny.
Posted by: Chris Hyland on Feb. 09 2007,11:34



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let me add I only looked in on this thread to see what two otherwise very sensible people were doing here
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Me too, well to see what one person was doing. Im blaming Stephen.
Posted by: The Ghost of Paley on Feb. 09 2007,11:46

This must be where k.e. tries out new material. Not a bad parody, all things considered. People from Seattle could probably relate.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 10 2007,18:26

Quote (The Ghost of Paley @ Feb. 09 2007,11:46)
This must be where k.e. tries out new material. Not a bad parody, all things considered. People from Seattle could probably relate.
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I don't think so Paley.  I was banned from UD in
October.

Were you really born in 1906 or is that a spoof?

I'm goin' to the Keys fishin' for 4 days tomarrow.
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Feb. 10 2007,18:35

Hey Paley, are you wondering why nobody talks to you except the nutters . . . . .?
Posted by: stevestory on Feb. 10 2007,18:37

Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Feb. 10 2007,19:35)
Hey Paley, are you wondering why nobody talks to you except the nutters . . . . .?
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I'm going to preserve this here in case Lenny rereads it and tries to cover it up.
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Feb. 10 2007,20:35

Quote (stevestory @ Feb. 10 2007,18:37)
Quote ("Rev Dr" Lenny Flank @ Feb. 10 2007,19:35)
Hey Paley, are you wondering why nobody talks to you except the nutters . . . . .?
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I'm going to preserve this here in case Lenny rereads it and tries to cover it up.
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:)
Posted by: The Ghost of Paley on Feb. 11 2007,15:36

hereoisreal:



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This must be where k.e. tries out new material. Not a bad parody, all things considered. People from Seattle could probably relate.
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I don't think so Paley.  I was banned from UD in
October.

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?????



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Were you really born in 1906 or is that a spoof?

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Definitely a joke. My year of birth, that is.....
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 19 2007,23:28

It rained two of the four days in the Keys.  Didn't
catch any fish but had some time to think:

Did "Let there be light." fall on deaf ears?

Which came first... one mouth to speak, two ears to hear, two eyes in the dark, or light?

Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?
He stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog.

What do you call a duck counting sheep?
A tally quacker


Did you hear about the egg nostic who doesn't believe chickens come from eggs?

It's not a creationest's responsibility to prove there is a creator.  With life being a fact,
the burden  seems to lie with science to prove otherwise.

Zero
Posted by: Steviepinhead on Feb. 20 2007,01:57

Dude, seriously.

Eh, never mind.

More fishing.  Less thinking.  Couldn't hurt.
Posted by: Ichthyic on Feb. 20 2007,02:06



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
More fishing.  Less thinking.  Couldn't hurt.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



I've been thinking the same thing all day for some reason.

coincidence?
Posted by: Steviepinhead on Feb. 26 2007,17:16

So I just got back from a ski trip to Colorado.

One of the other participants (a college classmate) managed to work both fly-fishing and break-dancing into this same ski vacation (I only managed to work in museum-going and margarita-disappearing...).

On the first day that he went fishing, he caught one fish.  On the second day he went fishing, he caught ten fish.

Now, think about it: he just happened (according to those numerology-denying materialists) to jump one whole power of fish-catchery while going from one day to the next...

On top of which, in two days, he caught a total of eleven fish!  The cool part is that two (the number of days spent productively fishing in a row) is the sum of 1 + 1, while eleven (the total fish catch) consists of two ones ordered sequentially (a one in the ones column and a one in the tens column)...!

I mean, give me a break!  How "probable" is it that this would result from sheer randomness?

And, of course, since Colorado is a catch-and-release state, the actual throughput of all this fish production was zero, which rhymes with the nickname of the veriest founder of this veriest numerological thread...!

Furthermore, the subject of all this catch-and-releasery was the fish--the veriest symbol of the apple of hero's numerological eye.

(You know the guy I'm talking about: the fisher of men!)

And one of said fish-guy's most majorest miracles was the loaves and fishes!

That's right, kiddies!

And how do you go about turning a finite amount of fish into an infinite source of abundance?

Why, catch and release, of course!  The modern ecological equivalent of that mythical miracle...

And what's the symbol for infinity: why that little sideways eight symbol.  And if we subtract the one fish caught on day one plus the two ones used in counting the number of fish caught on day two from the total number of fish caught, you get--that's right!--eight!  The number which, turned sideways, symbolizes infinity, which stands (in this, our little parable) for both the boundless generosity of the biosystem and the boundless generosity of zero's worship-object.

And another way of looking at that infinity symbol is as two zeroes, side by side.  Which brings us back around--as if in an endless loop--to our numero-rhythmic thread-hero.

And to the net number of fish remaining after each day's catch-and-release operation...  (And one uses a net, of course, to catch what, good people?)

Finally, notice the nom-de-screen of the last (that is, the one before this one) commentator above: Ichthyic...!  And the topic of the last two comments: fishing...!

I could keep going, but I've scared myself enough for one foray*...

____
* One could also represent "foray" by means of the soundalike "4A."  Of course, A is the first letter in the alphabet, for which we could substitute the first number, or one.  Four consists of two twos, and each of those twos consists of two ones...!

Aaaiiieee!  Help me, fish-guy, for mine eyes (which we could represent as two zeroes, side-by-side) have seen the light...!

Speaking of which, I just had a cataract-removal operation, such that, on this very same skiing-fishing trip, I really did see more light!  And the only vowel in "skiing" or "fishing" is an "i".  Which we pronounce as if it were spelled--say it with me now, people!--"eye."  And, in the Roman numbering system, "i" equals one.

***I better quit while I'm behind***
Posted by: Ichthyic on Feb. 26 2007,18:19

um, based on the level of accuracy of your parody, I'd be a little worried, if I were you.

;)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 27 2007,08:38

Steve:

And, in the Roman numbering system, "i" equals one.

************************************************

Some circular logic:

I = 9
I = me, 13 (m) + 5 (e)
I = 1+3+5 (ace) so:
I = one

A piece of "money" = one

Mat 17:27  Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea,

and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou

hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give

unto them for me and thee.

135 x one week (7 x 24) = 22,680 ( love x G x O x D)

153 (fish) x 351 (God) + 1001 = 54,704 ( love, God)

(3 x God) x 22,680 = God x God x God  (704 x 54 x 1260)

351 + 9 = 360 (one)

Zero
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Feb. 27 2007,17:28

Archie, have you seen the movie "23" yet?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 27 2007,17:43

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Feb. 27 2007,17:28)
Archie, have you seen the movie "23" yet?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No, why?
Posted by: Steviepinhead on Feb. 28 2007,16:39

(Sigh)

Some people are irony proof.

Whether that "means" anything, numerologically speaking, I neither know nor care.

How cool is that?
Posted by: Ichthyic on Feb. 28 2007,17:09



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
How cool is that?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



worthy of hoisting a brew in your direction.
Posted by: "Rev Dr" Lenny Flank on Feb. 28 2007,17:49

Dudes, don't disturb Zero while he is busy talking to himself.

He might wander off.  And we don't want that . . . . . .
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 02 2007,21:54

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova, IDEA GMU — August 3, 2006:

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results.

**********************************

Sal,I like the way you think. If the numbers
don’t add up, sumthin’s not right.

Something from nothing:

O = one sign
O = no sign
O = nothing  “The prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me”
O = zero
O = ought
O = nought
O = gap filler “none”  “I looked for a man to fill the gap and found “none”.
O = 360 degrees
O = a circle (a minute, an hour, a day, a year, one revolution)
O = something without beginning nor end.
O is the middle of time.
O is the middle of size.
O is the middle of direction, ground zero.
O is the middle between the beginning and end.
O is the middle between the first and last.
O is the middle between G & D.
O is the middle (one fold) between the two ends of infinity, big and small.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 03 2007,19:26

What do you call a fish without an "eye"?

Fsh.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 07 2007,00:39

No matter how hard I try, I can't imagine something more
beautiful than reality.  That's the reason I believe it's mind made.

Luk 12:27 Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 03 2007,08:31

Copied from
< http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167047#167047 >


Dave, did you ever give one of your kids a presant in a box and when he
opens it, he  looks at the gift a few minutes and then starts playing with
the box.
The Ark is a gift.  The flood was a box.

The Ark

No rudder, no sail
No front, no tail
No left, no right
No lights in sight
No charts, no maps
Some prayers perhaps
No dinghy in tow
No motor to go
One window, one door
3 floors, no more
But it served its purpose.

                          by Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 30 2007,23:24

Just got back from 2 weeks in Hawaii.

paradise (pair rode AZ) Zec 9:9

G x O x D = 420 (360 + 60)

W + O + R + D = 60

W x O x R x D = 24840 (69 x 360)

24,840 + 360 = 25,200 (seventy 360's)

25,200 divided by 420 = 60

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity,
and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy,
and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25  Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to
restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

"seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks" = 69 weeks (W x O x R x D)

Check out the beginning, end, and middle.... father, son, and whole sphere (it) at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

First x last =AZ (126)
126 x it (9 x 20) = 22,680 (63 x 360)

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 03 2007,23:20

Posted Apr 15th 2007 7:28AM

Don Ho dead at 76
Hawaiian singer Don Ho, whose most famous song was "Tiny Bubbles," died yesterday morning in Honolulu of a heart attack.

With Don Imus's remarks about hoes flooding the news for a week, you might imagine my suspecting the finger of fate in the above news as I and my wife flew off to Hawaii the morning of the 15th.

I had already thought up several hoe jokes, like Imus imitating Santa's, "HO HO HO" etc., when my wife cautioned me not to mention Don Ho in any of those while on our trip.  She thought it would not be in good taste and I agreed.

I was on our balcony aboard ship in Pearl Harbor
naming "hoes":
hosanna, Hose, holy, holey, wholly, etc. when a tugboat passed alongside and docked.  The name on her bow....Namahoe

The evening of the day we returned home, someone won a trip to Hawaii on the Wheel Of Fortune.  We then watched a rerun of "Pearl Harbor".

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

paradise....pair rode AZ   Zec. 9:9

Zero





Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 16 2007,22:46

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova  August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm on Allen MacNeill’s site:
< http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006...omments >

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analogous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results

*******************************************

Here is story # 324 from my web site....hereoisreal.com  
 

ONE FOLD

One day 11 years ago I was wondering what Jesus meant when he said, "I have chosen you twelve." I decided to multiply the first twelve numbers together. When I had reached eleven, I ran out of space on my calculator so I started again. I decided to skip the number 10. Then I could get a total for 12 numbers by adding a zero later. The answer I got for these numbers was 47,900,160. I then wrote down 1260 and the numbers for God and love. The total for those three multiplied together equaled 47,900,160. Then I multiplied the Trinity times the Word and came up with 47,900,160. I thought my computer was going berserk.

A week later I took "one fold" and multiplied that by 99 sheep and love. The answer was 47,900,160.
For over 15 more years, I knew there was
a number that when subtracted from the above would result in reversing the 900 and 160, but I didn’’t bother to find it. One night in 1996, I was very bored, so I picked up a calculator and punched in 74, squared it, and then multiplied that by 135. (ace, one)
The result was 739,260. Having no purpose in mind, I then subtracted that from 47,900,160. The answer was 47,160,900.



Mathematically:

God x God x God  ............................... =     47,900,160

70 seven fold x 99 x love...................... =    47,900,160

God x 1260 x love ............................. =     47,900,160

10 % of heaven seven fold x God x God =     47,900,160

704 x 54 x 1260   ..............................=     47,900,160

One x one week x (3xGod) ...............  =     47,900,160

Iron x 2 x God ..................................=     47,900,160

1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12................  =     47,900,160

G x O x D x God x (3 x God)................=     47,900,160

First x last x It x (3 x God).................=     47,900,160

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God)..=     47,900,160

47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one)= 47,160,900

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5


Zero
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Oct. 19 2007,13:57

Dude, you have a mental illness.  Get help.  I'm not joking.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 21 2007,20:00

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 03 2007,23:20)
Posted Apr 15th 2007 7:28AM

Don Ho dead at 76
Hawaiian singer Don Ho, whose most famous song was "Tiny Bubbles," died yesterday morning in Honolulu of a heart attack.

With Don Imus's remarks about hoes flooding the news for a week, you might imagine my suspecting the finger of fate in the above news as I and my wife flew off to Hawaii the morning of the 15th.

I had already thought up several hoe jokes, like Imus imitating Santa's, "HO HO HO" etc., when my wife cautioned me not to mention Don Ho in any of those while on our trip.  She thought it would not be in good taste and I agreed.

I was on our balcony aboard ship in Pearl Harbor
naming "hoes":
hosanna, Hose, holy, holey, wholly, etc. when a tugboat passed alongside and docked.  The name on her bow....Namahoe

The evening of the day we returned home, someone won a trip to Hawaii on the Wheel Of Fortune.  We then watched a rerun of "Pearl Harbor".

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

paradise....pair rode AZ   Zec. 9:9

Zero





---------------------QUOTE-------------------


A couple of weeks after we got back from Hawaii,
I was standing in my driveway , leaning on a hoe
while talking to my widow neighbor when another
neighbor pulled to a stop and exclaimed, " A man and
his hoe!"
The widow turned to him and said, " I resent that remark."

************************************************

SOUTHWARD HO

by Tom Hemingway

    It's Monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing
golf with a foursome at La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more talking than playing.
    We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of
hurricane Erwin, which has passed by and headed
for Long Island, New York.
    Our course drains well so we were able to play
"cart paths only".  
    Along about the 6th hole, my first experience
with a hurricane came to mind.  I said to Denis, "Being
a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what
a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long
Island in the  early 50's for the wedding of my
friend Jack Dwyer's sister.
    The power was out and the rain was teeming down.
We wrapped  the bride in sheets and carried her into the
candle lit church for the ceremony.
    Afterward we went to a reception at a country club,
I think, is named Westward Ho."
    Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been
Southward Ho in Brightwaters."
    With my memory being what it is at this stage
in my life, I didn't argue.
    On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball
into the woods. While looking for my errant shot,
I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it
up out of the moss.
    At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found.
    When Denis completed his tee shot, I said,
"Look at the logo on this old ball I found. It says,
' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ".
    Neither Denis nor I had been near that club in over 40 years.

*****************************************
HO! HO! HO!

    Saturday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy
of the above story because I knew about it and wanted
to include it on my web page. I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife called me to dinner.    
    While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer on Golf Central said that three golfers who had never had hole-in-ones accomplished the feat together. Two on one hole and the other on
the next par 3.

***************************************

Did you hear about the spanish plumber who had twin boys?
He named one Hose and the  other Hose B.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 23 2007,11:40

The shuttle just launched.
Did you see where the Russians put up a launch yesterday?
Put five cows in orbit.  They said it was the first herd
shot round the world.  Bet it cost a lotta moola.
Sounds like utter confusion to me.  Anyway, they said they were gonna party
til the cows came home.
You gotta milk those for all they’re worth.

Here is  more detail to my previous post on 47 mil
and I’ve numbered them for easy reference:

*****************************************

Comment by Salvador T. Cordova  August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm

on Allen MacNeill’s site:
< http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments >

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science
with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:

1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analogous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results

*******************************************
Here is story # 324 from my web site.   < http://www.hereoisreal.com >
 

ONE FOLD
One day 11 years ago I was wondering what Jesus meant when he said,
"I have chosen you twelve." I decided to multiply the first twelve
numbers together. When I had reached eleven, I ran out of space
on my calculator so I started again. I decided to skip the number 10.
Then I could get a total for 12 numbers by adding a zero later.
The answer I got for these numbers was 47,900,160. I then wrote
down 1260 and the numbers for God and love. The total for those
three multiplied together equaled 47,900,160. Then I multiplied the
Trinity times the Word and came up with 47,900,160. I thought my
computer was going berserk.
A week later I took "one fold" and multiplied that by 99 sheep and love.
The answer was 47,900,160. For over 15 more years, I knew there was
a number that when subtracted from the above would result
in reversing the 900 and 160, but I didn’t bother to find it.
One night in 1996, I was very bored, so I picked up a calculator
and punched in 74, squared it, and then multiplied that by 135. (ace, one)
The result was 739,260. Having no purpose in mind, I then
subtracted that from 47,900,160.  The answer was 47,160,900.
*************************************************
Mathematically:

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................ =    47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................... =    47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................ =    47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............ =    47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x (Eve x 22)..................................................... =    47,900,160
        Eve, the mother of all living, x 22 = God
        Eve, the mother of all living, + 22 = God
        Eve + v (22) might look like ‘Ewe’ as in ‘Ewe 12'
       ‘U 12' (2112) = 3 x 704 (God)
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ..=     47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ........................................ =     47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54).................... =      47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ....................... =       47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ......................................... =      47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12....................  =     47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................ =     47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).......................... =     47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God)........... =     47,900,160
(15)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ... ....=     47,160,900

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5 & Psa 2:9


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 24 2007,09:45

I have known for some time what Jesus meant when he
said in John 15:13, " Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends."

Early yesterday morning I was thinking about that.
I recalled having saved my 3 year old's life when
he fell into the water when we were on a fishing
trip in the winter.  Without thinking, I was in the water.
Anyone else would have done the same thing
in a heart beat. It takes more love to risk your life
for a neighbor or stranger than a family member.

As has happened many times before, a coincidence
occured as I picked up the 'Florida Today' minutes
later and read the front page headline:

"Man dies rescuing author from sea"  

a total stranger

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Oct. 24 2007,10:10

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 24 2007,09:45)
I have known for some time what Jesus meant when he
said in John 15:13, " Greater love hath no man than this,
that a man lay down his life for his friends."
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I thought you were supposed to love God the most. Enough to kill your kids for. Now I'm confused.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 24 2007,10:25

Richard, IMO, that is a trap God set.
 
The plan of salvation is spelled out word by word starting
with Eze. 33:11.
I am of the old school.  I believe that what God says stays said
and that which is written in stone twice is written in stone.
I am not Jewish.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Oct. 24 2007,10:26

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 24 2007,10:25)
Richard, IMO, that is a trap God set.
 
The plan of salvation is spelled out word by word starting
with Eze. 33:11.
I am of the old school.  I believe that what God says stays said
and that which is written in stone twice is written in stone.
I am not Jewish.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


God sets traps?
I thought God is love.
Now I'm confused.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 24 2007,10:37

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
Posted by: Richardthughes on Oct. 24 2007,10:38

God is Love
God creates evil

By substitution

Evil creates love.
I'm confused.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 24 2007,11:20

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 24 2007,10:38)
God is Love
God creates evil

By substitution

Evil creates love.
I'm confused.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Richard, you and I were made just like our
creator.  We have 3 faces.  Remember the
"Three Faces Of Eve"?
Her names were:
Eve White, Eve Black, and plain Jane in
the middle.
Our's are Love, Indifference, and Hate
To change from left to right, or
right to left, one must go through the middle (O).

Think of Eve, God, you or I as a pencil.
One end creates.  The other destroys.
The middle holds them together.

Zero
Posted by: Kristine on Oct. 25 2007,14:55

Quote (Richardthughes @ Oct. 24 2007,09:26)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 24 2007,10:25)
Richard, IMO, that is a trap God set.
 
The plan of salvation is spelled out word by word starting
with Eze. 33:11.
I am of the old school.  I believe that what God says stays said
and that which is written in stone twice is written in stone.
I am not Jewish.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


God sets traps?
I thought God is love.
Now I'm confused.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Richard! Are you slipping?

God sets mousetraps! :p They're designed, and all that...

Love is the cheese. Who moved God's love?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 28 2007,09:51

Kristine, did you ever see a trap that
wasn't designed?

**********************
Yesterday my wife and I were in a serious discussion about what
life is all about.  I said the writer of the Book Of Life started
with, "Once upon a time" and ended with, "And they all lived
happily ever after.", just like the bible.

As my wife left the room, a Hilton commercial started and the
announcer began with:

"Once upon a time ....."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 29 2007,14:19

Louis:

"How does one convince any person of a proposition or the merits of any specific idea?"
***************************

One might try to use math.

Jesus ( GD or 74 ) + 'nothing in me' (O) = GOD (704)

I & N are the first & last letters in the bible.
I (9) + N (14) = IN, END, or I Am (9 + 1 + 13)
The beginning (9) x the end (14) = 126
God (26) + Jesus (74) + God (26) = 126
A = 1
Z = 26
AZ (126) + 360 = 486
A through Z (351) + 135 = 486
360 divided by 74 = 4.86486486 to infinity
1 divided by 74 = .00135135135 to infinity


Beginning and end can both be looped to have
the same values of nothing but 9 & 14.

B  E  G    I   N   N   I   N  G /   B  E
2   5  7   9  14  14  9  14  7     2  5
(   14   )                         (    14    )


  E   N   D /   E    N   D
  5   14   4    5    14  4
             (  9  )

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega,
                the beginning and the end,
                the first and the last.

37 (fold) (CG) + 37 = 74  (See Psm 37:37)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 30 2007,08:56

Does God have a goal?

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy
people and upon thy holy city, to finish
the transgression, and to make an end of sins,
and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to
bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up
the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from
the going forth of the commandment to restore and to
build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks,
and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

In seventy weeks:
1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4.bring in everlasting righteousness
5.seal up the vision and prophecy
6.anoint the most Holy


Does God ever change his mind?
 
Think about Jonah and his message to Nineveh, that God
would destroy the city in fourty days.  Jonah sat outside the
city waiting for the fireworks, and when it didn't happen, Jonah got mad. He had a totally different attitude than when he was in the fish's belly.
.
Does God have contingency plans?

Plan  A:

Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Plan B:

Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared
my dinner: my oxen and [my] fatlings [are] killed, and all things [are] ready: come unto the marriage.

Mat 22:5 But they made light of [it], and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated [them] spitefully, and slew [them]
Mat 22:7 But when the king heard [thereof], he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Plan "C"

Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as
many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests

Plan "D"

Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot,
and take him away, and cast [him] into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Even with Plan D, there is a dress code.

*********************************
Edit/ added 'Brother'
And of course, after I had written part of this post,
a Brother advertisement came on TV mentioning 'Plan B'.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 30 2007,21:27

Wedge strategy

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....ocument >

Phillip E. Johnson:

"When I preach from the Bible, as I often do at churches and on Sundays, I don't

start with Genesis. I start with John 1:1. In the beginning was the word. In the

beginning was intelligence, purpose, and wisdom. The Bible had that right."


Johnson cites the foundation of intelligent design is the Bible's Book of John,

specifically, John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God."

And to think, I was banned from UD for mentioning God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 31 2007,11:50

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................ =    47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................... =    47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................ =    47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............ =    47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
       x 1260............................................................. =    47,900,160
       Eve, the mother of all living, x 22 = God
       Eve, the mother of all living, + 22 = God
       Eve + v (22) might look like ‘Ewe’ as in ‘Ewe 12'
      ‘U 12' (2112) = 3 x 704 (God)
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ..=     47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ........................................ =     47,900,160
      704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54).................... =      47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ....................... =       47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ......................................... =      47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12......................  =       47,900,160
        (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................ =     47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).......................... =     47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God)........... =     47,900,160
(15)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ... ....=     47,160,900

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5 & Psa 2:9

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(16)  (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 = 47,900,160

In Zec. 9:9, I see 'ass' as 'AZ'. First & Last

Zec 9:9  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 01 2007,16:31

Last night, 10/31/07, my wife was reading our Health First
policy while I watched TV.
She asked me if I knew whether a referral is required to see
a specialist.
I replied, " I don't know but I think the referring doctor
gets a cut of the specialist's fee."
At that moment, a Health First Ad came on TV and
the announcer said, " Referrals are not required for
consulting a specialist."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 03 2007,11:30

What if?

Here are some hypothetical scenarios, not reality,
so I’ll be brief.

What if there was no light?  There would be no eyes.
What if there was no sound?  There would be no ears.
What if there was no direction?  There would be no up or down, East or West.
What if there was no symmetry?  There would be no word ‘level’.
What if there was no time?  The sun would not rise tomorrow.
What if there were no babies?  There would be no breasts.
What if there was no bush?  There would be no burning bush.
What if there was no A and Z?  There would be no B through Y.
What if there was no whole?  There would be no leaven in 3 measures.
What if there was no O?  There would be no +1 or -1.
What if there was no beginning and end?  There would be no middle
What if  life didn’t have  an ‘if’ in the middle?  It would be called  le.
What if  life didn’t have  an ‘f’ in the middle?  It would be a lie.

Edit  Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Edit  If God is a puzzle and you have all the pieces, the first and last
are the easiest to find.  The middle might be a problem.

The measure of a man’s life is written on his tombstone, between
birth and death. Life is in the middle.
IMO, life does have an ‘if’ in the middle.  Check out the
ifs in Ezekiel.

Eze 33:13  When I shall say to the righteous, [that] he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 33:16  None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

Zero
Posted by: Reciprocating Bill on Nov. 03 2007,11:34

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 01 2007,17:31)
Last night, 10/31/07, my wife was reading our Health First
policy while I watched TV.
She asked me if I knew whether a referral is required to see
a specialist.
I replied, " I don't know but I think the referring doctor
gets a cut of the specialist's fee."
At that moment, a Health First Ad came on TV and
the announcer said, " Referrals are not required for
consulting a specialist."

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Her next question was, "Does that include psychiatry?"
Posted by: Darth Robo on Nov. 03 2007,19:07

I wanted to say that, but I didn't!     :p

Or at least I'm still expecting a punchline.    :D
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 04 2007,13:58

What the HELL is hereoisreal trying to say?? Bible quotes, wierd math things wich completly lack any form of sense and odd statements. I don't get it.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Nov. 04 2007,14:08

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 04 2007,13:58)
What the HELL is hereoisreal trying to say?? Bible quotes, wierd math things wich completly lack any form of sense and odd statements. I don't get it.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Hero is our local Henny Youngman (you'll have to look him up, young man). He entertains himself by looking for patterns when alphabetic characters are assigned a numeric equivalence.  You can safely ignore the math and just enjoy the jokes. Hero is the kind of colorful character you'd like to meet in a diner on a cross-country car trip.
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 04 2007,14:23

Those kind of people are the reason i want to become an anthropologist or socialist (i hope i translated that correctly) :P But i don't think he's posting here for our amusement right (aka, he's dead serious)?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2007,20:12

1. Rx
2. Joke
3. "in a heart beat"


I jotted down the outline of my next post an hour ago and thought:
This is my 'to-do’ list.
I then glanced to a headline on the Florida Today newspaper next to
me to see a 'to-do’ list.

**************************

On the game show "Jeopardy" the question was:
The code notation a physician writes on a
prescription ........(like "take one once a day",
to be filled.
The answer was in the TV  section of the
newspaper on my wife's lap.
She said, "I read that today!"
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A nice, calm and respectable lady went into the pharmacy, walked up to the
pharmacist, looked straight into his eyes, and said, "I would like to buy some
cyanide."
The pharmacist asked, "Why in the world do you need cyanide?"
The lady replied, "I need it to poison my husband."
The pharmacist's eyes got big and he exclaimed, "Lord have mercy! I can't give
you cyanide to kill your husband. That's against the law! I'll lose my license!
They'll throw both of us in jail! All kinds of bad things will happen. Absolutely
not! You CANNOT have any cyanide!"

The lady reached into her purse and pulled out a picture of her husband in bed
with the pharmacist's wife.
The pharmacist looked at the picture and replied, "Well now, that's different. You
didn't tell me you had a prescription."

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On the web site, 'Good Math, Bad Math', under the topic,
'What do you want to know?',  I once inadvertently gave
a wrong numeric value for a word.
Someone caught it in a heart beat.

Zero
Posted by: Kristine on Nov. 04 2007,20:50

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 28 2007,08:51)
Kristine, did you ever see a trap that wasn't designed?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Yes.

It's called a venus flytrap.

Also quicksand.

Also a cat [mousetrap]. Etc.

A surrealist poet - anticlerical minds all - once wrote a poem beginning, "Once not upon a time..." ;)
Posted by: Jim_Wynne on Nov. 04 2007,21:01

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 04 2007,14:23)
Those kind of people are the reason i want to become an anthropologist or socialist (i hope i translated that correctly) :P But i don't think he's posting here for our amusement right (aka, he's dead serious)?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I think maybe you meant "sociologist"?  You could become a socialist sociologist, though.  At any rate, Hero is a crank, but a very good-natured one, which is the best kind.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 04 2007,21:17

Kristine, I'll admit, the 'bait' for a venus flytrap
could be it's foul odor.  Good point, but only for flies.
So what about the sand and cat?  Could it
be their beauty?
Are you baiting me?

Zero
Posted by: Nomad on Nov. 05 2007,03:11

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 03 2007,11:30)

What if there was no light?  There would be no eyes.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Cave fish, which live in an environment of no light, can still have eyes.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no sound?  There would be no ears.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Is that like "if a tree fell in the forest and there was no-one there to hear it, would it make a sound?"?

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no direction?  There would be no up or down, East or West.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



I was going to say that then we'd be one dimensional creatures.. but even with one dimension there's still one axis.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no symmetry?  There would be no word ‘level’.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Asymmetrical structures can still be level.  Actually such structures are built with levels, even.  So.. I think it's safe the say the word would still exist.

 

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no time?  The sun would not rise tomorrow.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Eh.. you might as well say the sun would have always risen.  Language wasn't made with considerations for observations made outside of space-time.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there were no babies?  There would be no breasts.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



More like if there were no mammals then there'd be no breasts.  You can have plenty of baby lizards or birds or fish without any boobs in sight.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no bush?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Then we wouldn't be pissing away billions of dollars in a self created quagmire and hundreds of thousands of dead people would still be alive?


   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no A and Z?  There would be no B through Y.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



What, we couldn't have an alphabet with 24 characters?


   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no O?  There would be no +1 or -1.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Zero doesn't really exist, it's just the concept of an absence of something.  That's why it's considered to be such a big deal with man came up with the idea of representing it with a number.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if there was no beginning and end?  There would be no middle
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Then you'd have an infinity, which could be described as ALL middle.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What if  life didn’t have  an ‘f’ in the middle?  It would be a lie.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Yeah, but without an F you can't spell.. fornication.. or the other word that means the same thing but isn't brought up in polite conversation.. and you can't have life without that.  Well, not sexually reproducing life, in any case.

   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
If God is a puzzle and you have all the pieces, the first and last are the easiest to find.  The middle might be a problem.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



You may be right about that.. and I think I may have lost a few pieces of God in my couch.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,05:53

Quote

Zero:

"What if there was no O?  There would be no +1 or -1."

Nomad:

"Zero doesn't really exist, it's just the concept of an absence of something.  
That's why it's considered to be such a big deal with man came up with
the idea of representing it with a number."

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Home 101

IMO, life is about family and home.

Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes,
and birds of the air [have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.

holes (low) (minus) (below the ground)
nests (high) (plus) (above the ground)
not where (between high and low, O, on the ground)

To start and sustain life, what came first?

1. A rooster and a hen?
or:
2. A pregnant  hen with a male egg inside?
or:
3. Two eggs (one male and one female), without a nest?




Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,11:05

I believe in an Idol  (infinite designer of life).
He has never moved the one goal or the one goal post.
He has never raised or lowered the one bar.

Gospels come and go but the one everlasting gospel
is from everlasting to everlasting.

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven,
having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell
on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn
from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk
in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 33:16  None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him:
he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

IMO, the above is the everlasting plan of salvation.  Be good and live.

Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not,
forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver.

The first, G + the last, D + OO (30) = GOOD

Zero
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Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 05 2007,11:24

Last night I was in bed when George Bush came on TV...all of the sudden, I had the strong desire take a dump!

Coincidence????

Bless you all.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,11:42

Steve, you should have listened to the whole speach.

Bush:
"First, I want to thank you for inviting me tonight.  
Thirdly, who in the hell shut off the teleprompter"

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 05 2007,12:51



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
I think maybe you meant "sociologist"?  You could become a socialist sociologist, though.  At any rate, Hero is a crank, but a very good-natured one, which is the best kind.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Thanks Jim, still working on my english :) Anyway, there is NO way i could ever react to the things he says, they simply do not make any sense. Funny to see btw, how so many people can't make difference between reality and they're own thoughts and ideas.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,13:39

Assassinator, reality was 'mind made', planed.
Search the Blue Letter Bible for 'pattern' to start.
Then search for 'the father' & see the number
of results.
Just a cooincidence perhaps.

You have a good day and hope you meet your
goal to become a sociologist.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 05 2007,13:56

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 05 2007,11:42)
Steve, you should have listened to the whole speach.

Bush:
"First, I want to thank you for inviting me tonight.  
Thirdly, who in the hell shut off the teleprompter"

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Now that made me chuckle.
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 05 2007,14:05



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Assassinator, reality was 'mind made', planed.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


To use a famous internet lingo: ORLY??? Now what do you have to prove that, just ancient texts wich you interpret in a certain way?
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 05 2007,14:08



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
You have a good day and hope you meet your
goal to become a sociologist.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


It's not really my goal to become one, i'm studying bio-informatics at the minute :)
But have a good day too.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,15:43

Assassinator, I'm not trying to 'prove' anything
to anybody and I'm not in a spittin' contest.
Apparently, you didn't even start in the direction
I pointed.
First search the Blue Letter Bible (KJV) for 'pattern'. Then search for 'the father'
& see the number (amount of posts) of his name).

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 05 2007,16:42

You're reading in the Bible what you want to read, "search and you shall find". In all, it's an age old collection of scriptions and no sort of manual on how to read it is preserved. We only have the scholary methode to get some clues about what the writers could've ment with there texts. Have you ANY idea how many interpretations there are of scriptures like the Bible?? Your just 1 of them, 1 of many who all claim to be right. This has nothing to do with patterns. For example, i have to bike across a bridge everyday to get to the trainstation for school. Now when the sun is bright, i see lots and lots of triangles because of particles in the tarmac are flashing in the sunlight. Would this mean the bridge is actually just another Masonary sign of there goal of world-domination (1 of there signs is a piramide: triangle). Ofcourse not.
You say you're not proving anything? Ofcourse not, it's all clear to you, you've got your answers, you've made up your mind. Are you trying to enlighten us then? With what?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 05 2007,17:21

Assassinator, any structional engineer will tell
you all bridges are made up of triangles, even
swingin' ones.

Rev 13:17  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the
number of his name.

Rev 13:18  Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,07:30

Assassinator:

"What the HELL is hereoisreal trying to say?? Bible quotes, wierd math things wich completly lack any form of sense and odd statements. I don't get it."

"You're reading in the Bible what you want to read, "search and you shall find". In all, it's an age old collection of scriptions and no sort of manual on how to read it is preserved. We only have the scholary methode to get some clues about what the writers could've ment with there texts. Have you ANY idea how many interpretations there are of scriptures like the Bible?? Your just 1 of them, 1 of many who all claim to be right. This has nothing to do with patterns."

***************************************

Assassinator, this answer is not for you.  You have made up your
mind.  Since this site is hostel to ID, I welcome PM's and I hope
someone mentions this thread to their loved ones and give them the directions
to it.  That goes for informing the media also.

