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JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,11:31    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 17 2008,09:27) Quote (Erasmus @ FCD,Jan. 16 2008,22:24) Can someone please tell me what in the holey feck this thread is all about? I know gloppy is most likely WAD but parodying the parody of a parody is stupid, not funny.         Quote The genus Agros Agoraphobias, for example, independently evolved in northeast Africa and on the Manchurian peninsula Hey, Dumbass.  That is not a genus.  You sir are a god damned fool.  Pig ignorant of all that biology is and will be, and proud of it.  I wish I could flunk you from my class. Not just biology-ignorant. Add grammar and grantsmanship. And geography.  Manchuria isn't a peninsula. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

hooligans Posts: 114 Joined: Jan. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,11:56    I wonder if the great Dr. Dr. was busy at the Jesus Tomb Conference? Time Story on Jesus Tomb Math that uses statistics.

keiths Posts: 2195 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,12:01    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 17 2008,06:18)   Quote (CeilingCat @ Jan. 17 2008,05:49) Somebody may have mentioned this before.  If so, I apologize. What's wrong with this line?       Quote HOME | Publications | People | Presentations | Resources | Auxilery Papers | www.EvoInfo.org Found at http://www.EvoInfo.org/ Shhhhh.... Maybe Sal is working there after all... -------------- And the set of natural numbers is also the set that starts at 0 and goes to the largest number. -- Joe G Please stop putting words into my mouth that don't belong there and thoughts into my mind that don't belong there. -- KF

steve_h Posts: 544 Joined: Jan. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,17:25    DaveScot had a totally *new* and *original* insight into the way things really are:     Quote In fact I, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, have written on UD about the notion that humanity’s purpose is to discover habitable earth-like planets and design vehicles that can deliver single-celled life to them. In other words we are the means by which bacteria can survive the inevitable turning of our planet into a cinder when the sun becomes a red giant a few billion years down the road. If it wasn't suggested before (and I really can't be arsed to check right) now, I think we should christen (D'oh) this "the selfish bacterium" model. Oh yeah, and Barry just churned out some more crap about how you can't emulate human minds in two or three lines of visual basic or something, again. edit: emphasized sarkiness. edit: given "tongue in cheek" qualification, maybe whoever first mentioned selfish bacterium was him. If so, D'oh again. I stick by my Barry remark.

C.J.O'Brien Posts: 395 Joined: Aug. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,17:45    Barry A's defenses of dualism are just childishly naive. cf. Stupid, Teh, burning -------------- The is the beauty of being me- anything that any man does I can understand. --Joe G

olegt Posts: 1405 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,18:16    DaveT points out why Guillermo Gonzalez's work important. Quote As an avid reader of what’s called “hard” science fiction (science fiction which incorporates as much as possible from actual experimental sciences into the plot) for the last 40 years and counting I recognized Gonzalez work as having important implications for hard science fiction. Read the whole thing to see Dave reluctantly abandon Teh Copernican Principle of Mediocrity. -------------- If you are not: Galapagos Finch please Logout »

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,18:17    Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 17 2008,10:55)   Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 15 2008,16:48)       Quote Shoghi: I designed a controlled experiment that would test the hypothesis that organisms are frontloaded with information that allows them to survive in a totally unique environment that could not have possibly been an evolutionary adaptation. ... My procedures (short version): Find spider hatchlings that have been born in the wild outdoors. Place them inside a broken computer (I choose a computer because they haven’t been around long enough for spiders to evolve any adaptations to living with). Next, place the computer on top of a pole outdoors. Wait and observe to see if they can build a web and then successfully reproduce. jerry: A very clever experiment and one that offers prospects for the future. Shoghi, put jerry down. You've had your fun. Shoghi, I told you to put jerry down. Now, jerry's comments about spiders are gone too. No more spiders anywhere! I found Jerry. -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Reciprocating Bill Posts: 4265 Joined: Oct. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,18:34    BarryA:   Quote If the brain is nothing more than an organic computing machine, why do materialists bother to try to persuade us of anything? A spider got in?   Quote Given [the materialist’s] perception of reality, why [does he] bother to raise objections at all [to the proposition that mind exists independently of the brain].  If your world view is true, then [all the commenters] on this blog do what we do only because fate requires it of us. We are, for want of a better term, determined to think and act as we do.  Since we have no volitional powers, why do you appeal to them? Accepting your premises, that we do so was determined, you dipshit! -------------- Myth: Something that never was true, and always will be. "The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you." - David Foster Wallace "Here’s a clue. Snarky banalities are not a substitute for saying something intelligent. Write that down." - Barry Arrington

