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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,00:52   

The "once saved, always saved" thing in Calvinism always seemed to me to be at odds with the scripture that has Jesus telling people that many that said, "Lord, lord", would end up being rejected. I suppose you could argue that those people were never saved, but I think that it is a self-defeating argument.

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,01:11   

Quote (stevestory @ July 19 2007,00:19)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 19 2007,01:12)
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Quote (BWE @ July 19 2007,00:56)
Well, since I doubt I could ever get in there after the gay thing and all the meth I used to do I suppose I won't have to worry about having to drink it.

So just be a Calvinist. Doesn't matter what you do, or think, you're saved or not based on unknowable notions god has. Actions divorced from consequences. (c.f. David Heddle's blog)

Technically speaking, you wouldn't have to even BE a Calvinist to be saved, provided you had one of the Lucky Tickets, no?

Oh, yeah. that's totally right. I didn't mean be a Calvinist to be saved, I meant be a Calvinist to feel better about whether or not you were saved. Personally, I think that's all gibberish, which is why I put it on the Bathroom Wall.

I just think this is one of the better nested quote images I've seen in a long time So I thought I'd go with it. Does old Ted still say he's going to heaven?

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When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,02:10   

Still going to heaven? Hah! He's missed his chance.

Where he was must have been about the closest he's ever going to get to it.

Getting blown by a greek god while out on Meth along with the exquisite guilt and smug satisfaction afterwords WAS heaven for him.

.....Just think, what could be a more perfect hell for a gay lotus eater than where he is now.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,04:30   

Quote (BWE @ July 19 2007,05:56)
Well, since I doubt I could ever get in there after the gay thing and all the meth I used to do I suppose I won't have to worry about having to drink it.

****DANGER WARNING****

Dear All,

It would appear we have a gay. Please get down on your knees and pray to Jebus that teh gayons will not irradiate you with gayosity. Make sure that when praying you back is to the wall in case teh gay comes up behind you and does teh gay to you. Ted Haggard caught teh gay and he's one of George Bush's and Jebus' best mates, SO IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU.

And remember killing gays for Jebus is good, it's what GAWD wants you to do because otherwise you cannot prove your are not a gay. Killing a gay demonstrates you are all about teh ladies.

This has been a public service announcement on behalf of dear, sweet Fred Phelps and who thinks we all need to die because we tolerate teh gay.

Louis

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,12:51   

Did Fred ever post anything about Ted? I'm too scared to go to his web site.  And, Louis. Um. If you remember, you were there. Are you sure you want to call attention to that little transgression? I thought we agreed to put that behind us.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,13:02   

Quote (BWE @ July 19 2007,12:51)
Did Fred ever post anything about Ted? I'm too scared to go to his web site.  And, Louis. Um. If you remember, you were there. Are you sure you want to call attention to that little transgression? I thought we agreed to put that behind us.

Dude, give it up, it's all on YouTube.

Twice.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,13:52   

Quote (BWE @ July 19 2007,18:51)
Did Fred ever post anything about Ted? I'm too scared to go to his web site.  And, Louis. Um. If you remember, you were there. Are you sure you want to call attention to that little transgression? I thought we agreed to put that behind us.

BITCH! You swore you'd never tell!

Don't expect me to do all those things you like but which for the sake of a) people's digestion and mental health and b) modesty I shall refrain from describing but involve bananas.

Louis

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BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: July 19 2007,19:18   

I didn't tell. Tell what? You want to go back to the banana? What about the... Er. Never mind.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,08:33   

Quote (Louis @ July 20 2007,14:26)
LOL!! That bit wasn't the compliment. The bit before it was. Like it or not Heddle on religion is smug and trite, like most religious people I encounter.

Should I whine about your horrid and nasty criticism of me? Or should perhaps realise that I do some things you like and some other things you don't? ;-)

Louis

Only smug and trite on religion? Don't forget the cc and why it is a certain amount of Heddle units. The guy is a grade A tosser and if I did happen to run into him in a pub I'd happily tip his beer down his pants to see just how much of a Xstain he is. I wouldn't give him the time of day if I owned a clock factory. As far as calling Dr Doctor Dembski (I presume) a lying half assed twit, isn't it just because his big lie isn't the same breed as Dembski's big lie?
Just remember Heddle....there's nothing tautological about a good blow job ...except when you get one.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
VMartin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,13:00   

Arden Chatfield'  lies about my latest posts at "Frontloading" thread:

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His stock reply can be summed up as "of course you are thinking that because of you are all foolish atheist Darwinist". Press him harder and he'll denounce your morality ("something bad may happen to you") and call you a Nazi. And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


Check the thread "Frontloading" and make your own conclusion who is more denigrated.