Zero


< http://blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/words.pl?word=the+father >

Word Search Results for "the father"
666 verses below:

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# 1 (first)

Gen 4:20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father
of such as dwell in tents, and [of such as have] cattle.

By chance, G x O x D (7 x 15 x 4) = 420

# 666 (last)

666.Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed
in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the
book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father,
and before his angels.

By chance, "I will not blot out his name" is stated in the last
mention of 'father'.  We were searching for a name.

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pattern:

By chance, even the Holy of Holys, the middle of heaven,  the family of God,
the trinity of God, (father of all living, mother of all living, and
first child of all living), the chariot of the cherubims ( the chariot
of Israel, and the horsemen thereof ), has a pattern:

Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it].

Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount.

1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD.

2Ki 2:12 And Elisha saw [it], and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

2Ki 13:14 Now Elisha was fallen sick of his sickness whereof he died. And Joash the king of Israel came down unto him, and wept over his face, and said, O my father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


Exd 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims [of] gold, [of] beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.


Exd 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: [even] of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.


Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces [shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. (symmetry, my remark)

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

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Great news: God's wife is pregnant!

Who’s gonna have the baby shower?

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, [that] whoso will not come up of [all] the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
John 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world."

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou [that] didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou [that] didst not travail with child: for more [are] the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass (AZ, first and last,my note), and upon a colt the foal of an
ass (AZ, first and last, my note). (A chip off the Ol block.)

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

(OOPS!  There goes separation of church and state.)

Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (She's a stay-at-home mom.)
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 07 2007,08:29



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Assassinator, this answer is not for you.  You have made up your
mind.
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That's what you say, but it's simply not true. You should watch the movie 23 with Jim Carrey (he's playing a serious role in that movie) and see the rediculousness of your "patterns" in the Bible. I won't even begin about how many serious Biblical scholars would say your ideas are bullcrap. It has nothing to do with science, you're making your own answers. You're quoting one site, why would I trust them?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,08:52

Assassinator:
"It has nothing to do with science You're quoting one site, why would I trust them?"

Then study science.  Every living thing is symmetrical, like
the center of heaven.  It has a fold in the middle.

Edit/
Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice;
and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.


Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 07 2007,09:28

Sorry, that's a lie. You've also got radial symmetry next to bilateral symmetry. It would be nice if you would actually know something about biology. Besides, the fact that those symmetry's exist doesn't say anything, that's been observed for ages. You're not saying anything with it, nor is your Bible quote.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,10:31

Assassinator"

" It would be nice if you would actually know something about biology."

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See, I do:

What do you call a fish without an "eye"?  
I don't know how to pronounce it but it's spelled Fsh.

Why was a mushroom the life of the party?  He was a fungi.


< http://flickr.com/groups/32274736@N00/ >

radial+symmetry
One entry found for radial symmetry.
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< http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/radial+symmetry >

Main Entry: radial symmetry
Function: noun
: the condition of having similar parts regularly arranged around a central axis
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< http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/radial+symmetry >
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There are an infinite number of directions, parts of degrees, around
a point or circle.
There are an infinite number of axis and plains in a sphere.
Each plain inside a sphere forms a circle.
A sphere is the only thing in reality that appears the same shape
from any direction.  IMO, that's why we live on one.  We sure
are fascinated with them in sports.  Here in life, O is real.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 07 2007,10:46



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What do you call a fish without an "eye"?  
I don't know how to pronounce it but it's spelled Fsh.
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Why was a mushroom the life of the party?  He was a fungi.
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Haha, good one's. Mellow humor, gotta love it.


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
There are an infinite number of directions, parts of degrees, around
a point or circle.
There are an infinite number of axis and plains in a sphere.
Each plain inside a sphere forms a circle.
A sphere is the only thing in reality that appears the same shape
from any direction.  IMO, that's why we live on one.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


It has to do with gravity, if you really want to know. That
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,11:06

"It has to do with gravity, if you really want to know."

I've seen the astronauts play catch in the
International Space Station as well, for what
it's worth.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 07 2007,11:32

Yeap, and don't forget the fun with globes of water in zero G, it stays fun :P
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,12:07

The shuttle is coming in in 10 minutes, which reminds me
of a cooincidence a few years back, I've not written about:

I had been converseing on a fundamentalest's site, The Highwaymen,
for a couple of weeks, when I stated some things I thought
were profound.  It was the morning of the shuttle return.
I was informed that I was banned.  
At the same moment, the suttle broke apart over Texas.

1:02 the shuttle is down safely.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 07 2007,18:55

Moved from the 3rd page of the Disco "Legal Scholars" thread

Grafitti moved manually to This page of the Bathroom Wall

hereoisreal, keep your numerological/mystical/mythological musings to your own thread or The Bathroom Wall.  This thread is for the discussion of the Disco "Legal Scholars" Investigating Judgment Day.

Thanks,

Lou FCD
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Steve,

My post was not about " numerological/mystical/mythological musings"
It was about lawyers. They were and still are mentioned in the 'Legal'
thread.  The only number I mentioned was "one empty seat".
Who is Lou thanking and why?
Lou, are you a lawyer?  If I was one,I think I
might consider another profession before
'Judgment Day'.
PM me if you prefer.

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What is a total disaster?   A bus load of lawyers going over
a cliff with one empty seat.

God hated lawyers too:

Luk 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, [ye] lawyers! for ye lade men with

burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one

of your fingers.

Luk 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge:

ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Luk 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it

lawful to heal on the sabbath day?

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2007,08:56

O live

Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives,
the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us,
when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign  
of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:30  And then shall appear the sign
of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the
tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son
of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

It bugs the hell out of me when someone dies
and the preacher tries to comfort the relatives
by saying, "They've gone to a better place."
I requested specifically that he not say that
at my father's service.  Afterwards, another
close relative came up to me and said,
"Don't worry. He's gone to a better place."

Act 1:9 ¶ And when he had spoken these things,
while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud
received him out of their sight.
Act 1:10  And while they looked stedfastly toward
heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by
them in white apparel;
Act 1:11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,
why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus,
which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come
in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Act 1:12 ¶ Then returned they unto Jerusalem from
the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem
a sabbath day's journey.

Jesus left from Mt Olive and he's coming
back to Mt Olive.

A sign:

Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening;
and, lo, in her mouth [was] an olive leaf pluckt off:
so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth

Lev 24:2 Command the children of Israel, that
they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light,
to cause the lamps to burn continually.  

1Ki 6:23 And within the oracle he made two cherubims
[of] olive tree, [each] ten cubits high.
1Ki 6:31 And for the entering of the oracle he
made doors [of] olive tree: the lintel [and] side
posts [were] a fifth part [of the wall].

1Ki 6:32 The two doors also [were of] olive tree;
and he carved upon them carvings of cherubims
and palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid
[them] with gold, and spread gold upon the cherubims,
and upon the palm trees.


Zec 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right [side]
of the bowl, and the other upon the left [side] thereof.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him,
What [are] these two olive trees upon the right
[side] of the candlestick and upon the left [side] thereof?

Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him,
What [be these] two olive branches which through
the two golden pipes empty the golden [oil] out of themselves?

Rev 11:3  And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and]
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two
candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

A better place

Rev 12:7 ¶ And there was war in heaven: Michael
and his angels fought against the dragon; and the
dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8  And prevailed not; neither was their place
found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9  And the great dragon was cast out,
that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast
out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

When someone in heaven noticed that Satan was gone,
they asked God, "Where's Satan?'
He replied, "He's gone to a better place."

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God is a trinity
One family
Father of all living, Mother of all living, and Child of all living.
God and two witnesses:

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Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
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Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two
candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

I AM  THAT  I AM

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between
the two cherubims which [are] upon the ark of the
testimony, of all [things] which I will give thee in
commandment unto the children of Israel.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2007,16:54

Irreducibly Complex Systems:

There is an analogy between the following systems.  They do the job.
They’re intelligently designed, sort of  like a ways and means committee.
You can’t learn much about one by looking at the other two.

heart, soul & mind
heart, sole & mind
way, truth & life
kingdom, power & glory
trap, bait & baitor
car, gas & driver

edit/added:

< http://cedros.globat.com/~thebrites.org/News/JunkYard.html >

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 08 2007,17:58

Where is your soul?

Job 12:7 But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee;
and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
Job 12:8  Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee:
and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
Job 12:9  Who knoweth not in all these that the hand
of the LORD hath wrought this?
Job 12:10  In whose hand [is] the soul of every living thing,
and the breath of all mankind.

According to God, it’s in his hands.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 09 2007,06:07

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Jesus said, "The first will be last."

If you take the first letter in 'Eden' and place it last,
at the end, you now have 'Dene'.

It's ironic that the whites were thrown out of Eden
and the blacks out of Dene's.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 09 2007,14:57

When pigs fly

Mat 8:28 ¶ And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

Mar 5:2  And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

"When pigs fly!" someone in the crowd shouted, when
Jesus said he could cure the man or men possessed with devils.
Some said there were two men and others said one, but anyway,
there were a bunch of devils, a hell of a lot of devils.  
"My name [is] Legion: for we are many."

I know.  I was there.  Jesus leaned over and whispered softly,  "Now just circle around the cemetary a couple of times and head for the sea.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 09 2007,16:58

My wife had mentioned to me several times, "Your billfold is too thick.
We need to go through it and take out all the old and unuseable cards."
So two days ago we did just that.
Yesterday, our handyman came by so my wife went in the bedroom,
to her purse for money.  When she found none, she lifted the weight she had
placed on my billfold to press it down, and removed some cash.
In a few minutes after she returned, the conversation turned to health.
The handyman said,  "I don't know what is wrong with my hip.
Lately it's been sore.  It could be because my billfold is too fat.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 10 2007,15:20

The whole story of creation, from the beginning to end:



                                Beginning

Once upon a time, the earth was without form, and void;
and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep.


                                Middle


And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
(A lot of ups and downs)


                                             

                                End

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The rest of the story: It's not over til tha
fat lady (pregnant wife) sings.  Rev. 12:5
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Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.
Zec 14:9  And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. (shepherd, my notation)
Zec 14:10  All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate  unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of  Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
Zec 14:11  And [men] shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
Rev 22:3  And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Rev 22:4  And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads.
Rev 22:5  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 11 2007,05:55

Adam was blind when he named all the animals.
The reason he call one 'Ella' was because she
had her tail in the front.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 11 2007,06:58

The human eye is a miracle.  Light travels through an inch of
matter which is totally transparent,  turns it upside down
and backwards and projects it on a wall in the back.
This wall has millions of tiny machines called rods and cones
which converts light into pixels which are bundled into a TV cable
and sent  to a TV that turns the signals back to the same picture
coming into the eye.
This whole process is done twice to give you 3DTV.
This is projected on a big HD screen  in your livingroom.
Your HD surround sound comes in from two different
directions through two different cables.
It's easy to change channels, just turn your head.
Five more cables also are wired in to give more realism:
Another two from your ears (balance), and then three more
for taste, smell, and feel.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 12 2007,10:45

The kingdom of heaven is NI.

First = I
Last = N
Jesus said the last will be first and the first last.
The remainder equals the last minus the first:
5 = 14 - 9
E = N - I
E = N - (C squared)

Eienstein almost got it right.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 12 2007,11:18

The writing on the bathroom wall:

MENE, MENE (37, 37)

Thy kingdom is divided:

fold = 37 (cg)

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
[and] one shepherd.

One fold of 'Jesus' = 37

Psa 37:37  Mark the perfect [man], and behold the upright:
for the end of [that] man [is] peace.

Dan 5:24  Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
Dan 5:25 ¶ And this [is] the writing that was written, MENE, MENE,TEKEL,UPHARSIN.
Dan 5:26  This [is] the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.
Dan 5:27  TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
Dan 5:28  PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 13 2007,07:20

Treasures in heaven:

Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven,
where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where
thieves do not break through nor steal:

1Ki 7:51 So was ended all the work that king Solomon
made for the house of the LORD. And Solomon brought
in the things which David his father had dedicated; [even]
the silver, and the gold, and the vessels, did he put among
the treasures of the house of the LORD.

2Ch 5:1 Thus all the work that Solomon made for the house
of the LORD was finished: and Solomon brought in [all] the
things that David his father had dedicated; and the silver, and
the gold, and all the instruments, put he among the treasures
of the house of God.

Seems like things take on a whole new meaning when they
are made by someone we know and love.  Among other
treasures, my home is full of my mother's paintings she
created years ago.
Would I sell them?  To me, they are priceless jewels.
Life is about family and home, in that order.


Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the
LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written
before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Mal 3:17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts,
in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them,
as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 13 2007,21:30

The *wedge* is not a dividing force, but a gap
filler of 9 degrees:

Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2007,13:07

Saving eight:

On a scale of zero to eight, here is the
starting point for time, size, and direction.

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2007,15:01

One flaming sword (it) is enough:

Gen 3:24  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east
of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which
turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Luk 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords.

And he said unto them, It is enough.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2007,20:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 31 2007,11:50)
(1)    God x God x God  ............................................ =    47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................... =    47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................ =    47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............ =    47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
       x (Eve x 22)..................................................... =    47,900,160
       Eve, the mother of all living, x 22 = God
       Eve, the mother of all living, + 22 = God
       Eve + v (22) might look like ‘Ewe’ as in ‘Ewe 12'
      ‘U 12' (2112) = 3 x 704 (God)
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ..=     47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ........................................ =     47,900,160
      704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54).................... =      47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ....................... =       47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ......................................... =      47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12......................  =       47,900,160
        (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................ =     47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).......................... =     47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God)........... =     47,900,160
(15)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ... ....=     47,160,900

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5 & Psa 2:9

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(16)  (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 = 47,900,160

In Zec. 9:9, I see 'ass' as 'AZ'. First & Last

Zec 9:9  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


When I inadvertently made a mistake in my
math at *Good Math, Bad Math*, I was
notified in a heart beat.
So far, on this thread, that hasn't happened.
Either mine's right or no one cares.
I'm pickled tink.

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 14 2007,23:13

Here, O is real:

The beginning and end + O = God
The first and last + O = God
The alpha and omega + O = God

Word + O = 70 weeks

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 16 2007,13:03



The trinity of God

The family of God

The first Family: father of all living, child of all living, and mother of all living,
(Jesus, Christ, and  Eve, the tree of life)

A treasure hidden in a field.

Also 11 hidden in 111

Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

Tightusville,the miracle city. A CD on a HIL (CHILD) can knot. (Be hid)

Leaven hidden in three measures

How God armed a Gideon for the battle of Armageddon:

Jdg 7:16 And he divided the three hundred men [into] three companies,

Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts,

Paradise (pair rode AZ) ( king, AZ, and foal ) LK 23:43

AZ is Alpha and omega, beginning and end, first and last

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

I will paraphrase Zec 9:9:

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding upon an (AZ), and upon a colt the foal of an (AZ).

The Ark (right, left, and middle).
The chariot of Israel (1) and the horsemen thereof.(2)
God, Jesus, and God (AZ)
God plus two =  One family
God plus two = you12 ( 3 x God, U- 12, ewe 12, 11 hidden in 3 measures, or 1 through 12)
God and 2 candlesticks:
God and 2 olive branches that pour golden oil:. Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
God and 2 witnesses   Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

God and 2 thieves:   Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Jesus + two Os  (GOOD):   Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver
.
2 cherubims and one flameing sword:
Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
           
Exd 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat [of] pure gold: two
cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit
and a half the breadth thereof.

Exd 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims [of] gold, [of] beaten
work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

Exd 25:19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other
cherub on the other end: [even] of the mercy seat shall ye make
the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

Exd 25:20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth [their] wings
on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces
[shall look] one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces
of the cherubims be.

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims
which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will
give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Exd 26:34 And thou shalt put the mercy seat upon the ark of the testimony in the most holy [place]

Num 7:89 And when Moses was gone into the tabernacle of the congregation to speak
with him, then he heard the voice of one speaking unto him from off the mercy seat that [was] upon the ark of testimony, from between the two cherubims: and he spake unto him.

Zero

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Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 16 2007,15:27

Quote (Kristine @ Nov. 04 2007,20:50)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 28 2007,08:51)
Kristine, did you ever see a trap that wasn't designed?
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Yes.

It's called a venus flytrap.

Also quicksand.

Also a cat [mousetrap]. Etc.

A surrealist poet - anticlerical minds all - once wrote a poem beginning, "Once not upon a time..." ;)
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Kristine, Paul's gospel, *God killed his son
for our sins.* was the bait.

Paul's gospel:

Gal 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach
any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached
unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any
other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

An angel from heaven's gospel:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven,
having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell
on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The everlasting gospel:

Always was. Always is. Always will be.

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Zero
Posted by: BWE on Nov. 16 2007,23:53

< Starting here > zero, your discussion on the PBS ID show forum actually makes sense. Why? Or, maybe why there? I feel like we're friends since you've quoted me in your sig and I've always liked surreality so it's ok asking you that.

Are you similar to Dharma's dad on Dharma and Greg (the tv show)? Do you play guitar? Have you ever had a pony tail? How many times have you taken hallucinogens (LSD, Mushrooms, Peyote etc.)?

Cause I feel like this thread is like showing up sober to friends' apartment when they've all dropped and they want to talk to you.

You caught that atheist out. He saw scripture and thought he was dealing with a fundy. Nice work. My hat is off to you.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 17 2007,06:51

Thanks, BWE, it took a year for some one to
really talk to me here, and I respect you for that.

I posted the trinity item on NOVA and titled it:
*A picture of the intelligent designer's family*
The mods pulled it in about 30 minutes so I
snuke it in on another one of my threads.

It's coincidential or odd that you mentioned
*atheist*.  When I clicked on his name, I got
a worm, bug, cookie or something.  I had to
shut down and run some software I bought
to clean up.

Thanks really, Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 17 2007,12:13

Day before yesterday, I went to Publix for a few items.
As I reached for my wallet to pay, I remarked to the
pretty young clerk, "You need to be patient with us
old folks.", just to make conversation.
She waited a moment and then replied, "Sir, you're trying
to swipe your driver's license.”
Thirty minutes later, I’m home, breaking down three humming
bird feeders on the kitchen counter to clean and refill.
Then after putting them all back together, I was astonished to
find a part left over.  I finally realized, it was my wife’s
food chopper lid.

Zero
Posted by: BWE on Nov. 17 2007,15:31

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 17 2007,06:51)
Thanks, BWE, it took a year for some one to
really talk to me here, and I respect you for that.
...

Thanks really, Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Zero, what do you suppose people could possibly say to you?

You appear to be batshit crazy in a fun kind of way. I read your posts and even enjoy them but not because they make any sense. I also enjoy Lewis Carrol for much the same reasons. If, in all your ramblings, your point is simply that God isn't in the bible or that life is good then great. What kind of response do you expect? No, life isn't good?

You redefined God as far as I can tell and your definition seems sufficiently abstract that it isn't particularly controversial. On the other hand, it isn't particularly intelligible either.

Are you actually interested in dialog?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 17 2007,22:17

BWE, would I have stuck around for a year if I wasn't?

My wife came home from  the beauty shop.
I asked, "What did you do to your hair?  It looks
like a wig."
She said, 'It is a wig."
I replied,"You'd never know it."

Edit/ADD:

When I post:
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God

I'm both disapointed and astonished that no one
asks, "How can this be?"

Edit/add/again:

Eve is hidden in heaven.
&
Eve is hidden in leaven.
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 18 2007,06:59

@BWE:
Don't bother, he thinks he owns a blog here or something. Things like


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


simply do not make sense, it's bullcrap. I discuss with biblical scholars every day, they laugh at stuff like this.
There is no way you could engage in a meaningfull dialog with heroisreal, he doesn't even realise he doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 18 2007,07:24

Assassinator, you're new here.  If you go back
to page one, you'll find I was given this thread
by Steve for my ramblings.

Eve (32) x 22 = 704 (God)
Eve (32) + 22 = 54 (Love)

God x Love = 2/3 of the trinity:

47,900,160
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 18 2007,07:27

See what I mean BWE?

But ok, so this is your personal place to make yourself ridiculous, goodluck with it.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 18 2007,07:52

I opened this E this morning:

Edit/The link he posted doesn't reach my site.
The proper link is   < http://www.hereoisreal.com >
*******************************
Hereoisreal

You’ll like this one. I followed the link to < http://www.hereoisreal.com/index2.htm. >

I read a couple of the “God encounters” while thinking to myself about how God has spoken to me through music throughout my life. I am a gifted musician, and have served in the music ministry for a good number of years at different churches including where we are now. My wife is a gifted teacher (she teaches in public school) and also serves in the teaching ministry at our Church.

Anyway, I was reading some of the encounters you had , I started to think about my own encounters through music, and wondered if you had any similar kinds of encounters, I grabbed the mouse, clicked on the scroll bar, dragged it down to somewhere close near the bottom and let it go randomly, guess where the page stopped scrolling? MUSIC IS A GIFT OF GOD

This greatly added to my enjoyment of reading your God encounters.



Regards, Brent Mortimer
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 18 2007,10:32

"I discuss with biblical scholars every day, they laugh at stuff like this."
**********************************************************

Of course, that's what God told Daniel  they would do.


Dan 12:7  And I heard the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river, when he held up

his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that [it shall be] for a

time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all

these [things] shall be finished.

Dan 12:8  And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these

[things]?

Dan 12:9  And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the

end.

Dan 12:10  Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none

of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Dan 12:11  And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that

maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Rev 11:3  And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred

[and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:11  And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood

upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
Rev 11:12  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they

ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

I'm amazed that, what it's taken a life time for me to learn, you can decide in 3 minutes
is crazy.

The word *GOD* can say, "seven circles folded once" ( one fold, or divided by 2)
7 x 360/2 = 1260
God (704) x Love (54) x 1260 = 47,900,160

Zero
Posted by: BWE on Nov. 18 2007,14:52

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 18 2007,06:59)
@BWE:
Things like


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


simply do not make sense, it's bullcrap. I discuss with biblical scholars every day, they laugh at stuff like this.
There is no way you could engage in a meaningfull dialog with heroisreal, he doesn't even realise he doesn't make any sense.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Most people who don't make sense don't realize they don't make sense. While I agree with your assessment that, from an academic frame of reference, zero appears to be sensically-challenged, I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment that it's bullcrap. Obviously, whatever it is zero is trying to communicate to us through his cryptic parables and other-dimensional math makes sense to him. I challenge you to find a single statement by our trans-experiential visitor that you can point to as refutable using our frame of reference.

Zero is remarkably like an acid trip. I can't discount his ideas because I am obviously not on his wavelength. Just because you can't explain what you understood when you were high doesn't mean it wasn't profound. Nor does it mean that others even could understand sans-ergot fungus derivative.

I discuss biblical scholars with scientists nearly every day. They laugh at biblical scholars. Why limit yourself to one silly book?  

When people make claims that disagree with an agreed upon reality, that's one thing. Usually you can find some kind of disturbing authoritarian POV, simple brainwashing or else an intent to deceive. All of these fit in our mutually understood realities though. What zero is talking about, as far as I can tell anyway, does not. He appears to be describing a reality to which most of us are not privy and would likely not be able to maintain could we attain it at all.

Therefore, if I am relatively close in my assessment, I would argue that he is making perfect sense. But the only one who can decipher his alphabet is himself.

When seen through that kind of a lens, his posts are at least interesting if not super useful to the rest of us.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 18 2007,17:11

BWE:
"Therefore, if I am relatively close in my assessment, I would argue that he is making perfect sense. But the only one who can decipher his alphabet is himself."

******************************************
Only the sons of *Zadok* will serve the Lord's table:

kod az (The code is AZ) Simple:

A =1, B=2, C=3,.......Z = 26 (God)
Jesus (74) + 'nothing in me' = 704
Love = 54
hot=43
cold=34
christ=77



Eze 44:15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:
Eze 48:11  [It shall be] for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of Zadok; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray.
***************************8

BWE:
"When seen through that kind of a lens, his posts are at least interesting if not super useful to the rest of
us."
****************************************
The whole picture:

When one looks at a checker board too close, it looks like one color, either black, white, or gray (the fine grey line between b&w).
When one looks from too far away, it only appears gray.

Zero
Posted by: BWE on Nov. 18 2007,18:22

Seriously zero, have you ever taken acid, psilocybin bearing mushrooms or peyote?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 18 2007,18:48

That's why the mushroom was the life of the party.
He was a fungi.

Eze 44:15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:
Eze 48:11  [It shall be] for the priests that are sanctified of the sons of Zadok; which have kept my charge, which went not astray when the children of Israel went astray, as the Levites went astray.

Only the sons of *Zadok* will serve the Lord's table:

kod az (The code is AZ) Simple:

A =1, B=2, C=3,.......Z = 26 (God)
Jesus (74) + 'nothing in me' = 704
Love = 54
hot=43
cold=34
christ=77
a + b + c + d + e + f + g + h + i + j + k + l = 78 (3 x God)
1 x 2  x 3 x 4  x 5 x 6 x 7 x 8 x 9 x 10 x 11 x 12 = 479,001,600 (one is a decimal)
10 % belongs to God (704 x 54 x 1260)



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 19 2007,20:24

From NOVA:

zipedity2007 posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:05 pm:  Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias

In so many words, Intelligent Design is a perfect example of what is called, "Fuzzy Science". A theory is

presented with absolutely no facts or evidence to support it, other than, "this is what we believe"...period.

The creationists or Intelligent Designers (actually the same belief) are phoney charlatans who are attempting

to invalidate science to push their political agenda as prescribed by the "Wedge" document. Intelligent

Design as is creationism is a political tool being used to insert religion into public school. What this is, is

nothing but politcs in action.

I for one, am glad the Intelligent Designers lost when they came up against a mountain range of evidence

that supported evolution.

There is NO left wing bias only the facts defeated the Intelligent Designers.
*******************************************
Zero posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias    

*wedge*

Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

The wedge is nine degrees and is not a divider.
It is a gap filler.

Eze 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before

me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.


Did you here about the man who lost his left side?

He's all right now.

*****************************************
zipedity2007 wrote:

Ahem, and your point is...?

****************************************
Zero  Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias    

My point is:

The hedge is the wedge. It completes a circle. 351 plus 9 degrees.

I know you don't understand, but I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Zero


******************************************

Florida Today newspaper headline, this morning (next day):




Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 19 2007,20:55

Story number 8 at < http://www.hereoisreal.com >

FILL THE GAP
         One day in the hangar, I was thinking and searching for answers.  Ezekiel 22:30 had made a big impression on me when I'd started going to church.  I'd read the scripture that said, basically, "I looked for a man to fill the gap, and I found none", and I had asked the Lord, "Was there some way that I could help?  Was there anything that, as a man, I could do? What was the purpose of my creation?  Was I some kind of a toy, or was I precious in God's sight?"  I began to wonder, "Maybe there is some kind of a gap between man and God."  Then, I asked, "Lord, is there a gap?  Is there really a gap?  Do you need a man to fill a gap?  You said it in scripture."  I said, "Lord, if there is a gap, can I help?  Is there any way I can help?"  Just at that moment, the mechanic that worked next to me shouted out, "Hey, Archie, would you help me close the gap in this door?"  There was a three-foot-wide gap in the hangar doors that he wanted me to help close, because the wind was blowing in.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 20 2007,07:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 19 2007,20:24)
From NOVA:

zipedity2007 posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:05 pm:  Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias

In so many words, Intelligent Design is a perfect example of what is called, "Fuzzy Science". A theory is

presented with absolutely no facts or evidence to support it, other than, "this is what we believe"...period.

The creationists or Intelligent Designers (actually the same belief) are phoney charlatans who are attempting

to invalidate science to push their political agenda as prescribed by the "Wedge" document. Intelligent

Design as is creationism is a political tool being used to insert religion into public school. What this is, is

nothing but politcs in action.

I for one, am glad the Intelligent Designers lost when they came up against a mountain range of evidence

that supported evolution.

There is NO left wing bias only the facts defeated the Intelligent Designers.
*******************************************
Zero posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias    

*wedge*

Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

The wedge is nine degrees and is not a divider.
It is a gap filler.

Eze 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before

me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.


Did you here about the man who lost his left side?

He's all right now.

*****************************************
zipedity2007 wrote:

Ahem, and your point is...?

****************************************
Zero  Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias    

My point is:

The hedge is the wedge. It completes a circle. 351 plus 9 degrees.

I know you don't understand, but I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Zero


******************************************

Florida Today newspaper headline, this morning (next day):




Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


hereoisreal:

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Unreal left wing bias

< http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtop....tart=90 >

*************************************
stevestory:

 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2007,18:10

< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....2;st=90 >
*************************************

My point is:

Steve posted 50 minutes before me on another site.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 20 2007,07:33

Hell met law

I have a coffee cup that has a drawing of a sheep running towards a fan.
Printed beneath is: “The sheep is gonna hit the fan.”  Inside the lip it
cautions, “stay cool”

I said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hell without law and order.
When hell meets the law, the shit will hit the fan." (Please pardon the language but that's exactly what I said. It's part of the story.)

The next morning, after making some notes about what I had said, I walked outside and picked  up my newspaper.  The front page top headline read,
"Helmet Law Enforcement Begins".
I saved the paper.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 20 2007,10:00

WayOfTheDodo wrote:
hereoisreal:

Why doesn't God heal amputees?
******************************

Ask him. If he did, you'd probably complain about the next worst thing in life.
If Margrett Mitchel had left out all the war, struggles, and hate in *Gone
With The Wind*, it would not have been a best seller.
*War & Peace* without war is just peace, peace, & peace
In the *Book Of Life*, between 'Once upon a time' and 'and they all lived happily ever after', there are a lot of ups and downs.

The whole story of creation, from the beginning to end:



                             Beginning

Once upon a time, the earth was without form, and void;
and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep.

                              Middle


And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
(A lot of ups and downs)                                          

                              End

The rest of the story: It's not over til the fat lady (pregnant wife) sings.

The intelligent designer, her husband, said in John 16:21:

" A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world."

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou [that] didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou [that] didst not travail with child: for more [are] the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an AZ, and upon a colt the foal of an AZ. (A chip off the Ol block.)

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it], and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

It's all about family.

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Zec 14:9  And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. (shepherd, my notation)

Zec 14:10  All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from  Benjamin's gate  unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of  Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

Zec 14:11  And [men] shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
Rev 22:3  And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Rev 22:4  And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads.
Rev 22:5  And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

And they all lived happily ever after.

********************************
God’s foot stool

Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

I posted the above on some discussion boards during
the day. That night my wife and I went to see the play, Gypsy.
During the middle, a landlord, Mr. Goldstone, was being patronized. One of the actors got down on his all-fours and Rose placed Mr. Goldstone's feet on the actor's back. (A gold stone is what the lid to the Ark is
made from...one hunk of gold)

2Ch 9:18 And [there were] six steps to the throne, with a footstool of gold, [which were] fastened to the throne, and stays on each side.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 21 2007,08:22

From NOVA:

Science is based on faith:
"We're on the right track and we can prove it.
We're going backwards at a high rate of speed and
although the road has a lot of hills and curves, we
believe there's light near the end of the tunnel.
We will keep on driving till we find the end,
I mean the beginning, or hit a brick wall."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 21 2007,09:35

Here's a 4,000 year old mystery:

Dan 12:8  And I heard, but I understood not: then said I,
O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things]?
Dan 12:9  And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words
[are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Mat 21:28  But what think ye? A [certain] man had two sons;
and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29  He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30  And he came to the second, and said likewise.
And he answered and said, I [go], sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31  Whether of them twain did the will of [his] father?  They say unto him,
The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the
harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

Put yourself in the father's shoes.
You have two young sons.  One is named Malachi and the other Micky.
Your wife is in the hospital having just delivered your first beautiful baby girl.
You sit down to breakfast and  say to the boys, "Now eat your cerial."
The first said, "I won't." but finally did.  It was not his favorite.
The other said, "I will." but didn't.  He wasn't hungry.

Which one obeyed you?  
If you answer, you will be one of the last
to enter the gates of heaven.
It doesn't matter.  They're both your sons.

Life is about family and home, and those
forgiven most will love most.
Edit/add Love your kids with all your heart and
try to provide a safe home.

*************************************

Mother Superior said to the nun, "Everything
has gone wrong today. I must have got up on
the wrong side of the bed."
The nun replied, "Well, you might have Mother.
You've got the Father's shoes on."

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 21 2007,17:04

...and we have a thread for Heroisameal because....???
Posted by: Wesley R. Elsberry on Nov. 21 2007,17:14

I'm not sure. I think you should ask Steve...
Posted by: Richardthughes on Nov. 21 2007,17:50

I think hero is a nice guy deep down. He's just caught up in his numerology thing, which isn't good. Hero, there are only 10 digits and millions of ways of looking after things. There's going to be loads of coincidences..
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,07:00

Quote (Richardthughes @ Nov. 21 2007,17:50)
I think hero is a nice guy deep down. He's just caught up in his numerology thing, which isn't good. Hero, there are only 10 digits and millions of ways of looking after things. There's going to be loads of coincidences..
---------------------QUOTE-------------------




"I think hero is a nice guy deep down."

Richard, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Yes, there are ways of looking at things.  There
are an infinite number of directions, real numbered
directions, around one plane through a sphere or
point.  There are an infinite number of axis of
yaw, pitch, and roll in any one plane of a sphere.
It's sort of like infinity cubed.

Or;

88 x 8 turned 90 degrees.

Yes coincidences continue to happen.  Here are
a few I haven't mentioned before:

***********************************
Coincidence?

I thought, "God, that's just a small coincidence, finding a golf story
on the front of the paper and another on the back."

The next week I found a golfer leading a tournament on the front page and a fisherman leading a tournament on the back page. They both had the same name.

I asked my wife, "Should I call him 'Bill' or 'William' Johnson?", as I picked up the phone to dial.  I glanced at a headline of the newspaper in front of me where William Johnson was named.

An 80 year old lady driving a 94 Buick turned left into oncoming traffic and was killed in Port St Johns by a 94 Buick.

A young girl was killed when a driver swerved all the way to the sidewalk on
Clearlake Dr in Cocoa.  Two or three years before, her mother was hit and
killed a block or so away.

Two sisters hit head on and both killed as they  were driving to the other's home.

Twins, a brother and sister, were both killed in a car crash on the evening of their 21st birthday.

ON the right side of the Florida Today paper, there was a story about a rapist who had cut off the arms of his victim.  After getting out of prison, he was living on the west coast of Florida and no one wanted him there.
On the left, was another story of  a young girl also losing both her arms by violence.

1Ki 20:30 But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; and [there] a wall fell upon twenty and seven thousand of the men [that were] left. And Benhadad fled, and came into the city, into an inner chamber.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,10:05

Mat 21:28  But what think ye? A [certain] man had two sons;
and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
Mat 21:29  He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
Mat 21:30  And he came to the second, and said likewise.
And he answered and said, I [go], sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31  Whether of them twain did the will of [his] father?  They say unto him,
The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the
harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

Put yourself in the father's shoes.
You have two young sons.  One is named Malachi and the other Micky.
Your wife is in the hospital having just delivered your first beautiful baby girl.
You sit down to breakfast and  say to the boys, "Now eat your cerial."
The first said, "I won't." but finally did.  It was not his favorite.
The other said, "I will." but didn't.  He wasn't hungry.

