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carlsonjok



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,12:29   

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Mike Crotch - Banned for Being right - and this close to Christmas too.

What they need is to Seymour Butz over there...

Actually I think their moods would improve greatly with a visit by Amanda Hugginkiss.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,12:29   

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A more relevant exercise than Weasel (or Avida etc; cf the Dembski-Marks papers also linked above), would be to first generate an 8 bit PC and its OS and its associated execution machinery by chance plus functionality based survival — say by a version of Hoyle’s tornado in a junkyard, this time in Round Rock Texas.

To do that properly, don't you need to chuck it out of an aeroplane?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,12:50   

Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 18 2008,12:29)
To do that properly, don't you need to chuck it out of an aeroplane?

It needs to be chucked out of an aeroplane while it's passing over a junkyard.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,12:55   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 18 2008,13:50)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 18 2008,12:29)
To do that properly, don't you need to chuck it out of an aeroplane?

It needs to be chucked out of an aeroplane while it's passing over a junkyard.

during a tornado.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,12:58   

Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 18 2008,12:59)
So, what other simpsons prank phone call names can be used :)

After the Simpsons, we can move on to chicks from the Bond flicks.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,13:00   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,13:58)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 18 2008,12:59)
So, what other simpsons prank phone call names can be used :)

After the Simpsons, we can move on to chicks from the Bond flicks.

Choo Mi?

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,13:11   

Quote (khan @ Dec. 18 2008,14:00)
Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,13:58)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 18 2008,12:59)
So, what other simpsons prank phone call names can be used :)

After the Simpsons, we can move on to chicks from the Bond flicks.

Choo Mi?

Choo Mi?

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,14:36   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,13:55)
Quote (oldmanintheskydidntdoit @ Dec. 18 2008,13:50)
Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 18 2008,12:29)
To do that properly, don't you need to chuck it out of an aeroplane?

It needs to be chucked out of an aeroplane while it's passing over a junkyard.

during a tornado.

that whole "in order to simulate x the computer needs to be experiencing x" is the stupidest thing to ever emerge from UD. If it were true, if you wanted to model a lava flow, you'd have to throw the computer into a volcano.

I urge the UD crowd to model lava flows immediately.

   
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,14:59   

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Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,13:55)
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Quote (Bob O'H @ Dec. 18 2008,12:29)
To do that properly, don't you need to chuck it out of an aeroplane?

It needs to be chucked out of an aeroplane while it's passing over a junkyard.

during a tornado.

that whole "in order to simulate x the computer needs to be experiencing x" is the stupidest thing to ever emerge from UD. If it were true, if you wanted to model a lava flow, you'd have to throw the computer into a volcano.

I urge the UD crowd to model lava flows immediately.

I wonder how high the collective IQ of teh internets would rise should the entire UD crew throw their computers into a volcano.

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,15:05   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,14:59)

I wonder how high the collective IQ of teh internets would rise should the entire UD crew throw their computers into a volcano.

The collective IQ would rise some, but the entertainment value would take a huge hit. Willful stupidity is funny!  :p

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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,17:31   

DON'T DO IT TARDS.  DO NOT PUT THE COMPUTERS IN THE VOLCANOES NO MATTER WHAT BILL SAYS

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,18:03   

A word that is quite relevant to this thread

hathos

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,18:29   

i'm having one of those days where I just can't take the tard. I think it's because I'm training more and I haven't had a drink or a cigarette since last friday. (Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

"Let's see...what's on Dispatches....Texas Board of Education says creationism's not about religion (pow) Owww....Palin's church fire being blamed on lessee here's a quote 'The radically hateful, extremist and, now, violent (yes, violent!) homosexual movement is on the warpath and it can be suspected that they're responsible for hatefully burning the Church Sarah Palin attends.' (Pow) Owww Owwww...oh...lordy...what's next...Mike Huckabee says christians are horribly persecuted in the USA because atheists were allowed to put up a plaque (POW) OWWWW jesus christ. I don't know if I can take much more of this...."

and then I came over here and read a couple excerpts from UD and after a few short minutes I couldn't go on and I closed out the tab. I went and read some non-tardulent websites, like BoingBoing, and MSNBC, and Kevin Drum, and those felt good. Went outside and caught up on last month's New Yorkers. I just couldn't take the tard. One's constitution has to be properly fortified to withstand that kind of corrosive material. With no cigs or booze I'm in a weakened state. I couldn't take it.

   
khan



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,18:34   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 18 2008,19:29)
i'm having one of those days where I just can't take the tard. I think it's because I'm training more and I haven't had a drink or a cigarette since last friday. (Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

