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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,13:24   

Dang, Rich Hughes beat me to it. I came over here specifically to post that.

ERV's blog is one of the best out there. Her going after Mike Behe is like sending the 10th Mountain Division against a jaywalking grandma.

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,13:27   

She has a wonderful malicious streak, too!

Go Abby!

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,15:32   

Behe is going to lose his shirt over this... and from his picture on the Amazon site, I think that's a good thing.

BEHE:
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.

UD-ERS:
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BEHE:
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.

UD-ERS
He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BEHE:
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.

UD-ERS:
He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!

He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

BEHE:
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papa.

UD-ERS:
He cuts down trees. He wears high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra?!

[talking]
What's this? Wants to be a girlie?! Oh, My!
And I thought you were so rugged! Poofter!...

[singing]
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

He's a lumberjack, and he's okaaaaay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,16:12   

Contrary to the observations of drive-by Creationists, Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.

I emailed Cristian Apetrei and told him Behe was misrepresenting his work.  I hope he responds :)


Oh dont act so surprised-- Im a little sister, for petes sake.

  
Ftk



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,17:09   

Quote (ERV @ Oct. 19 2007,16:12)
Contrary to the observations of drive-by Creationists, Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.

I emailed Cristian Apetrei and told him Behe was misrepresenting his work. †I hope he responds :)


Oh dont act so surprised-- Im a little sister, for petes sake.

 
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Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.


Is there a difference?



[runs like the wind as she feels the breath of the hounds of hell fast at her heels]

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JAM



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,20:00   

There's some truly awesome tard from ba77. He conflated "six orders of magnitude" with "six-fold."

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,20:07   

Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 19 2007,17:09)
Quote (ERV @ Oct. 19 2007,16:12)
Contrary to the observations of drive-by Creationists, Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.

I emailed Cristian Apetrei and told him Behe was misrepresenting his work. †I hope he responds :)


Oh dont act so surprised-- Im a little sister, for petes sake.

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Im not a bitch.

Im a brat.


Is there a difference?



[runs like the wind as she feels the breath of the hounds of hell fast at her heels]

Meow! Meow! Meow!

There.  FTK I fixed it for you.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,20:14   

Quote (JAM @ Oct. 19 2007,20:00)
There's some truly awesome tard from ba77. He conflated "six orders of magnitude" with "six-fold."

Cool!  And when called on it, he replies: "Your arguing over very trivial points of increased efficency, trying to prove "Hey look this might be increased complexity in a minor part of a existing system, so Behe is wrong!""  

My bolding, just to highlight the trivial error...

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,20:16   

Quote (JAM @ Oct. 19 2007,21:00)
There's some truly awesome tard from ba77. He conflated "six orders of magnitude" with "six-fold."

didn't he also demonstrate an inability to use algebra last week? He's the perfect ID mark.

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 19 2007,23:27   

I think Batshit77 is on our side.

He regularly posts his "12 reasons" that are the worst non-sequiturs in a long time and writes "theism" instead of "ID' whilst linking to YEC websites. Magic!

Sleeper agent Batshit77, I salute you.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
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W. Kevin Vicklund



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2007,12:20   

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There's some truly awesome tard from ba77. He conflated "six orders of magnitude" with "six-fold."


That's an 8 cDmb error!

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2007,13:18   

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/project.html

just a thought.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 20 2007,16:47   

On Behe's latest blog post, BA77 tards out when asked to provide a testable ID hypothesis that generates predictions that would be different from those of evolutionary theory.  
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The Theistic postulation for ID would postulate that the human genome will be found to have a interwoven dependent complexity of information in the genome that will severely tax, if not surpass, man's ability to completely understand it!

Whereas, Evolution requires much of the genome to be non-functional and also to be independent of interdependent complexity so as to be flexible to changes required for the evolutionary scenario.

Since further work in ENCODE is going to test this very hypothesis I have outlined for each hypothesis, Is that a specific enough testable hypothesis for you?


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Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2007,12:52   

Smokey nails Cunningham/BA77 for plagiarizing.

All Science So Far!

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Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2007,18:04   

Ouch.

   
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2007,10:03   

Over at Amazon, Ian Musgrave dismantles Behe's reply to ERV.

Can you spell "pwned"?

Apparently, neither can I. ;)  But it is definitely what happened there.

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2007,10:19   

I hope most people can follow Abbie's argument. It's very entertaining to watch her stomp him.

   
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2007,10:46   

Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Oct. 22 2007,10:03)
Over at Amazon, Ian Musgrave dismantles Behe's reply to ERV.

Can you spell "pwned"?