Which one obeyed you?  
If you answer, you will be one of the last
to enter the gates of heaven.
It doesn't matter.  They're both your sons.

Life is about family and home, and those
forgiven most will love most.
Love your kids with all your heart and
try to provide a safe home.


Here's another story:

Luk 15:11 And he said, A certain man had two sons:

One stayed home, the other left home, went to heaven, then hell,

then came back home.

Which one did the father's will?

Think about it.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,10:33

Richard,

Celestial Navigation, a lot of math, was the only course I flunked in Naval Flight
School back in 1954-55.  I had to stay another week in Pre-flight to finally pass.

I'm the dark one on the left with Miss St Louis of '54.
Miss Japan with her Chaperon is on the right.

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,11:41

God said, " I have seen a lot of bad things in my time, but this takes the cake,...  men leaning against the temple wall worshipping the sun."

Eze 8:12  Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.
Eze 8:13 ¶ He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, [and] thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Eze 8:14  Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which [was] toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Eze 8:15 ¶ Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen [this], O son of man? turn thee yet again, [and] thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16  And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, [were] about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,12:17

The land......secretly bought.

Mat 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure
hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth,
and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.


The foundation....secretly laid

Ezr 6:3 In the first year of Cyrus the king [the same] Cyrus the king made a decree [concerning] the house of God at Jerusalem, Let the house be builded, the place where they offered sacrifices, and let the foundations thereof be strongly laid; the height thereof threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof threescore cubits;

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Rev 21:14  And the wall of the city had twelve foundations,
and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

The temple.....secretly built

1Ki 6:7 And the house, when it was in building, was built
of stone made ready before it was brought thither: so that
there was neither hammer nor axe [nor] any tool of iron
heard in the house, while it was in building.

Why was everything, brought from all over the known world, made to fit perfectly?  Coincidence?

So they could be as quite as church mice while building "it".

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,12:26

Is this a great country are not?
We drive on the parkway and park on the driveway.

But why do they make M&Ms sooo hard to peal?

Zero
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Nov. 22 2007,13:17


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,15:18

Jesus said, "The first will be last."
So everyone names their church:

The First Baptist Church, The First...well you know.

The blonde said, "Look at that beautiful sunset.
Looks just like a big ball of fire!"

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 22 2007,19:07

This was a comment I wrote simular to the one
I had with Wes a while back, to be posted on
Amazon.com. When I learned that I had to buy
something to post, I declined.
*****************************

The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence In Biological Systems

"the source of that functional information is a designing intelligence."

Finding out 'what' about life, is not going to tell anyone anything about 'who, where, how, when, or why.'
Will science be satisfied with only 'what'.
By taking a model T apart, one will find that everything fit for a reason, but you'll not find out much about the designer.  Certainly not, what he looks like, how old he is, where his home is, how many
kids he has, or what he does in his spare time.  Maybe, you'll come to a decision that, who ever he is,
he has made his machine for some purpose other than to be used as a tie clasp or paper weight.
But an automobile is not IC.  It is designed for a purpose and it takes two other parts to accomplish that.
One is a tank of gas and the other is a driver.  Neither has to look like Mr. Ford.  

Life is about family and home, in that order.  Check out the 342 stories at  http://www.hereoisreal.com

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 24 2007,21:02

Coincidence?

(Since I am posting this information, it may not be true from now on.)

For the record:

Of the thousands of people who have hit my web site
in the last three years, only two corresponded with me.  
Both described miracles that happened to them while they were reading.

Zero
Posted by: Kristine on Nov. 25 2007,01:30

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 16 2007,14:27)
 
Quote (Kristine @ Nov. 04 2007,20:50)
   
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 28 2007,08:51)
Kristine, did you ever see a trap that wasn't designed?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Yes.

It's called a venus flytrap.

Also quicksand.

Also a cat [mousetrap]. Etc.

A surrealist poet - anticlerical minds all - once wrote a poem beginning, "Once not upon a time..." ;)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Kristine, Paul's gospel, *God killed his son
for our sins.* was the bait.

Paul's gospel:

Gal 1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach
any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached
unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any
other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

An angel from heaven's gospel:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven,
having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell
on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

The everlasting gospel:

Always was. Always is. Always will be.

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I just come here to watch Zero's avatar. Hypnotic. Is there any cheese left?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,05:32

Kristine, when all the cheese is gone, we can
always use it as a tie clasp.

Edit/add:
Exd 28:28  And they shall bind the breastplate by the rings thereof unto the rings of the ephod with a lace of blue, that [it] may be above the curious girdle of the ephod, and that the breastplate be not loosed from the ephod.


Lov Ya, Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 25 2007,05:51

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 22 2007,16:18)
The blonde said, "Look at that beautiful sunset.
Looks just like a big ball of fire!"

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


 
Quote (The Lion King @ 24 June 1994)
Pumbaa: Timon, ever wonder what those sparkly dots are up there?
Timon: Pumbaa, I don't wonder; I know.
Pumbaa: Oh. What are they?
Timon: They're fireflies. Fireflies that, uh... got stuck up on that big bluish-black thing.
Pumbaa: Oh, gee. I always thought they were balls of gas burning billions of miles away.
Timon: Pumbaa, with you, everything's gas.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,06:49

Could be, Timon was a smart....I mean a fart smeller.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,07:25

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 22 2007,19:07)
This was a comment I wrote simular to the one
I had with Wes a while back, to be posted on
Amazon.com. When I learned that I had to buy
something to post, I declined.
*****************************

The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence In Biological Systems

"the source of that functional information is a designing intelligence."

Finding out 'what' about life, is not going to tell anyone anything about 'who, where, how, when, or why.'
Will science be satisfied with only 'what'.
By taking a model T apart, one will find that everything fit for a reason, but you'll not find out much about the designer.  Certainly not, what he looks like, how old he is, where his home is, how many
kids he has, or what he does in his spare time.  Maybe, you'll come to a decision that, who ever he is,
he has made his machine for some purpose other than to be used as a tie clasp or paper weight.
But an automobile is not IC.  It is designed for a purpose and it takes two other parts to accomplish that.
One is a tank of gas and the other is a driver.  Neither has to look like Mr. Ford.  

Life is about family and home, in that order.  Check out the 342 stories at  http://www.hereoisreal.com

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Who......Infinite Designer (God)
What.....Infinite Design  (Life)
Where...In the middle of infinity big & small. (here)
How..... And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  Gen 1:2
When...In the middle of eternity.
Why....A resting place.  Gen 2:2  And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Edit/add:  God's priority:
Day 1 he made heaven.  Gen 1:8
Day 2 he made earth.  Gen 1:9


Isa 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven [is] my throne, and the earth [is] my footstool: where [is] the house that ye build unto me? and where [is] the place of my rest?
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1Ch 28:2 Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: [As for me], I [had] in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building:

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2Ch 9:18 And [there were] six steps to the throne, with a footstool of gold, [which were] fastened to the throne, and stays on each side of the sitting place, and two lions standing by the stays:

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Psa 99:5 Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; [for] he [is] holy.

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Psa 132:7 We will go into his tabernacles: we will worship at his footstool.

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Lam 2:1 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, [and] cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!

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Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

God’s foot stool

Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

I posted the above on some discussion boards during
the day. That night my wife and I went to see the play, Gypsy.
During the middle, a landlord, Mr. Goldstone, was being patronized. One
of the actors got down on his all-fours and Rose placed Mr.
Goldstone's feet on the actor's back. (A gold stone is what the lid to the Ark is
made from...one hunk of gold)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,11:23

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 30 2007,21:27)
From page 9 of this thread:


Wedge strategy

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki....ocument >

Phillip E. Johnson:

"When I preach from the Bible, as I often do at churches and on Sundays, I don't

start with Genesis. I start with John 1:1. In the beginning was the word. In the

beginning was intelligence, purpose, and wisdom. The Bible had that right."
----------------------------------

Johnson cites the foundation of intelligent design is the Bible's Book of John,

specifically, John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God."

And to think, I was banned from UD for mentioning God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


---------------------------------------------------------------

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680) (63 x 360) (90% of 70 weeks)  John 1:1

1Ki 5:17 And the king commanded, and they brought great stones,
costly stones, [and] hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.

1Ki 7:10 And the foundation [was of] costly stones, even great stones,
stones of ten cubits, and stones of eight cubits.

Ezr 3:11 And they sang together by course in praising and giving thanks unto the LORD; because [he is] good, for his mercy [endureth] for ever toward Israel. And all the people shouted with a great shout, when they praised the LORD, because the foundation of the house of the LORD was laid.

1Ki 6:2  And the house which king Solomon built for the LORD, the length thereof [was] threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty [cubits], and the height thereof thirty cubits.

Ezr 6:3 In the first year of Cyrus the king [the same] Cyrus the king made a decree [concerning] the house of God at Jerusalem, Let the house be builded, the place where they offered sacrifices, and let the foundations thereof be strongly laid; the height thereof threescore cubits, [and] the breadth thereof threescore cubits;  

W + O + R + D = 60

90 % of word = 54 (love)  See the "iceberg duck" pg. 11
    
10 % of 60 x 60 = 360

W x O x R x D = 69 x 360

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


(W x O x R x D) + 360 = 70 x 360

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 25 2007,14:59

Sure it does....anything you say.
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 25 2007,15:13

Don't even bother responding, I really think he has some mental problems. I can't imagine that someone with a healthy mind can produce this kind off.....flapdoodle... There is no way you can engage in a real conversation with this guy.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,17:09

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 25 2007,15:13)
Don't even bother responding, I really think he has some mental problems. I can't imagine that someone with a healthy mind can produce this kind off.....flapdoodle... There is no way you can engage in a real conversation with this guy.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator
(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2007,06:59 ?  

@BWE:
Don't bother, he thinks he owns a blog here or something. Things like
Quote  
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God

simply do not make sense, it's bullcrap. I discuss with biblical scholars every day, they laugh at stuff like this.
There is no way you could engage in a meaningfull dialog with heroisreal, he doesn't even realise he doesn't make any sense.
-------------------------------------------------------

Assassinator

Posts: 77
Joined: Nov. 2007
 (Permalink) Posted: Nov. 18 2007,07:27 ?  

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See what I mean BWE?

But ok, so this is your personal place to make yourself ridiculous, goodluck with it.
****************************  
Assassinator, for the record,  you have not addressed me
on this thread.
Edit/add:  If you chose to do so, I may not respond. 

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 25 2007,19:49

So...

God = 0

Is your theory?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 25 2007,20:15

No Steve.  God = God
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 26 2007,06:43

In the beginning was the word:

When God spoke his first four words, "Let there be light.",
were they a prayer or command?

Light comes at you from four directions:
Reality, memory, day dreams, and night dreams.

My wife says I have perfect eyes in my ass.
She calls it 20/20 hindsight.  Zec 9:9

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 26 2007,13:54

No hero light comes from lightsources like the sun or a lightbulb. Fotons react with the receptors in your eyes, that's how you see. The wavelenght determins the color.
(see what I mean Steve?)
And yes hero, things like


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


are indeed bullcrap.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 26 2007,14:11

Zero, perhaps it would be helpful for you to explain how it is that one performs numerical actions such as addition and multiplication on alphabetical characters.

As far as I am aware,



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



is meaningless.

You might even start at the beginning...

For instance, a + 1 = ?

Please show your work, and explain.  It might also be helpful if you pointed us to a math textbook which explains how these functions work.  I don't seem to recall any of this type of math discussed up to and including college level algebra, though given my advanced age and years of prescription pain medication I admit that my memory isn't what it used to be.

My wife recently came across a t-shirt she says is tailor made for me.  It reads:



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
No, I don't have ADHD, it's just that
Hey, look at the cute little bunny rabbit!
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 26 2007,23:40

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 29 2007,14:19)
Louis:

"How does one convince any person of a proposition or the merits of any specific idea?"
***************************

One might try to use math.

Jesus ( GD or 74 ) + 'nothing in me' (O) = GOD (704)

I & N are the first & last letters in the bible.
I (9) + N (14) = IN, END, or I Am (9 + 1 + 13)
The beginning (9) x the end (14) = 126
God (26) + Jesus (74) + God (26) = 126
A = 1
Z = 26
AZ (126) + 360 = 486
A through Z (351) + 135 = 486
360 divided by 74 = 4.86486486 to infinity
1 divided by 74 = .00135135135 to infinity


Beginning and end can both be looped to have
the same values of nothing but 9 & 14.

B  E  G    I   N   N   I   N  G /   B  E
2   5  7   9  14  14  9  14  7     2  5
(   14   )                         (    14    )


  E   N   D /   E    N   D
  5   14   4    5    14  4
             (  9  )

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega,
                the beginning and the end,
                the first and the last.

37 (fold) (CG) + 37 = 74  (See Psm 37:37)

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Lou, I've explained numerical values many times
on this thread:
A = 1
B = 2
C = 3
D = 4
X = 24
Y = 25
Z = 26
G + O + D = 26
7 + 15 + 4 = 26

My member number at my golf club starts with
a 2 in the records computer only because my
name starts with a 'B'.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 26 2007,23:46

And does all this stuff hold true in German, French, or Russian, or does God favor English for a reason?

What about Japanese?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,00:18

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 26 2007,23:46)
And does all this stuff hold true in German, French, or Russian, or does God favor English for a reason?

What about Japanese?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


It's ironic that 'iron' is only iron in English,
the only language I speak.

It's ironic that I x R x O x N = 34020

Jesus (74) + 'nothing in me' (0) = 704

2 x 704 = 1408
   
34020 x 1408 = 47,900,160

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,00:41

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 14 2007,20:16)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 31 2007,11:50)
(1)    God x God x God  ............................................ =    47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................... =    47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................ =    47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............ =    47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
       x (Eve x 22)..................................................... =    47,900,160
       Eve, the mother of all living, x 22 = God
       Eve, the mother of all living, + 22 = God
       Eve + v (22) might look like ‘Ewe’ as in ‘Ewe 12'
      ‘U 12' (2112) = 3 x 704 (God)
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ..=     47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ........................................ =     47,900,160
      704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54).................... =      47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ....................... =       47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ......................................... =      47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12......................  =       47,900,160
        (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................ =     47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).......................... =     47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God)........... =     47,900,160
(15)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ... ....=     47,160,900

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D  (22,680)   John 1:1
22,680 x 1.5 = iron   (34,020)    
AZ + half AZ x (love + AZ) = iron   Zec. 9;9
God x love over two = iron  ( i x r x o x n ) Rev 12:5 & Psa 2:9

*****************************

(16)  (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 = 47,900,160

In Zec. 9:9, I see 'ass' as 'AZ'. First & Last

Zec 9:9  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


When I inadvertently made a mistake in my
math at *Good Math, Bad Math*, I was
notified in a heart beat.
So far, on this thread, that hasn't happened.
Either mine's right or no one cares.
I'm pickled tink.

Zero


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


(10)    Iron x 2 x God ......................................... =      47,900,160
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,06:19

Assassinator, the sun and light bulb, IMO, fall
into the catagory of 'reality'.  I'm sure we both
can name some more.

You never remember, day dream, or night dream
in color?

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,06:25

Quote (Assassinator @ Nov. 26 2007,13:54)
No hero light comes from lightsources like the sun or a lightbulb. Fotons react with the receptors in your eyes, that's how you see. The wavelenght determins the color.
(see what I mean Steve?)
And yes hero, things like
   

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


are indeed bullcrap.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator, the sun and light bulb, IMO, fall
into the catagory of 'reality'.  I'm sure we both
can name some more.

You never remember, day dream, or night dream
in color?

Edit/ Do you ever remember running a red light
or seeing a rainbow?

Eve = 32 (life)
32 x 22 = 704 (God)
32 + 22 = 54 (love)
704 & 54 = 2/3 of the trinity (family) of God.
704 x 54 x 1260 (AZ & nothing) = 47,900,160

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 27 2007,06:57

and all this made up number concept proves.....???
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,08:08

Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,06:57)
and all this made up number concept proves.....???
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Steve, IMO, it is not 'made up'.  It is designed.
That's why every living thing is symetrical.
Words that just happen to be (in English)
symetrical:

Eve
Dad
Pop
Tot
level
I Am that I Am
God Jesus God

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 27 2007,08:56

I think you are seeing things that are not there.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Nov. 27 2007,15:02

Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,08:56)
I think you are seeing things that are not there.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Well, unless you find an error in his math, I would submit that he is finding something that is there.  I acknowledge that it is quite possible that the patterns Zero finds are a result of a methodology that builds them to be there (ironically, making Zero something like the only intelligent design advocate actually engaged in an active research project). But the patterns are there, whether forced or found.

I would similarly answer the question regarding whether these patterns are meaningful or not.  They clearly have meaning to Zero.  And since no one seems to have taken the time, myself included, to understand how he goes about doing what he does, it might be a bit presumptuous to dismiss it.  Whether anyone wants to understand or Zero wants to share is left to another day.

Even if it is just a curious numbers game without any import beyond filling in between Zero's tee times, it surely has a long way to go before it is as annoying as LOLcats.



Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?  ;)

EDIT:  Fixed grammar not so good.
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 27 2007,16:49

I didn't make myself clear.  His numerology is meaningless and does not prove anything other than patterns exist in the universe.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Nov. 27 2007,18:34

Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,16:49)
I didn't make myself clear.  His numerology is meaningless and does not prove anything other than patterns exist in the universe.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No, you made yourself clear enough the first time.  I stand by my response.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,20:05

Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,08:56)
I think you are seeing things that are not there.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


But at least it's in color.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,20:18

Carlsonjok:

"Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?"
-------------------------------------
No, I'm a retired carpenter.

Zero
Posted by: carlsonjok on Nov. 27 2007,20:24

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 27 2007,20:18)
Carlsonjok:

"Hey Z, just out of curiousity, were you an actuary during your work days?"
-------------------------------------
No, I'm a retired carpenter.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Measure = 2 and Cut = 1?  ;)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,21:54

Once I sawed a board twice and it was still
two short.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 27 2007,23:58

Here is a fascinating study of numbers, done by
Vernon Jenkins.  His approach has been from
another direction, but worth study.

< http://homepage.virgin.net/vernon.jenkins/index.htm >

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Nov. 28 2007,08:12

What a surprise!....More Bible Babble!
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 28 2007,08:27

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 27 2007,08:08)
 
Quote (Steverino @ Nov. 27 2007,06:57)
and all this made up number concept proves.....???
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Steve, IMO, it is not 'made up'.  It is designed.
That's why every living thing is symetrical.
Words that just happen to be (in English)
symetrical:

Eve
Dad
Pop
Tot
level
I Am that I Am
God Jesus God

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


The word ‘designed’ is symmetrical.

De/sign/ed

“This world will get one sign.”
“This world will get no sign.”
 
Every leaf, every blade of grass,
every living thing is symmetrical.


Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

“In the midst” & “on either side” is symmetry, balance.  And the “leaves” also.

If symmetry in life is by chance, where's non-symmetry?

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 28 2007,10:09

Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
and one of you is a devil?

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river,
[was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits,
[and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree
[were] for the healing of the nations.

I’m sure some one will challenge my math but here goes:

Edit/add:

Adding 4 to go = God:

One for the money
Two for the show
Three to make ready
And four to go.

money + 1 = 73
show + 2 = 67
ready + 3 = 56
go + 4 (d) = 26 (God)

73 + 67 + 56 + 26 = 222 (3 x Jesus) ( the middle 12)

12 + 12 + 12 = 666
twelve [manner of] fruits = 666
The number of  times “the father” is mentioned in the KJV bible = 666

1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year
was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,
(God + 12 = gold)

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
[is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

9 x Jesus = 666

(3 x God) + ( 3 x Jesus ) + (3 AZ minus 12) = 666

Zero
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Nov. 28 2007,15:15

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 28 2007,10:09)
Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve,
and one of you is a devil?

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river,
[was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits,
[and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree
[were] for the healing of the nations.

I’m sure some one will challenge my math but here goes:

Edit/add:

Adding 4 to go = God:

One for the money
Two for the show
Three to make ready
And four to go.

money + 1 = 73
show + 2 = 67
ready + 3 = 56
go + 4 (d) = 26 (God)

73 + 67 + 56 + 26 = 222 (3 x Jesus) ( the middle 12)

12 + 12 + 12 = 666
twelve [manner of] fruits = 666
The number of  times “the father” is mentioned in the KJV bible = 666

1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year
was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,
(God + 12 = gold)

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
[is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

9 x Jesus = 666

(3 x God) + ( 3 x Jesus ) + (3 AZ minus 12) = 666

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 29 2007,21:15

Jhn 15:1  I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Jhn 15:2  Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
Jhn 15:3  Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Jhn 15:4  Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
Jhn 15:5  I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.



Zec 11:9  Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
Zec 11:10  And I took my staff, [even] Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zec 11:11  And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it [was] the word of the LORD.
Zec 11:12  And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me] my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty [pieces] of silver.

Beauty = 74
Jesus  = 74

Jerusa / lem
  74   /  30

GD + 00 = GOOD

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Nov. 30 2007,04:49



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Assassinator, the sun and light bulb, IMO, fall
into the catagory of 'reality'.  I'm sure we both
can name some more.

You never remember, day dream, or night dream
in color?

Edit/ Do you ever remember running a red light
or seeing a rainbow?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Yea, I do, so what? Do you know how dreaming works? If not, don't say those things about them.


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
GD + 00 = GOOD
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Even your meaningless "math"  fails. GD+ 00 = GD00

As Steve says, you're seeing things who aren't there. Just watch 23 with Jim Carrey.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 30 2007,05:47

Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

'nothing' in GD (74) = GOD (704)

A CD on a HIL (CHILD) can knot.  Be hid.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 30 2007,07:42

= 5 X 3 X 79,426,374,8720,195 +4 / 0 = "Lou is God and Zero should worship him and bring him free Yuengling and horny Uni co-eds."

You've been doing it in the wrong language, Zero.

ETA- Crap.  Y'know the Japanese Kanji showed up perfectly fine in the preview window...

EATA - There, that's better.


Posted by: Louis on Nov. 30 2007,08:07

You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...."

Get it right bitches!

Louis
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 30 2007,08:24

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,09:07)
You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...."

Get it right bitches!

Louis
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


That works for me, as we are a biune God with alternate incarnations for each side of the Atlantic and are both thusly named.

I'm just a bit more informal, so I get the co-eds who pray with "thee and thou", you get the more formal "you" ones.
Posted by: Louis on Nov. 30 2007,09:19

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2007,14:24)
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,09:07)
You mistranslated. That should be "LOUIS is god...."

Get it right bitches!

Louis
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


That works for me, as we are a biune God with alternate incarnations for each side of the Atlantic and are both thusly named.

I'm just a bit more informal, so I get the co-eds who pray with "thee and thou", you get the more formal "you" ones.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff.

Oh and biune deity? Nice work.

You get America, but I get Europe. Loving those Swedish girls.

Oh shit it's Mrs God! Quick! Hide! And don't tell her about those Swedish girls.

Louis
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 30 2007,09:35

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19)
Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Actually, thee and thou were the informal, personal, more intimate pronouns at the time they were actually used.

< Lookie here >.

I'd expect an Englishman to have a handle on such things as proper English.

 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19)
Oh and biune deity? Nice work.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Thanks, I was divinely inspired.  By ourself.

 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19)
You get America, but I get Europe. Loving those Swedish girls.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



OK, but I propose the occasional swap for variety.  I'm willing to annually loan you a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader in trade for a pair of Celtic Redheads.  If you've got one with waist length, curly, bright red hair and a nice figure, I'll go even up.

 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19)
And don't tell her about those Swedish girls.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Got it.  We gotta stick together.

Lou
Posted by: Louis on Nov. 30 2007,10:22

Quote (Lou FCD @ Nov. 30 2007,15:35)
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,10:19)
Dude, other way around on the thee and thou stuff.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Actually, thee and thou were the informal, personal, more intimate pronouns at the time they were actually used.

< Lookie here >.

I'd expect an Englishman to have a handle on such things as proper English.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Well bugger me quite deftly, I'm wrong. Thanks for the correction.

Of course I'll never admit that and will now call you a liar. Wouldn't want Skeptic to be disappointed now would I?

;-)

Louis
Posted by: Lou FCD on Nov. 30 2007,10:53

Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22)
Well bugger me quite deftly, I'm wrong.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



While infinitely tempting, and at the same time a wonderful example of the Queen's English that I love so much, the contemplation of the act itself connotates issues of Divine Self Pleasure that I'd rather not discuss openly on this board.  Call me though, and we'll talk dirty.  

 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22)
Thanks for the correction.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



You are quite welcome to whatever minor immense benefits of the severe religious indoctrination education I endured enjoyed in my wasted youth younger years that may sully enrich your life.

 
Quote (Louis @ Nov. 30 2007,11:22)
Of course I'll never admit that and will now call you a liar. Wouldn't want Skeptic to be disappointed now would I?

;-)

Louis
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Shall I now expound upon the convergence of Spanish and French to create Portuguese a la AFDaveyDoodles?

:)

And more importantly, are you in for the cheerleader/Celtic lass trade?

Zero, in thinking about said Celtic lass, there's something from the bible I'd like to see you parse, if you've got a moment.



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Awake, O north wind; and come, thou south; blow upon my garden, that the spices thereof may flow out. - Song of Solomon 4:16
---------------------QUOTE-------------------




Lay it on me, I'm really interested in your numerological exegesis of that.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Nov. 30 2007,14:06

Yellowbook Lou.  Yellowbook.com
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 01 2007,08:13

Huh.  I always read that verse and found it a little more


blue.

:D
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 01 2007,20:21

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
[is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

"the number of a man and his number"

Jesus + 9 = wisdom (83)

Jesus x 9 = 666

12 + 12 + 12 = 666

Check out a roulette table.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 02 2007,07:33

Drop the net!...We got one!
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 02 2007,08:57

Mat 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

A piece of 'money' is 'one'.

piece (38) + one (34) = money

God + (l) = gold (38) (one fold of 888)

Jesus x 12 (l) = 888

88 x 8 = 704 (God)

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 02 2007,09:24

To bad hero, your doing it in the wrong language. The Bible isn't in english, it's original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew and the New Testament was in Greek. Your patterns are flawd.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Dec. 02 2007,09:44

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 02 2007,09:24)
To bad hero, your doing it in the wrong language. The Bible isn't in english, it's original language of the Old Testament was Hebrew and the New Testament was in Greek. Your patterns are flawd.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Only as flawed as your grammar and spelling.  You forgot to capitalize "English" and you misspelled "flawed".  However, I would note that, despite such errors, we still get your point.  You are able to adequately express yourself in a language other than your native one.  Similarly, while Zero is obviously not reading the Bible in its original languages, it is still speaks to his understanding in it's derivative English form.  

Do you challenge people in the street for speaking a language you don't understand?  Probably not. So, why do you feel compelled to essentially the same thing here?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 02 2007,10:32

Thank you again Carlson
----------------------------------------

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day
[is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

One day = 1,000 years
1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day)
7,ooo years = 2,555,000,000 years (one week)

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 02 2007,11:15

English is my second language, no one is perfect.
Anyway, the English written Bible isn't the original Bible, it's not the language from the so-called "divine inspired" writers.


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


And what about a Martian day then? Or a Plutonian day?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 02 2007,11:58

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 02 2007,11:15)
English is my second language, no one is perfect.
Anyway, the English written Bible isn't the original Bible, it's not the language from the so-called "divine inspired" writers.


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


And what about a Martian day then? Or a Plutonian day?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator, every dog has his day, even Pluto.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 02 2007,17:52

Europian day then? Mercurian day? Or a day at Gliese 581 c perhaps?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 02 2007,18:17

Why not just earth day?  That's closer to home.  I'm not in to astrology.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 02 2007,18:32

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 01 2007,20:21)
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
[is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

"the number of a man and his number"

Jesus + 9 = wisdom (83)

Jesus x 9 = 666

12 + 12 + 12 = 666

Check out a roulette table.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


< http://search.msn.com/images....ble.jpg >
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2007,07:39

1Ki 6:2  And the house which king Solomon built for the LORD,
the length thereof [was] threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof
twenty [cubits], and the height thereof thirty cubits.

60 x 20 x 30 = 36,000 cubits

36,000 divided by Jesus (74) = 486.486486486 to infinity

AZ + 1 (ace) = 486 (360 + 126)

or

(A through Z) + 135 (9 +126)

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 03 2007,07:53

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17)
I'm not in to astrology.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero?

It's not really any different than what you do here.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2007,08:07

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 03 2007,07:53)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17)
I'm not in to astrology.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero?

It's not really any different than what you do here.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Lou, life is not about what one sees through a microscope or telescope.

It's about family and home, here and now.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 03 2007,08:19

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 03 2007,09:07)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 03 2007,07:53)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 02 2007,19:17)
I'm not in to astrology.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I find that bit interesting.  Why not, Zero?

It's not really any different than what you do here.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Lou, life is not about what one sees through a microscope or telescope.

It's about family and home, here and now.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Ok, a noble sentiment and I think most folks can reasonably agree to that for the most part, but I'm not sure how that answers my question, nor am I sure what microscopes and telescopes have to do with astrology as I've never heard of an astrologer using either.

(Are you perhaps mixing up astrology with astronomy?)

What is it about what you do that you find so much more fascinating or useful than astrology?
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 03 2007,12:33



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Why not just earth day?  That's closer to home.  I'm not in to astrology.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Because it's far from the only planet. Besides, even if you want to use an earthren day, do you want a day from 5 billion years ago? Or now? Or maybe just 500 million?
Anyway, you keep posting those mathy thingies, but still they don't make sense. It's simply not math, again you're seeing things that aren't there just as in the movie 23.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2007,15:08

Lou:
(Are you perhaps mixing up astrology with astronomy?)

What is it about what you do that you find so much more fascinating or useful than astrology?
----------------------------------------------------------------
Lou, astrology believes the alinement of the heavens determines ones
fate.  To do this, one has to observe them.  That’s my point.
Remember my post back a couple of pages ago, where I said, “    The
worse thing God ever saw was 25 men leaning against the temple wall
worshiping the sun.”? That reminds me of astrology.

What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find
pieces of the puzzle that fit.

----------------------------------------------
Assassinator:

"Anyway, you keep posting those mathy thingies, but still they don't make sense."
------------------------------

Sorry

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 03 2007,15:42



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find
pieces of the puzzle that fit.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You've first made yourself a puzzle, and then went searching for the pieces. Seek and though shalt find.


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Sorry
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No need to apologise, but I'll ask again: why aren't you just seeing what you want to see?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2007,16:50

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 03 2007,15:42)
 

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find
pieces of the puzzle that fit.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You've first made yourself a puzzle, and then went searching for the pieces. Seek and though shalt find.
 

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Sorry
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No need to apologise, but I'll ask again: why aren't you just seeing what you want to see?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator, I didn't make the puzzle.  God did.
He said he is the beginning and end...The A and Z.
I'm looking for B through Y.
O is a good starting point.

When the  disciples asked Jesus to teach them to
pray, he began with 'Our'...like 'O you are'...father.

BTW, 'OUR' has the same numerical value as
love (54).  'Care' is only one half of love (27),
but it is a good direction.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 03 2007,17:30

Then one would think, given your concept, God, Lord and King should all equal.

God = 22
King = 41
Lord = 49

What gives????
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2007,21:20

Steve, if you had checked back through this thread's
14 pages, you would have found most of this:

God = 1260 (alpha, omega & nothing )
God = 704 (beginning, end & nothing)
God = 54 (first, last,& nothing) (Ass + 15) Zec 9:9
God = 26 ( a through z ) also G + o + d (7 + 15 + 4)
God = U 12 (2112) divided by 3
God = 11 hidden in 3 measures (G , O , & D ) (111) (Az + fold) Zec 9:9
God = Eve x 22
God = Eve + 22
God = 10 % of heaven sevenfold
God = seven 360's folded
God = the total of the first 12 #s divided by 3 (1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 divided by 3)
God = GD + O (nothing in me)
Jesus = 74 (GD)
Messiah = 74
Gospel = 74
signet = 74
Beauty=74
point = 74
between = 74
finished = 74
one fold = 74/2 (37) (cg)
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
and the government shall be upon his shoulder:  (See Rev. 12:5)
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts
[is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel;
The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this
[is] his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Rev 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone,
and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth [it].

king  = 41

The word 'king' says, "11 in 7"

Turn 41 up side down

Lord (49) = sign ( God + I Am) (sg + in)

sign = that (49) like in  I AM  THAT  I AM

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 04 2007,06:25

I didn't ask for side-stepping, I asked why the magic does not work as it should for:

God = 22
King = 41
Lord = 49
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 04 2007,07:46

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 04 2007,06:25)
I didn't ask for side-stepping, I asked why the magic does not work as it should for:

God = 22
King = 41
Lord = 49
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Steve, if you consider my answer 'side- stepping',
so be it.
Should all these names have the same numerical
value?

Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

How about Dad, Mom, and Tot?  The family
of God.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 04 2007,08:44

It's obvious that you can make phrases to fit your desired outcome.  It's not magic, mystery or special coincidence it's manipulation.

There is no mystery, wonderment, signs of God or design since you plug in words until you reach your desired outcome.

Also, as pointed out by someone else, the original language of the Bible was Hebrew.  If this were really something worth value, the word of God would present the same patterns in all languages.  He is after all, God.

Go back to crossword puzzles…they keep you sharp.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 04 2007,09:11

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 04 2007,09:44)
Also, as pointed out by someone else, the original language of the Bible was Hebrew.  If this were really something worth value, the word of God would present the same patterns in all languages.  He is after all, God.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, to be a bit more precise about it and further the point.
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 04 2007,14:36

Thanks for the correction Lou.
Anyway, can you explain that to us hero, what I and Steve sad.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 04 2007,20:53

One size does not fit all:

Eze 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house
by the way of the gate whose prospect [is] toward the east.

Eze 44:1 ¶ Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the
outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it [was] shut.


Eze 44:2  Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut,
it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD,
the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.


Eze 44:3  [It is] for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread
before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate,
and shall go out by the way of the same.


Eze 46:9 ¶ But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it.

Eze 46:12 ¶ Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, [one] shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth [one] shall shut the gate.

Edit/add:

Doors

I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve
two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out."

I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to
be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title:
"Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out"
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 04 2007,20:57

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 04 2007,15:36)
Thanks for the correction Lou.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Less a correction than an augmentation, but you're welcome anyway.
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 04 2007,22:05

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 04 2007,20:53)
One size does not fit all:

Eze 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house
by the way of the gate whose prospect [is] toward the east.

Eze 44:1 ¶ Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the
outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it [was] shut.


Eze 44:2  Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut,
it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD,
the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.


Eze 44:3  [It is] for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread
before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate,
and shall go out by the way of the same.


