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damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,04:46   

Quote (Woodbine @ Oct. 07 2011,17:50)
Is there any way to extract Febble from UD? Does anyone have her ear?

Reason I ask is that looking at the front page it's become obvious that UD is increasingly spamming their site with absolutely anything they can in order to appear relevant; the "illusion of affairs" to steal a phrase from Conrad.

Most of these 'articles' attract zero comments, the only ones that seem to do so are the ones in which Febble engages the Tard. If she would only let them be we could watch UD sink further into obscurity.

We've seen what happens when the inmates have no one to condescend to; they start eating their own. Febble (and socks) are interfering with nature's course in not letting UD consume itself and die.

I know it's tempting. And as much as i've enjoyed this monument to tard over the years I'd really like to watch UD wither and die.

Just me?

Trouble is, Febble has a) a sense of humour; and b) the courage of her convictions, which have not been lightly arrived at.

I think she also enjoys puncturing pretension and inflated egos, both of which abound at UD

However, given another forum where she could express and discuss all those things WITHOUT being constantly accused of lying and intellectual dishonesty (such accusations being blatantly false) and from which kairos-fucking-focus and Chicken Joe were absent, she may well shake the dust of UD from her feet.

Her own blog -"The Skeptical Zone" - has housed some interesting discussions (a bit rarefied for me, but then I'm a lout). A few denizens of UD have been seen there, like William Murray, but I don't think any of the sillier ones have contributed- apart from Chris Doyle, who for some unrevealed reason managed to delete a thread he had started, and all its comments.

Which was kinda weird

But we all know that UDers are shit-scared of commenting anywhere that they're not protected from derision or effective argument by biased moderation and rent-a-mob sycophants

  
Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,08:15   

Quote (Woodbine @ Oct. 07 2011,12:50)
Is there any way to extract Febble from UD? Does anyone have her ear?

Reason I ask is that looking at the front page it's become obvious that UD is increasingly spamming their site with absolutely anything they can in order to appear relevant; the "illusion of affairs" to steal a phrase from Conrad.

Most of these 'articles' attract zero comments, the only ones that seem to do so are the ones in which Febble engages the Tard. If she would only let them be we could watch UD sink further into obscurity.

We've seen what happens when the inmates have no one to condescend to; they start eating their own. Febble (and socks) are interfering with nature's course in not letting UD consume itself and die.

I know it's tempting. And as much as i've enjoyed this monument to tard over the years I'd really like to watch UD wither and die.

Just me?

As Damitall suggests, you could visit her blog and present your argument. I am sure "Intelligent Design" is brain dead and UD is only lending life-support till the family finally agree to turn the machine off. I have changed my mind on boycotting websites now, having seen the way they can wither away when there are insufficient contributions to maintain interest and the site then implodes.I doubt whether Lizzie commenting or withholding comments will make much difference.

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,09:04   

I knew I'd heard of Pacific Western University somewhere!

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"People are always looking for natural selection to generate random mutations" - Densye  4-4-2011
JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,09:53   

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Eugene S October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am
Elizabeth,

This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.


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Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,09:59   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 08 2011,09:04)
I knew I'd heard of Pacific Western University somewhere!

I forget, was this one of the Irish Government IDiots who recently gave bad advice on some science issue?

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"Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV

"The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen

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noncarborundum



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,10:13   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 08 2011,09:53)
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Eugene S October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am
Elizabeth,

This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.

Yes, Adam and Eve were Two Absolutely Real Denizens of the garden.

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"The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

  
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,11:58   

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I'd really like to watch UD wither and die.


Speaking for myself, I have no formal training in biology, but I have a hobbyist interest (and a political interest in what's taught in schools).

I find the endless argument educational, and I have no doubt that the political fight would continue without UD.

UD is a constant source of raw material for the next Dover.

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fnxtr



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,12:20   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 08 2011,07:04)
I knew I'd heard of Pacific Western University somewhere!

"Con Power" indeed.

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"[A] book said there were 5 trillion witnesses. Who am I supposed to believe, 5 trillion witnesses or you? That shit's, like, ironclad. " -- stevestory

"Wow, you must be retarded. I said that CO2 does not trap heat. If it did then it would not cool down at night."  Joe G

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,13:19   

Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 08 2011,10:53)
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Eugene S October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am
Elizabeth,

This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.

I think that Lizzie may have been too nice in response, actually apologizing to Eugene.

