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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,07:47

Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 18 2006,12:10)

yeah that sparked a rant for me, they have the cheek to say "id Exam question" when having an ID exam is just a wet dream for them. There's no answer sheet boys, because the questions are meaningless.
Why dont they get off their sorry butts and do some research?

Then one of the *$*�'s pipes up:

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On the subject of objectively detecting design: Remember the cartoon in Behe�s book of the explorer caught in the jungle trap? Design in this case was objectively detectable (someone or something set a trap in the jungle), not at all difficult to discern, and didn�t require anything fancy like calculating CSI.

Comment by GilDodgen � September 18, 2006 @ 12:32 pm

They CANNOT calculate CSI anyway, now they are making up reasons why they dont have to! And their best research to date is to point at COMICS.

I cant wait for the next time ID is on trial in court....

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,09:20

Re "Why dont they get off their sorry butts and do some research?"

Maybe because that would bring reality into it, and they know at some level that would conflict with what they think they're trying to say? Nah.

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Dozens of Deceitful Deity-Detectors Drone Dopily

Posted: Sep. 18 2006,09:23

Quote (Altabin @ Sep. 18 2006,12:10)

Materialists' methods merit masterful monographs on much that matters; meanwhile, maladroit mealy-mouthed ministerials misinform many, mangle medicine & microbiology, make mindless, moronic manifestos and merit much mockery.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,09:31

Corrected for repetition:

Materialists' methods mold masterful monographs on much that matters; meanwhile, maladroit mealy-mouthed ministerials misinform many, mangle medicine & microbiology, make mindless, moronic manifestos and merit measureless mockery.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,09:45

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,10:08

UD has been pulled from google wholesale.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,10:22

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UD has been pulled from google wholesale.

Huh. Wonder what that's about.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,10:28

Don't want their many f*ckups immortalized, I think.

But think of the many pro-ID scientists who will now miss out.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,10:40

perhaps they dont want to be quotemined!

And the pro ID scientists are wondering what keeps the rain up in the air if not god, not on the internet doing "research".

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�There�s a lot of questions right now that I can�t answer. What holds the clouds up?"

Link

As it goes, i suppose the closest thing they come to actual research is surfing the internet.

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I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".
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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,10:44

Quote (GCT @ Sep. 18 2006,14:45)

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,12:06

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Buffalo Bills Blow But Miami's Much More Mediocre ...

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,16:30

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Whatever happened to the www.overwhelmingevidence.com site that Dimbski claimed he was going to develp as a reply to Kitzmiller? � Does anyone else recall him speaking of it on UD?

Perhaps he's misplaced all of that "overwhelming evidence"?

ps: I wonder if he is/was planning to use the sticky bun in the likeness of mother teresa as a part of the evidece for ID?

He's been talking about that site since December.

December 26, 2005:

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Also, watch for www.overwhelmingevidence.com, which I expect will provide a suitable antidote to the Dover trial (stay tuned).

August 10, 2006:

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Dennett, Dawkins et al. are losing not in the court of law but in the court of public opinion, and that�s where I�m focusing my attentions. For instance, I�m starting a website (www.overwhelmingevidence.com � not yet up and running), modeled on myspace and xanga, to bring high school students together to resist neo-Darwinism and promote intelligent design.

September 18, 2006:

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Site being developed.

When he gets the first piece of overwhelming evidence, I'm sure the site will go up.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,19:26

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He's been talking about that site since December.

Ghost of Paley = William Dembski? It would be fitting to call himself "the Wizard." Or is that Berlinski? Whatever.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,21:22

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�only an editor will be able to approve contributions. Otherwise the texts risk being wrong,�

We need to get some ID friendly people on the editorial staff.

Arrrrgggghhhh.

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,22:32

Screw IC, SC, and CSI. �Gil's got the answer:

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What is your objective method of design detection, and can you show us how it works, by example, when applied to a living system?

Machinery. Machines are designed. Living systems are full of them.

