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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 16 2017,18:15   

Quote (JohnW @ Aug. 16 2017,15:29)
Of course.  That's why god rewarded them by letting them have slaves.

You have a career in Prosperity Gospel Preaching.


   
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 09 2017,13:34   


  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2017,10:40   

Mung better hope he's not a white guy living in America.

or, secondly, anyone living anywhere.

   
clamboy



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 26 2017,23:31   

Good lord 'n butter! How can I miss you, J-Mac, if you won't leave???

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2017,19:01   


  
Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2017,19:53   

I see Sal "the human shit stain" Cordova has decided to use TSZ as his own personal pulpit for preaching.  The gospel according to Sal of course.

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"Science is what got us to the humble place we’re at, and what hard-won progress we might realize comes from science, with ID completely flaccid, religious apologetics bitching from the sidelines." - Eigenstate at UD

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2017,21:00   

He's shilling someone called Joel Osteen.



Now there's a face you can trust.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2017,21:20   

You'd think with all his money he'd pick a better set of dentures.

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"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

"I am in a rush to catch up with science work." -- Gary Gaulin

  
Acartia_Bogart



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 09 2017,22:50   

Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 09 2017,21:20)
You'd think with all his money he'd pick a better set of dentures.

Are you a denture racist?

  
k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2017,08:38   

Quote (Acartia_Bogart @ Nov. 10 2017,06:50)
Quote (fnxtr @ Nov. 09 2017,21:20)
You'd think with all his money he'd pick a better set of dentures.

Are you a denture racist?

His bark is bigger than his bite.

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Occam's Aftershave



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 10 2017,10:03   

Quote (Woodbine @ Nov. 09 2017,21:00)
He's shilling someone called Joel Osteen.



Now there's a face you can trust.

That's the dick who wouldn't let hurricane victims in Houston use his mega-church as a shelter because he didn't want the carpets being soiled.  A real Godly man for sure.

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"Science is what got us to the humble place we’re at, and what hard-won progress we might realize comes from science, with ID completely flaccid, religious apologetics bitching from the sidelines." - Eigenstate at UD

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2017,04:01   

Some quality TARD over at SZ

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The Ills of the Skeptical Movement
Posted on November 21, 2017 by phoodoo
In another post, recent contributor TomMueller stated that GPS satellites use relativistic synchronization to match up their clocks with earthbound clocks.  I explained to him that this was not so, even though its easy to believe, if you don’t think critically, that it is.

Tom followed my post to him with a litany of ad hominem, “Oh, you are a moron, you are a troll, creationist idiots,  I read about it on a credible site, I talked to a physics professor about it…” and on and on he went with his insults and denial.

Now to be fair to Tom, if you just read mainstreams sites, like Wikipedia, or Wired or Salon, or even many science websites, this is the information you will find-that GPS satellites use Einstein’s theory of relativity to sync their clocks to earth clocks.  Its written everywhere, surely it must be true.  But I know why its not true, because I actually thought about it. At first I just had a hunch about it, but again, if you just google it, most sites will tell you its true.  But it didn’t make sense to me, for so many reasons.  What clocks are the satellite clocks syncing with, a GPS’s receivers clock?  Huh?  How precise are they?  For that matter, how precise are any clocks.  Its nearly impossible to ever get ANY two clocks to match.

I also read about the so called Haefele-Keating atomic clocks, where relativistic changes in clocks due to speed was tested and confirmed aboard airplanes going around the earth. Again, everywhere you looked online, they say its true.  It was tested, it worked.  And its bullshit.  But how would one know, if all you did was read what is supposedly credible sources, written by academics and scholars and Wikipedia…

I wouldn’t even bother telling you how I learned it was not true.  I wouldn’t even bother citing sources, because all skeptics do is try to spew the same old defense, “Oh, that source is for cranks, try MY sources, they are the best parrots for information.” I learned by thinking, skeptics will never understand that.



And so here’s the thing, I didn’t learn that things are complete bullshit, by just going to the vast amount of sources online that claim they are true, instead I thought about.   But here’s what skeptics, as ironic as it sounds, tell you to do.  They tell you to just accept the common wisdom.  Accept that these science facts must be true, because someone famous says so.  Accept that evolution is true, accept that GMO foods are good for you, accept that Oswald acted alone, accept that alternative medicine is all fake, accept that bigPharm is looking out for your best interests, accept materialism, accept that every time you hear about a study which contradicts strict materialism it must be wrong, accept that every time someone challenges the scientific consensus, then they are by definition quacks, and basically just stop thinking for yourself.  The skeptical movement is founded on the exact opposite principle of be skeptical, instead it means to simply follow whatever the skeptic movement tells you must be right.



Its the same everywhere, on podcast like the Skeptics Guide to the Universe, or anything with Seth Shostak, or Michael Shermer, or Phil Plaitt, or Neil Degrasse Tyson or Bill Nye, or any of the whole community of people who identify themselves as skeptics, by virtue that they all believe exactly the same things.  This toxic thought has seeped into virtually every source of information you can find, be it television, news, blogs, everywhere.  They will claim they are deep thinkers, and this is how they found the answers, buts its a con game, they are anything but, they are sheep.  They never have an original thought, ever.  I think I even read Lawrence Krauss repeating this same crap line about relativity and GPS satellites-and he has a PhD in physics, for crying out loud.  But don’t ask him to think, he prefers to just parrot the party line, its so much easier.

So nowadays where do you find truth, it sure as hell ain’t easy, thanks to these brainwashed preachers of the scientific consensus.  Its what leads Allan to make ludicrous statements about what fitness means, its what leads parrots like Tom Mueller to say, “Oh, I read it about it, so how dare you say its not true! Moron!”



The skeptic movement is one of the biggest diseases to stifle learning that I can think of.  They cloud every news article, and every attempt at understanding with their atheist based need to preach their worldview.  Its just like Lynn Margulis said, they want to tell everyone what to think, by telling them to stop thinking.  I despise these types of thought Nazis.  They are the worst thing that has ever happened to academia.

  
fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Nov. 22 2017,10:05   

Someone's been hitting the bug powder.

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"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

"I am in a rush to catch up with science work." -- Gary Gaulin

  
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