Eze 46:9 ¶ But when the people of the land shall come before the LORD in the solemn feasts, he that entereth in by the way of the north gate to worship shall go out by the way of the south gate; and he that entereth by the way of the south gate shall go forth by the way of the north gate: he shall not return by the way of the gate whereby he came in, but shall go forth over against it.

Eze 46:12 ¶ Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, [one] shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth [one] shall shut the gate.

Edit/add:

Doors

I thought to myself," Jesus said he is the door. Doors serve
two purposes. They let people in and they keep people out."

I glanced down at the Reader's Digest that "happened" to
be laying in front of me. On the cover was a story title:
"Immagration now. Who To Let In and Who To Keep Out"
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No, apparently, your "design" concept only works in light of your imagination or your desire to make it work and mean something.

Either way, you got whole lot of nothing.

But, feel free to babble on.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2007,04:54

Steve:

"Either way, you got whole lot of nothing.

But, feel free to babble on."

-------------------------------------------------------------
Something from nothing:

Jesus (GD, first & last, beginning & end) + a 'whole lot of nothing' = GOD

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


Zero


Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 05 2007,06:43

As stated above, your "design" concept only works in light of your imagination or your desire to make it work and mean something.

Please seek help.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 05 2007,07:02

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2007,05:54)
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I'm so happy you quoted that exact text, Zero.

Do you realize the significance of the words "Alpha and Omega" in that sentence, Zero?

Why those two words, specifically?

Let me help you out.  That passage was written in Greek.  Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.  The Greek alphabet does not contain the same number of letters as the English alphabet, nor are they in the same order as the English alphabet, nor are they all directly homologous to letters in the English alphabet.

The upshot of that is that if there were any numerological significance hidden as a letter replacement cypher within the pages of that book, it's a good bet that it would be found in the Greek text, and would lose its significance when translated into English word by word, let alone translated into English in a way that would make sense to an English reader.

(H.T. to my Baptist High School, Blow Job U., and the United States Army JFK Special Warfare School.)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2007,14:21

Lou:

"Do you realize the significance of the words "Alpha and Omega" in that sentence, Zero?"
----------------------------------------
Yes Lou, it means 'beginning and end' or 'first and last'.
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 06 2007,16:07

You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 06 2007,19:13

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 06 2007,16:07)
You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator, there is no 'language question'.

I live in America and speak English.  If God
can't handle that, I'm in a heap of trouble.

Mar 12:27  He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 06 2007,19:22


Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 06 2007,19:35

One for Eugenics:
What do you get when you cross a long skinny needle, with a
short fat finger?
An average size prick that runs up and down the bar trying to knock
down everything he can't knock up.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Dec. 06 2007,19:51

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 06 2007,19:22)

---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Actually, I think Zero's answer was perfect.  I guess you are going to have to accept him dancing to a tune different than the one you are calling.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 06 2007,20:08

Did you hear about the blond nurse who took a red crayon
to work, in case she had to draw blood?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 06 2007,22:21

IMO:

Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Mal 3:6  For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 07 2007,03:50



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Assassinator, there is no 'language question'.

I live in America and speak English.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


There is. When the Bible was written, wich didn't even happen simultaniously, America didn't even exist. The language we're speaking right now didn't even exist. The Bible wasn't written in your language, it was in Hebrew, Greek and Araimac. The Bible your finding "patterns" in is nothing more then a (rough) translation.
Posted by: Assassinator on Dec. 07 2007,03:52



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


How incredibly cocky! You're speaking for God, who do you think you are?? He can speak for himself, you don't have to tell him what to do.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 07 2007,06:46

Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 07 2007,03:52)


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


How incredibly cocky! You're speaking for God, who do you think you are?? He can speak for himself, you don't have to tell him what to do.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Hey Dude, you misquoted me.  I said,"IMO",
then quoted God:

IMO:

Heaven, the first thing God made, has never and will never move.
God has never raised or lowered the bar.
God has never changed directions.
God has never changed his plans.
God does not change, give up, or quit.
God has never changed the plan of salvation:

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die;
if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again
that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing
iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Mal 3:6  For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 07 2007,07:09

Alright, so what you're saying is that the All Powerful, All Seeing Creator of the Universe needed to speak to me so he spoke to some guy named John 2000 years ago, gave him a nightmare, told him to write it down in a book in Greek, to be passed down through time and roughly translated into Elizabethan English around 1611, so that in 2007 some random internet guy could use a letter replacement cypher to tell me that God + Jesus = 96.

Well, that was productive.

Wouldn't it have been easier to just engrave it on a rock and hit me with it?

Alternatively, he might have just spoken to me and said, "Hey dumbass..." in which case he might take the time to explain exactly why I should care that God + Jesus = 96.  I'd be more likely to listen that way, because he apparently made me rather dense.

I feel bad about that, because he went to a lot of trouble, and I still don't see the significance.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 07 2007,07:48

For one thing Lou, God + Jesus doesn't equal 96.
They equal 100 (74+ 26).
God between God = 126 (9 x 14 ) the first x the last.
Secondly, that which is written in stone twice,
is written in stone.
Lou, you are made like your maker. Your mind
is infinite and will never fill up so enjoy.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 07 2007,08:06

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,08:48)
For one thing Lou, God + Jesus doesn't equal 96.
They equal 100 (74+ 26).
God between God = 126 (9 x 14 ) the first x the last.
Secondly, that which is written in stone twice,
is written in stone.
Lou, you are made like your maker. Your mind
is infinite and will never fill up so enjoy.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I picked a number, Zero.  It might as well have been 7,584.  Or 42.  See, if God + Jesus = 42, you might be on to something.

It just seems like it's an awful round-about way to tell me something that doesn't make any sense in the first place.

Further,

God = 26
Horseshit = 121
Zero = 64
Crap = 38

So, Zero (64) + crap (38) + God (26) - 7 (days of creation) = Horseshit (121)

Now in this instance I'm not just trying to be rude, but rather to illustrate that you can do what you do and make it say anything you want.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 07 2007,08:23

Hey Lou,
7,584 & 42 are good numbers.  Don't knock em.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 07 2007,09:00

The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose


Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 07 2007,12:41



   
The Nitty Gritty

Hey Son, where you goin'
Across the sands of time?
No footprints to follow,
No feet seen behind.

Can you see where you're goin?
Do you wonder where you've been?
Are you in a place called heaven
Or is hell around each bend?

You've got to learn to take it easy
And to rest a while each day.
Stop and think about tomorrow.
Set some signs along the way.

For life is what you make it.
Don't let others steer you wrong.
Love and laugh, live and take it.
Drown your tears in a song.

Take a little bit of heaven.
Raise a little bit of hell.
You've got to live to learn the difference
Or your song will never sail.

Son, don't ever build a mountain
You cannot climb alone.
Set the beat and face the music
If no others sing along.

If you want to build a highway
For folks to walk upon,
Make sure you make it two-way
And travel with a song.

For who will want to follow
A fellow to the end,
If they don't know where he's goin'
And they don't know where he's been.

See, the world will not remember
Even signs stuck in the sand.
Don't be preachin' without teachin'
Don;t play God, just be a man.

If the world will not accept you
And you've given all you can,
Call for help when help is needed
And I'll meet you in the sand.

So kiss the Son, you sons of leaven.
Bow your knee, you kings of sin.
I'll not slay my son for heaven.
I'll not tell him where I've been.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 08 2007,08:00

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)
The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Not to mention, No Ark.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 09 2007,19:06

Happy Birthday Steve

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 10 2007,07:03

Thanks so much!
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on Dec. 10 2007,10:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 06 2007,19:13)
Quote (Assassinator @ Dec. 06 2007,16:07)
You're ignoring the language question, I'm still eager to hear.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Assassinator, there is no 'language question'.

I live in America and speak English.  If God
can't handle that, I'm in a heap of trouble.

Mar 12:27  He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


English was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for Lou.  :angry:
Posted by: Richardthughes on Dec. 10 2007,13:31

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)
The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Not to mention, No Ark.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?
Posted by: J-Dog on Dec. 10 2007,13:54

Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 10 2007,13:31)
Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)
The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Not to mention, No Ark.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Richard - I hate to step on any toes, but I believe I can help with the "excrement  question":

The excrement was saved,
and given back as a turd.
It's come back to us
Disguised as God's Word.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 12 2007,09:25

Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 10 2007,13:54)
Quote (Richardthughes @ Dec. 10 2007,13:31)
 
Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 08 2007,08:00)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 07 2007,09:00)
The Ark (saving 8)

No rudder, no sail

No front, no tail

No left, no right

No lights in sight

No charts, no maps

{Some prayers perhaps}

No dinghy in tow

No motor to go

One window, one door

3 floors, no more

But it served its purpose


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Not to mention, No Ark.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


all of those animals
Just wouldn't fit
Where was the food stored?
and where was the excrement?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Richard - I hate to step on any toes, but I believe I can help with the "excrement  question":

The excrement was saved,
and given back as a turd.
It's come back to us
Disguised as God's Word.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


J, Noah’s  Ark is similar to the Ark of the testament where God
said he would meet with the high priest, between the two cherubim.

Notice that my avatar, the chart, and the infinity sign, all have
a balance point, zero in the middle.

In reality, God created time, size, and direction.  Each has a zero
in the middle.  You have six contacts with reality.  Each has a zero
in the middle.  (Study a Lilly)
Here in reality, O is real.
Here in life, O is real.
Here in creation, O is real.
In the middle of time, O is real.
In the middle of size, O is real.
In the middle of direction, O is real.
In the middle of ‘GOD’, O is real.

Zero
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Dec. 12 2007,12:09

Hey Zero, do you ever make sense?  Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 12 2007,14:27

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)
Hey Zero, do you ever make sense?  Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero
Posted by: Jim_Wynne on Dec. 12 2007,14:29

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,14:27)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)
Hey Zero, do you ever make sense?  Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


"No," in other words.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 12 2007,22:11

Jim, check out a Lilly.
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on Dec. 13 2007,10:17

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,14:27)
Quote (Mr_Christopher @ Dec. 12 2007,12:09)
Hey Zero, do you ever make sense?  Do you ever speak in clear english, without the nonsense?

Just curious.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Christopher, IMO, Christ and Ophir are two thirds of
the family (trinity) of God.

Pro 16:11 A just weight and balance [are] the LORD'S:
all the weights of the bag [are] his work.

Isa 40:12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand,
and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of
the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales,
and the hills in a balance?

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I'll take that as a no.
Posted by: Jim_Wynne on Dec. 13 2007,11:00

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 12 2007,22:11)
Jim, check out a Lilly.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Like this one?



Or did you mean "lily"?
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 13 2007,11:50



Ok....I'm checking out Lilly....what should I be looking for???
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 14 2007,07:01

Steve:

"Ok....I'm checking out Lilly....what should I be looking for???"
-----------------------------------------------

Mat 6:28  And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies
of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

Mat 6:29  And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all
his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

An 'array'  has to do with a matrix, particularly in math.

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 14 2007,21:21

As my 11 year old daughter would day, "Duh!"

Again why doesn't God = King = One?  You seem to be surprised that things "=" when you manipulate the phrase.

Big deal.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 16 2007,12:46

From my Dec 03 post:
"What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find
pieces of the puzzle that fit."

Jesus took the time to compare Soloman with a lilly.
There is, IMO, a profound analogy between them.

Six senses connect you with reality.  They balance in the middle.
Six stamen of a lilly surround the ovary (center).  They each pivot
or balance on a center point.

Mat 20:2  And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

I have six senses, since I was sent to make scents for six cents.
(A penny a day for six days.)

< http://info.mediastreet.com/mdc_print_download.asp?id=509 >

< http://images.method.co.uk/index.php/image/114/ >

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 16 2007,16:13

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 16 2007,12:46)
From my Dec 03 post:
"What fascinates me about the way I seek answers?  I like to find
pieces of the puzzle that fit."

Jesus took the time to compare Soloman with a lilly.
There is, IMO, a profound analogy between them.

Six senses connect you with reality.  They balance in the middle.
Six stamen of a lilly surround the ovary (center).  They each pivot
or balance on a center point.

Mat 20:2  And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

I have six senses, since I was sent to make scents for six cents.
(A penny a day for six days.)

< http://info.mediastreet.com/mdc_print_download.asp?id=509 >

< http://images.method.co.uk/index.php/image/114/ >

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You continue to make things up to fit your babble.  There is no purposeful or designed association...It's just wishful thinking on your part.

You babble on as though you believe you have found some fantastic hidden meaning, but when pointed out that what should "=" doesn't, you avoid the question and drool forth more babble.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 16 2007,19:26

Steve, it's rather strange that you can state that since the word 'God' doesn't equal 'one',everything I say is "babble".  How much weight does that claim to reason carry?
What part of my math is 'babble'?
---------------------------------------------------------------
To those guests who are first time visitors to my thread, I urge you to start on page
one to see where I'm coming from.

Zero
Posted by: stevestory on Dec. 16 2007,19:39



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
What part of my math is 'babble'?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



The typed part.

Hereoisreal is a kooky troll, but he's the gentlest and least annoying troll I've ever seen. I don't mind him being around at all.
Posted by: Richardthughes on Dec. 16 2007,20:27

Quote (Steverino @ Dec. 13 2007,11:50)


Ok....I'm checking out Lilly....what should I be looking for???
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I would.
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 17 2007,07:08

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 16 2007,19:26)
Steve, it's rather strange that you can state that since the word 'God' doesn't equal 'one',everything I say is "babble".  How much weight does that claim to reason carry?
What part of my math is 'babble'?
---------------------------------------------------------------
To those guests who are first time visitors to my thread, I urge you to start on page
one to see where I'm coming from.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No, it's what you choose to make equal.  You add or subtract words to make phrases equal and then trumpet the results as though the pattern is amazing of magical.

If it were truly magical, amazing or designed then, God would equal King, God would equal One and so forth.  

What you are doing is making the arguments fit the sum.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 17 2007,11:58

Exd 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain;
for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

In (23) + Vain (46) = Jeh (23) + ovah (46)

I Am + I Am + I Am = WWW (69)

Did you hear about the spider soo big he had a world wide web?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 17 2007,16:57

2Ki 5:10 And Elisha sent a messenger unto him, saying, Go and wash in Jordan seven times, and thy flesh shall come again to thee, and thou shalt be clean.

Jos 6:14  And the second day they compassed the city once, and returned into the camp: so they did six days.
Jos 6:15 ¶ And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times.
Jos 6:16  And it came to pass at the seventh time, when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city.

Not until completing 2520 degrees, seven circles, were the people told by Joshua to shout.

Rev 11:3  And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall
prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The word 'GOD' says, "Seven circles (360's) folded."

7 x 360 divided by 2 (folded) = 1260

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 17 2007,17:16

Just more bullshit.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 17 2007,17:22

Here are a few of my posts which, to my amazement, no one has addressed:

(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2007,07:25    

The Design of Life: Discovering Signs of Intelligence In Biological Systems

A reviewer:
"the source of that functional information is a designing intelligence."

********************************************************
ME:

Finding out 'what' about life, is not going to tell anyone anything about 'who, where, how, when, or why.'
Will science be satisfied with only 'what'.
By taking a model T apart, one will find that everything fits for a reason, but you'll not find out much about the designer.  Certainly not, what he looks like, how old he is, where his home is, how many
kids he has, or what he does in his spare time.  Maybe, you'll come to a decision that, who ever he is,
he has made his machine for some purpose other than to be used as a tie clasp or paper weight.
But an automobile is not IC.  It is designed for a purpose and it takes two other parts to accomplish that.
One is a tank of gas and the other is a driver.  Neither has to look like Mr. Ford.  

Life is about family and home, in that order.  Check out the 342 stories at  http://www.hereoisreal.com

Zero
*************************************************************************
(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 25 2007,07:25

Who......Infinite Designer (God)
What.....Infinite Design  (Life)
Where...In the middle between infinity big & infinity small. (here)
How..... And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  Gen 1:2
When...In the middle of eternity.
Why....For a resting place.  Gen 2:2  And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

God's priority:
Day 1 he made heaven.  Gen 1:8
Day 2 he made earth.  Gen 1:9


Isa 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven [is] my throne, and the earth [is] my footstool: where [is] the house that ye build unto me? and where [is] the place of my rest?
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1Ch 28:2 Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: [As for me], I [had] in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building:

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2Ch 9:18 And [there were] six steps to the throne, with a footstool of gold, [which were] fastened to the throne, and stays on each side of the sitting place, and two lions standing by the stays:

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Psa 99:5 Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; [for] he [is] holy.

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Psa 132:7 We will go into his tabernacles: we will worship at his footstool.

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Lam 2:1 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, [and] cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!

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Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

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God’s foot stool

Psa 110:1 [[A Psalm of David.]] The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

I posted the above on some discussion boards during
the day. That night my wife and I went to see the play, Gypsy.
During the middle, a landlord, Mr. Goldstone, was being patronized. One
of the actors got down on his all-fours and Rose placed Mr.
Goldstone's feet on the actor's back. (A gold stone is what the lid to the Ark is
made from...one hunk of gold)

Zero
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 29 2007,14:19

Beginning and end can both be looped to have
the same values of nothing but 9 & 14.

B  E  G      I   N   N   I   N  G  /   B  E
2   5  7     9  14  14  9  14  7      2  5
(   14   )                          (    14       )


 E    N   D /   E    N   D
 5   14   4     5    14  4
           (   9   )

9 + 14 = I AM

Jesus (GD,74) said:

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega,      (9 + 1 + 13 = I AM) (9 x 14 = 126, AZ)
               the beginning and the end,   (G&D, 7&4), (plus 'nothing in me' = GOD)
               the first and the last.            ( 9, the first letter in the bible, & 14, the last )

Here, O is real:
The beginning and end + O = God
The first and last + O = God
The alpha and omega + O = God

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 02 2007,10:32

2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day
[is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

One day = 1,000 years
1,000 years = 365,000,000 years (one day)
7,ooo years = 2,555,000,000 years (one week)

Zero
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 17 2007,17:26

.....uuuummmmmm....because its all bullshit?....and the only ones who care are you and your doctor???

Does he know you use his computer when he leaves the grounds????
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 18 2007,00:50

Quote (hereoisreal @ Nov. 11 2006,20:21)


Luk 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.


The doctor is "IN".

Zero
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The doctor is "IN".
Posted by: Lou FCD on Dec. 19 2007,07:54

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 16 2007,20:39)


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What part of my math is 'babble'?
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The typed part.

Hereoisreal is a kooky troll, but he's the gentlest and least annoying troll I've ever seen. I don't mind him being around at all.
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I'll concur with that.
Posted by: Steverino on Dec. 19 2007,09:48

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 19 2007,07:54)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 16 2007,20:39)


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What part of my math is 'babble'?
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The typed part.

Hereoisreal is a kooky troll, but he's the gentlest and least annoying troll I've ever seen. I don't mind him being around at all.
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I'll concur with that.
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You're right.  I'll just let it tard.
Posted by: carlsonjok on Feb. 06 2008,05:25

Bump.  

Welcome back.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 06 2008,20:13

Thanks Carlson

Did I mention the blond nurse who took a red
crayon to work in case she had to draw blood?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 16 2008,20:08

For clarity, since I've added a couple of incidents, I'm re-posting "This story has a ring to it":

In January, 2004, I was on my patio when I noticed my neighbor out in his backyard with a metal detector. He must have spent 3-4 hours scanning his grass.
I asked him the next day, as I leaned over our fence, what had he lost. He said that he was losing weight and had lost his gold wedding ring but didn't have any idea where or when. I then glanced to my left about 8-10 feet and spotted his ring in the grass.

Night before last, Joan's sister and husband were over and I told them the above story. The next day after
we had done some shopping , we were having lunch at home when Shirley, my sis-in-law discovered one
of her gold ear rings was missing. We searched the house for about an hour, then backtracked. While Bob
and I went to one store, my wife and Shirley went to another.
They pulled into the yard about 5 minutes after Bob and I with the ear ring.
Joan said that the one parking spot I had used that morning was empty so she parked there. They searched
through the whole store and around the parking space before finally getting back in the car. Then Joan told
Shirley to get out one more time and look around the parking spot, which she did and got back in. As Joan
was backing out, she spotted the ear ring in the sand.

In February of 06, I was playing golf and riding with Dick Ledger in his cart when he mentioned that he was having trouble keeping his wedding ring on because he was losing weight.
The remark brought back memories of the above story from the year before so I told it to him.

When I arrived home that afternoon, my wife told me that she had spoken to Janet White on the phone and learned that Bill, her husband, had lost his ring finger while trying to lift something heavy from his son’s truck.
A few days later, Bob and Shirley came to visit again and I told them all of the above. Just before they were about to leave, Bob discovered he had lost his wedding band. (He had been losing weight.)
After they left, my wife continued to look for the ring and asked me to help. I didn’t and said to her, " He’ll probably find it in his trunk"
Our maid, Suzan came that day so my wife asked her to keep an eye out for it also. I told her the complete story up till then. And then, I told her a ring joke.
I said, " Do you know why my fanger smells like limon pie? It’s got my rang on it."
That night Shirley called. She said Bob had found his ring in the car trunk.
The next time Suzan came, I told her that Bob had found his ring.
She said, " After you told me the ring joke, I went home and found my mother in the kitchen. I asked her what she was baking and she replied, “Limon meringue pie”."

Did you ever find something that was lost, before you missed it?
I pulled my hand from under my pillow to find my wife's
ring hooked to my ring.  She had come to wake me a few
minutes before.

Isa 65:24  And it shall come to pass, that before they call,
I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

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Instant review (January 08)

An advertisement on TV was almost over before I realized
it was replaying reality..... something that had happened, as seen
through my eyes, from my angle of view, five minutes before.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Feb. 16 2008,20:51

And the moral of that story is of course...


don't lose weight.

:D


Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 17 2008,01:35

Quote (Lou FCD @ Feb. 16 2008,20:51)
And the moral of that story is of course...


don't lose weight.

:D
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How about gaining?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 18 2008,22:58

The two bible verses below say the same thing.
I see the trinity of God, the first family, in each.

Zec 9:9  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout,
O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh
unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who
was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child
was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Mathmatically, (God + God) x IRON = The trinity (God x God x God) or 47,900,160

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Feb. 18 2008,23:27

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 18 2008,22:58)
The two bible verses below say the same thing.
I see the trinity of God, the first family, in each.

Zec 9:9  Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout,
O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh
unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Rev 12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who
was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child
was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Mathmatically, (God + God) x IRON = The trinity (God x God x God) or 47,900,160

Zero
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Have you seen "a beautiful mind", hero?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 19 2008,06:37

"Have you seen "a beautiful mind", hero?"

Yes I did Richard.
 
The Nash equilibrium game looks a little like my avatar,

Edit/add:
(the brew O of waits & balance),
with zero really getting a workout.
I want to say, unequivocally and positively,  reality
is not real, but I did stay in a Holiday Express last night.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Feb. 19 2008,18:38

I'm just a bit worried that like the main character, you might be caught up in numerology and pattern recognition that isn't there, hero. Something to ponder...
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 19 2008,21:29

Quote (Richardthughes @ Feb. 19 2008,18:38)
I'm just a bit worried that like the main character, you might be caught up in numerology and pattern recognition that isn't there, hero. Something to ponder...
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Don't worry Richard.  There are pattern makers and pattern recognizers.
I have never known a leader to have a guide, a pathfinder a path, or
a trailblazer a trail.

NUMEROLOGY

Rev 13:17  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Search 'the father' at:

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(Use KJV and 'old search')

   
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1Ki 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon
in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,

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PATTERN  RECOGNITION

Exd 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern
of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof,
even so shall ye make [it].

Exd 25:40 And look that thou make [them] after their pattern,
which was shewed thee in the mount.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 21 2008,19:43

Last night while watching Wheel of Fortune, I asked my wife if the toaster oven was still on.
As she ran to the kitchen to turn it off , Pat Sajak mentioned how Vanna had opened
her toaster oven and blew out the fire.
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Edit/add:

Standing in the greenside trap lying 3, I wanted so much to birdie hole
number 13, not for the score but because it would be a repeat miracle
just exactly like the day before, and I was now playing with someone
who didn’t believe in miracles.
It didn’t happen and I was disappointed.
When my wife’s second shot on the next hole bumped mine 100 yards
ahead, the non-believer exclaimed, “ That’s a miracle.  You couldn’t
do that again in a thousand tries.”
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I came home from golf and told my wife that I had passed Glenn
Cambel teeing off # 1 as I played # 9.
I walked into the house and “ Rhinestone Cowboy” was playing
on my TV music channel.
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For some reason, Job of the bible, was the subject of a long conversation
between me and my wife while on the patio.  As I walked into the
house, Brent Jobe was in his backswing on TV.

Zero
Posted by: keiths on Feb. 21 2008,22:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 21 2008,19:43)
Last night while watching Wheel of Fortune, I asked my wife if the toaster oven was still on.

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How do you cope with all the excitement?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 22 2008,07:00

Quote (keiths @ Feb. 21 2008,22:16)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 21 2008,19:43)
Last night while watching Wheel of Fortune, I asked my wife if the toaster oven was still on.

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How do you cope with all the excitement?
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Sometimes it's hard when you're watching the grass grow.

I'm late!  I'm late!

While driving through a residential area that had a 30 mph speed limit, I
wished the truck in front of me would go just a little faster since I was
running late.  As I pulled up closer to it at a red light, I glanced at the
license tag.  It read 'SPD KILS'.
Posted by: Nomad on Feb. 22 2008,23:21

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 22 2008,07:00)
While driving through a residential area that had a 30 mph speed limit, I
wished the truck in front of me would go just a little faster since I was
running late.  As I pulled up closer to it at a red light, I glanced at the
license tag.  It read 'SPD KILS'.
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If you want to talk about coincidences, how about this:

A while ago I had moved to a new place in order to be in close proximity to my girlfriend of the time.  At the time I was still harboring the fantasy that I may one day become a pilot (yes, that's my ultimate fantasy, I dig all this sciency stuff as a hobby, but if I had my choice I'd be residing in a cockpit (no jokes on that term, they're too easy) working a joystick (again, really, of COURSE I know what that sounds like, but that doesn't mean anyone else needs to comment on it).

Anyway, I had moved into a new apartment complex, and immediately began receiving a "Student Pilot" publication, apparently belonging to the previous occupant.  Soon after that, I discovered that a car parked near my car in the apartment complex parking lot had a flight instructor themed bumper sticker.


Surely all those coincidences were a not so subtle message from God.  Right?

Nah.  I've been over this time and time again.  The life of a commercial pilot today is crap.  And it's only going to get worse as fuel becomes more expensive and the airline industry continues to grind itself into the dirt in a perverse caricature of the concept of capitalistic competition.

As far as the seeming coincidence, I was living near a smallish airport that had a large flight school.  It's no great surprise that students of the flight school, as well as flight instructors, would seek out lodging in area apartments.

Meaningless coincidences DO exist.  Random chance provides the mechanism by which they happen, our inherent need to provide meaning to everything provides the context that makes them appear to have intrinsic meaning.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 23 2008,05:59

Nomad, by chance, I'm a pilot too.


Zero
Posted by: Nomad on Feb. 23 2008,19:45

I'm a little disappointed you didn't use a picture of a pilot of a Japanese Zero.

You're an odd one, Zero.  In a way I want to study your ways.  Not that I think there's any meaning at all in your numerology, I skip over a lot of the stuff you post, it has no relevance to the real world as I've experienced it in the 31 years of my life so far.

But the way you can take criticism or dissenting thought and let it roll off your back like water off a duck's butt and then turn around and come back with a charmingly irreverent response is a sight to behold.  I need to learn how to do that.  I'm the opposite, I can't let conflict go and have an almost irresistible urge to fight to resolve the disagreement.

I suspect I could add years to my life in stress reduction alone if I could do what you do in situations where it's impossible to resolve the conflict through discussion.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 23 2008,20:23

[/QUOTE]Meaningless coincidences DO exist.  Random chance provides the mechanism by which they happen, our inherent need to provide meaning to everything provides the context that makes them appear to have intrinsic meaning.[/quote]


Noman, you  give 'random chance' some credits.  From where does our 'inherent need' come?

Chance has no goal.
Chance has no direction.
Chance has no plan.
Chance has no skill.
Chance has no action, only reaction.
Chance has no purpose.
Chance has no pattern.
Chance has no desires.
Chance has no hopes.
Chance has no dreams.
Chance has no values.
Chance has no love.
Chance has no preferences.
Chance has no choice.
Chance has no discernment.
Chance has no kingdom.
Chance has no power.
Chance has no glory.
Chance can't think once, much less twice.

Does God have a goal, direction, time frame, purpose, or are things left to chance?

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish
the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to
bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

In seventy weeks:
1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4.bring in everlasting righteousness
5.seal up the vision and prophecy
6.anoint the most Holy

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, [art] a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and

strength, and glory.

1Ch 29:11 Thine, O LORD, [is] the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the

majesty: for all [that is] in the heaven and in the earth [is thine]; thine [is] the kingdom, O LORD, and thou

art exalted as head above all.

Mat 6:13 .........For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 24 2008,06:01

"I'm a little disappointed you didn't use a picture of a pilot of a Japanese Zero."

Nomad, if you slide the picture left, the markings say 'rescue' in Japanese.

Thanks for the kind words.  Hang in there.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 24 2008,07:05

Chance?

< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....7;st=30 >

After I posted Nov. 05 2006,00:15 this thread was dead until May 27, 07.

Check my post May 28 2007,21:47

Cute

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 25 2008,23:36

IRON

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

edit:

"seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks"  =   W x O x R x D ( 69 circles )

3AZ x word = 22,680 ( 90 % of 70 circles )

22,680 x ( 3 x God ) = 47, 900,160


(AZ + half AZ) x 180 = IRON (3AZ x word x 1.5)

IRON x (2 x GOD) = 47,900,160

The trinity (God x God x God) = 47,900,160

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 27 2008,22:32

Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 06 2008,08:36

Here are the mathematical answers for the above post:

(1) 704 x 1260 x 54

(2) 8960 x 99 x54

(3) 704 x 1260 x 54

(4) 10 % of 7040 (55 x 128) x 1260 x 54

(5) 704 x (32 + 22) x 1260

(6) (32 x 22) x (32 + 22) x  1260 ( 7 x 360/2)

(7) 704 x 1260 x 54

(8) 32 x 77 x360 x54

(9) 135(ace, one) x 168 (hours) x (3 x 704)

(10) 9 x 18 x 15 x 14 x ( 2 x 704)

(11) 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7 x 8 x 9 x 11 x 12

(12) (7 x 15 x 4) x 54 x 2112 ( U 12)

(13) 9 x 14 x 9 x 20 x 2112

(14) (23 + 15 + 18 + 4) x ( 3 x 126) x 2112

(15) (10 x 5 x 19 x 21 x 19 x 126) + ( 74 x 126 x 15 )

(16) 47,900,160 minus 739,260 ( 74 squared x 135)

(17) 126 squared (15,876) + (126 x 54) x 2112

Zero
Posted by: Kristine on Mar. 06 2008,10:01

Enough of this, O human magic 8-ball, and tell me if I shall ever become the next Ann Miller of Darwinian shimmies…

…or at least the next Shirley Jackson of atheist fictpun. O tell me! ;)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 22 2008,19:25

Happy Birthday Kristine

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Mar. 22 2008,19:45

Quote (hereoisreal @ Mar. 22 2008,19:25)
Happy Birthday Kristine

Zero
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I'll link this one into the right thread for ya, (H/Z)ero.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 22 2008,20:03

Thanks Richard

This is kinda unusual:

One God (704) x 1260 x love = 47,900,160
Two Gods (1408) x IRON       = 47,900,160
Three Gods (2112) x 22,680  = 47,900,160
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 23 2008,22:32

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2008,22:32)
Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
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AZ

AZ is the Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega*,
                the beginning and the end,
                the first and the last.

I & N are the first & last letters in the bible.
I (9) + N (14) = IN, END (5 + 14 + 4), or I Am (9 + 1 + 13)
The beginning (9) x the end (14) = 126*
God (26) + Jesus (74) + God (26) = 126*
A = 1
Z = 26
AZ (126) + 360 = 486
126 + 9 = 135 (ACE)
A through Z (351) + 135  = 486
351 + 9 = 360
360 divided by 74 = 4.86486486 to infinity
1 divided by 74 = .00135135135 to infinity

Beginning and end can both be looped to have
the same values of nothing but 9 & 14.

B  E  G  I   N   N   I   N  G /  B  E
2   5  7   9  14  14  9  14  7     2  5
(   14   )                          (   14     )

  E   N   D /  E   N   D
  5   14   4    5    14  4
             (  9  )



Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass*, and upon a colt the foal of an ass*.

Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.**




I (first) x N (last) = AZ (126)
AZ + O (nothing in me) = 1260
Jesus ( GD or 74 ) + 'nothing in me' (O) = GOD (704)

Jehovah (69) x 360 = WORD (24,840)
WORD (23 x 15 x 18 x 4) + 360 = Seventy circles, 25,200

90% of 25,200 = 22,680 (63 circles)
10 % of 25,200 = 2,520 (seven circles) (2 x 1260)
The word  “GOD” says “ seven circles folded” (1260)

1/2 AZ (63) x 360 = 22,680

1.5 x 22,680 = 34,020 (I x R x O x N ) (edit)
 
Rev.12:5  And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.

Does God keep his "WORD"?
Does God have a goal, direction, time frame, purpose, or are things left to chance?

Dan 9:24  Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish
the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to
bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

In  "seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks", 69 weeks, 69 circles,WORD, (24,840):
1. finish the transgression
2. make an end of sins
3. make reconciliation for iniquity
4.bring in everlasting righteousness
5.seal up the vision and prophecy

In seventieth week, one circle:

6.anoint the most Holy (the Messiah the Prince)

The kingdom of heaven is ni.  (the first is last)
Man's best friend is God turned backward. 126* x 180 ( a ewey), or
one x one week, or 135 (ace) x 168 (24/7), or AZ x IT (22,680)


Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.

( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ................. = 22,680
Love x G x O x D .............................= 22,680
W x O x R x D (24,840) =   (6 x 360) + 22,680                    
AZ  squared  + (AZ x love)                 = 22,680

*AZ

** AZ under
Posted by: Richardthughes on Mar. 23 2008,22:36

Hang on.



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
1/2 AZ (63) x 360 = 22,680
1 & 1/2 AZ x 360 = 34,020 (I x R x O x N )
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Why isn't the "1 & 1/2" version 3 times larger than the "1/2" one? 1.5 = 3 x 0.5
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 23 2008,23:28

Quote (Richardthughes @ Mar. 23 2008,22:36)
Hang on.

 

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
1/2 AZ (63) x 360 = 22,680
1 & 1/2 AZ x 360 = 34,020 (I x R x O x N )
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Why isn't the "1 & 1/2" version 3 times larger than the "1/2" one? 1.5 = 3 x 0.5
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You are right Richard and I'm glad you caught it.

