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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2017,08:30   

NURSE!!!!! Gary's back on teh net.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2017,09:17   

He looks for things. To make him go.



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(Permalink) Posted: June 16 2017,20:52   

Make it so?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 21 2017,23:59   

In a second (of two) neuroscience forums I found someone who described the neural "dimensions" in a way that relates to dimensioning an array in code, as I now do:

www.reddit.com/r/neuro/comments/6gs3ut/wow_blue_brain_team_discovers_a_multidimensional/dj1fucj/

The new information led back to simply dimensioning arrays. Meanwhile I spent days going through dozens of saved copies of the ID Lab 6. Then I went back to work on one that did exceptionally well avoiding the shock zone.

A week later I'm getting the right numbers and the missing signal detail now on its own fills in on the second half of the 2 step propagation cycle! In the newest version the program shows the network twice, where the added detail that completes the map comes right after a sort of outlining of the avoid areas. It also has the least code of them all.

Preliminary code, written in VB6, with the now obligatory TheoryOfIntelligentDesign.pdf in Notes folder:
sites.google.com/site/intelligencedesignlab/home/IDLab6-1.zip

I was previously in the process of making a video but noticed the numbers did not very match the neuroscience predicted 57%-58% signal to another. Then the missing signal detail became noticable in its behavior. I just had to fix that.

Solving the problem took longer than I thought but this is much better than what I had hoped for. What can next be added is what our major brain areas provide. Fortunately this model only needs to show what's possible from this starting point alone, and after a little more cleaning up of the code it will more than deserve making a video for.


sites.google.com/site/intelligencedesignlab/home/IDLab6-1Screen.png

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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2017,11:04   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ June 21 2017,21:59)
I was previously in the process of making a video but noticed the numbers did not very match the neuroscience predicted 57%-58% signal to another.

That noise you're hearing is the English language screaming in agony.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2017,19:40   

Quote (GaryGaulin @ June 21 2017,23:59)
2 step propagation cycle!

https://www.beeradvocate.com/communi.....308940

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 22 2017,23:01   

To make up for another late-night typo (caused by my human brain being good at automatically filling in missing words) and clammy grammar here's a more awake version:

www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/spatial-reasoning-system-is-now-complete-extremely-lifelike-behavior

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(Permalink) Posted: June 23 2017,01:06   

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To make up for another late-night typo (caused by my human brain being good at automatically filling in missing words) and clammy grammar here's a more awake version:

www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/spatial-reasoning-system-is-now-complete-extremely-lifelike-behavior


To use an Anglicism "Bollocks!"

There is nothing even vaguely resembling "lifelike" behaviour in your rubbish.

Stop wasting your time and get some help with your obsessions.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2017,03:11   

I now have a YouTube video for the ID-Lab 6.1 critter!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIvjax0_lLE

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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2017,09:54   

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I now have a YouTube video for the ID-Lab 6.1 critter!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIvjax0_lLE


Very pretty, but do you do it in any other colour than cerise? That really is my least favourite colour.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2017,20:26   

cerisely?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 25 2017,23:38   

The color coordination was inspired by U2:

U2 - Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUD4CQT33w4

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2017,00:33   

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Posted on June 25 2017,23:38
The color coordination was inspired by U2:


Ah, Bono, the Edge and the other two. Pretentious much.

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cerisely?


Redily.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2017,07:25   

OffColor = &HFF00FF

&HFF00FF = RGB(225, 0, 225)

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(Permalink) Posted: June 26 2017,07:27   

Or more precisely:

&HFF00FF = RGB(255, 0, 255)

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(Permalink) Posted: June 27 2017,23:22   

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Axel seems like a man at war with himself:
   
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Rancorous, truculent non-believers feel besieged by the truth, I suspect and have developed a hate-filled siege mentality, and don’t bitterly resent the intrusion of ‘inconvenient’ truths ; and particularly not the one that underpins all the others, and would turn their lives around through 180 degrees. And very akin to that is a failure to appreciate spiritual, moral beauty as sovereign, and ultimately to reject it.