Doc Bill Posts: 1039 Joined: April 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,18:43    Once again we all owe Dr. Dr. Dembski a debt of thanks for demonstrating that the scientific output of "intelligent design" is exactly ZERO. After 153 comments the number of cases where ID has made a prediction that has been subsequently proved is... ... drum roll please! ... ZERO! Absolutely NONE. You know, when you ask for comments and the most reasonable comment comes from Larry Farfarman it's going to be a long night.

Venus Mousetrap Posts: 201 Joined: Aug. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,19:41    I actually can't argue with the response they've given me. I asked for a dna protection mechanism and they gave me one, even after I bullshitted about forcefields and completely made up the term 'retroamino introsposon'. I fail at tard-mining. :)

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,19:53    Quote (Venus Mousetrap @ Jan. 17 2008,19:41) I actually can't argue with the response they've given me. I asked for a dna protection mechanism and they gave me one, even after I bullshitted about forcefields and completely made up the term 'retroamino introsposon'. I fail at tard-mining. :) Ha!  That's Beautiful!  Don't give up dude!  Be the little engine that could. You just have to keep preaching about your ID discovery "retroamino introsposon", and that the Darwinistas wont let you publish.  Before you know it, you'll have posting privaleges at UD, you'll be working on your Oscar acceptance speech for your impassioned defense of your "research" on Expelled.   The DI will give you an office with a view and Ben Stein and Dembski will get in a fight over who gets to buy you drinks and take you home. Ah yes, life in the exciting world of ID.  Retroamino intoposon all the way down.  Go with it. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 17 2008,20:02    vjtorley: Quote (2) For the same reasons, we can be confident that robots will never be able to take over the world, and that humans will never be able to create a “master race” of superior beings that could turn on us and destroy us. Even if he's right, an Old Glory Insurance policy is still a good idea, IMO. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,00:32    Quote (Albatrossity2 @ Jan. 17 2008,12:27) More ridiculously, these typos         Quote ACCREDITATION: Academic institutions that employ Intelligent Design sympathizers that in any way give Intelligent Design legitimacy (e.g., present it in a favorable light in the science curriculum or even go so far as to set up committees, think-tanks, centers, or institutes to weight (sic) its "merits") must have their accreditation revoked more quickly that (sic) the driver's licence of a blind man on his fifth DUI conviction. Behe teaches at Leigh University. Did Leigh University have its accreditation quickly revoked?

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,00:34    notice they didn't say "give Intelligent Design legitimacy (e.g., by creating hypotheses, doing experiments, publishing research...)"

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,00:49    I don't sockpuppet, but I understand the instincts of those who do. These ID Creationists are such humongous losers, what else is there to do, but have fun with them? We've entered year number three of the defunctness of the exciting ID journal PCID. Remember ISCID, the International Society for Complexity, Information and Design? They were going to have a journal, conferences, seminars, etc? The only activity I can locate for 2008 on their website is 12 comments on Brainstorms by John Davison. If that's the best brainstorm they got, you can turn off the EEG machine and call it. I'm looking through the thesaurus right now because 'failure' doesn't fully describe these ID losers. I'm torn between 'collapse' and 'fiasco'. Quote fi·as·co      /fi?ćsko? or, esp. for 2, -??sko?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fee-as-koh or, esp. for 2, -ah-skoh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -cos, -coes. 1. a complete and ignominious failure. that'll do! Edited by stevestory on Jan. 18 2008,01:51