"Let's see...what's on Dispatches....Texas Board of Education says creationism's not about religion (pow) Owww....Palin's church fire being blamed on lessee here's a quote 'The radically hateful, extremist and, now, violent (yes, violent!) homosexual movement is on the warpath and it can be suspected that they're responsible for hatefully burning the Church Sarah Palin attends.' (Pow) Owww Owwww...oh...lordy...what's next...Mike Huckabee says christians are horribly persecuted in the USA because atheists were allowed to put up a plaque (POW) OWWWW jesus christ. I don't know if I can take much more of this...."

and then I came over here and read a couple excerpts from UD and after a few short minutes I couldn't go on and I closed out the tab. I went and read some non-tardulent websites, like BoingBoing, and MSNBC, and Kevin Drum, and those felt good. Went outside and caught up on last month's New Yorkers. I just couldn't take the tard. One's constitution has to be properly fortified to withstand that kind of corrosive material. With no cigs or booze I'm in a weakened state. I couldn't take it.

Reality is for those who can't handle drugs?

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"It's as if all those words, in their hurry to escape from the loony, have fallen over each other, forming scrambled heaps of meaninglessness." -damitall

That's so fucking stupid it merits a wing in the museum of stupid. -midwifetoad

Frequency is just the plural of wavelength...
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Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,19:20   

Quote (khan @ Dec. 18 2008,18:34)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 18 2008,19:29)
i'm having one of those days where I just can't take the tard. I think it's because I'm training more and I haven't had a drink or a cigarette since last friday. (Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

"Let's see...what's on Dispatches....Texas Board of Education says creationism's not about religion (pow) Owww....Palin's church fire being blamed on lessee here's a quote 'The radically hateful, extremist and, now, violent (yes, violent!) homosexual movement is on the warpath and it can be suspected that they're responsible for hatefully burning the Church Sarah Palin attends.' (Pow) Owww Owwww...oh...lordy...what's next...Mike Huckabee says christians are horribly persecuted in the USA because atheists were allowed to put up a plaque (POW) OWWWW jesus christ. I don't know if I can take much more of this...."

and then I came over here and read a couple excerpts from UD and after a few short minutes I couldn't go on and I closed out the tab. I went and read some non-tardulent websites, like BoingBoing, and MSNBC, and Kevin Drum, and those felt good. Went outside and caught up on last month's New Yorkers. I just couldn't take the tard. One's constitution has to be properly fortified to withstand that kind of corrosive material. With no cigs or booze I'm in a weakened state. I couldn't take it.

Reality is for those who can't handle drugs?

reality drugs can't handle who those is for

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,20:04   

I'm listening to the Skepticality podcast #091 where Swoopy and Derek interviewed Tiana Dietz and Kate Holden, the two women who went to visit Casey.

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

ETA: Link to Skepticality's podcast archive.

ETAA: Casey's letter "...is a big whiny whinefest."

Edited by Lou FCD on Dec. 18 2008,21:10

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,20:10   

Quote (carlsonjok @ Dec. 18 2008,10:29)
Quote (J-Dog @ Dec. 18 2008,12:22)
Mike Crotch - Banned for Being right - and this close to Christmas too.

What they need is to Seymour Butz over there...

Actually I think their moods would improve greatly with a visit by Amanda Hugginkiss.

Where it all began...

I especially like "Holden McGroin".

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,20:32   

Quote (Lou FCD @ Dec. 18 2008,21:04)
ETAA: Casey's letter "...is a big whiny whinefest."

that more or less sums the guy up, and to some degree, the entire ID project.

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,21:37   

Off topic: The worst Christmas album covers

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,21:59   

I thought we had a thread for off topic stuff.....

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,22:44   

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Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 17 2008,21:19)
is it just me, or does the current situation at UD seem less than stable?
The tard is approaching critical mass?
Seems like. However, I have the feeling that global tard is limited because while tard is currently concentrating at UD tard increase at OE came to a standstill recently.

There was a minor fluctuation (+10 user points in 20 days) in the O'Leary tard stream. However, it should be noted that tard increase during the last months was due to the O'Leary tard entity. The other tard streams have dried out even earlier.
It has indeed been predicted that the OE tard mine will be closed down in June 2009. Still, one should be aware that this may lead to over-critical local tard concentrations that may errupt in other places for which UD is the best candidate. Since UD is permanently observed by experienced tard investigators there's hope that ejected tard can be contained and that the consequences for the public will remain small.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,22:46   

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(Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

Yah, ya see, dats the problem der. Ya don' go to der unless ya wanta get kicked in da head. The win it happened, see, ya know, see? Dat's the "libertarian" hate of public schools, but they would be OK if they weren't public. They also got this "greed will make ya richer" and "screw yer neighbors, ya can move." I do not like 'em atal. Tey is da buggers.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,23:00   

This kind of shit spread by the Fundies pisses me off no end. :angry:

 
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O'Leary:

Ideas have consequences: Jesse Kilgore

Here’s a podcast with the father of 22-year-old Jesse Kilgore, who killed himself after reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.