I'd like to see his evidence for an historical Adam and Eve.

  
damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,14:10   

Quote (noncarborundum @ Oct. 08 2011,10:13)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 08 2011,09:53)
Quote
Eugene S October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am
Elizabeth,

This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.

Yes, Adam and Eve were Two Absolutely Real Denizens of the garden.

If there's one thing these twats lead the world at, it's taking offence.

Permanent spluttering indignation is their ground-state.

  
Dr.GH



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,15:09   

There was the "Pacific College of Graduate Studies, Australia" that sold Carl Baugh a doctorate. There was a "Columbia Pacific University." And, Pacific Western University (Hawaii), and, Pacific Western University (California). The latter is now called "California Miramar University." They are all unaccredited, and have sold degrees to various creationists.

(I must have been wrong about the Art Institute- they (I suppose) bought some other failing "institute" or "university").

Edited by Dr.GH on Oct. 08 2011,13:11

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,15:11   

Quote (noncarborundum @ Oct. 08 2011,16:13)
Quote (midwifetoad @ Oct. 08 2011,09:53)
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Eugene S October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am
Elizabeth,

This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.

Yes, Adam and Eve were Two Absolutely Real Denizens of the garden.

POTW!

Good work, you win one internet and a copy of the Trollolol song.

Enjoy!

Louis

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Bye.

  
noncarborundum



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 08 2011,16:49   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 08 2011,15:11)
 you win . . . a copy of the Trollolol song.

Enjoy!

Louis

I hereby resign in favor of the first runner-up.

If you can call that a favor.

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"The . . . um . . . okay, I was genetically selected for blue eyes.  I know there are brown eyes, because I've observed them, but I can't do it.  Okay?  So . . . um . . . coz that's real genetic selection, not the nonsense Giberson and the others are talking about." - DO'L

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2011,07:08   

Utterly shameless....

  
Tracy P. Hamilton



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2011,08:26   

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What if the mind is the TV station and the brain is the set?


New book idea: "The Spiritual TV Station"

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"Following what I just wrote about fitness, you’re taking refuge in what we see in the world."  PaV

"The simple equation F = MA leads to the concept of four-dimensional space." GilDodgen

"We have no brain, I don't, for thinking." Robert Byers

  
Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2011,12:11   

Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 09 2011,14:26)
 
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What if the mind is the TV station and the brain is the set?


New book idea: "The Spiritual TV Station"

Some people are clearly only receiving the test card.



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JoeG BTW dumbass- some variations help ensure reproductive fitness so they cannot be random wrt it.

   
CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 09 2011,23:46   

Quote (Woodbine @ Oct. 09 2011,07:08)
Utterly shameless....

Denyse explained:  
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One interesting thing that Beauregard mentions within The Spiritual Brain is that perhaps the mind itself is healthy – but trapped within a malfunctioning brain. It’s interesting because I hadn’t considered that possibility, but more on that later.
Nothing wrong with her mind, it's her brain that's malfunctioning.

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,02:30   

They've stopped pretending now.

"Science is dominated by celebrity poseurs, social engineers, and hucksters."

Tard

EDIT: Thanks Quack!

  
Quack



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,03:39   

Quote (Woodbine @ Oct. 10 2011,02:30)
They've stopped pretending now.

"Science is dominated by celebrity poseurs, social engineers, and hucksters."

[URL=http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/few-opponents-will-debate-atheist-neuroscientist-raymond-tallis-who-is-tired-of-neurotrash






/]Tard[/URL]

I get only      
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The page you are looking for is not here

However, choosing the search option with "Tard", I got loads of it! How appropriate, assuming the headlines represent a cross-section of ID...

ETA: working link - if you really want it.

ETA1: May this be what has upset them?

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k.e..



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,06:15   

Quote (Amadan @ Oct. 09 2011,20:11)
Quote (Tracy P. Hamilton @ Oct. 09 2011,14:26)
 
Quote
What if the mind is the TV station and the brain is the set?


New book idea: "The Spiritual TV Station"

Some people are clearly only receiving the test card.


POTW

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,06:50   

Classic BatShit 77:

"Nick Matzke, not to step in between you and Jonathan’s discussion, but ..."

Followed by 2,636 words in three separate messages, none of which have anything at all to do with junk DNA, which is what Jonathan M and Nick were attempting to discuss.

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,08:55   

I think it's cute how BatShit77 seals his argument with a Bible verse.

Game, set and match!