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,00:55    Quote (stevestory @ Jan. 18 2008,00:49) I don't sockpuppet, but I understand the instincts of those who do. These ID Creationists are such humongous losers, what else is there to do, but have fun with them? We've entered year number three of the defunctness of the exciting ID journal PCID. Remember ISCID, the International Society for Complexity, Information and Design? They were going to have a journal, conferences, seminars, etc? The only activity I can locate for 2008 on their website is 12 comments on Brainstorms by John Davison. If that's the best brainstorm they got, you can turn off the EEG machine and call it. I'm looking through the thesaurus right now because 'failure' doesn't fully describe these ID losers. I'm torn between 'collapse' and 'fiasco'.   Quote fi·as·co      /fi?ćsko? or, esp. for 2, -??sko?/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fee-as-koh or, esp. for 2, -ah-skoh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -cos, -coes. 1. a complete and ignominious failure. that'll do! "debacle" works, too Quote 1.  A sudden, disastrous collapse, downfall, or defeat; a rout. 2. A total, often ludicrous failure. -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

stevestory Posts: 13407 Joined: Oct. 2005 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,01:04    That does indeed work.

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,01:05    I've always heard ye olde colloquialiasm Quote "MIGHTS" grow on chickens asses" seems like it fits just teh same. -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,09:25    Okay you scoffers... just you wait until BA77 gets out on bail and gets back to posting on UD... he'll show you what's what. -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,10:49    Quote (Reciprocating Bill @ Jan. 17 2008,18:17)   Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 17 2008,10:55)       Quote (Zachriel @ Jan. 15 2008,16:48)           Quote Shoghi: I designed a controlled experiment that would test the hypothesis that organisms are frontloaded with information that allows them to survive in a totally unique environment that could not have possibly been an evolutionary adaptation. ... My procedures (short version): Find spider hatchlings that have been born in the wild outdoors. Place them inside a broken computer (I choose a computer because they haven’t been around long enough for spiders to evolve any adaptations to living with). Next, place the computer on top of a pole outdoors. Wait and observe to see if they can build a web and then successfully reproduce. jerry: A very clever experiment and one that offers prospects for the future. Shoghi, put jerry down. You've had your fun. Shoghi, I told you to put jerry down. Now, jerry's comments about spiders are gone too. No more spiders anywhere! I found Jerry. There's a 53.2% chance that jerry will reappear in the middle of a very expensive Persian carpet. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,12:28    Hey Bill!  It's Freaky Friday!  Where's the meltdown? (Unless the fact that nobody answered your question correctly about what has ID predicted = meltdown?) BTW - Does sobbing quietly in your broom-closet office with the lights out count as a melt-down? Thanks for responding, Your BFF J-Dog -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Zachriel Posts: 2723 Joined: Sep. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,12:52    Maybe this is the "big-time"?! Quote Paul Nelson: “We’re moving into intelligent design, big-time.” Paul Nelson quote-mines Craig Venter and then gives a HT to {banned} Abbie "just a girl" Smith over at ERV. -------------- You never step on the same tard twice—for it's not the same tard and you're not the same person.

JohnW Posts: 3217 Joined: Aug. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,12:58    Quote (J-Dog @ Jan. 18 2008,10:28) Hey Bill!  It's Freaky Friday!  Where's the meltdown? (Unless the fact that nobody answered your question correctly about what has ID predicted = meltdown?) BTW - Does sobbing quietly in your broom-closet office with the lights out count as a melt-down? Thanks for responding, Your BFF J-Dog Perhaps Dr Dr D's list of answers is going to be the meltdown.  Maybe something like this: Quote Here's my list of confirmed ID predictions: Astute UD readers, if I have any, will note that the list is blank.  That's because I've decided, after much prayer and discussion with my pastor, lawyer and accountant, that the jig is up.  It's time to accept that our attempt to theocratize science has failed, and that although there may still be money to be made, the trend is inexorably down and I can't keep milking this forever. If any of you have any money left, feel free to drop by next time you're in the Bahamas.  Goodbye, and thanks for everything. -------------- Math is just a language of reality. Its a waste of time to know it. - Robert Byers There isn't any probability that the letter d is in the word "mathematics"...  The correct answer would be "not even 0" - JoeG