Comment by GilDodgen � September 18, 2006 @ 11:49 pm

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Posted: Sep. 18 2006,22:39

Wes, don't you understand? �To oppose intelligent design is to oppose Jesus. �Of course we need ID-friendly folks on the editorial board!

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,00:22

ID's secret weapon:

"It is scary that 70% of university students think this syllogism is logical: all living things need water; roses need water; therefore roses are living things."

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,05:10

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ Sep. 19 2006,02:22)

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�only an editor will be able to approve contributions. Otherwise the texts risk being wrong,�

We need to get some ID friendly people on the editorial staff.

Arrrrgggghhhh.

Well, it is speak like a pirate day.

Bob

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,06:05

DaveScot: "Because of the frequency of such claims here I asked that he back them up before he comments here again. As of now the result of my request is the sound of crickets chirping. To be fair, perhaps trrll didn�t see my last response. If not he�s sure to see this."

Trrll put in a box and forced to fight strawmen to make his escape.

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,06:24

Quote (keiths @ Sep. 19 2006,04:32)

Screw IC, SC, and CSI. Gil's got the answer:

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What is your objective method of design detection, and can you show us how it works, by example, when applied to a living system?

Machinery. Machines are designed. Living systems are full of them.

Comment by GilDodgen � September 18, 2006 @ 11:49 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA

that's about the most pathetic thing I've ever read.

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,06:30

Quote (Henry J @ Sep. 18 2006,15:20)

Re "Why dont they get off their sorry butts and do some research?"

Maybe because that would bring reality into it, and they know at some level that would conflict with what they think they're trying to say? Nah.

On the rare occasion one of them does any "ID research", it just winds up supporting evolution.

Behe and Snoke

I just Love Behe and Snoke. They went to a lot of trouble to build a b***s*** model of evolution to prove that an IC structure can't arise. Then, when you put real-world numbers into the model, you find this IC thing could evolve several million times a second.

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,06:34

Davetard goes quantum-stupid:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1613#comment-61757

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Technically there�s nothing hypocritical. Any meat I eat is already dead, butchered, and offered for sale to the general public. I took no position about it being bad or good to EAT meat. The G12 and many vegetarians stake out the claim that meat poisons the body which I don�t believe at all. The position I took was entirely about killing. One can make a point that by purchasing the product I�ve contributed in some measurable way to the profit of an industry that kills. In this case it�s a diminishingly small way and my abstinence wouldn�t change it. I have no objection in principle to eating animals that died of natural causes which is something still prohibited by the G12 and most vegetarians I know. If you keep chickens for the eggs or goats for the milk - everything dies eventually and why should the body be wasted when the inevitable happens?

So you're in no way complicit Dave? You don't think they'll kill another animal to replace the meat you just baught? What if everyone stopped buying meat? what would happen? For a guy who bangs on about capitalism, he has no causal undersatnding. Or does he think that farmers walk the fields waiting for things to die of natural causes?

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,06:39

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(Altabin @ Sep. 18 2006,12:10)
Dozens of Deceitful Deity-Detectors Drone Dopily

Ogee
Materialists' methods merit masterful monographs on much that matters; meanwhile, maladroit mealy-mouthed ministerials misinform many, mangle medicine & microbiology, make mindless, moronic manifestos and merit much mockery.

LOL

MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmemes mendaciously mitigate maladjusted misanthropes whom meaninglessly meander, murdering meaningful musings from meticulous meta-physicians becoming more metallic as their mega manufacturer made machines not Man.

The latest from the id cess pool .....God is an appliance maker .....I wonder if Dogski's Length Infinite, Zero Energy �(LIZE) wave, powers them....sounds a bit new age to me...for his next trick watch for magnetic healing badges with his sideways "I'm with stupid" glance on it.