They have my sympathy. Well, to a certain rather limited extent, admittedly. The other day, I mentally yelled at God at the top of my voice and shook both my fists at him, since, as I was saying one set of prayer, I felt him urging me to interrupt them for a more urgent one, and that on top of something else that was troubling me at the back of my mind – which I can’t remember. Fortunately, God does seem to cut me a lot of slack on occasions.

Sometimes I think Job might not have had it so bad – then I remember that he lost all his children, all so dear to him ; and above all, Job is held to be a figure of Christ himself, whose sufferings we can scarcely begin to imagine.
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After seeing this shaking of fists at God stuff I had to start a new thread for neurological evidence to explain who they are in their mind actually talking back and forth to:

www.reddit.com/r/neuroscience/comments/6jxzfl/does_hemisphere_to_hemisphere_crosstalk_cause/

Katy Perry has been talking about God speaking to her too. Apparently many millions of people are 24/7 at the same time talking to the same (or different) God, or so they believe. I do not (from a mental health perspective) see that as a good thing. Being reasonable requires using that for weighing of evidence type objective reason, the inherent "scientific method" we were born with.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2017,04:17   

The neuroscience forum discussion more or less ended after I found this, by googling keywords I found in a useful reply:  

www.goodtherapy.org/blog/dual-brain-psychology/
   
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Empirical evidence indicates that when an individual is in therapy for emotional distress, learning about a two brain system of perception can help provide relief and reassurance. Schiffer reports statistically significant success with the patients who learn about this physiological dichotomy. He has even worked with clients who have found relief from psychotic episodes, as well as severe obsessive compulsive disorder and bipolar.

There are several ways that psychological distress is alleviated with individuals who engage in duel-brain psychotherapy session work. First of all, they stop thinking they’re crazy, or that there is something very wrong with them. It makes sense, this internal conflict. So understanding the mechanism of a dual brain protective function is the first step. Another step in the process of healing is to begin to identify the feelings of unease, feelings that something is wrong. Sometimes those feelings can be identified as triggers. Once an individual identifies the feeling or feelings they can begin a process of identifying when the feeling or feelings first appeared. What event or environment precipitated those feelings? What happened? How was it resolved? Or, was it ever resolved? Then they can learn new ways to think about them, new ways to comfort them, new ways to let them feel heard.

Dual Brain Therapy holds that each hemisphere of the brain exists as a specific, overt personality and that when this system becomes unbalanced and the struggle for dominance and control escalates, it creates psychological distress. When the knowledge of hemispherically based intrapsychic differences is applied in clinical practice, it enables an individual to help his emotionally healthier side convince the more troubled side to stop exerting such fear driven thoughts that create unwanted behaviors and unbalanced states of mind. Also, significantly, it helps remove a lot of the counterproductive guilt associated with internal conflict.

In any case, this theory makes a lot of sense. When we don’t know why we do or say or think or feel the way we do, this just might be the reason for it. And, understanding it, paying attention to it and developing a more balanced way of solving the things that puzzle us, may be a very good way to get better. Dr. Fredric Schiffer certainly knows that it has helped his patients. And, so do I.


Multiple areas of science are arriving at the same conclusion. We have two brains in our head, not one. In regards to science education it's an easy concept to make sense of, perhaps at the preschool level. And apparently one side or the other may for control reasons enjoy being taken as the "word of God" by the other. Combined result may very well be the "delusions of grandeur" that can make a person feel godlike and where given the power has out of paranoia already thrown many to their deaths in dungeons.

Teaching that the other "voice" in our mind is God talking to us is clearly asking for serious mental health problems. By psychology standards that often condoned practice qualifies as a form of "malpractice". Now there is a fist waving regular at Barry's forum who actually is at war with themselves and needs to get to know this Dr. Fredric Schiffer, instead of being further enraged by the Discovery Institute associated enablers.

