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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,10:36   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 21 2011,15:49)
[SNIP explanation]

Sadly, I can't even tell if I Poed myself.

Hmmm. You raise an interesting point. I was expecting far too much consistency and rigour from Joe.

Still, I want to see the answer. It's like watching a truly gory intellectual trainwreck with bodies flying and claret, gears and sprockets everywhere. I await my imminent gaping drop of jaw and descent into Munch-like "Scream" madness and horror.

Louis

P.S. The temptation to make this post:

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Sadly, I can't even tell if I Pooed myself.


FTFY"

was large. Be impressed I resisted. It's Friday and my defences against puerility are low. They weren't high to start with.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,10:50   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 21 2011,10:49)
Sadly, I can't even tell if I Poed myself.

If you gaze long into the tard, the hard will gaze back into you.

  
Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,10:51   

Quote (Patrick @ Oct. 21 2011,11:50)
Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 21 2011,10:49)
Sadly, I can't even tell if I Poed myself.

If you gaze long into the tard, the hard will gaze back into you.

Hard, tard, Freud, fuckit it's Friday.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,11:15   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 21 2011,09:34)
 
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Elizabeth Liddle makes a simple point to Joseph:
     
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“Races” don’t “do evil” Joseph. People do. People who ascribe evil-doing to a “race” are called “racists”.

The Nazis, for instance.

Joseph then shows his true colors:
     
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Races can do evil, Elizabeth.

This is why free speech is important.  I like my bigots out and proud.

Wow...Joe continues to amaze me with his powers of inanity. Just when I think he can't possibly come up with something more idiotic, he invents some new area of stupid.

Even for Joe this one is just so obviously erroneous as to make me wonder if Joe isn't really a poe. I mean, how can an entire race of people do evil? It's like insisting all business managers can do evil.

Erm, but they do. ;-)


Louis

Ooo...uhh...hmmm...yeah. Bad example. How 'bout all circus people? No...definitely evil. All artists? Gahh...bring the downfall of Western civilization...Cleaning people? Thieves...all of 'em. Italians? Don't get me started...French? I'll leave that alone? The Swiss? Ogres? Cops? Pixies? 70's porn stars? Bankers? Athletes? (sigh)

Damn...maybe Joe was right. ::shudder::

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,11:22   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 21 2011,09:33)
Please, please can you fix it for me for one of the sock puppets over there to ask him which races can do and perhaps have done evil.

Elizabeth tried:

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Races can do evil, Elizabeth.


Which ones, Joseph?


No response from Joey so far though.

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Robin



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,11:41   

Good ol' Christian moral standards:

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Anyway, burning children to death sounds a lot worse than cutting them down with a sword. At least with the sword it was quick. And they (Caanan) would have been doing this for several generations, yes? Sorry, but that's one of those cultures I'm not sorry to see go.


Oh yeah...killing people with swords was always quick.

http://www.classicalfencing.com/article....ody.php

Granted this article deals with rapier wounds, but the principle is still the same. Most people hit by a sword linger for a bit (usually to bleed out or suffocate) and it is not a painless wait. The exception is when someone is executed, but we aren't talking about that in terms of what the Hebrews did to the Canaanites. That was some brutal stuff - waaaay high squick factor that.

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,11:52   

Quote (Robin @ Oct. 21 2011,17:22)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 21 2011,09:33)
Please, please can you fix it for me for one of the sock puppets over there to ask him which races can do and perhaps have done evil.

Elizabeth tried:

 
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Races can do evil, Elizabeth.


Which ones, Joseph?


No response from Joey so far though.

Blessing? Curse? You decide!

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,12:38   

Quote (Robin @ Oct. 21 2011,11:15)
Quote (Louis @ Oct. 21 2011,09:34)
 
Quote (Robin @ Oct. 21 2011,15:16)
   
Quote (Patrick @ Oct. 21 2011,08:14)
Elizabeth Liddle makes a simple point to Joseph:
     
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“Races” don’t “do evil” Joseph. People do. People who ascribe evil-doing to a “race” are called “racists”.

The Nazis, for instance.

Joseph then shows his true colors:
     
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Races can do evil, Elizabeth.

This is why free speech is important.  I like my bigots out and proud.