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,13:36    JW Said: Here's my list of confirmed ID predictions: Astute UD readers, if I have any, will note that the list is blank.  That's because I've decided, after much prayer and discussion with my pastor, lawyer and accountant, that the jig is up.  It's time to accept that our attempt to theocratize science has failed, and that although there may still be money to be made, the trend is inexorably down and I can't keep milking this forever. If any of you have any money left, feel free to drop by next time you're in the Bahamas.  Goodbye, and thanks for everything.[/quote][/quote] JW - Those few words are simply stunning, and so beautiful that they bring a tear to my eye.   And a laugh to my lips. Ha! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Hermagoras Posts: 1260 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,13:52    How long can DRat07 last? Quote Dr. Nelson - Why are you linking to noted Darwinist Abbie Smith? She is the female graduate student that had the temerity to point out problems with Dr. Behe’s book. She has also instigated trouble for Dr. Dembski by bring up Dr. Dembski’s illegal use of material from Harvard in a presentation Dr. Dembski made to the Univrsity of Oklahoma. Ms. Smith has been banned from posting on this board, so I do not think that you should give her and her Darwinist cronies the satisfaction of increasing their traffic, or of potentially having someone from this board visit her sight and lose their faith, or lose their faith in ID. -------------- "I am not currently proving that objective morality is true. I did that a long time ago and you missed it." -- StephenB http://paralepsis.blogspot.com/....pot.com

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,14:21    Quote (Hermagoras @ Jan. 18 2008,13:52) How long can DRat07 last?   Quote Dr. Nelson - Why are you linking to noted Darwinist Abbie Smith? She is the female graduate student that had the temerity to point out problems with Dr. Behe’s book. She has also instigated trouble for Dr. Dembski by bring up Dr. Dembski’s illegal use of material from Harvard in a presentation Dr. Dembski made to the Univrsity of Oklahoma. Ms. Smith has been banned from posting on this board, so I do not think that you should give her and her Darwinist cronies the satisfaction of increasing their traffic, or of potentially having someone from this board visit her sight and lose their faith, or lose their faith in ID. Ha!  It makes sense to me! -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Mister DNA Posts: 466 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,15:25    Quote (Hermagoras @ Jan. 18 2008,13:52) How long can DRat07 last?     Quote Dr. Nelson - Why are you linking to noted Darwinist Abbie Smith? She is the female graduate student that had the temerity to point out problems with Dr. Behe’s book. She has also instigated trouble for Dr. Dembski by bring up Dr. Dembski’s illegal use of material from Harvard in a presentation Dr. Dembski made to the Univrsity of Oklahoma. Ms. Smith has been banned from posting on this board, so I do not think that you should give her and her Darwinist cronies the satisfaction of increasing their traffic, or of potentially having someone from this board visit her sight and lose their faith, or lose their faith in ID. Christ, if that "ID Predictions" thread didn't cause even the True Believers to lose their faith in creationism Intelligent Design, I don't think they have much to worry about. Besides, I seem to remember a couple of people blogging about traffic from ID sites... -------------- CBEB's: The Church Burnin' Ebola Blog Thank you, Dr. Dembski. You are without peer when it comes to The Argument Regarding Design. - vesf

ERV Posts: 329 Joined: Sep. 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,15:32    Funny for 2 reasons. 1-- Paul Nelson reads my blag.  Proof even Creationists will stick around all that 'science crap' in hopes of seeing a booby post. 2-- Paul Nelson was also 'named' as a DI fellow who was showing 'Inner Life of a Cell'.

J-Dog Posts: 4402 Joined: Dec. 2006 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,15:50    Quote (ERV @ Jan. 18 2008,15:32) Funny for 2 reasons. 1-- Paul Nelson reads my blag.  Proof even Creationists will stick around all that 'science crap' in hopes of seeing a booby post. 2-- Paul Nelson was also 'named' as a DI fellow who was showing 'Inner Life of a Cell'. Ha! Speaking of which, we haven't seen them in a while... But we can always follow this link... http://www.treknature.com/gallery/South_America/Ecuador/photo53779.htm -------------- Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10 Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08 UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

Erasmus, FCD Posts: 6349 Joined: June 2007 (Permalink) Posted: Jan. 18 2008,17:29    Did i miss the bobby post? -------------- You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG the odds of getting some loathsome taint are low-- Gordon E Mullings Manjack Heights Montserrat I work on molecular systems with pathway charts and such.-Giggles

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