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:00

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 19 2006,11:34)

Davetard goes quantum-stupid:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1613#comment-61757

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Technically there�s nothing hypocritical. Any meat I eat is already dead, butchered, and offered for sale to the general public. I took no position about it being bad or good to EAT meat. The G12 and many vegetarians stake out the claim that meat poisons the body which I don�t believe at all. The position I took was entirely about killing. One can make a point that by purchasing the product I�ve contributed in some measurable way to the profit of an industry that kills. In this case it�s a diminishingly small way and my abstinence wouldn�t change it. I have no objection in principle to eating animals that died of natural causes which is something still prohibited by the G12 and most vegetarians I know. If you keep chickens for the eggs or goats for the milk - everything dies eventually and why should the body be wasted when the inevitable happens?

So you're in no way complicit Dave? You don't think they'll kill another animal to replace the meat you just baught? What if everyone stopped buying meat? what would happen? For a guy who bangs on about capitalism, he has no causal undersatnding. Or does he think that farmers walk the fields waiting for things to die of natural causes?

This is the same man who once claimed he avoided giving money to Scientific American (too supportive of evolution) by having the subscription in his wife's name...

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:05

Ooooo, nice catch Arden. I forgot about that.

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:11

Quote (Arden Chatfield @ Sep. 19 2006,12:00)

Quote (Richardthughes @ Sep. 19 2006,11:34)

Davetard goes quantum-stupid:

http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1613#comment-61757

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Technically there�s nothing hypocritical. Any meat I eat is already dead, butchered, and offered for sale to the general public. I took no position about it being bad or good to EAT meat. The G12 and many vegetarians stake out the claim that meat poisons the body which I don�t believe at all. The position I took was entirely about killing. One can make a point that by purchasing the product I�ve contributed in some measurable way to the profit of an industry that kills. In this case it�s a diminishingly small way and my abstinence wouldn�t change it. I have no objection in principle to eating animals that died of natural causes which is something still prohibited by the G12 and most vegetarians I know. If you keep chickens for the eggs or goats for the milk - everything dies eventually and why should the body be wasted when the inevitable happens?

So you're in no way complicit Dave? You don't think they'll kill another animal to replace the meat you just baught? What if everyone stopped buying meat? what would happen? For a guy who bangs on about capitalism, he has no causal undersatnding. Or does he think that farmers walk the fields waiting for things to die of natural causes?

This is the same man who once claimed he avoided giving money to Scientific American (too supportive of evolution) by having the subscription in his wife's name...

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The position I took was entirely about killing. One can make a point that by purchasing the product I�ve contributed in some measurable way to the profit of an industry that kills. In this case it�s a diminishingly small way and my abstinence wouldn�t change it

and what's the point voting, Dave? Your little crayon 'X' in the republican candidate's box wont make any difference in that big old pool of voters...

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:22

Quote (stevestory @ Sep. 19 2006,12:05)

Ooooo, nice catch Arden. I forgot about that.

I wish I could forget these things...

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:42

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This is the same man who once claimed he avoided giving money to Scientific American (too supportive of evolution) by having the subscription in his wife's name...

But be fair about that one. �Without SA DaveTard could not be the authority on all things biological, physical, and designed. �He just had to reconnect with the main source of knowledge in science (and to give SA its due, it's a way better source than AFDave's "knowledge". �Not that Tard1 understands Scientific American particularly well).

I wonder if he knows that other people read SA. �If he did know, wouldn't that put a damper on his supreme authority via a popular science magazine? �Of course the advantage of having no real knowledge of science as practiced, the advantage shared by virtually all IDiots and Tards, is not shared by any number of evolutionists who read SA, which may explain DaveTard's superiority over other readers of Scientific American....

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Posted: Sep. 19 2006,07:57

Quote (keiths @ Sep. 19 2006,03:32)

Screw IC, SC, and CSI. �Gil's got the answer:

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What is your objective method of design detection, and can you show us how it works, by example, when applied to a living system?

Machinery. Machines are designed. Living systems are full of them.

Comment by GilDodgen � September 18, 2006 @ 11:49 pm

So apparently alliterative sentences are machines. You learn something new every day on UD.

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