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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2009,10:49   

Joe makes our  point for us without realising it:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-325286

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Joseph

07/06/2009

9:25 am
Graham,

ID can be falsified by demonstrating that nature, operating freely, can account for everything.

IOW substantiate the claims made by the materialist position.

BTW what contributations have materialism made?


So that that ID is easily falsified, eh. Provide an explanation for everything <> gaps argument, at all.


And that materialism is just rubbish, too. No application in the real world at all.

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"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
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Richardthughes



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2009,10:57   

Slapdown:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-325290

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PaulBurnett

07/06/2009

9:49 am
Joseph (#30) wrote: “ID can be falsified by demonstrating that nature, operating freely, can account for everything.”

and

“BTW what contributations have materialism made?

“Nature, operating freely,” has given us short lifespans, high infant mortality rates, lots of diseases, limited food supplies, etc.

Materialism has given us medicines to increase our lifespan, decrease infant mortality rates, cure diseases, and vastly increased food supplies. Plus technological toys used by some to carp against materialism.


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"Richardthughes, you magnificent bastard, I stand in awe of you..." : Arden Chatfield
"You magnificent bastard! " : Louis
"ATBC poster child", "I have to agree with Rich.." : DaveTard
"I bow to your superior skills" : deadman_932
"...it was Richardthughes making me lie in bed.." : Kristine

  
Lowell



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2009,11:29   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ May 21 2009,18:54)
OK, OK.  

Gotta keep up:

- Say pretty much whatever you want so long it isn't defamatory or profane. And no vicious personal attacks.

- And no history of ridiculing UD elsewhere.

- And no asking questions we can't answer, or answering questions we can't ask.

- And don't be rude.

- And no comments that appear to be intended to confuse or obfuscate, even if it is we who are confused and obdurate.

- And no levity at BarryA's expense.

- And no hurting Gil's widdle feewings.

- And no underscoring the hypocrisy of all this.

- And no commenting that UD has become a political blog.

- And make sure you read the Wedgie of Evolution and conform your comments to same.

- And no cracking wise on moderation at UD.

- Scratch all of the above if you are pro-ID. We won't more than gently reprimand you if you insult others.

- But if you explain that the target of your personal attack was being just plain stupid, then it's OK after all, you can call them stupid.

- Moderators get to call people stupid too.

Stupid.


Where the fuck is DaveTard??

Clive doesn't have to explain himself to you, but rest assured that all deleted comments violate the "normal criteria":
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Clive Hayden

07/06/2009

10:48 am
djmullen,

To be honest, I don’t remember the content exactly. I read a lot of comments, and the normal criteria applies to all of them, so I recollect that it was offensive or vilifying or rude in some manner.

Link

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Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: July 06 2009,11:31   

This might be relevant to banninology (or is it BlogCzaricisms? Banninationalistic studies?).

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Clive Hayden: To be honest, I don’t remember the content exactly. I read a lot of comments, and the normal criteria applies to all of them, so I recollect that it was offensive or vilifying or rude in some manner.

Clive: I don't recall.

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Missed it by less than the time it takes light to travel from Jupiter to the Earth.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: July 13 2009,10:48   

Quote (Hermagoras @ July 13 2009,10:35)
David Kellogg is moderated!    
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Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Upright BiPed, you have provided the second step of the ID two-step proof via OOL.
Step 1. If life cannot be artificially manufactured, life is too complex to have evolved ==> therefore ID.
Step 2. If life can be artificially manufactured, life is created by intelligence ==> therefore ID.

Clive, I challenge you to disclose a reason.

Look. You're provoking Unpleasant Blowhard, whose posts are devoid of content other than an arrogant tone and gratuitous insults. It is Clive's responsibility to police UD and sustain a reasonably positive tone. By addressing UB and eliciting responses from him you are clearly deliberately undermining Clive's moderation efforts. Hence you are now under his watchful spleen.

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"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: July 20 2009,07:16   

To paraphrase: Slight exaggeration = bitterly abusive feeling or expression.

dbthomas

——”If by ‘journalist’ you mean ‘person who mostly just paraphrases articles by other people, many of whom are just paraphrasing articles by yet other persons who are in turn mostly just paraphrasing research papers and adding a side of interview’, then yes: she’s a journalist. And also, I have it on good authority, a respectable grandmother.”