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,11:59   

Quote (Doc Bill @ Oct. 10 2011,14:55)
I think it's cute how BatShit77 seals his argument with a Bible verse.

Game, set and match!

Science: All so far?

Louis

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Bye.

  
damitall



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,14:42   

I wonder how many people actually READ BatShit77's posts and follow all the links. I kicked the habit after the first couple I encountered- took no willpower at all.

I recommend this sanity-preserving strategy. (I suspect a good few of his fellow tard-generators have discovered it already)

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,14:58   

Quote (damitall @ Oct. 10 2011,12:42)
I wonder how many people actually READ BatShit77's posts and follow all the links. I kicked the habit after the first couple I encountered- took no willpower at all.

I recommend this sanity-preserving strategy. (I suspect a good few of his fellow tard-generators have discovered it already)

As far as I can tell, batshit has a library of twenty or thirty blocks of tard with associated links, from which he selects a random half-dozen for each post.  After a couple of days, you've seen 'em all.

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Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers

There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,17:08   

Where is the problem, indeed.  
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paragwinnOctober 9, 2011 at 9:32 pm

So then, from where does the mind receive it’s content that is supposedly broadcast to the brain? Is there any evidence that the brain broadcasts back to the mind?
 
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gpuccioOctober 10, 2011 at 4:36 am

paragwinn:

Evidence?

Each sensation is evidence that the brain “broadcasts” tp the mind. And each action is evidence that the mind “broadcasts” to the brain.

I suppose we have known that for millennia. Where is the problem?

And if it looks designed, it  must be designed. Why must people make science so unnecessarily difficult?

bolding mine, according to the broadcast i'm receiving.

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F/Ns to F/Ns to F/Ns etc. The whole thing is F/N ridiculous -Seversky on KF footnote fetish 8-20-11
Sigh. Really Bill? - Barry Arrington

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 10 2011,18:08   

Quote (damitall @ Oct. 10 2011,12:42)
I wonder how many people actually READ BatShit77's posts and follow all the links. I kicked the habit after the first couple I encountered- took no willpower at all.

I recommend this sanity-preserving strategy. (I suspect a good few of his fellow tard-generators have discovered it already)

I read about 3 of them once and without even realizing it until now, it turns out that I have simply scrolled past every one since. It wasn't a conscious decision to ignore him, an internal or subconscious process created an if-then sequence which caused me to simply not parse his text any more.

Kinda weird. There are a few like that actually.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

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CeilingCat



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2011,06:33   

Quote (BWE @ Oct. 10 2011,18:08)
 
Quote (damitall @ Oct. 10 2011,12:42)
I wonder how many people actually READ BatShit77's posts and follow all the links. I kicked the habit after the first couple I encountered- took no willpower at all.

I recommend this sanity-preserving strategy. (I suspect a good few of his fellow tard-generators have discovered it already)

I read about 3 of them once and without even realizing it until now, it turns out that I have simply scrolled past every one since. It wasn't a conscious decision to ignore him, an internal or subconscious process created an if-then sequence which caused me to simply not parse his text any more.

Kinda weird. There are a few like that actually.

KairosFocus for one.

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2011,07:43   

Quote (CeilingCat @ Oct. 11 2011,04:33)
Quote (BWE @ Oct. 10 2011,18:08)
 
Quote (damitall @ Oct. 10 2011,12:42)
I wonder how many people actually READ BatShit77's posts and follow all the links. I kicked the habit after the first couple I encountered- took no willpower at all.

I recommend this sanity-preserving strategy. (I suspect a good few of his fellow tard-generators have discovered it already)

I read about 3 of them once and without even realizing it until now, it turns out that I have simply scrolled past every one since. It wasn't a conscious decision to ignore him, an internal or subconscious process created an if-then sequence which caused me to simply not parse his text any more.

Kinda weird. There are a few like that actually.

KairosFocus for one.

lol. Yeah. I forget the name of the one who dropped out a couple years ago because darwinists were ruining his life by attacking him on forums. He used to say that ID was necessary because it is the only explanation for why religiously inspired prophecy was so accurate/ Or something like that. I simply couldn't make any sense of his words. Actually Denise is also one I don't usually read anymore unless someone quotes her with an interesting snippet I go read the source.

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Who said that ev'ry wish would be heard and answered
When wished on the morning star
Somebody thought of that, and someone believed it
Look what it's done so far

The Daily Wingnut

   
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 11 2011,11:32   

for fucks sake will one of you please tell me which one of you was jerry?

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Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

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I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
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