What I meant was:

1&1/2 of [1/2 AZ (63) x 360] or 22,680 x 1.5 = 34,020

Thanks, I'll edit.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 24 2008,21:16

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2008,22:32)
Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ................................................................. = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


        Here is another way of expressing #'s 1, 3, 7, & 10
        (Love* x 1260 =2 x IRON)

(18)   2 x IRON x God ........................................= 47,900,160

       Sgs 2:4 He brought me to the banqueting house, and his banner* over me [was] love*.

       Looking through the eyes* of love*.

      * 54
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 03 2008,07:07

(1)    God x God x God  ................................................................. = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
       x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
     
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
      704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12.............................................  = 47,900,160
        (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. ..= 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ............................. = 47,160,900
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) .................................= 47,900,160
(18)   2 x IRON x God ................................................................= 47,900,160
(19)  IRON x 11 seven fold...........................................................= 47,900,160


The kingdom of heaven is like 11, a woman (the mother of all living)
hid in 3 measures, G, O, & D.
Eve x 22 = GOD (704)
Eve + 22 = GOD (54)

(20) Love/2 x 1260 x 11 seven fold................................................= 47,900,160

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 04 2008,09:28

Over 2,500 hits since my Feb. 27 post.

"I figure I get one free whine.

Is this topic too incoherent to deserve a reply?"

(Remark stolen from BWE)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 04 2008,10:30



2/3 of the trinity (family) of GOD.

The least is greatest.

Zero
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on April 04 2008,12:10

What is the square root of jesus?
Posted by: Assassinator on April 04 2008,13:00

Please Christopher, don't make this thread more scary then it is already. But just to give him a break, I'll do it for him:
Jesus = 74
Root from 74 = 8,602 ofcourse rounded off.
Posted by: Mr_Christopher on April 04 2008,14:37

Quote (Assassinator @ April 04 2008,13:00)
Please Christopher, don't make this thread more scary then it is already. But just to give him a break, I'll do it for him:
Jesus = 74
Root from 74 = 8,602 ofcourse rounded off.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


HOLY COW MAN!  Get this:

Take the square root of Jesus

8,602

Divide by 2

4,301

Now divide by 5

860.20

Now subract

864.20

And you have

46 which is my age!  This proves I am Jesus!
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 04 2008,22:51

Exd 24:1 And he said unto Moses, Come up unto the LORD, thou, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; and worship ye afar off.  (74)

Isa 13:12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.  

1Ki 9:28 And they came to Ophir, and fetched from thence gold, four hundred and twenty talents, and brought [it] to king Solomon.

God + 12(L) = gold

G x O x D = 420

Christopher, Christ/ophir = 2/3 of the family of God.

Zero
Posted by: BWE on April 05 2008,00:45

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 25 2008,23:36)
IRON

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the
commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince
[shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built
again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

edit:

"seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks"  =   W x O x R x D ( 69 circles )

3AZ x word = 22,680 ( 90 % of 70 circles )

22,680 x ( 3 x God ) = 47, 900,160


(AZ + half AZ) x 180 = IRON (3AZ x word x 1.5)

IRON x (2 x GOD) = 47,900,160

The trinity (God x God x God) = 47,900,160

Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Is this just fun or do you actually mean anything with posts like these?
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 05 2008,05:42

Actually BWE, to me, they are both fun and meaningful.  I see a wall being built,
"even in troublous times".  Because every stone fits "without noise of hammer", I
know they are designed.

Thanks for askin'.

Zero
Posted by: BWE on April 05 2008,17:25

No problem Zero. What does the wall look like? Is there a corresponding tune?
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on April 05 2008,17:57

"Alley Cat"
Posted by: Assassinator on April 05 2008,19:30

Another Brick in the Wall?
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Posted by: BWE on April 05 2008,20:05

Quote (Assassinator @ April 05 2008,19:30)
Another Brick in the Wall?
(sorry, couldn't resist)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


See, that's the difference between you and me. :)
Posted by: Arden Chatfield on April 05 2008,20:13

Quote (Mr_Christopher @ April 04 2008,14:37)
Quote (Assassinator @ April 04 2008,13:00)
Please Christopher, don't make this thread more scary then it is already. But just to give him a break, I'll do it for him:
Jesus = 74
Root from 74 = 8,602 ofcourse rounded off.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


HOLY COW MAN!  Get this:

Take the square root of Jesus

8,602

Divide by 2

4,301

Now divide by 5

860.20

Now subract

864.20

And you have

46 which is my age!  This proves I am Jesus!
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I turn 46 this fall. Does this mean I'll be Jesus then, too?*


*Might be kind of awkward, given that I'm not a Christian. Or does becoming Jesus automatically make one a Christian?
Posted by: Nomad on April 05 2008,22:51

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ April 05 2008,20:13)
I turn 46 this fall. Does this mean I'll be Jesus then, too?*


*Might be kind of awkward, given that I'm not a Christian. Or does becoming Jesus automatically make one a Christian?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I don't think so, I mean being Jesus didn't make Jesus* a Christian.  Which also makes me think it wouldn't be awkward.  And you'd be a big hit at parties with the whole water to wine thing.

Just look out for people looking to eat your flesh or drink your blood.

*the first one, obviously.
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 07 2008,22:08

Nomad, IMO, turning water into wine and walking on water were not 'fun' things.
They were done to 'prove' he was God's son although he isn't.
How can one be a 'Christian' if Christ, Jesus's son, is not born until Rev. 12:5.

By chance....A through Z totals 351.

By chance....God (26) divided by Jesus (74) = .351351351 to infinity

By chance...One (1) divided by 74 = 0.0135135135 to infinity

By chance 135 + 351 = 486 (360 + 126) or 9 x love

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 09 2008,07:04

Zero writes: Tuesday, April, 08, 2008 9:26 AM
The everlasting gospel from heaven
Mike, are you sure you are trying to promote the right gospel?
Would God deceive the world? If he knew they would want
to kill his son, he might.

The everlasting gospel:

Sins are not "paid for", they are forgiven.
Those forgiven most will love most.
How can one be a "Christian" when Jesus's son, Christ,
is not born until Rev. 12:5?

**********************************
After posting the above on Town Hall yesterday and leaving
for the golf corse, I thought to myself, “I should have titled
that post, ‘Let there be light’, since I thought it profound.”

I pulled up to the club and was not thinking about the weather
nor did I discern any break in the cloud cover there.
As the bag boy opened the door to my van, he remarked,
“I see you brought the sunshine with you.”

Gotta go play!

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on April 10 2008,17:19

Crack is bad, mkay?
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 12 2008,13:29

< http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....s-roots >

11 April 2008
Tree of life has complexity at its roots

***********************************

Pro 3:18 She [is] a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy [is every one] that retaineth her.

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

Big mistake in calling the Tree Of Life an "it".
She is a woman, mother of all living, and has deeeeep roots.

edit/add picture
and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 20 2008,06:24

Quote (hereoisreal @ April 09 2008,07:04)
Zero writes: Tuesday, April, 08, 2008 9:26 AM
The everlasting gospel from heaven
Mike, are you sure you are trying to promote the right gospel?
Would God deceive the world? If he knew they would want
to kill his son, he might.

The everlasting gospel:

Sins are not "paid for", they are forgiven.
Those forgiven most will love most.
How can one be a "Christian" when Jesus's son, Christ,
is not born until Rev. 12:5?

**********************************
After posting the above on Town Hall yesterday and leaving
for the golf corse, I thought to myself, “I should have titled
that post, ‘Let there be light’, since I thought it profound.”

I pulled up to the club and was not thinking about the weather
nor did I discern any break in the cloud cover there.
As the bag boy opened the door to my van, he remarked,
“I see you brought the sunshine with you.”

Gotta go play!

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


About a year ago, because I had been telling Russ, the bag boy,
coincidences in my life, he told me the following story:

“My aunt died near Atlanta.  I and some of the family drove up for
her funeral and decided to spend the night there before driving back.
Since she had been an avid baseball fan, as a tribute to her, we decided
to attend a Braves game that night.
She had a habit of calling people ‘jackrabbit’ often.
During the seventh ending stretch, a trivia question was posted on
the scoreboard.... What does the term ‘Jackrabbit’ mean in baseball?
We all looked at each other in awe.”
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 20 2008,22:30

Posted by me August 19, 2006 @ 7:36 am
on the UD "Cutting Room Floor":

"Life is not about ID or evolution. It is about
family and home.

Zero"
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 20 2008,23:41

I said, "God, I've got to slow down and smell the roses."
I had deliberately leaned over to smell the artificial flowers in a restaurant
an hour before as a joke.
I then glanced at the license plate of the car parking in front of me.
It said, "POOKY 1".
The next day, Billy White, mentioned in the Ring story, came over.
Once when he began to speak, I interrupted him and said, "When
you finish, I have a cute story to tell you."
I had in mind the POOKY 1 incident.
He then continued, "I was talking to Pooky today and..."
I exclaimed, "Who's Pooky?"
He replied, "You know, Jim Polk.  We call him Pooky."
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 22 2008,07:30

How about these bulletin and church sign announcements?:

1. Don't let worry kill you - let the church help.

2. Thursday night - Potluck supper. Prayer and medication to follow.

3. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.

4. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs.

5. The rosebud on the alter this morning is to announce the birth of David Alan Belzer, the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Julius Belzer.

6. This afternoon there will be a meeting in the South and North ends of the church. Children will be baptized at both ends.

7. Tuesday at 4:00 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early.

8. Wednesday the ladies liturgy will meet. Mrs. Johnson will sing "Put me in my little bed" accompanied by the pastor.

9. Thursday at 5:00 PM there will be a meeting of the Little Mothers Club. All ladies wishing to be "Little Mothers" will meet with the Pastor in his study.

10. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar.
Posted by: BWE on April 23 2008,01:25

Quote (hereoisreal @ April 12 2008,13:29)
< http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....s-roots >

11 April 2008
Tree of life has complexity at its roots

***********************************

Pro 3:18 She [is] a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy [is every one] that retaineth her.

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

Big mistake in calling the Tree Of Life an "it".
She is a woman, mother of all living, and has deeeeep roots.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Zero, now you're talking my language. :)
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 23 2008,20:22

Thanks BWE

Rev 2:7  To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

She is protected by two cherubims and a flameing
sword that turns every way.

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims
which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will
give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 24 2008,20:42

"Bacon Tree"

Back in cowboy times, a westbound wagon train was
lost and low on food. No other humans had been seen
for days and then the pioneers saw an old Jewish rabbi
sitting beneath a tree.

"Is there some place ahead where we can get food?"
they asked.

"Vell, I tink so," the old man said, "but I wouldn't go up
dat hill und down de udder side. Somevun tole me you'd
run into a big Bacon Tree."

"A Bacon Tree?" asked the wagon train leader.

"Yah, an Bacon Tree. Vould I lie? Trust me. I vouldn't go
dere."

The leader goes back and tells his people what the rabbi
said.

"So why did he say not to go there?" a person asked.

Other pioneers said, "Oh, you know those Jewish people -
they don't eat bacon."

So the wagon train goes up the hill and down the other
side. Suddenly, Indians attack them from everywhere
and massacre all except the leader who manages to
escape and get back to the old rabbi.

Near dead, the man shouts, "You fool! You sent us to our
deaths! We followed your route but there was no bacon
tree, just hundreds of Indians who killed everyone but me."

The old Jewish man holds up his hand and says, "Oy,
vait a minute." He quickly picks up an English-Yiddish
dictionary and begins thumbing through it.

"Oy Gevalt, I made myself such ah big mishtake! It vuzn't
a Bacon Tree, it vuz a Ham Bush!!"

Zero
Posted by: BWE on April 24 2008,20:44

Gen 3:12 The man said, "The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it."


Evidently, adam did not learn shame.
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 26 2008,06:54

BWE, maybe Eve nor the serpent learned it either.  And maybe that's not a bad thing, learning the difference between good and bad.  And maybe sometimes it might be good.....  I think.

Anyway, who said shame was bad, especially if one deserves it?

Zero
Posted by: BWE on April 26 2008,18:40

Zero, Not me. THat was my point. Shame is supposed to work as a sort of corrective behavioral function but Adam absolutely missed the boat when he got caught and, wide eyed, pointed directly at Eve and said, "Nuh Uh! It was HER fault!"
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 26 2008,18:53

Quote (BWE @ April 26 2008,18:40)
Zero, Not me. THat was my point. Shame is supposed to work as a sort of corrective behavioral function but Adam absolutely missed the boat when he got caught and, wide eyed, pointed directly at Eve and said, "Nuh Uh! It was HER fault!"
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Well said.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 27 2008,21:14

We might be celebrating Christ’s birth a little early.

Let me describe a scenario that might be true:

One night as God and his wife crawled into bed, she said to him, “Honey,
I’m pregnant.”
As she slept, God created reality and tried it out. He said to mankind, ” I’m
God’s son.”
And man said, “How dare you say you are the son of the creator? Hey, everyone,
let’s kill him.”

Life is about family and home…..in that order.

God’s son, Christ, is born in Rev. 12:5…….after the cross.

IMO, God said, “I am the first and last to go to the cross. Don’t you know, 3 is the new 1.
One family. The first family.  Shame on mankind.”

Zero

< http://hereoisreal.com >
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 01 2008,12:56

Barata

"Did you see this study that came out where they found that

20 % of Asian-Americans had cataracts?", I said to a group

of golfers. "The rest drove Rinkons and Chevrorays."

The conversation then turned to balata golf balls and I said,

"You know, in Japan they call them ‘baratas’.

A day or so later, I found an old ball in the rough, picked

it up and looked at the logo. It said, ‘barata’.

***************************

The Cart Before the Coarse

4/30/08

Waiting to tee off, I said to a group of friends, "This guy was building
a lean-to sorta porch on the back of his Winnebago motor home.
He almost has it finished when his wife came out, looked and exclaimed,
"No, no honey, I said, a Porche! a Porche! "

Just then, Rick Custer came riding up on his golf cart. Someone said,

"Look! Rick has his new bag he won Sunday in the tournament."

I said, "Yeah, he now has a Win a bag o."

After getting on with Jay Donnaly and riding a few holes, I told him

what was said. He replied, " I won one too."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 01 2008,21:36

I added 34 more stories to my web site today at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

making a total of 376.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on May 01 2008,21:39

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 01 2008,21:36)
I added 34 more stories to my web site today at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

making a total of 376.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I am amazed, AMAZED, I tell you, neither of those numbers = "god".
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 01 2008,22:01

Quote (Richardthughes @ May 01 2008,21:39)
Quote (hereoisreal @ May 01 2008,21:36)
I added 34 more stories to my web site today at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

making a total of 376.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


I am amazed, AMAZED, I tell you, neither of those numbers = "god".
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Richard, I'm over half way there.
Only 328 more to go.
376 + 328 = 704 (God)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 04 2008,08:16

Poor Al Lemon, during a night out with the boys, he tied
a string on his finger to remind himself to put his ring back
on before returning home.  Being a little inebriated,  he forgot.

His epitaph reads:
 
      Here lies A. Lemon
He died with a string on his
finger and boots on his feet.

Widow Jane Lemon said, "Know why my fanger smells
like lemon pie?  It's got my rang on it.  If God gives
you a lemon, make a lemon pie."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 05 2008,13:32

Quote (BWE @ April 05 2008,17:25)
No problem Zero. What does the wall look like? Is there a corresponding tune?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


What wall?

   
Will someone call a TOE truck?

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 05 2008,15:06

The tree of life (TOL)

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Eve might have stayed.  She is protected by two cherubims and a flaming sword that turns every way.

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims
which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will
give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

Pro 3:18 She [is] a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy [is every one] that retaineth her.

Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Eve = 32
life  = 32
TOL = 32 + nothing
EVE + V = EWE
EVE + 22 = LOVE (54)
EVE x 22 = GOD (704)

Every living thing is symmetrical, just like 'EVE',
the mother of all living, the tree of life.

***************************
Adam: I've got this pain in my side.  Feels like I'm gonna have another wife.

Eve:  Take deep breaths and push while I count your ribs.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 07 2008,11:54

“Officer” turns on light

Something has been bugging me for a whole week.
I retold a happening in my life that was unusual, to
someone on the golf course, mentioning that, since I
had not made a note of it at the time it happened, I
needed to do so now.  I didn't.
Later, I asked the person I told it to, but he couldn't
recall either.

Today, 5/6/08 I glanced at a headline in the paper:
"Officer to learn if he can keep job"
It threw a switch.
Two or three years ago, my wife and I had a long conversation
about someone who, for years, claimed to be a veteran but wasn't.
The next morning, an article in the same paper, Florida Today,
said a man was being charged for impersonating a retired
officer of a branch of the service.

Zero
..............................................
Rushing water doesn't give a damn.  No pond intended.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 08 2008,20:34

5/08/08

Today, the 360th story was posted on my website.
360, to me, means "Here, O is real".

Something unusual happened tonight on Wheel of Fortune.
My wife's number starts with the letters JB.
She's always complained that the letters picked never
began with JB.
They were selected both last night and tonight, although
the following numbers were not her's.

The odds of that happening by chance are one in 456,976.

************************888
Zero's axioms:
The shortest line is two adjacent points
The smallest area is three adjacent points.
The smallest volumn is four adjacent points.

Question:

What are the odds of  establishing parallel planes  by chance?

One hent:

First, establish a given, roll, yaw, and pitch.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 09 2008,06:39

My remarks following the 360th story on my website:

                     Will the Last One Leaving
                     PLEASE TURN OUT THE LIGHT

                   You may notice I have removed my E address.
                   Of the 15 thousand or so who had hit my site
                   in the past, only 2 contacted me.  They, because
                   miracles had happened to them while reading here.
                  I have been discussing life with evolutionists for about 18            

                  months on my thread titled “Zero resurrected”.

******************************
This is an E I received last night from one of those two who had "things"
happen:

Hello!
Thats interesting, I was thinking about you this morning, because I had a

closeup God encounter. Tuesday, I was thinking at work (imagine that)

about my family and what the topic of discussion might be for our dinner

devotional. I never really think ahead about it much at all. We just usually

do it.  I decided to ask my boys (6 years and 11 years old) a question to get

the discussion going. Q: What is love. I was trying to imagine their answers,

and how we would learn about love from Jesus. I left work that day, driving

on my way home listening to Michael Youssef (Leading the Way ministries)

as I usually do. Guess how his message started. It was something like this:

Children will often have some very interesting answers to questions we ask

them. We asked some children this question, and here are some of their

enlightening answers: What is love?

The answers were precious. From sharing french fries to painting Grandma's

toenails. I got some good ideas for discussion with my family devotional time

that evening. Hearing from God (through Michael.)
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on May 09 2008,07:58



---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Jesus said “Consider the lilies
neither do they toil nor spin”
I wonder if He knew about basal metabolic rate
or a physiology based on catalysis
Even the act of contemplation
or silent prayer
is violence
perpetuated upon adenine tri phosphate
dismemberment of polypetides
is hardly
turning the other cheek.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



edited for djhay nay say quoah
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 09 2008,10:45

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ May 09 2008,07:58)


---------------------QUOTE-------------------
Jesus said “Consider the lilies
neither do they toil nor spin”
I wonder if He knew about basal metabolic rate
or a physiology based on catalysis
Even the act of contemplation
or silent prayer
is violence
perpetuated upon adenine tri phosphate
dismemberment of polypetidesis hardly
turning the other cheek.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Ras, where did that Quote come from and what
does it mean?  

It' not something I've said but thanks for bumping
my thread.

Zero
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Posted by: hereoisreal on May 09 2008,11:11

WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN?

Sometimes good things happen and sometimes bad.
Something WONDERFUL happened today.
Someone who hates my guts found out that I knew
and he's not talking about it.
***********************
True story:

I thought to myself this morning, "Sew & Soe is a control
freak.  He likes things to go his way.  So I'm one also.
I like things to go MY way."

At that moment, an announcer in a commercial on TV said,
"......and I'm gonna watch every step you take."

Zero
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on May 09 2008,12:40

zero what do you think that it means?  i have a few ideas myself.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 09 2008,21:23

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,May 09 2008,12:40)
zero what do you think that it means?  i have a few ideas myself.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Well for God's sake say it.

Zero
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on May 10 2008,11:46

I'm much more interested in what other people think about my work than going on and on about it myself.

but to me, I wrote this as a comment on the strategic maneuvering by individual soldiers during the battle of Lookout Mountain.  I also find that it is relevant to the debate over paper or plastic.  it also might mean other things that i haven't figured out yet.  that should work for starters right?
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 10 2008,14:51

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 09 2008,11:11)
True story:

I thought to myself this morning, "Sew & Soe is a control
freak.  He likes things to go his way.  So I'm one also.
I like things to go MY way."

At that moment, an announcer in a commercial on TV said,
"......and I'm gonna watch every step you take."

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


                   Two things goin' my way:


Two parallel planes.  Both have the same roll, yaw, and pitch.
The odds of this happening by "chance" is one in infinity cubed,
even for one camera click in eternity.

A given.....me.  I took the picture so one has to add another plane.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on May 10 2008,14:54

It's a nice shot, Zero.
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on May 10 2008,14:59

isn't everything improbable to the rate of infinity cubed?

nice pic.
Posted by: Lou FCD on May 10 2008,15:03

I balanced the color and sharpened and lightened it up a little for you.

ETA:  But you should take that to a pro and have them clean it up from the original to preserve it.




Posted by: hereoisreal on May 10 2008,15:38

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,May 10 2008,14:59)
isn't everything improbable to the rate of infinity cubed?

nice pic.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No Ras, From a point or circle in one plain, there
are an infinite number of directions.
Direction is defined by 3 planes. roll, yaw, and
pitch. That's why you have 3 planes in parallel
ears....to know which way is up.  They have
nothing to do with hearing and have their own
nerves to the brain.  They are our 6th sense, balance.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HumanEar.jpg >

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 10 2008,15:50

LOU:

"I balanced the color and sharpened and lightened it up a little for you.

ETA:  But you should take that to a pro and have them clean it up from the original to preserve it."
********************
Hey thanks Lou, you did a good job.
I have the original 35 mm slide which I made this
from and put in my computer about 5 years ago.
I have Microsoft suite 10 but I really don't use it
much.  Play too much golf.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on May 10 2008,16:04

*very* nice work, Lou.


You souless athiest, you.
Posted by: Lou FCD on May 10 2008,16:12

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 10 2008,16:50)
LOU:

"I balanced the color and sharpened and lightened it up a little for you.

ETA:  But you should take that to a pro and have them clean it up from the original to preserve it."
********************
Hey thanks Lou, you did a good job.
I have the original 35 mm slide which I made this
from and put in my computer about 5 years ago.
I have Microsoft suite 10 but I really don't use it
much.  Play too much golf.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


You're welcome, Zero.  You really should take the slide to a professional and get it done before it deteriorates any further.  I'm just a hack with a little bit of software.

Quote (Richardthughes @ May 10 2008,17:04)
*very* nice work, Lou.


You souless athiest, you.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Thanks Rich, but in all honesty, I just clicked a few buttons.  An aging version of PaintShopPro did all the work.
Posted by: Lou FCD on May 10 2008,16:42

Without highjacking Zero's thread for too long, this is actually the one I think I'm most proud of, more for the circumstance than the improvement in quality.  I started with a scan of a 2X3 from my mother-in-law's photoalbum:



After much effort and many hours, I wound up with a fairly nice 5X7 (though it looks much better on paper than it does in digital form, strangely):



The photo is of my brother-in-law's biological mother.  My parents-in-law adopted him and his twin sister when they were just babies.  Their biological mother was my mother-in-law's sister, who died a few years later.  A very sad ending to a very sad life, I'm afraid.

When I gave John the photo for his birthday last month, he was really thrilled.  A few days later he came and said to me,

 

---------------------QUOTE-------------------
I really like the picture, but I have a question.  Who's the woman in the picture?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



Sad but funny in a way, but neither he nor my wife had ever seen that photo for some reason.  My wife recognized her at least, though.

(Edited for abuse of grammar.)


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 10 2008,18:57

edit

Here's something I did with my mom's 5 years ago
right after I got the software:






Posted by: Lou FCD on May 10 2008,19:03

There's no option that I'm aware of for resizing an image here (like there is in an html based page).

You'd have to do it before you upload the picture.

I viewed the images where you have them uploaded to, and there aren't any borders, the images appear just as they do here.

ETA: Nice job, though!


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 11 2008,05:48

Circular reasoning:



3 planes, all on one north and south axis:
Father, son, and whole sphere, it.  (One is hidden.)

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 11 2008,09:10

To mine and all of yours,

Happy Mother's Day Mom

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 11 2008,11:54

WHAT PROFIT A MAN IF...DOES "PRO" FIT?

To get to my point, I have to tell you two incidents that I told
on my website at:

< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

First, story # 138:

PROLEXIN
          I was at a doctor's office getting a flight physical to renew my pilot's license.  I had made a note on my medical application that I had previously had some mental problems.  The doctor inquired about it and asked me what kind of medicine I had taken. I said, "I don't remember."  As he left the room for a moment I looked up on the wall.  There, he had a picture in this office, a comic picture.  It was about a tennis player and the title of the picture was "The Pro" - this brought to mine the kind of medicine I had been taking that had had such terrible affects on me mentally. (I would not recommend it to anyone.)  The name of the medicine was Prolexin, and when he came into the room I explained to him that this was the kind of thing that happened in my life often.   The only reason that I remembered the medicine Prolexin was that I had glanced up at the picture in his office.

Second, story # 350:

BARATA

"Did you see this study that came out where they found that
20 % of Asian-Americans had cataracts?", I said to a group of golfers. "The rest drove Rinkons and Chevrorays."
The conversation then turned to balata golf balls and I said,
"You know, in Japan they call them ‘baratas’.
A day or so later, I found an old ball in the rough, picked it up and looked at the logo. It said, ‘barata’.

Today, Mother's Day* '08, I was outside on our patio. My mind was wandering and I began to have a fixation on words that start with "pro".... like profit, progress, procreate, etc...all positive words because that's what pro means, plus.  I then thought about  'Prolexin' and it crossed my mind to say, "In Japan they call it ....." when a breeze folded the napkins in front of me back, displaying nothing but the word "REX" in big red letters.

A gentle breeze
stirs the trees.
Wind's affect
Is what one sees.

             By Zero

* When I typed the word "Mother", the phone rang.  It was Rick calling to wish his mother a Happy Mother's Day.

When I E'd my family this, I attached a note below:

"I was going to type "Prorexin" in the 'subject' box when I had second thoughts.  Some of you would think it was Viagra spam."
EDIT/picture

Posted by: hereoisreal on May 13 2008,00:07



ALBINO PEACOCK

A friend sent me this picture of the
rare bird. Kinda looks like a snow flake.
As I was scanning this, I heard one calling near my home.
Unusual because I only hear them every few months.

Before I met my wife, for years I lived in an orange grove.  A flock
of wild peacocks, if that’s what they’re called, lived there too, so I
saw and heard them daily.

Now we live in town.  For 20 years, I’ve heard them occasionally but
not seen any.
A week after I scanned the picture and sent it to my tec, I E’d him,
“ I don’t see the peacock yet.” and then walked outside.
Four birds were on my lawn walking toward my neighbor’s.
I called him on the phone and said, “There are four peacocks on your
front porch.  Have you been feeding them?”
He replied, “No, but there were five of them here last week.”

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 14 2008,15:03

.
Challenges to the Watchmaker Argument
Incoherence:
George H. Smith, in his book Atheism: The Case Against God, points out what he considers to be a fatal flaw in the watchmaker argument. He states:
Consider the idea that nature itself is the product of design. How could this be demonstrated? Nature, as we have seen, provides the basis of comparison by which we distinguish between designed objects and natural objects. We are able to infer the presence of design only to the extent that the characteristics of an object differ from natural characteristics. Therefore, to claim that nature as a whole was designed is to destroy the basis by which we differentiate between artifacts and natural objects. Evidences of design are those characteristics not found in nature, so it is impossible to produce evidence of design within the context of nature itself. Only if we first step beyond nature, and establish the existence of a supernatural designer, can we conclude that nature is the result of conscious planning. (p. 268)

Thus, Smith concludes, the watchmaker "argument" is not valid for demonstrating the existence of God nor ID.
What Smith is saying is, "All nature (life) is natural. One must go beyond or outside
of reality to find an IDOL ( Intelligent Designer of Life ).

I say, all natural is chaos and all chaos is natural.    Life, order, and symmetry are the
exceptions, mind made.

                                                Chambered Nautilus?
                                        < http://hereoisreal.com/chance.jpg >

Pro 11:1 A false balance [is] abomination to the LORD: but a just weight [is] his delight.
                                           
                                       

                   Some things that are symetrical:  Are they by chance?  
Crystals?  
Snowflakes?
Numbers?
Letters?  
Words?
   The letter              V
  The words            EVE
                           LEVEL
                      DE/SIGN/ED   (This world will get one SIGN)
                I AM / THAT / I AM         SIGN = THAT (49)
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the LEAVES of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.
                                    < http://hereoisreal.com/leaf2.JPEG >  

                                     The family of GOD: (3 in 1)
                                < http://hereoisreal.com/trinity4.jpg >


                                         2112 = 3 x 704 (GOD)
                                 2/11/2 = U 12 (11 hidden in 3 me.)

                                ( 2/3 of the trinity = 1408)
                             
       <    
        <a href="http://hereoisreal.com/pregnan....ant.jpg >" target="_blank">http://hereoisreal.com/pregnant.jpg[/URL]</a>
                                                   

                                2 x IRON x GOD = 47,900,160

                                < http://hereoisreal.com/iron.jpg >

                                 The first family = God + God + God (26 x 3 )
                                  Adam + Cain + Eve =78 ( 3 x God )
            "You 12" = 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 ( 78 )
                      U 12 x 1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12 = 47,900,160

                   
My "Rock of All Ages" at the end of my website at:

< http://hereoisreal.com >

More pictures of the family:
< http://hereoisreal.com/images/trinity1.jpg >
< http://hereoisreal.com/images/Drisin >

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 15 2008,15:32

Rev 20:7  And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

Rev 20:8  And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.

Rev 20:9  And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


"Knock Knock"

"Who's there?" asked St. Peter from behind the door.

"Hey, Pete, it's me,  St Paul, let me in!  I've got a great army with me and we want to help.  I wrote half the bible and I think I have the mind of God.  I even brought my Paul bearers along with some pretty big names in the church.

St Peter replied, "Well, actually I don't have a key for this door.  It's sorta private for God's family.
I just happened to hear you knocking as I was on the way to see my mother-in-law.  It worrys her sick that I have to be responsible for locking and unlocking the north and south gates morning and night.
You know, you  caught us at a bad time.  You really should have called first.  Today's the Lord's
day and he's taken his grandson and some of his friends down to the creek fishin' again.  It's a catch
and release thing.  I've gone along sometimes just to see the delight in the grandson's eyes when
he sees the piece of money in a fish's mouth.  I still don't know how the Lord does it but that's OK.
The kid thinks grandpa walks on water."

St Paul,  " Pete, lookin' up, I see a line of little people standing on top of the wall, all the way around the city. What, may I ask, are they doing?"

St Peter, " Oh them?  They're not 'doing' anything.  Don't even pay them any mind.  They're
just peons.  They are some of the least here and have come  to watch the fireworks."

"Fireworks!  What fireworks?"

St Peter, " Here in heaven we just have two rules: Kinda simple, love God with all your heart and  your neighbor as thy self.

"Sound's great.  I can live with that."

St Peter, "Actually, that's just the first rule. The second is 'Never piss on someone on fire.'"

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 17 2008,13:49

The first shall be last, the day that color died:

My wife was reading the Florida Today next to me when I glanced at the obits in view.
At the very top, I noticed 'Black' and 'Brown'.  I said jokeingly, "I see all the colors are dying today."
I thought to myself, "Boy, I'm sure glad I'm white because white is not a color. I started scanning down the  column looking for another color when she beat me to it.  She said, "Here's a 'White'."  It was the last one.

5/17/08
Color them gone

When we went to a graduation this morning, after being handed a program I noticed
the last of the nine students was named 'White'.  I said to Joan, " I'm sure there's another color on there." There was.  It wasn't a last name but a first, 'Amber'.

Ironically,  Big Brown won the Preakness in the afternoon.


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 18 2008,11:26

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7HYVE-Oeo >

Enjoy
Posted by: Assassinator on May 18 2008,12:19

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 18 2008,11:26)
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7HYVE-Oeo >

Enjoy
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Awwwww that really is cute, most of the time's those shows are just mindless laughing material. But there sure are gems.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 18 2008,18:05

Quote (Assassinator @ May 18 2008,12:19)
Quote (hereoisreal @ May 18 2008,11:26)
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7HYVE-Oeo >

Enjoy
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Awwwww that really is cute, most of the time's those shows are just mindless laughing material. But there sure are gems.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Thanks,glad you liked it.  I did.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 18 2008,18:29

5/17/08 was a busy day:

------------------------------------------------------------------

SUPER DUPER POOPER SCOOPER (story # 284)

One of God’s laws which he said was to be kept forever, and ever, and ever, requires every soldier in God’s

army, to carry a foxhole-type shovel, permanently attached to the other end of their spears.  This is not for

digging foxholes.  It is to be used each and every time you do your “business” in the camp.  The point

emphasized is, that should someone fail to cover it up, the Angel of the Lord just might step in it when he is

walking about the area at night.  The consequence of this, should it happen, is not described, but I for one,

would not want to put it to the test.*

Ps:

Thursday, November 18, 2004, I opened my paper to find an article written by Billy Cox in the Florida Today

newspaper. He did a feature about me several years ago.
A woman, named Julie Arnold, had a pet clean up service called, "SUPERDUPER POOPER SCUPPER".
I had the article on my scanner a few days later as I was working with a family member at my computer.
I glanced at my scanner and thought,
"I'll tell her about this item in the paper."
Then I changed my mind and kept on working at my desk as she left the room.
A few minutes later, Joan, my wife, stuck her head in the door and exclaimed,
"Paula just stepped in some dog poop."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
*Today,5/17/08 I was thinking about the above story when I glanced down to the Florida Today
newspaper which gave me an answer:

--------------------------------------------------------------

5/16/08 Color them gone:

My wife was reading the Florida Today next to me when I glanced at the obits in view.
At the very top, I noticed 'Black' and 'Brown'.  I said jokeingly, "I see all the colors are dying today."
I thought to myself, "Boy, I'm sure glad I'm white because white is not a color. I started scanning down the  

column looking for another color when she beat me to it.  She said, "Here's a 'White'."  It was the last one.

We went to a graduation the next morning.  After being handed a program I noticed
the last of the nine students was named 'White'.  I said to Joan, " I'm sure there's another
color on there." There was.  It wasn't a last name but a first, 'Amber'.
Ironically,  Big Brown won the Preakness in the afternoon.