Apparently, neither can I. ;) †But it is definitely what happened there.

http://pandasthumb.org/archive....ts-open

Via PT

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2007,11:51   

On the "how does the actor act?" thread at UD, Joe G continues his dishonesty after fleeing the Amazon blog.  
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Over on Amazon (Dr Beheís blog) a biologist claimed that carpenters, plumbers and electricians have specific mechanisms. However if I give 5 carpenters, 5 plumbers and 5 electricians a job to do it is very likely that each will do it differently. IOW there isnít one mechanism for carpentry, one for plumbing and one for electricians. They have a job and they do it per the specifications.

The "biologist" happens to be me. Here's what I actually wrote.  
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Joe

Design is WHAT you want to do. A mechanism is HOW you do it. Your encyclopedia definitions point that out very well. A design is a formulation or a plan. A mechanism is "methods, procedures, processes". Thanks for proving my point.

If you can't understand this, or still think it is not the case, please tell me how a design for your house can, by itself, generate the house without involving intervening mechanical stages. Do you want to cower under a blueprint (design) when winter weather comes? Or would you rather involve carpentry, plumbing, and electrical work (mechanisms) to build a house that is a lot more substantial than that blueprint?

Did I write that there is "one mechanism" for each of these trades? No, I used them as examples of actual mechanistic processes, which are necessary to get from the blueprint (design) to the house (living things).

If the IDiots couldn't put words in your mouth, they couldn't  "argue" at all. Pathetic.

Joe, if you are reading this, please come back to the Amazon site instead of hiding behind DT's skirts at UD. It would be a pleasure to kick your heinie again.

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
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As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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blipey



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2007,12:13   

I don't think you want Joe to come back; I really don't.  I'm not sure he's smart enough to feed himself cereal in the morning.

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slpage



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2007,14:02   

Joey really has no idea how much of an asshole he makes himself out to be, does he?

"Cetaceans are much more than a loss of hind-limbs. There should be at least 50,000 intermediates."

Looks like somebody has been listening to DI philosopher-idiots again...

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 24 2007,14:28   

Quote (slpage @ Oct. 24 2007,14:02)
Joey really has no idea how much of an asshole he makes himself out to be, does he?

"Cetaceans are much more than a loss of hind-limbs. There should be at least 50,000 intermediates."

Looks like somebody has been listening to DI philosopher-idiots again...

Are you questioning the validity of his 50,000 intermediate stages?

I am sure he could show us the sciencey and mathy sounding numbers he used to achieve this level of total consciousness.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2007,06:39   

Quote (blipey @ Oct. 24 2007,12:13)
I don't think you want Joe to come back; I really don't.  I'm not sure he's smart enough to feed himself cereal in the morning.

Joe hasn't come back yet, and I predict he won't. He can't control the conversation there, and it is too public a place for him to be comfortable with getting smacked around by all the other commenters.

Behe has a new post on his Amazon site; comments are open. This one is all about theology.

All Science So Far!

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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Occam's Toothbrush



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2007,06:54   

Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 19 2007,18:09)
[runs like the wind as she feels the breath of the hounds of hell fast at her heels]

That's not the breath of the hounds of hell, it's the rest of us collectively yawning in boredom.

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Shirley Knott



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2007,07:17   

Quote (Occam's Toothbrush @ Oct. 25 2007,06:54)
 
Quote (Ftk @ Oct. 19 2007,18:09)
[runs like the wind as she feels the breath of the hounds of hell fast at her heels]

That's not the breath of the hounds of hell, it's the rest of us collectively yawning in boredom.

Indeed, with FiK's sterling example, we have the standard by which to distinguish 'brats' from 'bitches'. †FtK is not a brat.

hugs,
Shirley Knott

  
Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2007,17:31   

I don't have anything to add to the discussion.

I'm just following Shirley around today (cue Pigpen singing "Good morning, li'l schoolgirl")...

Don't worry, Shirley.  It's only for today.  And just 'cause I'm in need of hugs.

Tomorrow's Friday.  I'll feel better (aka "The TGIF Effect").

And I'll follow afdave around instead...

  
Shirley Knott



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 25 2007,18:01   

Trust me, I'm lots more fun than antiFactDavie.
I'm better looking, more honest, considerably less insane, kinder to animals, indeed, with respect to davie-doodles, I remain fitter, happier, more productive.
But then so is your average corpse...
;-)

hugs,
Shirley Knott

  
Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2007,11:34   

Behe's latest Amazon post is a classic.

All Science So Far!

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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oldmanintheskydidntdoit



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2007,11:40   

Behe also says in that post
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Even if God purposely designed the malarial parasite, He may not have decreed that a particular infected mosquito would bite a particular person on a particular day, or that a particular tiger would eat some one in particular.


Behe - it's the "designer" not "god" you fool.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 28 2007,12:04   

BA77 (aka Philip Cunningham) has re-emerged from under the UD rock to comment again on Behe's latest blog post. He has been joined by another creo named JF Stanley.

Come on over and join the fun!

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Flesh of the sky, child of the sky, the mind
Has been obligated from the beginning
To create an ordered universe
As the only possible proof of its own inheritance.
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