Too bad young Jesse did not give himself a chance to read Alister McGrath’s The Dawkins Delusion. My thoughts and prayers are with all who knew him. No doubt there was more going on than we know.

It’s a very sober reminder that, in a world where many believe that young people care only about text messaging aimless gossip, some take the critical questions deadly seriously.

In a very different chain of events a lttile over a year ago, a young Finnish social Darwinist killed himself and eight others , in an event reminiscent of Eric Harris at Columbine.


I wonder if any of the UD ass sucking sycophants will ask about the thousands of gay Christian teenagers who have committed suicide over the years after being rejected by the Church they trusted and told they are evil sinners who will burn in hell?

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sparc



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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,23:06   

Is there something like partial bannination at UD?
I still can log in to comment in some other threads but if I try to comment on D'OL's latest I am again and again re-directed to the UD login page and the comment window doesn't open.
ETA: Seems that has been a technical problem. I can log in again.

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"[...] the type of information we find in living systems is beyond the creative means of purely material processes [...] Who or what is such an ultimate source of information? [...] from a theistic perspective, such an information source would presumably have to be God."

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 18 2008,23:24   

Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 18 2008,19:59)
I thought we had a thread for off topic stuff.....

The Bathroom Wall? Nah, that's now the Official Daniel Smith thread.

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2008,00:14   

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stevestory:i'm having one of those days where I just can't take the tard. I think it's because I'm training more and I haven't had a drink or a cigarette since last friday. (Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

I've heard that double strength heroin dulls the senses enough to blunt the worst of the tard.  Trouble is that the effective anti-tard dose is about 93% of the lethal dose.  Still, even if you overdose and die, at least you're beyond the reach of tard forever.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2008,00:22   

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Occam's Aftershave: I wonder if any of the UD ass sucking sycophants will ask about the thousands of gay Christian teenagers who have committed suicide over the years after being rejected by the Church they trusted and told they are evil sinners who will burn in hell?

Or the kids whose mothers killed them so they'd go to a better world.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2008,00:29   

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stevestory:i'm having one of those days where I just can't take the tard. I think it's because I'm training more and I haven't had a drink or a cigarette since last friday. (Grrrr) But I woke up this morning and checked Ed Brayton's site, and it was like being punched in the head.

I've heard that double strength heroin dulls the senses enough to blunt the worst of the tard.  Trouble is that the effective anti-tard dose is about 93% of the lethal dose.  Still, even if you overdose and die, at least you're beyond the reach of tard forever.

During the week I've been living on, basically, chicken cesar salad with croutons, and stir fry veggies with soy sauce and some chicken thrown in. No booze, no cigs. Sadly, such sacrifices are required to go from good shape to really good shape. Fortunately my Fridays and Saturdays are All Bets Are Off days, so you can bet that about 12 or so hrs from now I'll be at the gas station for some smokes and then the package store for Teh Cleer Liqiuds!!!!!!!!!1111111 So i should be able to handle the straight up tard by tomorrow night or so. Meantime, man, this is rough. I've been a little snippy with the tutoring clients and the UD has been way, way too radioactive to go near in my weakened condition. I'll be nice and inoculated by tomorrow night, and can go check out UD without risk of aneurysm.

"I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case I see a snake-- which I also keep handy." -W.C. Fields

   
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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2008,07:33   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Dec. 19 2008,05:24)
Quote (stevestory @ Dec. 18 2008,19:59)
I thought we had a thread for off topic stuff.....

The Bathroom Wall? Nah, that's now the Official Daniel Smith thread.

More's the pity. We've appealed to Wes for clemency, but he is stony and stoic in his rejection of our pleas.

Mind you, Danny has been an utter arse, and the Wall is probably the best place for him.

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Dec. 19 2008,08:02   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ Dec. 18 2008,21:00)
This kind of shit spread by the Fundies pisses me off no end. :angry:
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O'Leary:

Ideas have consequences: Jesse Kilgore

Here’s a podcast with the father of 22-year-old Jesse Kilgore, who killed himself after reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.

Too bad young Jesse did not give himself a chance to read Alister McGrath’s The Dawkins Delusion. My thoughts and prayers are with all who knew him. No doubt there was more going on than we know.

It’s a very sober reminder that, in a world where many believe that young people care only about text messaging aimless gossip, some take the critical questions deadly seriously.

In a very different chain of events a lttile over a year ago, a young Finnish social Darwinist killed himself and eight others , in an event reminiscent of Eric Harris at Columbine.

I wonder if any of the UD ass sucking sycophants will ask about the thousands of gay Christian teenagers who have committed suicide over the years after being rejected by the Church they trusted and told they are evil sinners who will burn in hell?

Domoman announces the results of his careful research:
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That’s sad about Jesse Kilgore.  I heard suicide rates increased in one particular country after Sam Harris released “The End of Faith”.


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