Our family was playing poker last night when Bobby had a diamond royal flush.
This was pictured the next morning in the Florida Today
 
Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 18 2008,22:21



Mother goose in wolf's clothing
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 20 2008,08:54

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 18 2008,18:29)
5/17/08 was a busy day:

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SUPER DUPER POOPER SCOOPER (story # 284)

One of God’s laws which he said was to be kept forever, and ever, and ever, requires every soldier in God’s

army, to carry a foxhole-type shovel, permanently attached to the other end of their spears.  This is not for

digging foxholes.  It is to be used each and every time you do your “business” in the camp.  The point

emphasized is, that should someone fail to cover it up, the Angel of the Lord just might step in it when he is

walking about the area at night.  The consequence of this, should it happen, is not described, but I for one,

would not want to put it to the test.*

Ps:

Thursday, November 18, 2004, I opened my paper to find an article written by Billy Cox in the Florida Today

newspaper. He did a feature about me several years ago.
A woman, named Julie Arnold, had a pet clean up service called, "SUPERDUPER POOPER SCUPPER".
I had the article on my scanner a few days later as I was working with a family member at my computer.
I glanced at my scanner and thought,
"I'll tell her about this item in the paper."
Then I changed my mind and kept on working at my desk as she left the room.
A few minutes later, Joan, my wife, stuck her head in the door and exclaimed,
"Paula just stepped in some dog poop."
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*Today,5/17/08 I was thinking about the above story when I glanced down to the Florida Today
newspaper which gave me an answer:

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5/16/08 Color them gone:

My wife was reading the Florida Today next to me when I glanced at the obits in view.
At the very top, I noticed 'Black' and 'Brown'.  I said jokeingly, "I see all the colors are dying today."
I thought to myself, "Boy, I'm sure glad I'm white because white is not a color. I started scanning down the  

column looking for another color when she beat me to it.  She said, "Here's a 'White'."  It was the last one.

We went to a graduation the next morning.  After being handed a program I noticed
the last of the nine students was named 'White'.  I said to Joan, " I'm sure there's another
color on there." There was.  It wasn't a last name but a first, 'Amber'.
Ironically,  Big Brown won the Preakness in the afternoon.


Our family was playing poker last night when Bobby had a diamond royal flush.
This was pictured the next morning in the Florida Today
 
Zero
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Sorry, in my haste, my original post looked
like crap so I decided to clean it up:


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 20 2008,21:23

Gen 2:7  And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

dust (64)

ground  (g / round ) =  7 x 360 ( beginning, foundation )

70 seven fold (8960) x 99 (sheep) x love (54) = 47,900,160

Luk 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city,
shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.  

feet    (36)  36 % of 7,000 = 2,520

dust   (64)

64 % of 7 days (7000 years) = 4480 (70 six fold)

   <------------------------7,000 years----------------------------------------->

   <-----------------2520------>*<---4480------------------------------------>

   <----------------6,000 years-------------------->**<--- 1,000 years------->
   <--------------6 work days--------------------->**<--- 1 rest day -------->


Isa 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven [is] my throne, and the earth [is] my footstool:
where [is] the house that ye build unto me? and where [is] the place of my rest?

The word 'GOD' says:

"Seven 360's folded once."

Jhn 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there
shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O
daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee:
he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass,
and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Mat 21:5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee,
meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.***

* Pass over
** Hands
***AZ (39 x 9)

Zero


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 21 2008,03:52

In reference to "hands" in the above post, read
the 359th story on my website at:

< http://hereoisreal.com >

Zero
Posted by: Moorit on May 21 2008,10:14

Delurking twice in one day?  Eek.



Not some of my best work, but I hope you like it.  And I can make it a little tidier if you like; some of the edges are still a little harsh.  I just didn't want to go too crazy on it if you like it the way it is.

Now, I really, really have to lurk.  And drink more coffee.  Lots more coffee.

ETA: after realizing that there's a difference between "too" and "to" for a reason.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 21 2008,13:10

Hey, thanks Moorit (with 2 o's).  That I really appreciate.
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Now, I had a post ready sooo, with 3 O's, here it is:

< http://hereoisreal.com/word.jpg >

John 1:1  In the beginning was the WORD.
One word is given: "WORD"

I had just talked to Matt Reed on the telephone telling him about how his newspaper headlines tomorrow, what I thought today.  He said, "Well maybe we can read your mind." and we both laughted.
I gave him the following example and told him it was written up on my website.
When I began to write this now, I wanted to reference, by story number, " When Hell Met Law ".
It wasn't there. Some  how, in all my notes, it was lost. However, I had posted it on page # 2 on my
thread at: < http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....9;st=60 >

It's now story # 254 and reads:


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I said to my housekeeper one day, " Heaven is hell without law and order.

When hell meets the law, the shit will hit the fan."

The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read,
"Helmet Law Inforcement Begins".

I saved the paper.

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I posted here:

        "Seven circles = 2520"

I then walked out to my patio and  Florida Today
story was in my face.  It said:

"Seven circles equals 'regular Joe' + WORD" (2520)

Edit/wrong picture  http://hereoisreal.com/word.jpg  

Two more "Florida Today" features are echos today:

One to "Super Dooper" story # 285 on my site,

and one about "real life echoes, exactly what Mr. Reed and I were talking about. (in "Law & Order" )

< http://hereoisreal.com/life.gif >

Zero
Posted by: Moorit on May 21 2008,15:17

You are more than welcome.  And it has to be "Moorit" with "oo", else it would be "Morit" with "o", which isn't a word.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 22 2008,21:21



Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden,
God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Mother Nature said to Daughter Nature on her wedding day, "Hon, I have some
advice for you.  If it looks dead and you have
to touch it to get it to grow, trust me, you don't need it."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 23 2008,03:37

OK, I thought surely I'd get a rise out of someone
but over night, it didn't happen.

Here's another tidbit.  It took me a life time to learn
so I hope everyone waits at least 30 minutes before
making a comment:

Love is not a two-way street.  Want your kids to
love and respect you?  They can't do both.

Zero

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Edit/add/again: 06:22 AM
About 30 minutes after posting my edit, my wife
awoke and I put drops in her eye.  The first thing
she said was, "It sure is dark in here."
I then showed her my post.

When I took her to the eye doctor the other day,
he said to me, "I have good news and bad news.
Your wife's eye is much improved but even if she
gets back to 20/20, you're still gonna be ugly."
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 23 2008,07:01



Kids do the darnest things.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 23 2008,22:01



Exd 11:5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die,
from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne,
even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that [is] behind the mill;
and all the firstborn of beasts.

Clearly, we don't see the whole picture.

Zero   
Posted by: Reciprocating Bill on May 24 2008,12:54

OK. True story.

So yesterday my kid played in her final concert with the wonderful Contemporary Youth Orchestra, based here in the Land of Cleves, and it was great. The theme of this year's "Rock the Orchestra" concert was hip-hop. Among the guest artists was Grandmixer DXT, credited as the first musician to scratch a needle rhymically over a vinyl record.

Cyrus Taylor, physicist and dean of arts and sciences at Case Western Reserve Univerisity, also has a kid in the orchestra and was there with his family, just a couple rows ahead of me. I've chatted briefly with him and thought about saying hello. I formulated a quip about his keeping Lawrence Krauss in check, but (mercifully) the opportunity passed.

This morning I picked up yesterday's Cleveland Plain Dealer. There in the Metro section is a story about Krauss leaving CWRU for Arizona State University to form an "origins institute." Cyrus Taylor is quoted in the story expressing his regrets over Krauss' departure.

Wow, says I. Pretty good coincidence. Glad I didn't snark to Cyrus about Larry.

So I'm musing about the concert. Among the compositions played was Farandole ("circle dance"), the last movement of George Bizet's L'Ariesienne Suite No. 2, as arranged for Bob James' 1975 album Two - a jazz-fusion classic that influenced many hip-hop artists. Grandmixer DXT accompanied on drums. Great stuff. They played it twice.

I've got the original classical Bizet on LP, so this morning I pulled it out and played it. I planned to play it for my kid.

Now, unlike the direct drive turntables used by Grandmixer DXT, mine has a 6lb platter rotated by a 35" rubber belt. The belt rounds the motor pulley, just 6mm in diameter, then the heavy 12" platter itself. This 46 year old belt's days are numbered: it has developed a small tear. When powering down the table I routinely ensure that the belt hasn't stopped with the tear positioned directly on the tiny pulley - that would open the tear, add stress and likely hasten the belt's demise. Unlikely, to be sure, and in fact it has never happened, but this belt will be difficult to replace. So I muse on Cyrus Taylor and Lawrence Krauss and wait for the table to spin down. I think on probabilities, coincidence, Farandole, Dembski, hip hop, turntables, inertia, and origins. Methinks: It would be quite something if the tear indeed stops on the pulley. The table stops.

The tear is positioned directly, precisely on the tiny pulley.

Wow, says I. Another pretty good coincidence. Second in the hour, too, and one that occurred while I was musing on probability and coincidence, which promotes it to metaincidence. I reported this to my wife. I wondered: maybe I'm passing though some sort of coincidence habitable zone. She says that she in fact also experienced a remarkable coincidence yesterday - but won't say what. So it could be true.

So last week my kid brought home a 6" thick stack of LPs. Another orchestra dad was giving a truckload away away during rehearsal (sure wish I had known). This morning, having just heard the original Bizet arrangement of Farandole, she insisted I play one of the LPs she picked up: More Hawaii Calls: Greatest Hits. "Sure," says I, "but not if it's in bad condition." But the LP, recorded in the early 1960s, has never been opened. I split the shrink wrap and we listened to pristine 1960s Hawaii schmaltz.  

This is time travel, so I scanned the album cover looking for the date on which this turkey was recorded. Most LPs of that era aren't dated, true for this one, too. But on the back cover I find, "Produced by WEBLEY EDWARDS and BILL MILLER.

My name happens to be Bill Miller. (So stalk me.)  

Wow, says I. Yet another pretty good coincidence. Third in 90 minutes. Fourth if you include the metaincidences. Or is it the fifth? But then there is Zero's thread...

Which raises the question, What does it all mean? It must mean something. And it does:

Shit happens.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 24 2008,16:33

Bill, someone finally reciprocated, so I'll try do like wise.  Your post was very clear, concise and down to the point.  I wish I could converse with people as well.
I believe everything you said is true and yes, shit happens.
The degree of difficulty in a happening might determine, in your mind and mine, whether it was by chance or mind-made.

If a billion people at one time, flipped a coin and they all came up heads, we can figure the odds on that.  So what?  It probably was by chance.  If they all did it again, with tails showing, again, so what?
Give credit to chance.
However, if they all flipped a third time and everyone's coin stood on edge, I'm sure science might want to look into it, using the right tools of course.  I just believe in giving credit where credit is due.

Thanks Bill, for posting.

Zero
Posted by: rhmc on May 24 2008,17:04

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 24 2008,17:33)
The degree of difficulty in a happening might determine, in your mind and mine, whether it was
by chance or mind-made.

If...
If ...
if...
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yup.
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 24 2008,17:42

Quote (rhmc @ May 24 2008,17:04)
Quote (hereoisreal @ May 24 2008,17:33)
The degree of difficulty in a happening might determine, in your mind and mine, whether it was
by chance or mind-made.

If...
If ...
if...
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yup.
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Yep
Yep
Yep, life has an "if" in the middle.

"If" none of us had a sense of balance, our
6th sence, like Satan, we'd all be crawling
around on our bellies.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 24 2008,21:13

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2008,22:32)
Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
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HERE, O IS  REAL

Circular reasoning:

A = 1,  B = 2,  C = 3,  etc,  Z =  26 ( GOD )

GOD  = 1260
GOD = 54 (LOVE)
GOD = 704
O = 1260 ( 20  squared   x 3.15 ) or 7 x 360 divided by 2 (7 x 180 )



         9 x 1260



       IRON   (Rev. 12:5)


 
         Love x 1260

1260 x 54 x 704  =  47, 900, 160

2 x iron x 704 =  47,900,160

Zero
Posted by: Reciprocating Bill on May 24 2008,21:25

I think we've got some sort of resonance going here in the coincidence habitable zone, zero. The (sorta ugly) poster from the CYO concert last night:


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 24 2008,21:29


Posted by: hereoisreal on May 24 2008,21:59

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 24 2008,21:25)
I think we've got some sort of resonance going here in the coincidence habitable zone, zero. The (sorta ugly) poster from the CYO concert last night:


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Yeah,I was a helicopter pilot the last two years in the Marine Corps.
They called me the disk jockey.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 25 2008,04:53

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 24 2008,17:42)
Quote (rhmc @ May 24 2008,17:04)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ May 24 2008,17:33)
The degree of difficulty in a happening might determine, in your mind and mine, whether it was
by chance or mind-made.

If...
If ...
if...
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yup.
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Yep
Yep
Yep, life has an "if" in the middle.

"If" none of us had a sense of balance, our
6th sence, like Satan, we'd all be crawling
around on our bellies.

Zero
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Here is my "If" post from page nine of this thread.  Because it has the "plan of salvation"
in it, I felt I should bring it forward rather than just refer to it.

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What if?

Here are some hypothetical scenarios, not reality,
so I’ll be brief.

What if there was no light?  There would be no eyes.
What if there was no sound?  There would be no ears.
What if there was no direction?  There would be no up or down, East or West.
What if there was no symmetry?  There would be no word ‘level’.
What if there was no time?  The sun would not rise tomorrow.
What if there were no babies?  There would be no breasts.
What if there was no bush?  There would be no burning bush.
What if there was no A and Z?  There would be no B through Y.
What if there was no whole?  There would be no leaven in 3 measures.
What if there was no O?  There would be no +1 or -1.
What if there was no beginning and end?  There would be no middle
What if  life didn’t have  an ‘if’ in the middle?  It would be called  le.
What if  life didn’t have  an ‘f’ in the middle?  It would be a lie.

Edit  Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Edit  If God is a puzzle and you have all the pieces, the first and last
are the easiest to find.  The middle might be a problem.

The measure of a man’s life is written on his tombstone, between
birth and death. Life is in the middle.
IMO, life does have an ‘if’ in the middle.  Check out the
ifs in Ezekiel.

Eze 33:13  When I shall say to the righteous, [that] he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and

commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he

shall die for it.
Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is

lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  [If] the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without

committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
Eze 33:16  None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful

and right; he shall surely live.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 25 2008,06:04

God said, " Adam, I'm thinking about making you a partner who will sometimes be the apple of your eye, and sometimes be a thorn in your side, but she's gonna cost you a rib or an eye."

Adam asked, "What would a rib eye steak cost me?  Medium rare please."

_

Adam:
"Honey, what's this bath powder doing in my shorts?"
Eve:
"Honey, that's not bath powder.  It's Miracle Grow."

Eve:
"Honey, I just fed some of that fruit that fell
on the ground to your pet snake."
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 25 2008,07:54

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 03 2007,23:20)
Posted Apr 15th 2007 7:28AM

Don Ho dead at 76
Hawaiian singer Don Ho, whose most famous song was "Tiny Bubbles," died yesterday morning in Honolulu of a heart attack.

With Don Imus's remarks about hoes flooding the news for a week, you might imagine my suspecting the finger of fate in the above news as I and my wife flew off to Hawaii the morning of the 15th.

I had already thought up several hoe jokes, like Imus imitating Santa's, "HO HO HO" etc., when my wife cautioned me not to mention Don Ho in any of those while on our trip.  She thought it would not be in good taste and I agreed.

I was on our balcony aboard ship in Pearl Harbor
naming "hoes":
hosanna, Hose, holy, holey, wholly, etc. when a tugboat passed alongside and docked.  The name on her bow....Namahoe

The evening of the day we returned home, someone won a trip to Hawaii on the Wheel Of Fortune.  We then watched a rerun of "Pearl Harbor".

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

paradise....pair rode AZ   Zec. 9:9

Zero





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See story # 355 at < http://www.hereoisreal.com >

A rib from Adam:

Eve said, " There are horse shoes, house shoes,
and hoe shoes.  Are mermaid shoes for real?"
Adam replied, " I don't know.  You'll have to
ask Mer."
Eve: "Ha Ha ha"
Adam: "No No No, it's Ho Ho Ho.  Mrs. Claus."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 25 2008,09:40



Jan 18, 1997

I drew a picture of the word 'GOD' with the O depicted as a hole with someone trying to put a square peg in it.

The next morning the exact cartoon was in my paper with only one modification: Instead of ‘GOD’, the word was 'GOP'

Happy Birthday Paley, we miss you.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 25 2008,17:24

Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro
in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.


Satan was walking with an angel to and fro when he asked, "Who's that over there in his garden with a hoe?   The angel replied, " Oh, that's just Don Imus coverin' up his business."
Satan exclamed, "Hoely shit!  He's at it again?  Some people never learn."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 26 2008,07:12

Quote (hereoisreal @ May 24 2008,16:33)
Bill, someone finally reciprocated, so I'll try do like wise.  Your post was very clear, concise and down to the point.  I wish I could converse with people as well.
I believe everything you said is true and yes, shit happens.
The degree of difficulty in a happening might determine, in your mind and mine, whether it was by chance or mind-made.

If a billion people at one time, flipped a coin and they all came up heads, we can figure the odds on that.  So what?  It probably was by chance.  If they all did it again, with tails showing, again, so what?
Give credit to chance.
However, if they all flipped a third time and everyone's coin stood on edge, I'm sure science might want to look into it, using the right tools of course.  I just believe in giving credit where credit is due.

Thanks Bill, for posting.

Zero
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Bill, a cute, (to me) thing happened this morning.
I was wondering why you, nor any one else, wanted
to continue the conversation.  Perhaps, I thought,
" To other people, my example was a little far fetched,
silly, or outside reality. I then thought to myself, " There
are perhaps 4 to 6 billion people alive now, 2/3 of
which are standing on edge, the rest are resting, asleep."
That many more are resting outside of reality."

Remember what Jesus said of the little girl:

"She's not dead.  She's sleeping." ( She's not using
her sense of balance.)

So, to me, anyone standing on edge is a miracle.

Of course, just then, a UPS commercial appeared on
TV, by chance, and the announcer said, "We'll
take care of everything."

When God uses his footstool, he is resting,
not lying down.

Zero

ps: search “footstool” in the Blue Letter Bible .
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 26 2008,11:10

God said to Adam, "Son, you can eat of every tree in my garden except the tree of knowledge of good and evil. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole."

Adam asked, " Why ".

"Because, if you know, you'll spend your whole life workin' your ass off fixin' or replaceing everything that's wrong, broken, worn out, rusty, used up, mixed up, messed up, stolen or dead, and that doesn't even include the Honey Dew list."

Adam, "Honey Dew!  What's a Honey Dew list?"  

God, " Oh, that's a Honey Do list given with a wet kiss."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on May 26 2008,16:55

Well, we're all packed up to head for the mountains
in North Caroline early in the morning.  I'll be down
for a couple of days while we travel.
We have 3 1/2 acres with lots of deer and turkeys.
I built a little par 3 down the mountain side so
besides watching the grass grow and mowing my
green, I watch the grass grow.
Of course, I packed my pet rock and 3 legged dog.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 14 2008,22:58

Great site:

< http://www.worldwidetelescope.org >

Wouldn't you know, I left my 3 legged dog on the
kitchen counter in Florida.

My wife swares I have an in with God.  I wanted
to replace our small TV up here but she said the
old one was fine.  I also hated my Dell here but
never mentioned looking for another.  Three weeks
ago lightning hit both.
I am now blessed with a 50" plazma TV & an Acer
with a 22" monitor.  Miracles happen.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 17 2008,00:45

< http://www.pandasthumb.org/ >

NatGeo Tweaks ID ‘Just For The Halibut’

Eleven years ago my wife and I were in a lounge on a cruse ship having  drinks before dinner, when our waiter walked over to a window nearby and stood looking out for a while.

When he returned to our table, I asked him what  was so interesting outside.  He replied, “I was looking for halibut.”  This did not seem strange to me, since
he had just served us hors d'oeuvers, small fried halibut fingers, with our drinks.

It finally dawned on me later, the real meaning of his remark.  
Hale-Bopp was visible that week in the early evening sky.
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 19 2008,21:09

Bathroom news:

While traveling here to North Carolina last month, I pulled into a service station for a restroom stop. As I reached for toilet paper, I thought, “If they make this paper any narrower, I’ll have to split my finger to wipe my ass.”  When I pulled to tear, a one inch wide strip remained on the roll.  I told my wife about it.

The next week, as she and I were playing golf, she hollered out to me from a restroom, “ Honey, you gotta’ come see this.”
When I opened the door, she showed me a roll of toilet paper. Someone had started unrolling by using only one half of the width and that practice had continued for almost a full roll.

................................

In our bathroom here in the mountains, we have a basket on the floor containing rolled bath towels with magazines standing behind them. One day I rushed in and grabbed a towel to sop up a water leak.
As I am doing my business later in the day, I look straight ahead. There was only one word visible, part of the title of a cruse brochure to the Panama Canal, ‘anal’.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 19 2008,22:41

I'm leaving for Atlantic City tomarrow.  Hope I'll
be there a week.  A friend drove there in his new
$100,000 Rolls last year.  Came home in a $800,000
Greyhound bus.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 29 2008,22:25

and let there be light:

Isn’t it ironic.  All the tissue and fluids between the eye lid and retina of all normal eyes are clear and transparent, even some eye lids.
How does chance know there is a need for transparency
when it comes to creating the eye?  No other parts
in the human body are transparent.
How would chance know there was light if there was no eye to see?
How would chance know there was a need for an eye?
Would chance build an eye if there was no light in the universe?
If no one had an eye, would we talk or think about light?  See it in our mind?
How could chance know when it got it right? (eye design)
How does chance know where to send the upside down and backward electric impulses, in the two optic nerves,  converted from light in the retina and how does chance convert them back again in the mind?
Why does chance give you two eyes for depth perception and two ears for stereo when one nose, one mouth, one tongue,  one belly button, and one sex organ do quite well?

I made my gas money in Atlantic City.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on July 31 2008,09:56

You could actually do some research to how far scientists are with explaining that yourself, start here: < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye >
or something among the 611.000 results found on Google Scholar when you search for "eye evolution": < http://scholar.google.nl/scholar....=Zoeken >
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 31 2008,10:04

The eye is no better than it’s foundation, beginning, (cornea) nor
better than it’s weakest link to the brain.
Today, my wife is seeing a cornea specialist.  She was
given an anti-biotic last year for an eye inflammation and she
had a reaction from the drug which caused damage to the
outer edge of her cornea.  Science now has a treatment or procedure
that grows new cells which smooths the surface of the cornea
instead of  replacing it.  

We as humans, as well as other living creatures with eyes, can not “see” light or reality.  
We only “see” or “read” a stream of electronic pulses sent at the speed of light through several million nerves bundled in what we call the two optic nerves.  The length of the optic nerves varies  from a few microns in dust mites to as much as several feet in whales.
Just as a television camera from around the world sends a picture in pixels
to our living room, the mind “reads” the optic nerve.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 31 2008,10:14

Quote (Assassinator @ July 31 2008,09:56)
You could actually do some research to how far scientists are with explaining that yourself, start here: < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye >
or something among the 611.000 results found on Google Scholar when you search for "eye evolution": < http://scholar.google.nl/scholar....=Zoeken >
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Thanks Assassinator
I'll do that.

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on July 31 2008,17:19

Nice to see you back, Hero. Hope you're doing well.
Posted by: hereoisreal on July 31 2008,22:33

Quote (Richardthughes @ July 31 2008,17:19)
Nice to see you back, Hero. Hope you're doing well.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Yes, I am Richard and thanks for askin'.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 01 2008,23:15

The following was sent to The Ledger in Lakewood, FL:

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Today was a good day.

I was thinking about putting this ad in a national paper:
**************************
360  miracles and more at:
< http://www.hereoisreal.com >

*************************
then had second thoughts.  “No one would believe it.  It’s
too many miracles.” I said to myself.
At that moment, the TV news announcer exclaimed, “Miracles,
more miracles, and yes, more miracles.”
He was reporting on the revival in Lakeland Florida.
******************************

< http://www.theledger.com/article....Weekend >


By Cary McMullen

THE LEDGER

Published: Friday, August 1, 2008 at 12:22 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 1, 2008 at 2:20 p.m.
LAKELAND | The tents are coming down early at the Todd Bentley revival.

The Pentecostal revival, which has drawn hundreds of thousands of people since it began April 2, will move back to Ignited Church in North Lakeland after Saturday’s service, said Lynne Breidenbach, spokeswoman for Bentley.
The revival has been meeting in two large tents on the grounds of Sun n’ Fun Fly-in since early June.
Bentley announced last week that he would leave the revival on Aug. 23, and leaders said then the revival would continue at Ignited Church, where it started.
Breidenbach said Friday the early relocation would make the transition smoother.
The Canadian evangelist has been traveling more frequently in recent weeks, turning leadership of the revival services to others, and Breidenbach said there have been fewer people attending the services.
Bentley is still scheduled to lead services the week of Aug. 18 and will make occasional appearances after that, she said.

************************

Small world:

8/01/08
Obama Makes Quick Stop in Lakeland

Barack Obama made it to Lakeland after all today, carrying the message of strengthening the economy.
But he did not make a trip to Munn Park in downtown Lakeland, which for days had been the rumored destination.

*****************************************

Two stories from my web site:

WALK TO ARCHIE   (story # 202)

Flipping channels one day, I stopped shortly to see a beautiful little child being prompted to “walk” in a “healing” service.
I prayed, “O God, this little child should not be ‘used’ in this manner. I wish I had him in my arms.” Just then the preacher commanded loudly, “Walk to Archie.”

ANOTHER ANGEL   (story # 204)

September 3, 1991, I had inadvertently bumped my glass against something several times on the table, causing a ding or ping sound. I had done this enough times that I asked God “Why?”
Someone on TV was interviewing a famous person; I’m not sure but I think it was Lamb Chop’s Sherry North. During their conversation, a ping was heard from off camera and Sherry said in response, “Another angel just got their wings”.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 03 2008,23:04

Heaven was the first thing God created after there was light.  (Gen 1:8)
Because it is built on a rock, it is the only thing in creation that doesn’t change or move.
The first thing the preacher at the First Baptist Church in Atlanta, Ga. said this morning was:
“And God would move heaven and earth to……..”

**********************************
His father’s business:
 
Mat 21:28 ¶ But what think ye? A [certain] man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said,
Son, go work to day in my vineyard.

Mat 21:29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.

Mat 21:30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I [go], sir: and went not.
Mat 21:31 Whether of them twain did the will of [his] father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

IMO, Jesus said, “I’m going to ask you a question and if you answer,
you will be one of the last to inter the kingdom of heaven.”
(If it’s none of  your business, don’t make it your business, be indifferent.)

In Rev. 3:16 Jesus said, “ I’m your business.  Love me or hate me.  Just don’t sit on the fence and be indifferent.  I hate indifference.”

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Eve, the mother of all living, asked God, “This serpent that’s been talking to me seems to have a forked tongue.  Is he for real?”  (edit 8/5)

God replied, “If he looks like a snake, walks like a snake, and talks like a snake, trust me, he’s a snake.”

***************************************


Here’s one for the fundamentalists:

1Ch 21:12 Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh [thee]; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me.

2Sa 24:13 So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue thee? or that there be three days' pestilence in thy land? now advise, and see what answer I shall return to him that sent me.

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Mat 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven,
which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

G + D = 7 + 4, 11 hid in three measures  (G + O + D )

Jhn 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Nothing ( o) in Jesus ( 74 ) = 704 (GOD )

Jhn 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?

3 x 704 = 2112 ( U 12 )


Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

A c d on a hil can knot.  Be hid.  (child)

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 05 2008,09:05

Edit: Had I not found a BARATA golf ball, there would not be a story # 350 on my web site.

< http://5loaves2fishes.net/forum....#p76555 >

Edit: Wes, I want to thank you, Kristine, Lou FCD,
and especially Steve for giving me this thread and
a bit of fresh air.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 07 2008,06:57

I asked my wife Sunday, “Why did you staple the TV guide?”
“I always staple the TV guide.” she remarked.
“Well, did you know you stapled the Staples ad in the middle of it.” I replied.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 08 2008,20:52

I've had a stormy run in at a Christian site at:


< http://5loaves2fishes.net/forum....tart=20 >

Here's their last post:

**********************

Hereoisreal

You refuse a reasonable request by moderators to apologise for an unacceptable joke. Then you
continue wrangling and posting offensive remarks.

You have 24 hours to read this post after which Hereoisrael banned.

Admin

****************
They can't get my name right either.
Any suggestions for my last remarks?

Zero
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on Aug. 08 2008,21:06

zero you have to login to view that forum.  sounds interesting though, you and your inappropriate jokes ;)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 08 2008,21:50

I've archived the whole thread for posterity.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Aug. 08 2008,22:24

Too late.  I was banned 5 hours after my last post and
that thread cannot be seen without logging in.
Edit/add Dammit, I was drafting a good parting shot too.

Zero

****************************

>You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

Reason given for ban: Unacceptable post and refusal to listen to moderators

A ban has been issued on your username.<
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 17 2008,20:40

IMO, transparency reveals truth.  Did you hear about the blind camera maker?  After completing the task, he said, “Now let there be light.”

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Oct. 18 2008,17:29

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2008,22:32)
Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


IMO, 360 degrees represents a circle, completeness.

360 cubed (46,656,000) plus
360 x love six fold (1244160) = 47,900,160
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 03 2008,21:20

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 17 2008,20:40)
IMO, transparency reveals truth.  Did you hear about the blind camera maker?  After completing the task, he said, “Now let there be light.”

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


IMO, one of the best arguments for ID is the eye.
How could chance know the eye was needed if there
was none.  Nor would it, chance, know anything about
the nature and properties of light, to capture and
transport it to the brain. Then, if and when the task is
finished, say, "Oh, I need to make one more eye for depth perception."
When the second is accomplished say," Two is enough. I'll not make three."

Every optic nerve is connected on one end to a brain
and the other to transparency, a rare quality only found
in eyeballs.

One human optic nerve, about the size of a drinking straw, contains about 1.2  million bundled separate connections from the rods and cones in one eye to the brain.

Zero
Posted by: Kristine on Dec. 03 2008,22:07

Quote (hereoisreal @ Aug. 08 2008,22:24)
Too late.  I was banned 5 hours after my last post and
that thread cannot be seen without logging in.
Edit/add Dammit, I was drafting a good parting shot too.

Zero

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>You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

Reason given for ban: Unacceptable post and refusal to listen to moderators

A ban has been issued on your username.<
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


BTW, when are you going to report me to me? :)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2008,06:58

shimmy, shimmy, shimmy
Hey, Kristine, know the best part about being a baby kangaroo?
Having a womb with a view.

Zero
:)
Posted by: Kristine on Dec. 05 2008,10:33

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2008,06:58)
shimmy, shimmy, shimmy
Hey, Kristine, know the best part about being a baby kangaroo?
Having a womb with a view.

Zero
:)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


:D  You brighten my day, man.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2008,19:56

Quote (Kristine @ Dec. 05 2008,10:33)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2008,06:58)
shimmy, shimmy, shimmy
Hey, Kristine, know the best part about being a baby kangaroo?
Having a womb with a view.

Zero
:)
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


:D  You brighten my day, man.
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Help!

Does anyone know if male marsupials have pouches?

Zero
Posted by: bfish on Dec. 05 2008,20:33

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2008,17:56)
Help!

Does anyone know if male marsupials have pouches?

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Boy, that sounds like the set-up to a punchline.

< But just in case it isn't.... >

Q: Do male kangaroos have pouches?
A: No. There is no male marsupial of any species that has a pouch1. The pouch is part of the female reproductive anatomy.
1 This is not strictly true. There are two marsupial species where the male is known to have a pouch (the extinct Tasmanian tiger and the South American water opossum), but these are scrotal pouches designed to hold the scrotum.

Sounds kinda like nature's briefs, and the tigers were probably damned glad to have that pouch when they ran full speed.

The more scholarly things I found indicate that this is an interesting area of difference between the two groups. The scrotalish tissues seem not to be homologous between placentals and marsupials. Could the dangly bits be convergent evolution? Where's that Cornelius Hunter dude? Maybe he has some copied and reversed drawings.

< Turns out that Pharyngula was all over this four years ago. >

OK, now I want to hear the punchline of the joke.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2008,20:46

Thanks bfish

>OK, now I want to hear the punchline of the joke.<

Some farmer from Iowa told it to me but it’s too corny
to repeat.

>Sounds kinda like nature's briefs, and the tigers were probably damned glad to have that pouch when they ran full speed.<

And porcupines too.  Ouch
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2008,21:34

True story:

My wife said as she emptied the wine bottle, “That’s the last
of the Mohegans.”
“Oh well”, I replied, “That’s what they said about our
neighbor when she died. ‘That’s the last of Ma Higgins.’ “

We walked out on our porch to have our happy hour and
she remarked, “That barber is going to have to stop cutting
your hair so short on the sides.  It looks like a Mohawk.”

“Oh well” I replied, “Look’s like the last of the Mohawks.”

Zero
Posted by: Erasmus, FCD on Dec. 05 2008,22:25

that coincidence is curiously unremarkable hero, at least in comparison to your usual tales.  i wonder if this stuff obeys entropy laws too.  do tell.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 05 2008,22:57

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 05 2008,22:25)
that coincidence is curiously unremarkable hero, at least in comparison to your usual tales.  i wonder if this stuff obeys entropy laws too.  do tell.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


No, I don't think so Raz.  I just work hard at being
hard to live with.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 06 2008,12:22

Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Dec. 05 2008,22:25)
that coincidence is curiously unremarkable hero, at least in comparison to your usual tales.  i wonder if this stuff obeys entropy laws too.  do tell.
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


What size are miracles?  Big or small?
After having posted the optic nerve comments, I envisioned
a three inch string with a knot in the middle as an analogy.  
Since the nerves are bundled, the image to the brain would
not change, even if a knot was tied in it.  
I glanced to the table I was sitting at and saw a three inch
string with a knot in the middle lying before me.  I thought,
“I’ll save this as a reminder of what happened.  I’ll put it
in my pocket because my wife might change the table cloth
and throw it away.”  I knew where it came from.  Joan
had made a new hanger for a birdhouse the day before.
An hour later, I returned from scanning the string into my
computer...  The table cloth was changed.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 18 2008,09:01

IMO, worth posting again from page 19:

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV7HYVE-Oeo >

Enjoy

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 18 2008,23:48

< http://hereoisreal.com/Beauty_of_Math.pps >

By chance....

I  (the first letter in the bible) x
N (the last letter in the bible) = 126 (A Z)

I (9) x AM (1 + 13) = 126

126 + 9 = 135 (ACE)

A through Z = 351

God (26) divided by Jesus (74 or GD) = .351351351 to infinity

One (1) divided by 74 = 0.0135135135 (ACE to infinity)

135 + 351 = 486 (360 + 126) or 9 x 54 (love)

47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x ACE) = 47,160,900

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end,
the first and the last.
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Edit/add:

< http://evolutionanddesign.blogsome.com/2006....omments >

(Posted by Sal:August 3, 2006 @ 3:19 pm)

If I might give my ranking of the analogies in science with #1 being the strongest in terms of acceptance as “valid”:
1. Mathematics
2. Physics and Chemistry
3. Engineering
4. Biological Structure
5. Biological Function
6. historical hypotheses
#1 and #2 are so central to science they are adopted as articles of faith. Given analgous experimental conditions, we expect analogous experimental results.

