|The whole truth
Joined: Jan. 2012
|Quote (Soapy Sam @ Dec. 28 2012,06:11)|
|Quote (The whole truth @ Dec. 28 2012,13:41)|
|Quote (Soapy Sam @ Dec. 28 2012,04:39)|
|OK, Bazzer, materialists are dogmatists. You win ... something. Not sure what. Now show me a ghost, or a trace that cannot be explained by non-ghost processes.|
The topic has coaxed the usual anti-science suspects out of the woodwork. WJM, for example, exhibits his stock-in-trade dogmatic certainty that anyone who disbelieves without proving the negative is dogmatically blind:
|It’s fairly obvious that the belief that [gods, afterlives etc] do not exist are rooted in ideological commitment and not reason or evidence-based positions.|
An ideological commitment to be skeptical of that which could easily be made-up horseshit? Yeah, OK, you got me.
UD = undoubtedly deluded.
I notice that WJM said "gods". I wonder how many he believes in? And I hate to think of what his "etc" includes.
to be fair, the expansion in square brackets was mine. It replaced his actual text "such things", alluding to an earlier paragraph:
|There is evidence (yes, even scientific) for the existence of god, the supernatural, and the afterlife; there is no evidence (that I’m aware of, that anyone has offered me) that those things do not exist. . |
But yeah, why not - the evidence for God is the evidence for gods. What allows him to pare it down to a singular, I don't know. If there was more than one, you would expect --------. We don't find --------, therefore God.
Well, in that case I would ask, where is the alleged scientific evidence for the existence of god, the supernatural, the afterlife, and such things?
And yeah, what allows him to pare it down to a singular god? After all, if there is no evidence that gobs of gods do not exist, they must all exist, including the FSM!!!111!11!!
Hey wait a second, isn't yhwh alleged to be a three headed god? god, the son, and the holy GHOST?
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27