As to "something bad may happen to you" it is shameless misinterpretation of my sentence I wrote Kristine:


"Otherwise you could come to a bad end like we (John Davison and me) and Bruno, Nietzsche, and Nabokov as well."


We were all banned from Pharyngula by PZ Meyeres and I warned Kristine that she could be banned as well. That was a good advice her not to agree with us, otherwise she will be banned by PZ Meyeres. Check it yourselves on Kristine blog:

http://amused-muse.blogspot.com/2007....ed.html

I didn't call anyone here  "Nazi". I only expressed my opinion that Chatfield - and he only - is like National socialist because he repeatedly brought up my  nationality and made  bold off-topic generalisation about psychology of East-European and Slovak people.

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And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


The latest question - if some dogs races could interbreed and if they  represent ongoing speciation I answered at Frontloading thread. Check it again yourselves.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,13:08   

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"Otherwise you could come to a bad end like we (John Davison and me) and Bruno, Nietzsche, and Nabokov as well."


Now that we have you here V, would you care to explain what exactly you meant by this?

 
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We were all banned from Pharyngula by PZ Meyeres and I warned Kristine that she could be banned as well.


Bruno, Nietzsche, and Nabokov were banned by PZ?

I had no idea PZ was that old.

I don't think Kristine is likely to be banned from PZ's blog, because she doesn't use multiple names:

 
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VMartin
AKA Huslista, jenik, janko, anodano, Pjetiir, DobzhanskyisInvalidFly, Pjeter, pjotr, FRANK2, SKAS, skuska, deletedtext, John's friend, ForbiddenTruth, anti-darwinians, Peppered-antimoth, CharlatanDarwin, Anti-darwin, skusto, zakazaneovocie, and others


And she's never done this:

 
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He has also done something particularly contemptible: using other people's username and email address to try and sneak past the filters.


 
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The latest question - if some dogs races could interbreed and if they  represent ongoing speciation I answered at Frontloading thread. Check it again yourselves.


Now that you're so eager to answer questions, would you care to tell us why evolution stopped, and who stopped it?

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IanBrown_101



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,13:20   

Quote (VMartin @ July 20 2007,13:00)
Arden Chatfield'  lies about my latest posts at "Frontloading" thread:

 
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His stock reply can be summed up as "of course you are thinking that because of you are all foolish atheist Darwinist". Press him harder and he'll denounce your morality ("something bad may happen to you") and call you a Nazi. And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


Check the thread "Frontloading" and make your own conclusion who is more denigrated.

As to "something bad may happen to you" it is shameless misinterpretation of my sentence I wrote Kristine:


"Otherwise you could come to a bad end like we (John Davison and me) and Bruno, Nietzsche, and Nabokov as well."


We were all banned from Pharyngula by PZ Meyeres and I warned Kristine that she could be banned as well. That was a good advice her not to agree with us, otherwise she will be banned by PZ Meyeres. Check it yourselves on Kristine blog:

http://amused-muse.blogspot.com/2007....ed.html

I didn't call anyone here  "Nazi". I only expressed my opinion that Chatfield - and he only - is like National socialist because he repeatedly brought up my  nationality and made  bold off-topic generalisation about psychology of East-European and Slovak people.

 
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And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


The latest question - if some dogs races could interbreed and if they  represent ongoing speciation I answered at Frontloading thread. Check it again yourselves.

" is like National socialist"

Where is he supposed to be from, exactly?

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You NEVER seem to address the fact that the grand majority of people supporting Darwinism in these on line forums and blogs are atheists. That doesn't seem to bother you guys in the least. - FtK

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,13:28   

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Where is he supposed to be from, exactly?


Who, V?

Bratislava, Slovakia.

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"Rich is just mad because he thought all titties had fur on them until last week when a shorn transvestite ruined his childhood dreams by jumping out of a spider man cake and man boobing him in the face lips." - Erasmus

  
Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,15:02   

Quote (stevestory @ July 18 2007,23:39)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 19 2007,00:35)
Would heaven have their own booze?

I've been told if heaven has its own booze it looks like this



but I've never had the stuff.