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Clive Hayden
07/19/2009
11:40 pm

Prove your assertion that Denyse mostly paraphrases other paraphrases, or you will be banned. I won’t tolerate this vitriol.

dbthomas substantiated his remark in part (Denyse is a grandmother) yet was banned nonetheless.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
hooligans



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(Permalink) Posted: July 28 2009,15:01   

Silent ban of 90DegreeAngel was recorded for challenging Corny Hunter regarding religious nature of evolution.

  
RDK



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 11 2009,23:32   

http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelli....-329275

My original account recently achieved full bannination for posting on two different accounts, one of which was made after the original was put under unprovoked moderation:



 
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Clive Hayden
08/08/2009
9:03 pm

Ardeekay,

For the sake of continuity, I’m going to delete this account. You can still post under RDK.


Unfortunately, Clivebaby must have forgotten, lied, or both, because minutes later my posts were no longer displayed on the blog, but sent to...

the Phantom Zone.

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deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2009,18:29   

I tried to place the following comment in the  Dembski whine thread (about people finding out that he's giving 20% credit in classes to students who troll "enemy" websites).

It refers to the Barret Brown thread:
   
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This post used to be up at comment 104 of the barrett brown thread:

"Gee, Clive, I realize of course, that you’re merely being mildly provocative — however transparently — but thanks for reassuring me about my concerns regarding impartial moderation and people acting as foils.

I realize that a one-on-one thread devoted ONLY to StephenB and me debating strikes you as an invalid reason to want a change of venues, but given recent events, I’d again beg to differ.

I also notice that StephenB hardly even responded to my criticisms except to ask me a question about who I was referring to in my post.

Yeah, that’s impressive.

So, yes, I will go back to that “sight” that should not exist, Clive. Where Alexa stats outshine other “sights.”

P.S. It’s very clear to any unbiased observer why some people here never appear on any forum other than Uncommon Descent. Thanks for your hospitality while it lasted, Clive!"

It was removed for what reason? Certainly not utter incivility. There's fossilized remnants of the post in KairosFocus' post at 116 in that same thread. But there's no censorship here.


Anyway, it's clear I'm on super-secret mod-ban, but I'm too busy doing some home renovation crap to care.  

As I see it (and due to looking at recent Uncommon Descent Alexa stats) ....the ONLY reason that Clive, baby is putting on this pretense of "openness" and the ONLY reason that Behe was invited to have a "UD Blag"  = because the UD site hits are below even the ratings of some pretty obscure evo/science-based sites as well as relatively modest freethought, atheist, agnostic, or skeptic sites.

They're barely treading water at UD.

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Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 12 2009,22:28   

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Anyway, it's clear I'm on super-secret mod-ban,


Sometimes known as double-secret probation - just ask Dean Wormer! :p

Henry

  
Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2009,13:38   

Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 13 2009,04:28)
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Anyway, it's clear I'm on super-secret mod-ban,


Sometimes known as double-secret probation - just ask Dean Wormer! :p

Henry

I've been told I bear a striking resemblance to Mr Blutarsky:



"Double secret probation" is my favourite kind of probation.

Just apropos of nothing. Of course.

Louis

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 13 2009,14:10   

Quote (Louis @ Aug. 13 2009,13:38)
Quote (Henry J @ Aug. 13 2009,04:28)
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Anyway, it's clear I'm on super-secret mod-ban,


Sometimes known as double-secret probation - just ask Dean Wormer! :p

Henry

I've been told I bear a striking resemblance to Mr Blutarsky:



"Double secret probation" is my favourite kind of probation.

Just apropos of nothing. Of course.

Louis

Louis - I thought I recognized you.  College - Where I spent the best   4 7 years of my life...

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2009,11:13   

Clive Baby articulates a new moderation rule to the most excellent Learned Hand:
 
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I see no grounds whatsoever in considering your anecdotal belief to be authoritative, especially considering that you don’t even know the man. The presumptuousness is really irritating, and I would advise you to stop, I’m serious...As your moderator, I would advise you to stop.