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Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Dec. 20 2008,10:53

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 18 2008,17:29)
   
Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 27 2008,22:32)
Jhn 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ = Love x G x O x D

(1)    God x God x God  ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(2)    70 seven fold x 99 x love................................................... = 47,900,160
(3)    God x 1260 x love ............................................................ = 47,900,160
(4)    10 %  of heaven seven fold x God x God ............................ = 47,900,160
(5)    10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22)
        x 1260............................................................................. = 47,900,160
       
(6)    (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ......................= 47,900,160
(7)    704 x 1260 x 54  ............................................................. = 47,900,160
       704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8)      Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)......................................... = 47,900,160
(9)      One x one week x (3xGod) ............................................. = 47,900,160
(10)    Iron x 2 x God ............................................................... = 47,900,160
(11)   1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12............................................  = 47,900,160
         (10 % of ‘you 12')
(12)    G x O x D x God x (3 x God)........................................... = 47,900,160
(13)    First x last x It x (3 x God).............................................. = 47,900,160
(14)    ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).............................. = 47,900,160
(15)   (J x E x S x U x S  x  AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .= 47,900,160
(16)   47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) ......................... = 47,160,900

edit/add 3/05:
(17)  AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ...............................= 47,900,160
Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


IMO, 360 degrees represents a circle, completeness.

360 cubed (46,656,000) plus
360 x love six fold (1244160) = 47,900,160
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


One round two... ‘IT’

Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good:
and God divided the light from the darkness.


Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give [me]
my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price
thirty [pieces] of silver.

JESUS (gd) +OO (30) = good
Silver (85) x 30 = 2550
2550 - 30 = 2520 (seven 360's or 2 x 1260)
The word ‘GOD’ says, “Seven circles folded” (1260)
And, as you know, 1260 x 704 (GOD) x 54 (LOVE )=47,900,160

Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one
to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard [it],
and a book of remembrance was written before him for
them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts,
in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them,
as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.


Life is about family, home, and perhaps making a book of
remembrance ( scrapbook), when one gets around to it.

********************************
I and my wife are leaving on a seven day cruse today.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 02 2009,06:48

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 03 2008,21:20)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 17 2008,20:40)
IMO, transparency reveals truth.  Did you hear about the blind camera maker?  After completing the task, he said, “Now let there be light.”

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


IMO, one of the best arguments for ID is the eye.
How could chance know the eye was needed if there
was none.  Nor would it, chance, know anything about
the nature and properties of light, to capture and
transport it to the brain. Then, if and when the task is
finished, say, "Oh, I need to make one more eye for depth perception."
When the second is accomplished say," Two is enough. I'll not make three."

Every optic nerve is connected on one end to a brain
and the other to transparency, a rare quality only found
in eyeballs.

One human optic nerve, about the size of a drinking straw, contains about 1.2  million bundled separate connections from the rods and cones in one eye to the brain.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


We’re back.  Had fun but didn’t go overboard.

We cannot ‘see’ light.  Light loses all it’s properties
when it hits the retina.  It is then converted to electrical
pulses which the brain reads through the optic nerve,
even though they are upside down and backwards.
Talk about design.  WOW!

Happy New Year to everyone.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 03 2009,23:03

Light, color, contrast, nor darkness can be described
to a person born blind.
If God gave you his eyes for a moment, you would
see men as 'trees walking'.

Zero
Posted by: KenGee on Jan. 04 2009,02:21

These posts have got to be a joke, they are the ravings of a madman.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 04 2009,06:43

KenGee, did I tell you the joke about the blond nurse that took a red crayon
to work in case she had to draw blood?

Zero
Posted by: Reciprocating Bill on Jan. 04 2009,08:23

Quote (hereoisreal @ Aug. 02 2008,00:15)
Someone on TV was interviewing a famous person; I’m not sure but I think it was Lamb Chop’s Sherry North. During their conversation, a ping was heard from off camera and Sherry said in response, “Another angel just got their wings”.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


That's the late Shari Lewis. Revered by sock puppets the world over.
Posted by: keiths on Jan. 04 2009,09:07

Quote (KenGee @ Jan. 04 2009,00:21)
These posts have got to be a joke, they are the ravings of a madman.
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Yes, but he grows on you.  Here's how SteveStory put it last year:

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 16 2007,17:39)


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What part of my math is 'babble'?
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The typed part.

Hereoisreal is a kooky troll, but he's the gentlest and least annoying troll I've ever seen. I don't mind him being around at all.
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Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 04 2009,16:13

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 04 2009,08:23)
Quote (hereoisreal @ Aug. 02 2008,00:15)
Someone on TV was interviewing a famous person; I’m not sure but I think it was Lamb Chop’s Sherry North. During their conversation, a ping was heard from off camera and Sherry said in response, “Another angel just got their wings”.

Zero
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That's the late Shari Lewis. Revered by sock puppets the world over.
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Hey, thanks for setting me straight on the name Bill.  I was close.  I'll correct it on my site.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 04 2009,22:05

Two years ago, my wife and I were dinner partners with
another couple while on a cruse.  We kept in touch and
decided to book another cruse together, departing last week.
However, the husband E’d me that his wife had pasted
away Nov. 16th and he was canceling.
At dinner the first night aboard last week, I couldn’t help
but remember the fun and laughter we had shared around
a large table, even though we were now seated at a table
for four.
The next morning I requested that we be assigned a larger
seating for the rest of our cruse and was obliged.  
The second evening, just before the captain’s welcome aboard speech,
Joan and I sat down next to a couple from Canada.  As we
conversed, I mentioned to them that we had hoped to be assigned
a larger table.
They remarked, “You are welcome to sit with us.  We are
six at a table for eight.”
“Thank you,” I replied, “but we’ve already been given a new
table... number 190.”
“That’s our table!” they exclaimed.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 05 2009,06:14



It’s all about focus:

Creating life is about the joining together of two opposites, male and female.
This optimist married a doubting Thomas. Naturally all
their kids became  optometrists with perfect vision.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 05 2009,06:39

Rule # 1 for lazy golfers:
Get a cart before hitting the coarse.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 05 2009,13:01

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 04 2009,16:13)
 
Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 04 2009,08:23)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Aug. 02 2008,00:15)
Someone on TV was interviewing a famous person; I’m not sure but I think it was Lamb Chop’s Sherry North. During their conversation, a ping was heard from off camera and Sherry said in response, “Another angel just got their wings”.

Zero
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That's the late Shari Lewis. Revered by sock puppets the world over.
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Hey, thanks for setting me straight on the name Bill.  I was close.  I'll correct it on my site.

Zero
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Story # 204 from my site repeated in full for clarity:

ANOTHER ANGEL

September 3, 1991, I had inadvertently bumped my glass against something several times on the table, causing a ding or ping sound. I had done this enough times that I asked God “Why?”.
Someone on TV was interviewing a famous person.   I’m not sure but I think it was Lamb Chop’s creator, the late Shari Lewis. During their conversation, a ping was heard from off camera and Shari said in response, “Another angel just got their wings”.

And again thanks Bill
Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 06 2009,08:17

I took my wife for glasses yesterday.  We came
home sightseeing.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 07 2009,06:52

Quote (hereoisreal @ Oct. 17 2008,20:40)
IMO, transparency reveals truth.  Did you hear about the blind camera maker?  After completing the task, he said, “Now let there be light.”

Zero
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IMHO, there are degrees of difficulty for a blind creator.
Creating:
1. A watch
2. A black & white camera
3. A color camera
4. A Polaroid camera
5. A digital camera
6. A digital camcorder
7. A human eye
8. An eye connected to an optic nerve
9. An eye connected to an optic nerve connected to a brain
10. An eye connected to an optic nerve connected to a brain
    connected to a spirit with a memory bank.
11. Seed for all of the above.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 10 2009,17:10

And, speaking of senior moments:

"WHERE is my SUNDAY paper?!" The irate customer calling the newspaper office loudly demanded, wanting to know where her Sunday edition was.

"Madam", said the newspaper employee, "today is Saturday. The Sunday paper is not delivered until tomorrow, on SUNDAY".

There was quite a long pause on the other end of the phone, followed by a ray of recognition as she was heard to mutter, "Well, shit...so that's why no one was at church today."
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 15 2009,18:56

Front loading, once confirmed, is labeled with a well known
scientific term called history.

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be
little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall
he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose
goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 16 2009,09:39

ICS is like a ways and means committee.
A vehicle, propulsion, and guidance.      
An example:
An automobile, a tank of gas, and a driver with a goal.
Mat 6:13 For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
What could happen if you run out of power?
You might land in the Hudson River.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 16 2009,21:35

Front loading, once confirmed, is labeled with a well known
scientific term called history.

Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say,
Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. *(8/1/14/4)

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
Father, into thy hands *(4/14/1981) I commend my spirit: and
having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and]
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

‘hands’  follows 1260 days.

1260 x GOD x LOVE = 47,900,160

Zero

* my remarks
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 17 2009,04:53

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 16 2009,09:39)
ICS is like a ways and means committee.
A vehicle, propulsion, and guidance.      
An example:
An automobile, a tank of gas, and a driver with a goal.
Mat 6:13 For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
What could happen if you run out of power?
You might land in the Hudson River.

Zero
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The wind beneath my wings:

Sometimes power comes from the most unlikely source.

1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and
gold for the pattern of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread
out [their wings], and covered the ark of the covenant of the LORD

Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and]
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two
candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

A gentle breeze stirs the trees.
Wind's affect is what one sees.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 17 2009,08:07

Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2008,21:34)
True story:

My wife said as she emptied the wine bottle, “That’s the last
of the Mohegans.”
“Oh well”, I replied, “That’s what they said about our
neighbor when she died. ‘That’s the last of Ma Higgins.’ “

We walked out on our porch to have our happy hour and
she remarked, “That barber is going to have to stop cutting
your hair so short on the sides.  It looks like a Mohawk.”

“Oh well” I replied, “Look’s like the last of the Mohawks.”

Zero
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In this morning's Florida Today newspaper:

“I’m doing great today,” said Diane Higgins of Goshen, N.Y.,
who had been traveling with her 85-year-old handicapped
mother.  The airliner was still climbing away from Laguardia when
she heard a boom and smelled smoke.

We can now joke about it, since no one died, but except
for a miracle, it could have been the last of Ma and Diane Higgins.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 18 2009,06:43



Math 101 review:

shortest line possible = two adjacent points
smallest area possible = three adjacent points
smallest volume possible = four adjacent points (bh/2)
triangles (trinities) hold everything together
life is about family

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 18 2009,08:12


               88 x 8 (704)

“ I HAVE CHOSEN YOU TWELVE”

The word ‘GOD’ says “Seven 360's folded” (1260)
12 x Jesus (74,or GD) = 888
88 x 8 = 704 (GOD, Jesus + nothing)
3 x GOD = 2112 (U 12)
1260 x 704 x love (54) = 47,900,160
(G x O x D) x 2112 x love = 47,900,160
GOD + L (12) = GOLD ( of what the center of heaven is made )

Exd 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat [of] pure gold:
two cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit
and a half the breadth thereof.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 20 2009,00:21

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 17 2009,08:07)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Dec. 05 2008,21:34)
True story:

My wife said as she emptied the wine bottle, “That’s the last
of the Mohegans.”
“Oh well”, I replied, “That’s what they said about our
neighbor when she died. ‘That’s the last of Ma Higgins.’ “

We walked out on our porch to have our happy hour and
she remarked, “That barber is going to have to stop cutting
your hair so short on the sides.  It looks like a Mohawk.”

“Oh well” I replied, “Look’s like the last of the Mohawks.”

Zero
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In this morning's Florida Today newspaper:

“I’m doing great today,” said Diane Higgins of Goshen, N.Y.,
who had been traveling with her 85-year-old handicapped
mother.  The airliner was still climbing away from Laguardia when
she heard a boom and smelled smoke.

We can now joke about it, since no one died, but except
for a miracle, it could have been the last of Ma and Diane Higgins.

Zero
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Today's paper.....Cute

Kitty Higgins is with the NTSB



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 21 2009,15:08

Hey, we now have a hailing mall in DC.  Don’t laugh.  Big
things come in mall packages.

For the lack of interest in my numbers, I’m now resorting to
drawing a picture of the first wheel:


                 here O is real

Zero
Posted by: Wesley R. Elsberry on Jan. 21 2009,16:38



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Light-sensitive neurons and channels mediate phototaxis in C. elegans.
Ward A, Liu J, Feng Z, Xu XZ.

Life Sciences Institute, University of Michigan, 210 Washtenaw Avenue, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109, USA.

Phototaxis behavior is commonly observed in animals with light-sensing organs. C. elegans, however, is generally believed to lack phototaxis, as this animal lives in darkness (soil) and does not possess eyes. Here, we found that light stimuli elicited negative phototaxis in C. elegans and that this behavior is important for survival. We identified a group of ciliary sensory neurons as candidate photoreceptor cells for mediating phototaxis. Furthermore, we found that light excited photoreceptor cells by evoking a depolarizing conductance carried by cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP)-sensitive cyclic nucleotide-gated (CNG) channels, revealing a conservation in phototransduction between worms and vertebrates. These results identify a new sensory modality in C. elegans and suggest that animals living in dark environments without light-sensing organs may not be presumed to be light insensitive. We propose that urbilaterians, the last common ancestor of bilaterians, might have already evolved a visual system that employs CNG channels and the second messenger cGMP for phototransduction.

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Light sensitivity without eyes... how about that.
Posted by: Lou FCD on Jan. 21 2009,17:03

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 17 2009,09:07)
In this morning's Florida Today newspaper:

“I’m doing great today,” said Diane Higgins of Goshen, N.Y.,
who had been traveling with her 85-year-old handicapped
mother.  The airliner was still climbing away from Laguardia when
she heard a boom and smelled smoke.

We can now joke about it, since no one died, but except
for a miracle, it could have been the last of Ma and Diane Higgins.

Zero
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It was a damn good, well trained pilot that brought that plane down in one piece, Zero.

No miracle necessary.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 21 2009,17:41

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 21 2009,16:38)
 

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Light-sensitive neurons and channels mediate phototaxis in C. elegans.
Ward A, Liu J, Feng Z, Xu XZ.

Life Sciences Institute, University of Michigan, 210 Washtenaw Avenue, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109, USA.

Phototaxis behavior is commonly observed in animals with light-sensing organs. C. elegans, however, is generally believed to lack phototaxis, as this animal lives in darkness (soil) and does not possess eyes. Here, we found that light stimuli elicited negative phototaxis in C. elegans and that this behavior is important for survival. We identified a group of ciliary sensory neurons as candidate photoreceptor cells for mediating phototaxis. Furthermore, we found that light excited photoreceptor cells by evoking a depolarizing conductance carried by cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP)-sensitive cyclic nucleotide-gated (CNG) channels, revealing a conservation in phototransduction between worms and vertebrates. These results identify a new sensory modality in C. elegans and suggest that animals living in dark environments without light-sensing organs may not be presumed to be light insensitive. We propose that urbilaterians, the last common ancestor of bilaterians, might have already evolved a visual system that employs CNG channels and the second messenger cGMP for phototransduction.

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Light sensitivity without eyes... how about that.
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Wes, I have no problem with that.  Even a no-see-em has an
optic nerve between the eye and brain.  I read somewhere that
some butterflies have tastebuds in their feet.
Even earthworms and blind people know when they are in
the sunlight.
Psa 22:6 But I [am] a worm, and no man; a reproach of men,
and despised of the people.

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Lou, I agree.  IMO, always give credit where credit is due.
Higgins was the only point I was making however.
And thanks to both of you for talking to me.

Zero
Posted by: Wesley R. Elsberry on Jan. 22 2009,08:12

I had thought that your < comment above > was an "evolution couldn't do this" sort of thing. If that wasn't the notion, whatever was the point certainly was not clear.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 22 2009,12:54

Leaven hid in three measures:

            ch/ur/ch
           11/39/11

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 22 2009,17:42

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 22 2009,08:12)
I had thought that your < comment above > was an "evolution couldn't do this" sort of thing. If that wasn't the notion, whatever was the point certainly was not clear.
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Wes, the Life Sciences report on phototaxis behavior is what I was
commenting on and agreeing to when I answered your post.

Yes, my remarks to which you specifically refer with ‘comment above’
did indeed imply that, IMO, chance couldn’t save a snowball in hell, much
less create a seed for growing a live one.

Have a good night.

Zero
Posted by: Assassinator on Jan. 22 2009,18:08

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,17:42)
 
Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Jan. 22 2009,08:12)
I had thought that your < comment above > was an "evolution couldn't do this" sort of thing. If that wasn't the notion, whatever was the point certainly was not clear.
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Wes, the Life Sciences report on phototaxis behavior is what I was
commenting on and agreeing to when I answered your post.

Yes, my remarks to which you specifically refer with ‘comment above’
did indeed imply that, IMO, chance couldn’t save a snowball in hell, much
less create a seed for growing a live one.

Have a good night.

Zero
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That's exactly why you must not forget, that biochemistry is not dice-rolling ;) The modern evolutionairy theory is múch more then just chance.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 22 2009,18:44

Assassinator, at my age, there’s not a lot I don’t forget.

Want to see rocks turned into living creatures?

Let the heavens refuse to give the creator credit for his handywork. Psa 19:1

Luk 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that,
if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 22 2009,22:04

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,12:54)
Leaven hid in three measures:

            ch/ur/ch
           11/39/11

Zero
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Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 22 2009,22:48

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,22:04)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,12:54)
Leaven hid in three measures:

            ch/ur/ch
           11/39/11

Zero
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Zero
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        My Rock of all ages

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates
of hell shall not prevail against it.


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,08:39

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 16 2009,21:35)
Front loading, once confirmed, is labeled with a well known
scientific term called history.

Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say,
Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. *(8/1/14/4)

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
Father, into thy hands *(4/14/1981) I commend my spirit: and
having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and]
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

‘hands’  follows 1260 days.

1260 x GOD x LOVE = 47,900,160

Zero

* my remarks
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More 'front loading':

1Ki 6:7 And the house, when it was in building, was built of stone made ready
before it was brought thither: so that there was neither hammer nor axe [nor]
any tool of iron heard in the house, while it was in building.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,09:00



What goes around comes around.
Time is measured with circles, 360 degrees, in minutes, hours, days, years.
To count the revolutions, one must have a timing mark.

God said he would meet with Israel once a year forever:

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,09:47

Cute:
< http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/netherland-ark >

The Ark

No rudder, no sail
No front, no tail
No left, no right
No lights in sight
No charts, no maps
Some prayers perhaps
No dinghy in tow
No motor to go
One window, one door
3 floors, no more
But it served its purpose.

                          by Zero
Posted by: noncarborundum on Jan. 23 2009,10:22

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 23 2009,09:47)
Cute:
< http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/netherland-ark >

The Ark

No rudder, no sail
No front, no tail
No left, no right
No lights in sight
No charts, no maps
Some prayers perhaps
No dinghy in tow
No motor to go
One window, one door
3 floors, no more
But it served its purpose.

                          by Zero
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That last line's kind of clunky.  How about:



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The Ark

No rudder, no sail
No front, no tail
No left, no right
No lights in sight
No charts, no maps
Some prayers perhaps
No dinghy in tow
No motor to go
One window, one door
3 floors, no more
And it's just a stor-
y.
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:D
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,17:35

Enjoy:

< http://videos.sapo.pt/iW8VERIybRZd3AAjDW4c >

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,22:23

Story # 354 on my site:

WHEN HELL MET LAW
I said to my housekeeper Sep. 7,1999, “Heaven is hell without law and order. When hell meets the law, the shit will hit the fan."
The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read,
"Helmet law crackdown begins".
I saved the paper.



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 23 2009,23:56

Size has no end, big or small.



Mar 11:4 And they went their way, and found the colt tied by the
door without in a place where two ways met; and they loose him.

Zero
Posted by: Lou FCD on Jan. 24 2009,07:06

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 23 2009,23:23)
Story # 354 on my site:

WHEN HELL MET LAW
I said to my housekeeper Sep. 7,1999, “Heaven is hell without law and order. When hell meets the law, the shit will hit the fan."
The next morning I opened my newspaper to the front page. The top headline read,
"Helmet law crackdown begins".
I saved the paper.



Zero
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How does the crack fit in? Were you smoking it, or wearing your pants like a teenager?

:p
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 24 2009,12:10

I just received an E from Dr. Dembski saying, “Please remove me
from your mailing list.” which I did and E’d him confirmation.
Actually, I don’t have a mailing list.  I only try to contact those
people to whom I wish to talk.  At least I now know he knows how
he can reach me without posting on this site.  My door is open.
There was a big jump on the hits on my website today so that made my day.

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Lou, as to why the paper chose the word ‘crackdown’, you’ll have to
ask them.  When I originally wrote the story, I had misquoted them by
using the word ‘enforcement’.  After running across the actual paper
yesterday, I asked my web tec to change it.  Can I or will you double
post the E remarks to our UD thread?

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 24 2009,12:40

Here, ho is real, a holotta ho’s, some corny I knows.


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Story # 355 from my website:
  < http://www.hereoisreal.com/index2.htm >

HO HO HO
Posted Apr 15th 2007 7:28AM
Hawaiian singer Don Ho, who’’s most famous song, was "Tiny Bubbles," died yesterday morning in Honolulu of a heart attack.
With Don Imus' remarks about hoes flooding the news for a week, you might imagine my suspecting the finger of fate in the above news as I and my wife flew off to Hawaii the morning of the 15th.
I had already thought up several hoe jokes, like Imus imitating Santa's, "HO HO HO" etc., when my wife cautioned me not to mention Don Ho in any of those while on our trip. She thought it would not be in good taste and I agreed.
I was on our balcony aboard ship in Pearl Harbor naming "hoes": hosanna, Hose, holy, holey, wholly, etc. when a tugboat passed alongside and docked. The name on her bow....Namahoe.
The evening of the day we returned home, someone won a trip to Hawaii on the Wheel Of Fortune. We then watched a rerun of "Pearl Harbor".



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Louis from the BW:

< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....t=10830 >

It's Westward Ho btw.

(Oh and that's only because the Eastward Ho moved house)

There are many Piddles (and Puddles) incidentally in Dorset. Some of you should be familiar with the reasons this might be relevant to the USA.... ;-)




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Story # 341 from my website:   < http://www.hereoisreal.com/index2.htm >

THE GOLF BALL BY TOM HEMINGWAY
It's Monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more talking than playing. We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only". Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind. I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister. The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony. Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho." Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters." With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue. On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found. When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ". Neither Denis nor I had been near that club in over 40 years. ps: Saturday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page. I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife called me to dinner. While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer on Golf Central said that three golfers who had never had hole-in-ones accomplished the feat together, Two on one hole and the other on the next par 3.
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Winter not a winner:

Did you see where England dodged a big freeze?
But a ho-lota small late crops were  a  bit frost bitten as it
crawled crossed Great Britain.
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Story # 60 from my website:   < http://www.hereoisreal.com/index2.htm >
JOSE
I was with a group of friends in our home partying and telling jokes.
I thought to myself, “ I want to compare Jose with hose B in some kind of a joke. How can I turn Jose into hose B?" At that moment "Jose Quervo, You are a Friend of Mine" commenced on the radio.
Several years later, my wife and I were at a party when the entertainer told a joke.
She said, “This Spanish plumber had twin boys.  He named one Hose and
the other Hose B.”  

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A rib from Santa:

Mrs. Claus, " There are horse shoes, house shoes,
and hoe shoes. Are mermaid shoes for real?"
Santa replied, " I don't know. You'll have to
ask Mer."
Mrs. Claus, "Ha Ha ha"
Santa,"No No No, it's Ho Ho Ho."

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An unnumbered story below # 360

THE LAW

Jesus said, “I did not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (keep it).”  When Jesus said “but” I believe he meant the opposite of “destroy”, which is to establish, create, or retain.
In hundreds of places in the Old Testament, you will find where God said: “The law is perfect.”; “My laws, all of them, are perfect.”; “My laws are so well thought out that they do not have to be changed or amended forever.”; “My laws are written in stone, front an back, so keep them forever.”
One man comes along and remarks one time that “God’’s laws are not perfect, the law is weak. We don’’t have to obey the law anymore, and the law is a curse.” He says, “I think I have the mind of God. On one question you asked me about, I haven’’t heard from God but I’’ll give you my opinion anyway. There is only one winner in a race, so follow me, little children.” So a lot of people follow him. (The sick man who was let down through a hole in the roof into the presence of God, had ‘Palsy’. When he was healed, he was told to go to his own house.)
This, to me, is like Jesus driving down the street and stopping for a red light. Someone sees him stop and concludes, “That was a good law, requiring people to stop at red lights, but since Jesus obeyed the law and fulfilled the law, we don’t have to stop anymore or obey anymore.”
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Story # 284
"SUPER DUPER POOPER SCOOPER
One of God’’s laws which he said was to be kept forever, and ever, and ever, requires every soldier in God’’s army, to carry a foxhole-type shovel, permanently attached to the other end of their spears. This is not for digging foxholes. It is to be used each and every time you do your ““business”” in the camp. The point emphasized is, that should someone fail to cover it up, the Angel of the Lord just might step in it when he is walking about the area at night. The consequence of this, should it happen, is not described, but I for one, would not want to put it to the test.
5/17/08 I was thinking about the above story when I glanced
down to the Florida Today newspaper which gave me an answer:
Picture
Picture
Ps:
Thursday, November 18, 2004, I opened my paper to find an article written by Billy Cox in the Florida Today newspaper. He did a feature about me several years ago.
A woman, named Julie Arnold, had a pet clean up service called, "SUPERDUPER POOPER SCUPPER".
I had the article on my scanner a few days later as I was working with a family member at my computer.
I glanced at my scanner and thought,
"I'll tell her about this item in the paper."
Then I changed my mind and kept on working at my desk as she left the room.
A few minutes later, Joan, my wife, stuck her head in the door and exclaimed,
"Paula just stepped in some dog poop."
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I was talking to my lady neighbor while leaning on my hoe in my
front yard when another friend drove by and stopped.  
“Hey, a man with his hoe!” he remarked.
Immediately, the neighbor replied, “I resent that remark.”
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Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro
in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Satan was walking with an angel to and fro when he asked,
"Who's that over there in his garden with a hoe?”
The angel replied, " Oh, that's just Don Imus coverin' up his business."
Satan exclaimed, "Hoe shit! He's at it again? Some people never learn."



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 25 2009,18:00



Life is about family and home.  If you’re too busy to take
your kids fishin, you're too busy.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 25 2009,19:41

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,22:04)
 
Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 22 2009,12:54)
Leaven hid in three measures:

            ch/ur/ch
           11/39/11

Zero
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Zero
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"God between God" =  Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last, AZ, or 126.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

edit/add:

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims.

Between two ch.....   ch(ur)ch      11/39/11
Between two ch.....   che/ru/bim  16/39/16

God between God = God/Jesus/God = 26/74/26 =126=AZ

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 26 2009,01:11

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 18 2009,06:43)


Math 101 review:

shortest line possible = two adjacent points
smallest area possible = three adjacent points
smallest volume possible = four adjacent points (bh/2)
triangles (trinities) hold everything together
life is about family

Zero
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The Miracle City of Tightusville

"I have chosen you twelve."

The word Tightusville = Titusville + gh, (78), which is 3 x God (26).
3 x God (704) = 2112 (U 12)
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78

Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

A CD on a hil can knot.  Be hid.  (C hil D)

edit/add: There were 4 hole-in-ones at La Cita yesterday.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 26 2009,22:50

Does God have a pattern?

Front loading, once confirmed, is labeled with a well known
scientific term called history.

Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be
little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall
he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose
goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say,
Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. *(8/1/14/4)

Luk 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said,
Father, into thy hands *(8114419 decoded  4/14/1981) I
commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Rev 11:3 And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and]
threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

‘‘hands’’ follows 1260 days.
Where does the kingdom of heaven occur?  At the dot after the word ‘hither’.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

science’s view of front loading:

"If the prediction was stated, the event never happened.
If an event happened, it wasn’t planed.
Science says:
The meeting of God with Moses never took place.
If it did, and God showed him a pattern or plan, the thing, object,
building, or person shown, was never made.
If it was made, it has no meaning.
None of the predictions for the future, mentioned in the
bible and especially Revelations, have ever been fulfilled.  
If they have, they were by chance and have no meaning."


1260 x GOD x LOVE = 47,900,160

Zero

* my remarks
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 27 2009,00:54

HOLE-IN-ONES:

Saturday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page. I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife called me to dinner. While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer  said that three golfers, who had never had hole-in-ones, accomplished the feat together, two on one hole and the other on the next par 3.

**********************************

THE GOLF BALL BY TOM HEMINGWAY (story # 341 on my website)

It's Monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more talking than playing. We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only". Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind. I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister. The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony. Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho." Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters." With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue. On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found. When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ". Neither Denis nor I had been near that club in over 40 years.



THIS STORY HAS A RING TO IT   (Story # 342)

This story has a ring to it: In January, 2004, I was on my patio when I noticed my neighbor out in his backyard with a metal detector. He must have spent 3-4 hours scanning his grass. I asked him the next day, as I leaned over our fence, what had he lost. He said that he was losing weight and had lost his gold wedding ring but didn't have any idea where or when. I then glanced to my left about 8-10 feet and spotted his ring in the grass. Night before last, Joan's sister and husband were over and I told them the above story. The next day after we had done some shopping, we were having lunch at home when Shirley, my sis-in-law discovered one of her gold ear rings was missing. We searched the house for about an hour, and then backtracked. While Bob and I went to one store, my wife and Shirley went to another. They pulled into the yard about 5 minutes after Bob and I with the ear ring. Joan said that the one parking spot I had used that morning was empty so she parked there. They searched through the whole store and around the parking space before finally getting back in the car. Then Joan told Shirley to get out one more time and look around the parking spot, which she did and got back in. As Joan was backing out, she spotted the ear ring in the sand. In February of 06, I was playing golf and riding with Dick Ledger in his cart when he mentioned that he was having trouble keeping his wedding ring on because he was losing weight. The remark brought back memories of the above story from the year before so I told it to him. When I arrived home that afternoon, my wife told me that she had spoken to Janet White on the phone and learned that Bill, her husband, had lost his ring finger while trying to lift something heavy from his son’’s truck. A few days later, Bob and Shirley came to visit again and I told them all of the above. Just before they were about to leave, Bob discovered he had lost his wedding band (He had been losing weight.)After they left, my wife continued to look for the ring and asked me to help. I didn’’t and said to her, " He’’ll probably find it in his trunk" Our maid, Suzan came that day so my wife asked her to keep an eye out for it also. I told her the complete story up till then. And then, I told her a ring joke. I said, "Do you know why my finger smells like lemon pie? It’’s got my rang on it" That night Shirley called. She said Bob had found his ring in the car trunk. The next time Suzan came, I told her that Bob had found his ring. She said, "After you told me the ring joke, I went home and found my mother in the kitchen. I asked her what she was baking and she replied, "Limon meringue pie".

My wife, who had lost a pinky ring, found it in her golf glove the same day Dick Ledger's wife, Joice, lost an earring.

Did you ever find something that was lost, before you missed it? I pulled my hand from under my pillow to find my wife’’s ring hooked to my ring She had come to wake me a few minutes before.

Isa 65:24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear..
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HAVE A GREAT GAME    (Story # 316 )

Two years ago I was playing in our club men’s group competing in teams of four. We couldn’’t divide up evenly so my team only had three players. I would receive a blind draw at the end of play to determine my teams’’ overall score. One player, Bob Boniface, who was on another team, was having an exceptional round and was leading the match until his card was picked as my blind draw. My team picked up eight or ten strokes for him, placing us first and his team second.
The following week when I saw Bob just before we played again, I told him it didn’t seem fair for him to play so well, and then get beat because someone picked his card for a blind draw.
Feeling a little guilty, I said something that I don’’t ever remember saying before as we left for a shot gun start. I hollered, “Hey Bob, have a great game!”
I started on No. 4 and as I chipped up to the green, I heard a loud roar go up at the No. 7 tee close by. With the first swing of his club that day, Bob hit a hole in one.

HAPPY GILMORE (story # 349)

About four and a half years ago, I think it was the day my wife Joan had her hole - in - one at La Cita, she and I were discussing spectacular golf shots. I said, “You may not have heard about this, but Andrew Magee had a hole - in - one while playing a par 4 on the PGA tour this year (2001) at the Phoenix open. A player on the green was practicing his putting stroke when Andrew's drive ricocheted off the back of his putter into the hole.” Then I continued, " I remember, years ago, reading about something even stranger...a golfer on a par 3 overshot the green. His ball glanced off of a Volkswagen going by on the road, fell back onto the green and rolled in the cup." At the time I had read it, I imagined a specific colored car, yellow. That night I asked Joan what she would like to do. She replied, " Let's watch one of the DVDS we got when we bought our player the other day". We had never used it. Since I had golf on my mind, I inserted a movie titled “Happy Gilmore”. It is about an x-hockey player who gets on the PGA tour basically because he had hit a hole - in - one on a par 4 hole. He also used a hockey stick sometimes as an iron or a putter. He makes his last shot of a tournament to win by glancing his ball, first, off of a yellow Volkswagen, then through a Rube Goldberg maze, (a fallen tower), into the hole. At the time we owned a cocktail lounge. Sometime later, I installed another TV down the bar which included a DVD player, away from the one I always had on mostly for live sports.
One Sunday afternoon I was tending bar alone. I had only one customer, a young man in his twenties. We both were watching PGA golf and I had "Happy Gilmore" playing on the DVD. The young man made a comment, “I could hit that ball if they let me use a baseball bat.” I replied, “Why not use a hockey stick like Happy?” I glanced over to the other TV to see Happy putting with his hockey stick. The announcer on live TV said at that moment, and I don’’t know what prompted his remark, “If you hit a golf ball with a hockey stick, you have to hit it straight on.” I told someone at the bar the above story a few days later, then left the bar, got in my truck and drove south toward Mims, thinking about what I had just discussed. As I pulled up to the red light at 46, a yellow VW turned left in front of me. Two weeks later, Joan and I drove to Ft. Myers to try to locate her brother she hadn't heard from in 46 years. After finding him and talking for a while, he remarked, “Let me show you my old cars.” We walked around to the back and when he raised the garage door, a yellow Volkswagen appeared. Now, when I see a yellow VW, it's special to me. Last week, just after seeing one pass, I crossed the street and walked into a thrift store. Just inside, was a toy model VW on a pedestal.
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HAVE A GREAT GAME   (Story # 316)
Two years ago I was playing in our club men’s group competing in teams of four. We couldn’t divide up evenly so my team only had three players. I would receive a blind draw at the end of play to determine my teams’’ overall score. One player, Bob Boniface, who was on another team, was having an exceptional round and was leading the match until his card was picked as my blind draw. My team picked up eight or ten strokes from him, placing us first and his team second.
The following week when I saw Bob just before we played again, I told him it didn’’t seem fair for him to play so well, and then get beat because someone picked his card for a blind draw.
Feeling a little guilty, I said something that I don’t ever remember saying before as we left for a shot gun start. I hollered, “Hey Bob, have a great game!”
I started on No. 4 and as I chipped up to the green, I heard a loud roar go up at the No. 7 tee close by. With the first swing of his club that day, Bob hit a hole in one.