Chimay Red is nice, but it's no leffe blonde.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
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Steviepinhead



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,15:06   

Just when I'm getting whiplash of the brain trying to wrap it around having BWE and ke both posting interdigitally on the same thread (maybe I just have initialexia?), along comes Vmartin to pinch what's left of my nerves.

Surely there is no consistency to his fractured english.  Surely he is simply a poseur conning poor jad (arrgh! ouch!) along...

Or maybe Vmartin is an initialization, too: very muddled anti rational twisted inept nerdling.

Dang!  I thought that was going to spell "sycophant."  Though I've yet to see an ant which could sigh and cough at the same time.

  
Mike PSS



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,16:46   

Quote (stevestory @ July 19 2007,00:39)
Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 19 2007,00:35)
Would heaven have their own booze?

I've been told if heaven has its own booze it looks like this



but I've never had the stuff.

stevestory,
Very easy to find.
Wander down to the Flying Saucer bar, downtown Raleigh.
I go there every time I visit.

Don't expect a beer taste, it's richer than that.

Plus, that bar has 150 other beers to try before the night is through.

  
"Rev Dr" Lenny Flank



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,17:10   

I'm sorry, Martin --- did you, uh, say something?

(yawn)

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VMartin



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,17:16   

Chatfield about Pharyngula and me:
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He has also done something particularly contemptible: using other people's username and email address to try and sneak past the filters.


Uf. Thats horrible and despicable. But it was also doctor of darwinism PZMeyeres himself who sneaked his own filters and wrote this obscene post:

 
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#45

I don't need to masturbate. I have VMartin for that.
I love it so!

Posted by: John A. Davison | May 21, 2007 08:11 PM


John Davison had been banned at those time you know.
But I underestand that PZM was very upset that somebody else sneaked his "filters" too.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/05/its_still_going_on.php

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2007,18:41   

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Uf. Thats horrible and despicable. But it was also doctor of darwinism PZMeyeres himself who sneaked his own filters and wrote this obscene post:



#45

I don't need to masturbate. I have VMartin for that.
I love it so!

Posted by: John A. Davison | May 21, 2007 08:11 PM



('Uf'?)

Do you have any proof PZ wrote this? "Davison says so" doesn't count. "But it was on PZ's blog" doesn't count, either.

I see you still avoid questions, Martin. Bravo.

Now toddle back to Davison. I think I hear him calling for you. He sounds lonely.



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Blair



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2007,06:33   

"Elimination of the weak and defective, the first principle of our philosphy! And we should help them to do it!"

From The Anti Christ, sec 2, by Nietzsche the Syphillitic Lunatic

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2007,09:52   

Some idiot called steve said:
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Dang!  I thought that was going to spell "sycophant."  Though I've yet to see an ant which could sigh and cough at the same time.


OK; is that an elyphant in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? Whatever, at a 120 powers of magnitude bigger or smaller than your pocket depending on what is expected size wise vis a vi cosmilogical smelephants we have a heddle sized pocket egophant which probably leaves turds the size of volkswagens on informations byways. Be carful when driveling and prey on sundays, the weakest day of the heard. Don't Dembski that jesus joint and forgive us our Osmas for thighs will be done in Perth as any other place. Lead us not onto freeways and deliver UPS, four things is the wingding and the flour makes the bread two ever and ever, Ra.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2007,21:12   

Quote (VMartin @ July 20 2007,12:00)
Arden Chatfield'  lies about my latest posts at "Frontloading" thread:

 
Quote

His stock reply can be summed up as "of course you are thinking that because of you are all foolish atheist Darwinist". Press him harder and he'll denounce your morality ("something bad may happen to you") and call you a Nazi. And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


Check the thread "Frontloading" and make your own conclusion who is more denigrated.

As to "something bad may happen to you" it is shameless misinterpretation of my sentence I wrote Kristine:


"Otherwise you could come to a bad end like we (John Davison and me) and Bruno, Nietzsche, and Nabokov as well."


We were all banned from Pharyngula by PZ Meyeres and I warned Kristine that she could be banned as well. That was a good advice her not to agree with us, otherwise she will be banned by PZ Meyeres. Check it yourselves on Kristine blog:

http://amused-muse.blogspot.com/2007....ed.html

I didn't call anyone here  "Nazi". I only expressed my opinion that Chatfield - and he only - is like National socialist because he repeatedly brought up my  nationality and made  bold off-topic generalisation about psychology of East-European and Slovak people.

 
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And he ignores about 90% of the serious questions put to him.