Since I have long thought like Fredric in regards to who I'm conversing with the difference it makes in at least my science work might best be shown by this (thanks for reminder) example worth mentioning:

www.antievolution.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=14;t=6647;st=9690#entry256395    
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Over seven years, Joe, and you still can't come up with anything new, but have to plagiarize yourself? You lazy schmuck, at least Gary G keeps cranking out new stuff. Put down the toasters and pick up the crayons, kid!

For anyone who doesn't know, I am referring to Joe's reissuing of a 2009 pile of crap from his blog as an original post at TSZ. Sad, yes, but not worthy of pity:

Same old same old


The newest stuff is now in the works in several threads after the "My replies to topics are not appearing" topic:

www.kurzweilai.net/forums/profile/gary-s-gaulin

There is ID theory "intelligence" related work galore.  Every week something else is in the news that further gets us to where we want to go, in science. Meanwhile the Discovery Institute and others are at war with even mainstream religion. It can be seen in what Barry and others condone, which can easily get out of hand and already involved many in "God told me to" crimes committed as a result of what was preached to someone who needed a qualified psychologist or else people around them will die.

From having studied what happens when things go wrong I felt the need to explain what I saw in what Axel wrote in Barry's forum. From a cognitive science perspective it sets a bad example to not explain why it's normal to carry on a two brained conversation. Those who see it as special ability are simply not aware of the science on that. The article indicates knowing just this is later helpful in life. It's something else very basic to easily teach on, in science classrooms.

In martial arts type conditioning there is already a tapping into the two sides of our being type message that makes sense from what I have. And they have been experimenting with this inherent duality for how long now?

We locally have a somewhat active program of this sort for kids. I certainly rather have something both complimentary and complementary from science to say that has a way of helping them along. They and others need and deserve theory that's about movement and self-control, not demonification from a now fringe religious group that more or less teaches the opposite.

It's good to know what such a scientific theory would actually end up saying, where its promoters had actually followed the scientific evidence to wherever it leads in regards to what makes living things like us intelligent. Barry would have jumped in with what was learned after consulting neuroscientists then psychology and the ID Lab computer model where in the two hemisphere/lobe versions one dominates a little over the other instead of expected exactly matching chart lines. This might be caused by specializing in two different ways of perceiving the same thing works better than not, encourages the hemispheres to fully develop one or the other possibility instead of fully developing neither. It's again not something that needs to be programmed into the model. It's something that on its own self-organizes out where (unlike where the chart lines were always perfectly identical) there is something unusual to explain, kinda related to what Axel said.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2017,13:20   

Barry seems to have posted an example of how they consult neuroscientists, quote mining someone and something that does not necessarily agree with the teachings of UD and the Discovery Institute:

What Thomas Aquinas Can Teach Modern Neuroscientists
June 29, 2017 Posted by Barry Arrington under Intelligent Design

uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/88328/

I emailed Michael Egnor to let him know what's going on. In this case it's like Barry is off to set neuroscientists straight with a statement that can easily be taken out of context, to make it appear that the author supports the tactics of the Discovery Institute and UD.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 29 2017,14:30   

I just went over the article, and can add:

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Relatedly, Penfield observed that spontaneous electrical discharges in the brain cause involuntary sensations and movements and even emotions, but never abstract reasoning or calculation. There are no “calculus” seizures or “moral” seizures, in which patients involuntarily take second derivatives or ponder mercy.


The above is expected, from a vector mapped movement based system.

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Similar observations emerge from Roger Sperry’s famous studies of patients who had undergone surgery to disconnect the hemispheres of the brain. This was done to prevent seizures. The post-operative patients experienced peculiar perceptual and behavioral changes, but they retained unity of personal identity—a unified intellect and will. The changes Sperry discovered in his research (for which he won a Nobel Prize) were so subtle as to pass unnoticed in everyday life.


It is not normal for one hand to keep trying to light a cigarette while the other hand keeps throwing it away. That and other examples of the known side effects of corpus callosotomy surgery indicates that the patients did not fully retain their "unity".

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In the past decade, British researcher Adrian Owen has found using fMRI imaging that some patients with such severe brain damage that they are considered to be in a persistent vegetative state are actually capable of sophisticated thought. The “comatose” patients’ brain scans show that, in reply to questions by an examiner, the patients are in fact thinking and imagining.