New moderation rule: Don't irritate Clive. Really. He's serious.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2009,12:06   

IOW, don't make him angry, you wouldn't like him when he's angry? :O

  
sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 25 2009,16:49   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Aug. 25 2009,09:13)
Clive Baby articulates a new moderation rule to the most excellent Learned Hand:
     
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I see no grounds whatsoever in considering your anecdotal belief to be authoritative, especially considering that you don’t even know the man. The presumptuousness is really irritating, and I would advise you to stop, I’m serious...As your moderator, I would advise you to stop.

New moderation rule: Don't irritate Clive. Really. He's serious.

Shorter CliveBaby:
LH, your arguments are far too cogent, logical, and convincing for the purposes of this blog, so I am looking for any lame excuse to ban you without appearing too blatantly obvious.
 Just because Dr. Hunter signed a statement declaring his belief that the literal interpretation of Genesis takes precedence over anything scientific, doesn't mean that his religion directs his thinking, so there!
Oh and I'm serious!

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The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time. The terror of their tyranny is alleviated by their lack of consistency. -A. Einstein  (H/T, JAD)
If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

  
J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,09:04   

Dear Onlookers, Scott.David has passed.  

Sadly, his comments have not passed through moderation for the last 2 weeks, so we must assume the worst.  Silent Bannination has taken the quasi-life of another poor sock puppet.  His final blocked post was a plea for BA^77 to muster up the courage to post at his Special Creation thread here, but unfortunately, Clivebaby's DeathPanel pulled the plug on the post.

Requiescat in pace.

In lieu of flowers, Scot.David requests you have a cold one and think of him, and for all you Brits and other furiners, a warm, room temperature Guinness.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
KCdgw



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,10:29   

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Dave Wisker:

 
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vjtorly,
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Dave Wisker
I completely agree with your remark in #19 above. Foul language has no place on this Web site, and the author of the offending comments should apologize

Thanks. Actually, bornagain did post a ‘notpology’, essentially blaming the big bad atheists for his behavior, and also informing me that putting up with his rudeness was worth it since he was actually trying to save my soul. I know, pathetic.
He also seems to think he hurt my feelings. Not so. I have been called far worse by far better debaters than him, and had a beer with them afterwards. The fact is, his debating style is shallow, tiresome, selectively-informed and non-engaging. The “love it or leave it” remark finally convinced me he isn’t a serious participant. There are far more serious participants here that are worth engaging.


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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,18:24   

Can I get some credit for being pre-banned?  I tried to unveil a brand new puppet, but Clivebaby won't even let his first comments through.

It's a sad day indeed, having to face up to the fact that my Puppeting Days are now over.  Well, I'll always have the memories of GLarson calling out BA^77 for not loving Jesus enough, UD will always have a lot of Jack Inhoffe and Denyse will always admire my Hugh Jass.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,18:32   

Gotta use a better proxy or something, J-Dog?

There's also progs for that sort of thing, if you didn't already know

(apologies if you did -- it's been a long day here, and I'm about ready to fall out completely)

Ah, Jack Inhoffe and Hugh Jass. Memories.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,18:56   

Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 26 2009,18:32)
Gotta use a better proxy or something, J-Dog?

There's also progs for that sort of thing, if you didn't already know

(apologies if you did -- it's been a long day here, and I'm about ready to fall out completely)

Ah, Jack Inhoffe and Hugh Jass. Memories.

Deadman - Thanks, I needed that.

And if I recall the story correctly, I have to wait for a couple days in the tomb before I get a couple of angels like Maya and Khan to get me reved up and ready to go, right?

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,21:00   

Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 26 2009,19:24)
Can I get some credit for being pre-banned?  I tried to unveil a brand new puppet, but Clivebaby won't even let his first comments through.

It's a sad day indeed, having to face up to the fact that my Puppeting Days are now over.  Well, I'll always have the memories of GLarson calling out BA^77 for not loving Jesus enough, UD will always have a lot of Jack Inhoffe and Denyse will always admire my Hugh Jass.



shit that was supposed to be a PM!

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You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat

I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

  
Henry J



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,21:34   

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It's a sad day indeed, having to face up to the fact that my Puppeting Days are now over.


Well, on the bright side - no strings attached.

Henry

  
deadman_932



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(Permalink) Posted: Aug. 26 2009,22:10   

Quote (J-Dog @ Aug. 26 2009,18:56)
Quote (deadman_932 @ Aug. 26 2009,18:32)
Gotta use a better proxy or something, J-Dog?