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360 miracles and more at:
< http://www.hereoisreal.com >
< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;st=660 >

Last Saturday, there were four hole-in-ones at my home course in Titusville, Fl.
One was like Magee's, on a par 4, hole # 15.
I just know, my friend Wayne Sparks, who pasted away
last year, is smiling down.  He drove that green in a
club scramble and all four of us missed a twenty
foot eagle putt.

Zero

edit/These stories may be reprinted in full.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 27 2009,08:13

Early this morning , my wife and I began to make the bed when
she remarked, “I have one foot over here.”
Being a smart ass, I replied, “I have one over here.  It’s nice to have
two feet.”
She answered, “Hey, don’t joke about that!”
I asked, “Why?”
She said, “You’ll know when you read this morning’s headline.”


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 30 2009,19:32

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 26 2009,01:11)
   
Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 18 2009,06:43)


Math 101 review:

shortest line possible = two adjacent points
smallest area possible = three adjacent points
smallest volume possible = four adjacent points (bh/2)
triangles (trinities) hold everything together
life is about family

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


The Miracle City of Tightusville

"I have chosen you twelve."

The word Tightusville = Titusville + gh, (78), which is 3 x God (26).
3 x God (704) = 2112 (U 12)
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=78

Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.

A CD on a hil can knot.  Be hid.  (C hil D)

edit/add: There were 4 hole-in-ones at La Cita yesterday.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------



                         Usville

Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.


Before I left home to play golf, I decided to take a camera along because
I wanted to take a picture of this water tower that’s along the way.
As our threesome stepped on the first tee, I realized I had left the camera home.
One of them turned to me and said, “I brought a camera today, so that I
can take a picture of you and.....”.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 31 2009,00:12

Atypical names and pictures of the trinity of God:

God is a trinity. One trinity (God + 2)
God is a family. One family (God + 2)
A  father, mother, and child. (God + 2)

God and 2 candlesticks.
God and 2 olive branches
God and 2 witnesses
God and 2 thieves
       
God and his pregnant wife (Rev. 12:2)
King and 2 asses (Zec 9:9)








Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.



God and 2 cherubims (The chariot of Israel and the horsemen thereof)

1Ch 28:18 And for the altar of incense refined gold by weight; and gold for the pattern
of the chariot of the cherubims, that spread out [their wings], and covered the ark
of the covenant of the LORD

Exd 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune
with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims
which [are] upon the ark of the testimony, of all [things] which I will
give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

2Ki 2:12 And Elisha saw [it], and he cried, My father, my father,
the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more:
and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 31 2009,08:16

SUPER BOWL (story 113 on my website)

One morning about five or six years ago, on a Superbowl Sunday, I had to go to the bathroom. I had this terrible, terrible diarrhea - one of the worst that I had ever had - and I was thinking to myself, "Wow, this is a Super Bowl Sunday - I'll remember this one!" I had in mind a huge toilet bowl. I walked out of the bathroom and out into the yard to pick up the Sunday paper. When I opened it up there was just one big picture on the front of the paper - a huge toilet bowl.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Jan. 31 2009,22:38

Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Man has 3 faces like God and Eve, love, hate, and indifference.  See story # 149 'The Three Faces of Eve' at < http://hereoisreal.com >
God said, "Either love me or hate me.  Just don't sit on the fence and be indifferent."

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 01 2009,06:39

Think fruit

Jhn 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Jhn 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch]
that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
When is there harmony and cooperation in a vineyard?
When grape vines think alike.


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Gone with the Wind

Yesterday, 1/31/09, I thought to my self, “The Book of Life is sorta like
Margaret Mitchell’s  Gone With the Wind.  It has a beginning,
a middle, and an end, the slamming of a door."
I then walked down the hall to our den where my wife had the
Bright House music channel *#434 on.  The theme from   Gone With the Wind
was playing.

Zero

*See stories #241 & 242 (Adore & 434)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 01 2009,07:59



                       Bright House

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon,
to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.
Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light
of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

The following is a copy of a letter I am sending to Bright House Network:

Dear Sirs,
If you go to  
< http://www.hereoisreal.com >
you will find that Bright House has had a part in the continuing miracles
in my life.  Since some people don’t believe in miracles, let’s just call
them ‘coincidences’ for now.
Since you are my cable provider, most of the TV and music stories
did involve your service, like the one posted on my thread today at:
< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....&st=660 >
Also, even though Titusville, by chance, is called ‘The Miracle City’,
the Florida Today has not considered my stories involving
their paper ‘news’.  I haven’t counted but I’m guessing about 100
of them are on my site.
Please pass this on to all your employees and I thank you all for
a job well done.

Archie Bryant (Zero)
Titusville
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 03 2009,01:27


                        Bright House

This is the pattern for every living thing.  It is balanced, symmetrical,
and level, like Eve, the mother of all living. Even her name is balanced,
symmetrical, and level.
It is also portable.  Would someone like to call a T.O.E. truck?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 04 2009,05:36


                 God and two neighbors

First rule in heaven:
Love God with all your heart
and your neighbor as yourself.


How do you arm a Gideon, a doubter, for the battle of Armageddon?
Tell him a knock knock joke.

*******************888*********************
This is a reprint of a previous post with some alterations.  


"Knock Knock"
"Who's there?" asked St. Peter from behind the door.
"Hey, Pete, it's me, St Paul, let me in! I've got a great army with me and we want to help. I wrote half the bible and I think I have the mind of God. I even brought my Paul bearers along with some pretty big names in the church.
St Peter replied, "Well, actually I don't have a key for this door. It's sorta private for God's family.
I just happened to hear you knocking as I was on the way to see my mother-in-law. It worrys her sick that I have to be responsible for locking and unlocking the north and south gates morning and night.
You know, you caught us at a bad time. You really should have called first. Today's the Lord's
day and he's taken his grandson and some of his friends down to the creek fishin' again. It's a catch
and release thing. I've gone along sometimes just to see the delight in the grandson's eyes when
he sees the piece of money in a fish's mouth. I still don't know how the Lord does it but that's OK.
The kid thinks grandpa walks on water"
St Paul, " Pete, lookin' up, I see a line of little people standing on top of the wall, all the way around the city.
What, may I ask, are they doing?"
St Peter, " Oh them? They're not 'doing' anything. Don't even pay them any mind. They're just peons. They are some of the least here and have come to watch the fireworks."
"Fireworks! What fireworks?"
St Peter, " Here in heaven we just have two rules: Kinda simple, love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself.”
"Sound's great. I can live with that."
St Peter, "Actually, that's just the first rule.
The second is.... Never piss on someone on fire.”

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 04 2009,10:31

Quote (hereoisreal @ Jan. 27 2009,00:54)
HOLE-IN-ONES:

Saturday, 13 March, 2004, Tom gave me a copy of this story because I knew about it and wanted to include it on my web page. I was almost finished copying it into my computer when my wife called me to dinner. While eating, I had the Golf Channel on. The announcer  said that three golfers, who had never had hole-in-ones, accomplished the feat together, Two on one hole and the other on the next par 3.

**********************************

THE GOLF BALL BY TOM HEMINGWAY (story # 341 on my website)

It's Monday, September 10, 2001, and I'm playing golf with a foursome at La Cita Country Club in Titusville, Florida. I'm riding with my good friend Denis Haggerty, a retired pro football player, and probably doing more talking than playing. We had torrential rain yesterday, courtesy of hurricane Erwin, which has passed by and headed for Long Island, New York. Our course drains well so we were able to play "cart paths only". Along about the 6th hole, my first experience with a hurricane came to mind. I said to Denis, "Being a Pennsylvania boy, I didn't have any idea what a hurricane was all about until we were invited to Long Island in the early 50's for the wedding of my friend Jack Dwyer's sister. The power was out and the rain was teeming down. We wrapped the bride in sheets, carried her into the candle lit church for the ceremony. Afterward we went to a reception at a country club, I think, is named Westward Ho." Denis, a Long Islander, replied, "It must have been Southward Ho in Brightwaters." With my memory being what it is at this stage in my life, I didn't argue. On my drive at the 8th hole, I pulled my ball into the woods. While looking for my errant shot, I found an old, algae encrusted ball and picked it up out of the moss. At the next tee I washed my ball and the one I had found. When Denis completed his tee shot, I said, "Look at the logo on this old ball I found. It says, ' SOUTHWARD HO COUNTRY CLUB' ". Neither Denis nor I had been near that club in over 40 years.



THIS STORY HAS A RING TO IT   (Story # 342)
(pulled from this story only because there were
no hole-in-ones mentioned in it)

HAVE A GREAT GAME    (Story # 316 )

Two years ago I was playing in our club men’s group competing in teams of four. We couldn’’t divide up evenly so my team only had three players. I would receive a blind draw at the end of play to determine my teams’’ overall score. One player, Bob Boniface, who was on another team, was having an exceptional round and was leading the match until his card was picked as my blind draw. My team picked up eight or ten strokes for him, placing us first and his team second.
The following week when I saw Bob just before we played again, I told him it didn’t seem fair for him to play so well, and then get beat because someone picked his card for a blind draw.
Feeling a little guilty, I said something that I don’’t ever remember saying before as we left for a shot gun start. I hollered, “Hey Bob, have a great game!”
I started on No. 4 and as I chipped up to the green, I heard a loud roar go up at the No. 7 tee close by. With the first swing of his club that day, Bob hit a hole in one.

HAPPY GILMORE (story # 349)

About four and a half years ago, I think it was the day my wife Joan had her hole - in - one at La Cita, she and I were discussing spectacular golf shots. I said, “You may not have heard about this, but Andrew Magee had a hole - in - one while playing a par 4 on the PGA tour this year (2001) at the Phoenix open. A player on the green was practicing his putting stroke when Andrew's drive ricocheted off the back of his putter into the hole.” Then I continued, " I remember, years ago, reading about something even stranger...a golfer on a par 3 overshot the green. His ball glanced off of a Volkswagen going by on the road, fell back onto the green and rolled in the cup." At the time I had read it, I imagined a specific colored car, yellow. That night I asked Joan what she would like to do. She replied, " Let's watch one of the DVDS we got when we bought our player the other day". We had never used it. Since I had golf on my mind, I inserted a movie titled “Happy Gilmore”. It is about an x-hockey player who gets on the PGA tour basically because he had hit a hole - in - one on a par 4 hole. He also used a hockey stick sometimes as an iron or a putter. He makes his last shot of a tournament to win by glancing his ball, first, off of a yellow Volkswagen, then through a Rube Goldberg maze, (a fallen tower), into the hole. At the time we owned a cocktail lounge. Sometime later, I installed another TV down the bar which included a DVD player, away from the one I always had on mostly for live sports.
One Sunday afternoon I was tending bar alone. I had only one customer, a young man in his twenties. We both were watching PGA golf and I had "Happy Gilmore" playing on the DVD. The young man made a comment, “I could hit that ball if they let me use a baseball bat.” I replied, “Why not use a hockey stick like Happy?” I glanced over to the other TV to see Happy putting with his hockey stick. The announcer on live TV said at that moment, and I don’’t know what prompted his remark, “If you hit a golf ball with a hockey stick, you have to hit it straight on.” I told someone at the bar the above story a few days later, then left the bar, got in my truck and drove south toward Mims, thinking about what I had just discussed. As I pulled up to the red light at 46, a yellow VW turned left in front of me. Two weeks later, Joan and I drove to Ft. Myers to try to locate her brother she hadn't heard from in 46 years. After finding him and talking for a while, he remarked, “Let me show you my old cars.” We walked around to the back and when he raised the garage door, a yellow Volkswagen appeared. Now, when I see a yellow VW, it's special to me. Last week, just after seeing one pass, I crossed the street and walked into a thrift store. Just inside, was a toy model VW on a pedestal.
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HAVE A GREAT GAME   (Story # 316)
Two years ago I was playing in our club men’s group competing in teams of four. We couldn’t divide up evenly so my team only had three players. I would receive a blind draw at the end of play to determine my teams’’ overall score. One player, Bob Boniface, who was on another team, was having an exceptional round and was leading the match until his card was picked as my blind draw. My team picked up eight or ten strokes from him, placing us first and his team second.
The following week when I saw Bob just before we played again, I told him it didn’’t seem fair for him to play so well, and then get beat because someone picked his card for a blind draw.
Feeling a little guilty, I said something that I don’t ever remember saying before as we left for a shot gun start. I hollered, “Hey Bob, have a great game!”
I started on No. 4 and as I chipped up to the green, I heard a loud roar go up at the No. 7 tee close by. With the first swing of his club that day, Bob hit a hole in one.

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360 miracles and more at:
< http://www.hereoisreal.com >
< http://www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin....;st=660 >

Last Saturday, there were four hole-in-ones at my home course in Titusville, Fl.
One was like Magee's, on a par 4, hole # 15.
I just know, my friend Wayne Sparks, who pasted away
last year, is smiling down.  He drove that green in a
club scramble and all four of us missed a twenty
foot eagle putt.

Zero


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Here is a front page story in today's Florida Today:





Zero

These stories may be reprinted in full.

Copies to:
mdcotis@floridatoday.com
Golf Central
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 04 2009,21:08

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 03 2009,01:27)

                                Bright House

This is the pattern for every living thing.  It is balanced, symmetrical,
and level, like Eve, the mother of all living. Even her name is balanced,
symmetrical, and level.
It is also portable.  Would someone like to call a T.O.E. truck?
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


From the Bathroom wall:
Quote (Henry J @ Feb. 03 2009,22:18)
   Quote  
What I'd have to see to confirm that would be a step by step account of these steps.

You all are on the verge of declaring such an account "unknowable" - so in the end whadya got?

Similar sequences.

That's it.

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You left out a very important part of that: similar sequences that form a nested hierarchy.

It's not the single data point from comparing a couple of sequences that by itself proves anything, it's the overall pattern.

Evolution via accumulation of diverging traits explains why most traits fall into the same nested hierarchy. I.D. doesn't explain that; bioengineering resembling the way humans do things would produce lots of conflicting hierarchies.

I have yet to hear of any specific observed pattern of observations that would be explained as a logical consequence of the premise that life was deliberately engineered; the absence of such a detectable pattern is why scientists don't spend research time on the concept of I.D.

Henry

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From the 23rd page of my thread:
Posts: 692
Joined: Feb. 2006
(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 03 2009,01:27    


                      Overall pattern

This is the pattern for every living thing.  It is balanced, symmetrical,
and level, like Eve, the mother of all living. Even her name is balanced,
symmetrical, and level.
It is also portable.  Would someone like to call a T.O.E. truck?
edit/add: It is also portable:
Eze 10:19 And the cherubims lifted up their wings, and mounted up from the earth in my sight: when they went out, the wheels also [were] beside them, and [every one] stood at the door of the east gate of the LORD'S house; and the glory of the God of Israel [was] over them above.


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edit/plus:

Eve + 1st & last = heaven
Eve + 22 = God
Eve x 22 = God
The leaves on the tree of life are for healing.

Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.


Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 04 2009,21:58


                      nested hierarchy
                    (God between God)

Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air
[have] nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay [his] head.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,06:13

< http://www.monarchbutterflyusa.com/Cycle.htm >

"How long does a monarch live?"

The total time frame for one butterfly's life cycle (one generation) is about 6-8 weeks . . . egg, caterpillar, chrysalis, butterfly. It grows inside the egg for about 4 days. It then munches milkweed and grows as a monarch caterpillar (larvae) for about 2 more weeks. The caterpillar's life inside the chrysalis (pupa) lasts about 10 days and its wonderful life as an adult butterfly lasts from 2 - 6 weeks.

Science knows that it took millions of years for life to begin.  It had to be an egg, right, or was it a chicken?  

Millions of years, maybe billions, maybe even trillions of years later, (is that measured in revolutions of the earth or revolutions around the sun?), it crawled somewhere and became something else and started eating (something else).
Then.......you know the story well.

Life said, or nature said, or God said, "I can do that in six week, give or take a week. Are we on daylight saving time yet?"

Blessings

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,06:50

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation
for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and
prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

7 weeks + 62 weeks + 1 week = 49 days + 434 days + 7 days = 70 weeks



Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,09:17


                  one week


God rested on the seventh day.

Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night.
2Pe 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord
as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,10:09

Would you believe it!  I'm now down to drawing pictures:

God created TSD: Time, Size, and direction.

There is a reference point in the middle of each.

Someone said to me ,after I had mentioned that, "I don't believe in infinity."

I replied, "There are an infinite number of directions around a point to infinity distance wise."


                              here, O is real

Eze 44:1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it [was] shut
Eze 44:2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.
Eze 44:3 [It is] for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of [that] gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,12:39

All women should live so long as to be this kind of old lady!

Toward the end of Sunday service, the Minister asked,
" How many of you have forgiven your enemies? "

80% held up their hands.

The Minister then repeated his question. All responded this time, except one small elderly lady.

"Mrs. Neely?, Are you not willing to forgive your enemies? "

"I don't have any."She replied, smiling sweetly.

"Mrs. Neely, that is very unusual. How old are you?"

"Ninety-eight",she replied. The congregation stood up and clapped their hands.

"Oh, Mrs. Neely, would you please come down in front & tell us all how a person can live ninety-eight years & not have an enemy in the world? "

The little sweetheart of a lady tottered down the aisle, faced the congregation, and said, "I outlived the bitches."
Posted by: American Saddlebred on Feb. 05 2009,12:54

I loved the movie < Pi >.
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,13:19

Quote (American Saddlebred @ Feb. 05 2009,12:54)
I loved the movie < Pi >.
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Sounds interesting.
< http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/synopsis >

Driven to the brink of madness, Max experiences another headache and resists the urge to take his pain medication. Believing that the number and the headaches are linked, Max tries to concentrate on the number through the pain. After passing out, Max has a vision of himself standing in a white void and repeating the digits of the number. Max's neighbors discover him unconscious and revive him, breaking his vision. Giving up, Max trepans himself in the right temple, where he believes his mathematical genius is located. Whether this actually occurs is left ambiguous. Later, Max sits on a park bench and reveals that he is no longer able to perform complex mental calculation. He observes the trees blowing in the breeze, at peace.
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Sorta like my poem:

A gentle breeze stirs the trees.
Wind's affect is what one sees.

Have a good day Saddlebred
Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,14:30

‘Pi’ reminds me of 'A Beautiful Mind', a 2001 American biographical film about John Forbes Nash, the Nobel Memorial Economics Prize Laureate mathematician. Interesting movie but I found it very hard to distinguish fantasy from reality.


My poem refers to the wind in John and Eze:

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the
Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe
upon these slain, that they may live.

'Gone With the Wind' is my favorite movie.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,15:09

No biggie, but after I posted the above, I looked
down at the January Reader's Digest to:

'Back to basics:
How we can renew
America's dream'

God bless Americal

Zero

I reached the magic # (704)
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 05 2009,19:12

Tonight my wife said, "These cashews don't look so good."
I replied, "They're fine.  Close your eyes and you'll never notice."
I turned and walked into the den.  Bright House music channel # 434 was playing, 'Close your eyes'.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 06 2009,07:32

After getting all of Pope Benedict's luggage loaded into the limo, (and he doesn't travel light), the driver notices the Pope is still standing on the curb.

'Excuse me, Your Holiness,' says the driver, 'Would you please take your seat so we can leave?'

'Well, to tell you the truth,' says the Pope, 'they never let me drive at the Vatican when I was a cardinal, and I'd really like to drive today.'

'I'm sorry, Your Holiness, but I cannot let you do that. I'd lose my job! What if something should happen?' protests the driver, wishing he'd never gone to work that morning.

'Who's going to tell?' says the Pope with a smile.

Reluctantly, the driver gets in the back as the Pope climbs in behind the wheel. The driver quickly regrets his decision when, after exiting the airport, the Pontiff floors it, accelerating the limo to 205 kph. (Remember, the Pope is German.)

'Please slow down, Your Holiness!' pleads the worried driver, but the Pope keeps the pedal to the metal until they hear sirens.

'Oh, dear God, I'm going to lose my license -- and my job!' moans the driver.

The Pope pulls over and rolls down the window as the cop approaches, but the cop takes one look at him, goes back to his motorcycle, and gets on the radio.

'I need to talk to the Chief,' he says to the dispatcher.

The Chief gets on the radio and the cop tells him that he's stopped a limo going 205 kph.

'So bust him,' says the Chief.

'I don't think we want to do that, he's really important,' said the cop.

The Chief exclaimed,' All the more reason!'

'No, I mean really important,' said the cop with a bit of persistence.

The Chief then asked, 'Who do you have there, the mayor?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

Chief: ' A senator?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

Chief: 'The Prime Minister?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

'Well,' said the Chief, 'who is it?'

Cop: 'I think it's God!'

The Chief is even more puzzled and curious, 'What makes you think it's God?'

Cop: 'His chauffeur is the Pope!'
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 06 2009,09:54

From the bathroom wall:

(Permalink) Posted: Feb. 06 2009,04:57    

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote (Louis @ Feb. 06 2009,02:45)
Rather than cause further thread embuggerance as before I will say a profound thanks to everyone who has wished us well in the child producing and not-killing-until-they're-at-least-18-ish process.

I shall look up all those books and sing all those lullabies, although I did have a plan to read them incredibly dull bits of administration, SOPs*, legislation and what not. After all, they put ME to sleep....

Thanks one and all!

Louis

*I once worked for a company where we had an SOP describing the proper use of a corridor....

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Me:

Louis, for a moment, I thought you were going to say condom.

And let me try to be profound and explain the 18ish thing.
Life is about family and home.
And fly traps are made for flies.

If Jesus is God, and he came and said, "I am God's son." and most everyone wanted to kill him, who gets the last laugh?
It's not over till the pregnant wife sings.  Rev, 12:5

edit/add:
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Jam:
“The point I'm trying to make to everyone is that one can test predictions of ID hypotheses after the onion of dishonesty is peeled back.”
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Jam, what do you get when you cross an onion with a donkey?
Well, most of the time you get little onions, but once in a while you get a piece of ass soo good, it brings tears to your eyes.

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
The family of God, Trinity, consists of two males and one female.  One king, one colt, and one mother.

Love your kids with all your heart.  Any couple
who agrees to give up on a child and says in public, "We
give up on him. He will not obey us." have already
lost their own souls, their reason to live.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 07 2009,10:40

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 05 2009,14:30)
‘Pi’ reminds me of 'A Beautiful Mind', a 2001 American biographical film about John Forbes Nash, the Nobel Memorial Economics Prize Laureate mathematician. Interesting movie but I found it very hard to distinguish fantasy from reality.


My poem refers to the wind in John and Eze:

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit

.
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the
Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe
upon these slain, that they may live.

'Gone With the Wind' is my favorite movie.

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


< http://search.msn.com/results....+torino >

Watched Gran Torino last night.

The closing title song, written by Clint Eastwood,
talks about the wind.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 07 2009,13:04

Gen 11:28 And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.
Gen 11:31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
1Ch 11:35 Ahiam the son of Sacar the Hararite, Eliphal the son of Ur,
Neh 9:7 Thou [art] the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;

Where did Israel come from?

Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Gen 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
t/ur/tle
By chance, the Lord's prayer begins with "Our", O + ur , 15 + 39 = love (54) sooo, to begin with 'O' means:

Here, beginning the Lord's prayer, O is real.

O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

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edit/add:
f/o/ur  
w/in/ds (23/23/23)
I Am + I Am + I Am =23 + 23 + 23= Jehovah (69)
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds,
O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
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I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Ch



ch/ur/ch
11/39/11  (11 hid in 3 measures)

Zero
Posted by: Schroedinger's Dog on Feb. 08 2009,08:09

Quote (hereoisreal @ Feb. 07 2009,13:04)
Gen 11:28 And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees.
Gen 11:31 And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the son of Haran his son's son, and Sarai his daughter in law, his son Abram's wife; and they went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran, and dwelt there.
Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
1Ch 11:35 Ahiam the son of Sacar the Hararite, Eliphal the son of Ur,
Neh 9:7 Thou [art] the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;

Where did Israel come from?

Gen 15:7 And he said unto him, I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
Gen 15:9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
t/ur/tle
By chance, the Lord's prayer begins with "Our", O + ur , 15 + 39 = love (54) sooo, to begin with 'O' means:

Here, beginning the Lord's prayer, O is real.

O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

********************************
edit/add:
f/o/ur  
w/in/ds (23/23/23)
I Am + I Am + I Am =23 + 23 + 23= Jehovah (69)
Eze 37:9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind,
prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind,
Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds,
O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
***********************************
I [am] the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Ch



ch/ur/ch
11/39/11  (11 hid in 3 measures)

Zero
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Yeah, right...

Now you should try the same math with the words/names in their originial written forms (Hebraic, Arameic, even Greek if you want)...

Or do you think the buy-bull was intended to be translated to English from the beginning? I could perform the same stunt with the script of any given porn flick, I'm sure...

Playing with numbers is easy.
Posted by: Schroedinger's Dog on Feb. 08 2009,08:32

And I'd like to add that, having failed to read this whole thread at the moment, I might just have made a douchbag of myself, if your intents were just trivial.

My honest apologies if so...
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 08 2009,21:18

Quote (Schroedinger's Dog @ Feb. 08 2009,08:32)
And I'd like to add that, having failed to read this whole thread at the moment, I might just have made a douchbag of myself, if your intents were just trivial.

My honest apologies if so...
---------------------QUOTE-------------------


Schroedinger's Dog, please do read my 24 pages in your spare time.  If I had felt them trivial or trite, I would not have posted.
Now as for the currency or time dating  of an eternal, living God with  BC, O, & AD, 2009 AD certainly meets that criteria.
Also, if you like but probably won’t, you can run a word search for ‘for ever’ in the ‘buy-bull’, which is your way, I suppose, of demeaning some people’s holy book, a no no established by Wes when he begain this site.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 08 2009,23:00

This morning, after a round of golf, a number of us were in the club house sitting around talking.  Once it crossed my mind to tell a joke about a chauffeur.  I had posted it on this thread two days ago.  Then I decided not to do so for several reasons.
A few minutes later, one person in our group remarked out of the blue, “ Can you imagine Tom Daschle paying a chauffeur a quarter of a million dollars a year?  Geepers, even the president doesn’t make that much!”

For continuity, here’s the joke repeated:

After getting all of Pope Benedict's luggage loaded into the limo, (and he doesn't travel light), the driver notices the Pope is still standing on the curb.

'Excuse me, Your Holiness,' says the driver, 'Would you please take your seat so we can leave?'

'Well, to tell you the truth,' says the Pope, 'they never let me drive at the Vatican when I was a cardinal, and I'd really like to drive today.'

'I'm sorry, Your Holiness, but I cannot let you do that. I'd lose my job! What if something should happen?' protests the driver, wishing he'd never gone to work that morning.

'Who's going to tell?' says the Pope with a smile.

Reluctantly, the driver gets in the back as the Pope climbs in behind the wheel. The driver quickly regrets his decision when, after exiting the airport, the Pontiff floors it, accelerating the limo to 205 kph. (Remember, the Pope is German.)

'Please slow down, Your Holiness!' pleads the worried driver, but the Pope keeps the pedal to the metal until they hear sirens.

'Oh, dear God, I'm going to lose my license -- and my job!' moans the driver.

The Pope pulls over and rolls down the window as the cop approaches, but the cop takes one look at him, goes back to his motorcycle, and gets on the radio.

'I need to talk to the Chief,' he says to the dispatcher.

The Chief gets on the radio and the cop tells him that he's stopped a limo going 205 kph.

'So bust him,' says the Chief.

'I don't think we want to do that, he's really important,' said the cop.
The Chief exclaimed,' All the more reason!'

'No, I mean really important,' said the cop with a bit of persistence.

The Chief then asked, 'Who do you have there, the mayor?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

Chief: ' A senator?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

Chief: 'The Prime Minister?'
Cop: 'Bigger.'

'Well,' said the Chief, 'who is it?'

Cop: 'I think it's God!'

The Chief is even more puzzled and curious, 'What makes you think it's God?'

Cop: 'His chauffeur is the Pope!'

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 09 2009,05:29

2/1/09, my wife and I played golf with another couple at La Cita. When Joan, at one point, mentioned that she was infatuated with Freddy Couples and had talked with him at Bay Hill, the wife told us a story about her being filmed by the press at that same golf course.
“ ‘I love to watch Freddy, especially his cute little ass.’ I said on camera,” she remarked, “And that was shown on T V that made the national news.”

Following the round, I walked into the pro shop wearing a cap that appeared to have a foot long fish stuck through the middle of it.
“I like your hat.” the pro said with a reserved smile.”
“Hey!  Would you like to see it bassackerds?” I asked as I turned the hat backwards and walked away.
“Nice bass!” he exclaimed, as I left.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 09 2009,22:24


                      Ass plus half ass

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Edit/add 2/12/09 (my words):
What God has joined together, let no man put ass under.
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Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly,
and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Edit/add:
Exd 25:10 And they shall make an ark [of] shittim wood: two cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof, and a cubit and a half the height thereof.
Exd 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat [of] pure gold: two cubits and a half [shall be] the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof.

No height is given for the mercy seat. Apparently it is topless.

Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Feb. 10 2009,08:21


                         HOH (H2O)

Living waters:

Eze 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house;
and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward:
for the forefront of the house [stood toward] the east, and the waters came down
from under from the right side of the house, at the south [side] of the altar.
Eze 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.
Eze 47:9 And it shall come to pass, [that] every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.

Jhn 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.
Jhn 4:11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
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Zero
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 11 2009,15:38

Over 2,000 hits were made to my thread since I last posted here.
Ironically, IMO, the above post was the most profound statement
I’ve made on this site. I even remarked about it being post # 704.

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Here’s story # 258 on my web site:

#704
To me, the number 704 is one of the names of God. I see in G, O, and D, “Seven circles folded.” Jesus said there would be ‘‘one fold’’. There are seven spirits of God. (Rev. 4:5)
The children of Israel circled Jericho seven times, making a total of 2520 degrees. The two witnesses witnessed for a total of 2520 days. (2 times 1260) This is no accident.
704 says, “An ass and a colt, the fold of an ass.” (Zec. 9:9)
704 says, “First, last and nothing.”
704 says, “Alpha, Omega, and nothing.”
704 says, “Beginning, end, and nothing.”
704 says, “Jesus plus ‘nothing in me’.”
704 says “Where two or three are gathered together.”
704 says, “11 hidden in three measures.”
704 says, “You 12” (7, 4, and zero).
704 says, “88 x 8" (Jesus x 12 = 888)
704 says, “The starting point is in the middle of God.” (Mark 12:30) (12 x 30 degrees = 360 degrees) Here, O is real. Here in reality, O is real. Here in God, O is real.”
When I see 704 on Archie Bunker’s door, I think God.
When I see 704 on a General Dynamics submarine, I think God.
When I see 704 over a church door in a movie, I think God.
When I see 7:04 AM or 7:04 PM, I thank God for that day.
When I think or see 704, I thank God.
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Paradise

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee,
To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit
saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat
of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Life is about family.
IMHO, Zec 9:9 talks about God's family:

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

I see 'ass' as AZ.

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Paradise says, "Pair rode AZ".

"This day thou shalt be with me in paradise."

I was thinking about that the morning of Oct. 25, 2006 as I picked up my morning paper, the Florida Today.
The first word in the front headline said, 'Paradise'
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(1) God x God x God .................................................................. = 47,900,160
(2) 70 seven fold x 99 x love........................................................ = 47,900,160
(3) God x 1260 x love ................................................................ = 47,900,160
(4) 10 % of heaven seven fold x God x God ................................. = 47,900,160
(5) 10 % of heaven seven fold x (Eve + 22) x 1260....................... = 47,900,160
(6) (Eve x 22) x (Eve + 22) x seven circles folded ..........................= 47,900,160
(7) 704 x 1260 x 54 .................................................................. = 47,900,160
704 x 1260 = 32 x 77 x 360 .....so
(8) Eve x Christ x 360 x love (54)................................................ = 47,900,160
(9) One x one week x (3xGod) .................................................... = 47,900,160
(10) Iron x 2 x God .................................................................... = 47,900,160
(11) 1x2x3x4x5x6x7x8x9x11x12(10 % of ‘you 12')...................... = 47,900,160
(12) G x O x D x God x (3 x God)................................................ = 47,900,160
(13) First x last x It x (3 x God)................................................ ...= 47,900,160
(14) ( W + O + R + D ) x 3 AZ x (3 x God).................................. = 47,900,160
(15) (J x E x S x U x S x AZ) + (J + E + S + U + S) x AZ x 15 .......= 47,900,160
(16) AZ squared + (AZ x love) x (God x 3) ..................................= 47,900,160
(17) IRON x 11 seven fold...........................................................= 47,900,160
(18) Love/2 x 1260 x 11 seven fold..............................................= 47,900,160
(19) 360 cubed + (360 x love six fold)..........................................= 47,900,160

47,900,160 minus (Jesus squared x one) .................................... = 47,160,900

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Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on Mar. 11 2009,16:16

Hero - how mush 'math time' do you spend a day?
Posted by: hereoisreal on Mar. 11 2009,16:49

More than my bath time.  Gotta go shower.
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 16 2009,20:58

Enjoy:

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY&feature=related >

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on April 16 2009,21:36

Quote (hereoisreal @ April 16 2009,20:58)
Enjoy:

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY&feature=related >

Zero
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You can't help but smile and be a happy for her, eh?
Posted by: bfish on April 16 2009,23:56

Quote (Richardthughes @ April 16 2009,19:36)
Quote (hereoisreal @ April 16 2009,20:58)
Enjoy:

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY&feature=related >

Zero
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You can't help but smile and be a happy for her, eh?
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I wondered when that video would get referenced here. I've watched it several times over the last couple of days. I just find it very moving.
Posted by: hereoisreal on April 18 2009,21:39

Here's another one, a cell phone salesman singing Nessum Dorma

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y703tPc4PRk >

Zero
Posted by: Richardthughes on April 18 2009,21:42

Quote (hereoisreal @ April 18 2009,21:39)
Here's another one, a cell phone salesman singing Nessum Dorma

< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y703tPc4PRk >

Zero
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I saw that one maybe a year ago. Good for him!
Posted by: Henry J on June 24 2017,23:34

If that's supposed to be trying to sell something, they should pay more attention to matching language with audience...

ETA Just ignore this; what it was referring to isn't there anymore...
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