Wow...Joe continues to amaze me with his powers of inanity. Just when I think he can't possibly come up with something more idiotic, he invents some new area of stupid.

Even for Joe this one is just so obviously erroneous as to make me wonder if Joe isn't really a poe. I mean, how can an entire race of people do evil? It's like insisting all business managers can do evil.

Erm, but they do. ;-)


Louis

Ooo...uhh...hmmm...yeah. Bad example. How 'bout all circus people? No...definitely evil. All artists? Gahh...bring the downfall of Western civilization...Cleaning people? Thieves...all of 'em. Italians? Don't get me started...French? I'll leave that alone? The Swiss? Ogres? Cops? Pixies? 70's porn stars? Bankers? Athletes? (sigh)

Damn...maybe Joe was right. ::shudder::

Hey now!!!!

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 21 2011,22:09   

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Oh yeah...killing people with swords was always quick.


Indeed.  Two things-- One, I don't think folks back then had figured out how to even make crude steel yet.  And even if they had, we're definitely not talking about the  super-strong, super-sharp steel that goes into making, e.g., a quality samurai sword.  So we'd be talking probably bronze, which would undoubtedly be nice and dull after just a few uses, even at the pointy end.

Two, they were committing genocide.  Or from their perspective , cleansing the world of an inherently sinful group of miscreants [eyes rolling furiously and contemptuously].  To the victims, of course, it's a distinction without a difference.  In any event, the perpetrators (in their righteous fury/callous indifference-- again, depending on the perspective) would likely not have cared whether the killings were more or less humane.  I doubt much thought would have been given to how much it might have hurt, or how long it would have taken the victims to die.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,03:01   

Reading the comments on just about any capital crime news story today will reveal that the basic urge for spite in dealing out cruel and unusual punishment is alive and well in the general population. And we at least have a culture where people are aware that there are alternatives. The fact that victims in the (not distant enough) past had to experience quite a lot of agony before expiring was probably considered a bonus. Even in executions one can see that reflected, as in drawing-and-quartering, where simply dispatching the condemned was never the point. Anne Boleyn, having been convicted of treason, would ordinarily have been executed by being burned at the stake, but Henry ordered that she be decapitated instead. The reduction of suffering in execution in Anne Boleyn's case was, unfortunately, the exception and not the rule.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,08:43   

DrBot tells it like it is, proving that Clivebaby is asleep at the ban switch:
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KF, ‘the irresponsible rhetoric of turnabout’ – all you have there is a self proclaimed methodology for conducting debates in which you are allowed to criticize, slander, make claims of moral inferiority and issue accusations of lying and deceit, but your opponents aren’t.

I stand by my claim that you are a hypocrite – in fact, I would argue that it is an empirical observation!

DaveScot would never have let kairosfocus get bitch slapped like that.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,10:13   

Quote (Patrick @ Oct. 22 2011,16:43)
DrBot tells it like it is, proving that Clivebaby is asleep at the ban switch:
 
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KF, ‘the irresponsible rhetoric of turnabout’ – all you have there is a self proclaimed methodology for conducting debates in which you are allowed to criticize, slander, make claims of moral inferiority and issue accusations of lying and deceit, but your opponents aren’t.

I stand by my claim that you are a hypocrite – in fact, I would argue that it is an empirical observation!

DaveScot would never have let kairosfocus get bitch slapped like that.

SLOW DOWN, HOMO!

I THINK I LET A FEW THROUGH ON THAT TWAT IIRC.

SERIOUSLY NOBODY TAKES KF AKA GORDON MULLINGS ...ER SERIOUSLY...

NOT EVEN TEH REGULARS


HE'S LIKE A PROTECTED TARD, ZONED OFF FROM THE PUBLIC FOR HIS OWN ....ER PROTECTION...

dang that's twice now

MY REAL BEEF WAS A CERTAIN Dr. dR. OF SPARE RIB BARBEQUING ON SOME YUPPY SLUM DRIVE OUT OF CORPUS CHRISTI PROMOTING A FUCKING CANADIAN BEAVER MOLESTER.

BILL I STILL LOVE YOU, CALL ME SOMETIME.