There's also progs for that sort of thing, if you didn't already know

(apologies if you did -- it's been a long day here, and I'm about ready to fall out completely)

Ah, Jack Inhoffe and Hugh Jass. Memories.

Deadman - Thanks, I needed that.

And if I recall the story correctly, I have to wait for a couple days in the tomb before I get a couple of angels like Maya and Khan to get me reved up and ready to go, right?

Abalootly. We'll be your crowd of witnesses for teh rapturous moment. Then ...

Step Three: profit!
(following Wee Billy D's sterling example)

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 07 2009,07:04   

The banning of Nymphaea caerulea displays the power of the Tard Side:

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Clive Hayden
09/06/2009
10:44 am

Gil is right, Blue Lotus also goes by David v. Squatney. So, Blue, which name would you like to use? To make it easier to follow and for the sake of continuity, just stick with your David v. Squatney handle, and Blue Lotus will now be retired by me.

Gil takes advantage of a tardable moment:

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GilDodgen
09/06/2009
9:04 pm

Detecting trolls involves a relatively simple design inference. They have thematic fingerprints which are immediately obvious; the use of language in certain ways is also consistent and obvious; and they always try to hide their identity by logging on with different names.

Problem is:
   
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Then their design "inference" is incorrect, as I was Blue Lotus and socle I'm guessing is David V.

I did make a post saying as much but as BL has been "retired" by Clive it did not even go into the moderation queue, just vanished.

So much for Clive being "absolutely" certain BL and David V are the same person. They get that wrong even after being absolutely certain, what else are they getting wrong?


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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
dvunkannon



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 10 2009,17:32   

Are we keeping track of pro-ID commenters that Clive,baby has subjected to moderation? I noticed Mapou recently complaining, and I thought BA^77 might be as well.

It was also amusing to see a recent comment wondering why the Timaeus/Allan MacNeil debate had never happened, apparently the poster was unaware that Timaeus had been banned by Scooter for being unable to talk about anything but religion.

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 23 2009,22:36   

My long-lived, most excellent puppet Diffaxial has been silently banninated* at UD, following a mild tweak of StephenB. I'll reconstruct that jibe from memory as best I can:
       
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30 years later, StephenB sits alone on a park bench, clutching his cane:

"And then I said, all things that come to exist have a... uh...uh... a something. A cause! Ha! By cracky Diffaxitive I got you that time. That's what I said! I think that's, I think that's what I said. Heh Heh. I said. Heh. That Diffixative."

:D

Too close to homeless, apparently.

This occurred on the Shrinking Timeline thread.

*A Hidden Obliviation, technically.

ETA: "Diffaxitive" and "Diffixative." I think that's what I said.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 03 2009,21:44   

CliveBaby wants to be a biiiiiig billy goat:

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Clive Hayden
10/03/2009
9:16 pm

Yes, MeganC is a troll. This troll has been removed. MeganC’s purpose here was certainly not to have a useful discussion.

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
Zachriel



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 05 2009,07:33   

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Seversky: Just a brief note to thank those contributors such as Monastyrski, BillB, Learned Hand, Mark Frank, Jordan and Nakashima who have come to my defense.

"I haven't had an orthodox career, and I've wanted more than anything to have your respect. The first time I didn't feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!"

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Mark Frank: I thought you had been banned! Remember to acknowledge the ID supporters (Joseph and to some extent Vjtorley) among your defenders.

Is this the not banned thread?

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Reciprocating Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2009,11:05   

The most excellent Learned Hand informs me that he has been silently banninated at UD.

He asked, "Would you mind posting a quick FYI that Barrys thread is, indeed, a cowards trap?"

Indeed.

(LH was never a sock. He'll be joining us shortly.)

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Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace

"Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down."
- Barry Arrington

  
sledgehammer



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 06 2009,11:56   

Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Oct. 06 2009,09:05)
The most excellent Learned Hand informs me that he has been silently banninated at UD.

He asked, "Would you mind posting a quick FYI that Barrys thread is, indeed, a cowards trap?"

Indeed.

(LH was never a sock. He'll be joining us shortly.)

Cripes, what a bunch of sleazeballs that crew is. They've got the morals of a turnip.
 No doubt it was LH pointing out Barry's contribution to the reputation of his profession.
 Welcome to the swamp, LH.

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If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. ?Think about that. -K. Hovind

  
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