The above is also expected, from what at least I have for a model. The important part needed for imagination is at the end of the brain stem, not all the optional add-ons that surround it.

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(Permalink) Posted: June 30 2017,22:36   

The Reddit Neuroscience forum discussion led to my finding a couple of rather shocking videos where one outlines "Roger Sperry’s famous studies of patients" who ended up with alien hand syndrome and other life changing side effects that are not at all as Egnor claims "so subtle as to pass unnoticed in everyday life":

www.reddit.com/r/neuroscience/comments/6jxzfl/does_hemisphere_to_hemisphere_crosstalk_cause/djkihc8/

And Comment 3 makes it obvious that Egnor is already well known for misrepresenting neuroscience and neuroscientists:

uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/88328/#comment-634832

All the evidence together indicates the hemisphere containing the primary language center is normally dominant over the other somewhat ruthless hemisphere that instead makes emotion based actions. It makes sense that ruthlessness on the scale of self-centered anger leading to killing instead of discussing things with people by mastermining a flood that kills almost all living things on this planet can through acting out of emotion seem justified, when in reality it's barbaric regardless of who would attempt such a thing. Thankfully the story of Noah is now known to be one of many from all continents dated to a sudden large rise in sea level following the ending of the last ice age (from meltwater breaking through a natural barrier holding it back).

The symbolically represented memory that was handed down does have scientific value as another piece of evidence for a real event, but it's not supposed to be taken literally. Ken Ham and others appeal to the side of the brain that does not necessarily care what makes logical sense and produces emotional distress or pleasure, as was demonstrated in the video that shows the suddenly embarrassed giggling woman who saw a naked picture through her eye to that side of her brain but did not know why she was suddenly feeling that way.

I must also mention that Yoga and some similar meditations may somehow be another example of keeping a two minded system in balance. Since I never found it easy to sit still for so long it's something I have very little personal experience in, but I do know that it's about maintaining a balanced mind and body in harmony with the world. Scientific information on the long sensed other side of us can in that case be helpful, positive.

There was certainly way more vital information than I thought there would be on hemisphere to hemisphere cross-talk. Barry and Egnor can be expected to have a hard time brushing all that off after so boldly suggesting that neuroscientists have no such answers.

Instead of showing what the research discovered, like I did in the neuroscience forum, they made it appear there was nothing to show.  What I found was more than enough to model from, for ID Labs. It's something I and others need to know to be confident the critter is actually working like the real thing would.

Barry and others stirred up another bee hive. In this case though it's like UD has accidentally led to a way to better understand the reasons for their emotion fueled war against almost all in science, now neuroscientists. There has long been a pattern of believing to be qualified to set a whole field of science straight, followed by emotional responses to expected criticism that rely on words like "materialist" to in turn invoke an emotional response in readers. This deserves further study.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 02 2017,07:45   

I summed up the above notes and links into something for your Sunday reading that links to what Barry said:

www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/two-hemispheres-two-separate-minds-not-one

A challenge like this seems just right to feature in a forum for futurists who have been awaiting something like that to be scientifically revealed. If such a fMRI study were to reliably conclude that Barry is right then they would right away need to try tapping into that too. What matters is the evidence from 21'st century technology that now has enough resolution to fairly well read what a mind is thinking, including whether the person is lying or not. All of this only helps Barry's side get treated fairly, by a gizmo that does not care what neuroscientists believe either just shows the data.