The latest question - if some dogs races could interbreed and if they  represent ongoing speciation I answered at Frontloading thread. Check it again yourselves.

Look, VMartin, you ignomious twit, I thought we had sorted this out between us when you (for once) came slinking back, tail between legs, to explain that you had not threatened me, and I told you that I was somewhat of a kidder. Now, that was a nice gesture that you made - don't spoil it. Remember, you said that if you could you would run away from my kisses, so if you keep talking about me I'm going to ask you to put your lips to some better use! ;)

(I know you hadn't threatened me, but I decided to play it up, because I wanted you too gone, and you're both so easy to manipulate, and you fell for it! And thanks, I think I'm "more than a little hysterical," too. I think I'm perfectly hysterical. Hahahaha, I slay me sometimes.)

I merely took this occassion to ban you and that ladykiller from my blog. (And before you become all worked up again - but I understand you, you're a hypercomplaintiac - "ladykiller" does not mean a killer of ladies. Anyway I slay me first.) Your behavior and his at my place was perfectly disgraceful. As for JAD, he doesn't want kindness, so ultimately he got what he wanted - bannation, and so did you.

So be careful, because if you spend too much time talking about me you might come to a bad end like me. Heh. PZ's nevah gonna ban me, brothah! Who do you think introduced him to the crowd at the meeting of the Minnesota Atheists today? :D

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2007,21:19   

Kristine, do you have a link for when Nietzsche and Nabokov got banned from Pharyngula?

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: July 22 2007,21:42   

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ July 22 2007,20:19)
Kristine, do you have a link for when Nietzsche and Nabokov got banned from Pharyngula?

I can't find a thing. ;) But I turned up this charming post. Sorry, VM. Looks like Nabokov was never banned after all! :D

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

"Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2007,00:00   

Kristine....erm..... leaping librarians a spelling mistake!! ignominious.....runs and hides.

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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2007,10:26   

Quote (k.e @ July 22 2007,23:00)
Kristine....erm..... leaping librarians a spelling mistake!! ignominious.....runs and hides.

Yes, and "too" instead of "two." :)

k.e. don't you ever run from me! Whither thou blowest, I shall blow - should I stay or should I go - "Oh, why is everything still my duty? when shall I be free from your fuss? Was he in the cave and were you in the cave and on and on . . . and Unto us a Son is born, unto us a Child is given . . . and am I good and is he bad and are we saved . . . and ending everything the echo"!

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Which came first: the shimmy, or the hip?

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"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2007,21:15   

Okay, so no one is into E. M. Forster.  :angry:

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"I happen to think that this prerequisite criterion of empirical evidence is itself not empirical." - Clive

"Damn you. This means a trip to the library. Again." -- fnxtr

  
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: July 23 2007,23:22   

E.M. Forster? No.

Howabout teh BBC's Vogon poetry generator?

See, see the shimytastic sky
Marvel at its big puce depths.
Tell me, Kristine do you
Wonder why the tasmanian devil ignores you?
Why its foobly stare
makes you feel groggy.
I can tell you, it is
Worried by your spog facial growth
That looks like
A carrot.
What's more, it knows
Your fok potting shed
Smells of pea.
Everything under the big shimytastic sky
Asks why, why do you even bother?
You only charm undiess.


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The conservative has but little to fear from the man whose reason is the servant of his passions, but let him beware of him in whom reason has become the greatest and most terrible of the passions.These are the wreckers of outworn empires and civilisations, doubters, disintegrators, deicides.Haldane

   
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(Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,06:20   

Quote (Kristine @ July 23 2007,22:15)
Okay, so no one is into E. M. Forster.  :angry:

Oooo!  Me, me!  Call on me!  "A Passage to India."


Mrs. Moore!

Mrs. Moore!

Mrs. Moore!

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

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Joe G



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(Permalink) Posted: July 24 2007,09:38   

Quote (Occam's Aftershave @ July 24 2007,09:36)
Joe, do you still tell people you're a qualified scientist because your degree says "Bachelor of Science, Engineering Technology"?

:D  :D  :D

I never have told anyone I am a scientist because of my degree.

But thanks for once again demonstrating that you are a dishonest imbecile.

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"Genetic mutations aren't mistakes"-ID and Timothy Horton

Whales do not have tails. Water turns to ice via a molecular code-  Acartia bogart, TARD

YEC is more coherent than materialism and it's bastard child, evolutionism

   
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