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Patrick



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,13:34   

Lewontin!  Only this time, from Elizabeth Liddle.  She takes kairosfocus through the entire review that he so loves to quote mine, explaining the big words to him and refuting him point by point.

Lizzie seems like someone I'd enjoy having a beer with, but in my opinion she is wasting her time with such a thorough fisking.  kairosfocus is willfully ignorant, dishonest, hypocritical, and incapable of admitting error.  There is nothing to be gained from interacting with him.

That last sentence is actually true of all the intelligent design creationists remaining at UD.  They're not even worth making fun of anymore.  Anyone know of a better tard source?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,14:33   

I too wish Elizabeth would leave them alone; but it's not my place to interfere with other people's fun.

As for a better tard source? Well I was going to suggest this little hole of insanity....

Camping Tards

Unfortunately the real crazies have flown the nest and after two non-Raptures the place is suffering a kind of heat death. Still if you cast a few searches back to around May 21st you can find some real doozies.

  
Woodbine



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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,17:25   

Re: previous post, some people just can't let go.....

Dear oh dear....

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BradN, you're ridiculous. and so are your false charity Christian brethren who hypocritically seek only blood.

Again, I do not know why Oct 21 appears to have failed, but my REST and HOPE is still in the Lord.

We are living in very interesting days, the fulfillment of the Bible itself.

The Rapture will occur in only a BLINK of an Eye so God can bring about the Rapture at the very last moment.

I wish I knew why God tarried on Oct 21 but perhaps others are correct that the Rapture will take place tonight, or even tomorrow, Sunday.

But even if nothing happens tonight, or tomorrow, the Lord is still my strength. Everything I learned I still hold to because they are the TRUTH!

Like I said, we are living in very interesting times.

May the Lord's perfect will be done!


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Praise Jehovah my SHIELD and my LORD!

Pr 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

I trust in the WORD OF GOD! The year 2011 is a special year because it is the LAST YEAR!

-7000 years from Noah's Flood!

-1978 years from 33AD. 2x989. Jesus said, I will drink of this cup anew with you. This will occur in the year 2011.

Mt 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.

Mr 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

Lu 22:18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.

-7x7x7x7 years from 391BC

I'm reading the OT and no WONDER God says, FEAR NOT, repeatedly!

Ex 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever.

Isa 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.
8 For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat them like wool: but my righteousness shall be for ever, and my salvation from generation to generation.


This is talking about RIGHT NOW!

Indeed, the unsaved will be eaten up ! But the righteous will live FOREVER MORE!

I will lean upon my LORD AND SAVIOR! JEHOVAH GOD!

Praise the Lord!

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,17:58   

Are they taking into account the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar?

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,20:07   

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Are they taking into account the shift from the Julian to the Gregorian Calendar?

Right about now the only thing they aren't taking into account is their gullibility.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,22:34   

StephenB springs to the defense of....God?
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Since no one has said anything nice about God for a while, I will take up his defense:

Is it just me or is there something faintly ludicrous about the notion of the eternal, all-knowing, all-powerful Creator of the Entire Universe and Everything In It needing to be defended by anyone - let alone StephenB?

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 22 2011,23:55   

You don't even have to read past the title...
   
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Mud-to-Mozart Atheology (Or, Who are the real skeptics?)

...to see that the frilled one is using the Dodgenator 3000 argument A1.
Link.
As ever, though, it doesn't matter so much which variation he uses, each one of his posts is essentially about Gil.
PS - First couple of comments there make it worth a visit, IMO.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,00:09   

Quote (Ptaylor @ Oct. 22 2011,23:55)
You don't even have to read past the title...
   
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Mud-to-Mozart Atheology (Or, Who are the real skeptics?)

...to see that the frilled one is using the Dodgenator 3000 argument A1.
Link.
As ever, though, it doesn't matter so much which variation he uses, each one of his posts is essentially about Gil.
PS - First couple of comments there make it worth a visit, IMO.

UD must be seriously slacking off... three posters who don't agree and they are the first three?

It's unheard of...

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,02:36   

Quote (Patrick @ Oct. 22 2011,13:34)
Lewontin!  Only this time, from Elizabeth Liddle.  She takes kairosfocus through the entire review that he so loves to quote mine, explaining the big words to him and refuting him point by point.