Also, I finished optimizing the primary spatial network code for the ID Lab 6.1 and found that it simplified the (at one point OR'ed together) array structure to include Boundary/Border locations that are always in a do nothing state. After bumping into the wall enough times to have sensed it is fully contained inside everything beyond it suddenly stops propagating, turns a solid magenta color. Sort of disregards all that exists outside of its immediate environment, is no longer distracted through areas it does not yet know have a boundary between them. The array was already there as an avoid like a shock, but bumping into a wall that goes no further and stepping into the middle of somewhere that does were found to be better represented by two levels of signal blocking power. It makes sense that the critter does best when solid walls fully block signal propagation.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 03 2017,02:25   

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Also, I finished optimizing the primary spatial network code for the ID Lab 6.1 and found that it simplified the (at one point OR'ed together) array structure to include Boundary/Border locations that are always in a do nothing state. After bumping into the wall enough times to have sensed it is fully contained inside everything beyond it suddenly stops propagating, turns a solid magenta color. Sort of disregards all that exists outside of its immediate environment, is no longer distracted through areas it does not yet know have a boundary between them. The array was already there as an avoid like a shock, but bumping into a wall that goes no further and stepping into the middle of somewhere that does were found to be better represented by two levels of signal blocking power. It makes sense that the critter does best when solid walls fully block signal propagation.


Just more irrelevant mumbo-jumbo from a totally irrelevant IDiot.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2017,15:45   

News at UD indicates that the Discovery Institute gang is proud of their role disseminating false information to help radicalize Turkey:

https://uncommondescent.com/intelli....rwinism

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(Permalink) Posted: July 09 2017,16:45   

This one is for JKrebs and others here who likely don't mind my making Kansas public school educators look good again:

www.kurzweilai.net/forums/topic/most-avid-believers-in-ai-are-aggressively-secular-yet-eerily-religious#post-804328

Unintended consequences have the enabelers on the spot real bad, this time. But for the US the News news at least has a bright note to it:

sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/07/scientists-say-sloppy-science-more.html?showComment=1499379526244#c7932750181881841752

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(Permalink) Posted: July 11 2017,20:20   

Last call for philosophical evidence for science needing philosophers:

sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/07/another-contribution-of-philosophy.html?showComment=1499662950424#c1400136184895014740

Soon after posting it almost two days ago Sandwalk went quiet, challenge stayed on top of the reply list just waiting for a response. Then after a quick spurt I had to write another reply to explain more detail about the seriousness of the situation. Earlier I explained how the DI funding goes one place to the next to the Blyth Institute that helps publish Salvador's thoughts as well, to academia.

As long as philosophy is kept completely out of the science and science classrooms their philosophical discussions are not a problem. But epistemology now contains academia approved looking justification for science teachers to teach any religious belief they have as though it has been proven to be a scientific fact.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 12 2017,09:57   

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Last call for philosophical evidence for science needing philosophers:

sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/07/another-contribution-of-philosophy.html?showComment=1499662950424#c1400136184895014740

Soon after posting it almost two days ago Sandwalk went quiet, challenge stayed on top of the reply list just waiting for a response. Then after a quick spurt I had to write another reply to explain more detail about the seriousness of the situation. Earlier I explained how the DI funding goes one place to the next to the Blyth Institute that helps publish Salvador's thoughts as well, to academia.

As long as philosophy is kept completely out of the science and science classrooms their philosophical discussions are not a problem. But epistemology now contains academia approved looking justification for science teachers to teach any religious belief they have as though it has been proven to be a scientific fact.

You might try reposting that in comprehensible English, then we can figure out whether you have anything useful to add to the conversation.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 12 2017,15:39   

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then we can figure out whether you have anything useful to add to the conversation.

What conversation? I'm all ears.

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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2017,11:59   

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then we can figure out whether you have anything useful to add to the conversation.

What conversation?

The one you have been trying to engage in with other people, about your ideas.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2017,06:34   

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then we can figure out whether you have anything useful to add to the conversation.

What conversation?

The one you have been trying to engage in with other people, about your ideas.

In case you don't know about this one yet:

www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceDiscussion/comments/6mv8ig/is_philosophy_especially_epistemology/dk5ngll/

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(Permalink) Posted: July 15 2017,11:39   

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What conversation? I'm all ears.


You know, where you have an idea and make up a long screed about it and make a totally irrelevant computer programme of a supposed bug.

Then when we ask pertinent questions about your pseudoscience you run away or double down. Or post stupid music videos or link to your rubbish comments on other sites.

If you want a conversation answer the many unanswered questions you have avoided so far.

I won't hold my breath...

  
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