Lizzie seems like someone I'd enjoy having a beer with, but in my opinion she is wasting her time with such a thorough fisking.  kairosfocus is willfully ignorant, dishonest, hypocritical, and incapable of admitting error.  There is nothing to be gained from interacting with him.

That last sentence is actually true of all the intelligent design creationists remaining at UD.  They're not even worth making fun of anymore.  Anyone know of a better tard source?

My prediction for KF's reply (if he dares)  
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red herring distractions, led away to set up strawman posed in the fever swamps and duly soaked in ad hominems, then set alight. That distracts, poisons, intoxicates, polarsises and clouds the air, which then spreads out from the fever swamps to the culture at large.
it's actually his default statement after being nailed.

ETA tinyurl

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,09:26   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 23 2011,06:09)
UD must be seriously slacking off... three posters who don't agree and they are the first three?

It's unheard of...

It's Sunday.

Wait till UD's Praetardian guard collectively stagger back from church and sees what's going on....

"Onlookers...."

...etc.

Batsh^t77, not yet being trusted to enter the house of God, has nevertheless vomited his longest post in living memory.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,09:56   

Quote (Louis @ Oct. 21 2011,10:36)
... my defences against puerility are low. ...

I guess that defines you - although I suspect you may be some kind of Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde type...

ETA: Suppose I am guilty of improper use of ellipsis.
But no harm done, I think.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,10:01   

Quote (OgreMkV @ Oct. 23 2011,00:09)
Quote (Ptaylor @ Oct. 22 2011,23:55)
You don't even have to read past the title...
     
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Mud-to-Mozart Atheology (Or, Who are the real skeptics?)

...to see that the frilled one is using the Dodgenator 3000 argument A1.
Link.
As ever, though, it doesn't matter so much which variation he uses, each one of his posts is essentially about Gil.
PS - First couple of comments there make it worth a visit, IMO.

UD must be seriously slacking off... three posters who don't agree and they are the first three?

It's unheard of...

Maybe the regulars are in bed early because the weekly Design Manual study is early, before the Designer worship service.

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,12:38   

Quote (sparc @ Oct. 23 2011,03:36)
it's actually his default statement after being nailed.

A visual I did not need.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,15:05   

It's wonderful to see how the most prolific pro-ID posters at UD are, jointly and severally,  just about the biggest embarrassments to "ID-is-science!-it-is!-it-is!" it's possible to imagine.
I think they embarrass each other, as well.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,16:32   

Quote (damitall @ Oct. 24 2011,06:05)
It's wonderful to see how the most prolific pro-ID posters at UD are, jointly and severally,  just about the biggest embarrassments to "ID-is-science!-it-is!-it-is!" it's possible to imagine.
I think they embarrass each other, as well.

I don't think that they are aware enough to get embarrassed by each other

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,16:41   

the absence of obvious self awareness, or a theory of mind, seems to be a prerequisite for riding that short bus

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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,18:23   

Quote (Erasmus, FCD @ Oct. 23 2011,17:41)
the absence of obvious self awareness, or a theory of mind, seems to be a prerequisite for riding that short bus

Interesting.  That would partly explain the fear they evince at atheists lacking an objective morality.*  They know how the others of their tribe would act without the threat of divine punishment.

* No, I don't agree with their characterization.  I suspect their definitions of "objective" and "subjective" are as incoherent as their concept of "intelligent design".

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Oct. 23 2011,21:52   

Quote (Patrick @ Oct. 24 2011,02:23)
Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Oct. 23 2011,17:41)
the absence of obvious self awareness, or a theory of mind, seems to be a prerequisite for riding that short bus

Interesting.  That would partly explain the fear they evince at atheists lacking an objective morality.*  They know how the others of their tribe would act without the threat of divine punishment.

* No, I don't agree with their characterization.  I suspect their definitions of "objective" and "subjective" are as incoherent as their concept of "intelligent design".

Indeed they suffer from hyperrationalism

I found the link below a satisfactory (for me anyway)  explanation of why nonsense becomes fact for the ID hyper-rational

Try this....say ‘part’ backwards.... then read

http://www2.derby.ac.uk/multifa....acy.htm

The answer is near the end.

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